The rat smacketeers are brooking no argument!! All for one BFP and one BFP for all!

[Imps7]

Smacket on, ladies...

Hurray, I got a high on the CBMF this morning (cd13), so ignore my previous mentalling.

sweetie I totally get the desire for heavier periods & longer cycles. I'm really hoping that after my mc, my short cycles might have corrected themselves. Looking for a silver lining really!

cupcakes until af arrives, there's no such thing as being sure you're not pregnant!

Oh cupcakes :(
That is a very long LP - do you think you're just a slow BFPer like loopy was? Iirc she took til 18-20dpo to get a bfp!

just lurking briefly :) yes popcorn it took till what FF said was 20 dpo to get BFP on a first response....interesting to note though, that FF was wrong about my ovulation date, can be certain of this as now had 2 12 week scans, and due date altered as a result, which means there is no way i ovulated when FF thought i did...so it might be the same for you cupcakes - you might not have ovulated when the silly FF computer package thinks you did, and you might not be as far past ovulation as you think (and i was temping!!) go treat yourself to a FR test and try it tomorrow :) good luck!!

Morning all.
Something terrible has just happened to me: I was just in our faculty cafe having a coffee and reading through something I need to edit and saw a very good looking chap. With a normalish looking girl, talking to someone I know works here. I assumed they were maybe masters students.

Then I realised she was a student, and he was her FATHER.

I realised a couple of years ago that the new undergrads were closer in age to my kids than to me, but fancying their dads is a new low.

I feel so old.

Whims you made me snort with that! Fancying dads is fine I mean the undergrads are practically children. Much better to fancy the dads.

Cupcakes I am brooking that you just ov'd a few days later than your estimate and you will get your BFP soon.

Little hurrah re the high on the shag dictator. We are still cycle buddies - I have been leaving a snail trail (sorry) and having the twinges, so I'm sure I'm ovulating around now as well. Look forward to our BFPs in a couple of weeks!

Imps hurrah for not cycling!

Sweetie hope AF buggers off soon and you have a luvverly holiday.

Stasi glad yesterday went OK and I do hope your RSI gets better soon - sounds nasty. Are you testing tomorrow?

Thinking of Maybe on her l-o-o-o-o-ng day of experiments. A very long time ago when I was a lab scientist I had to put in some 14 hours days doing growth curves of bacteria, so I know how you feel! Labs seem quite creepy in the early morning/late night when you're all alone with the test tubes!

Hello everyone else!

Breaking news. The hideous experiment has been cancelled. Well, until next week anyway. It's rubbish Generic isn't it. Roll on September ish time.

Cup I am holding out so much hope for you.

Stasi glad yesterday was ok in the end, hope your wrist is feeling better

Whim that is bloody hilarious There is nothing wrong with a dilf, nothing at all

Hurrah for the high Little

Imps cycling+wind=nasty. Glad you didn't.

Am in wirk today doing more experiements. I think I am going to go back to GP on Friday, as I really don't feel any better. I am not normally a tired person, but I really am of late.

Imps what did your temp do this morning?

heavily pregnant? you must be about to give birth to a cadbury mini egg
Bwah ha ha haaa!

Hello all - SS - that woman sounds really annoying!

Just waving as I'm back on my computer again and haven't forgotten you. I'm expecting BFPs from Cups and Imps. And everyone else of course but not quite as soon.

xxx

Thanks for all your reassurances. I would like to add that I have NEVER fancied a student here.

Imps I was all for tutting at your bike-abandonment, when you absolved yourself by taking the bus. I got drenched (it was only drizzling when I left home, proper tipping down when I got in). However, I'm very much looking forward to a sunny and downhill ride home.

Maybe hope it's good news that your experiment is postponed. Is there anyway you can stay closer to your uni so you don't have to get up before you've gone to bed?

sparks he was definitely hot! And prob only mid 40s (younger than Mr Whim...)

In a similar vein Whims, I was at netball the other night and a group of lads appeared on the astroturf next to our court for their footie practice. I said "oooh 'ello!" to our goal attack and nodded in the direction of said lads, only to realise upon closer inspection that they were all around 15 years old. Luckily our goal attack knows me quite well and realised I'd made an honest error and am not some sort of pervert or sex offender.

I do love cycling very much - it's only a 3.5 mile journey to work each way (will be 5 miles to the station when I start commuting). It's a lovely route over parks, down avenues and across a river. I've felt pretty tired and ropey all day today which must be because I'm pregnant I didn't get my morning exercise and fresh air.

Nice to see you Bean, hope you're enjoying real life. Surely AF isn't due for you soon? We were at pretty similar stages in our cycle if I recall correctly.

Maybe I hope muchly that you knew the experiment was cancelled before you got to the lab super early...

Is it "vein" or "vane" when used in that context??

I forgot to answer your question about my temps Maybe! It was a bit more normal this morning - still a little on the high side but not significantly so. Maybe I'm still harbouring a little bit of my cold - I have been quite headachey today. Any let up in yours?

Vein I'd assume, Imps ? Otherwise it would be like saying, in a similar wind-vane??

Ooo looking super promising, Imps...

Or maybe it's "vain"??

I am expecting temps to drop to around 36.55 on Sat or Sun and then below the coverline on Sun or Mon when AF starts. Except I'm not really expecting them to of course given that I am officially with child.

How are you doing Pops?? It's exciting times on the PSEPP thread, isn't it??

Vein - track/tunnel (for blood). Weather vane - cockerel on a stick.

I'm afraid AF got me at teatime on cd24 if you can believe it (leaving me with a 23-day cycle and a LP of 11-12 days) . I'm just hoping that you all are pg so I will feel better about all this TTC grief. I am giving it until July when we are house-swapping out of London for the Olympics and that's when I'll jack in the vits, acupuncture, hope, cycle monitoring etc. It's really beginning to look like it's time to move on and thank my stars that we got lucky with DS. But... DP has only been off the booze and having acupuncture for 6 weeks (ages though that sounds, I think another few weeks are needed for the wrigglers to improve), so I have to try to be positive as he's made such an effort. I shall also have to carry on with my disgusting wheatgrass, herbs, vits, birdseed, no caffeine, no booze, etc etc for a little longer and may even have to abandon dark chocolate too. Lord above, no peace for the wicked.

DON'T let AF anywhere near you, Imps - this is your month I can feel it.

xxxx

Correct - in vain!

It is indeed! So many imminent-poppers and just about everybody is uncomfortable and sleep-deprived

I'm 9+2 today DH is bursting to tell people, as there are 6 (6!) very pregnant women where he works (out of a staff of 20!) and his best bud at work's girlfriend is also due 3 weeks before me. DH is going to arrange for us to all meet up once we go public next month, as I don't really know anyone in the city we live in (we're not from here originally) and it'll be really nice to know a local preggo :)

I agree bean it's too early to throw in the towel - 3 months for new sperms, isn't it? DH cut down on caffeine dramatically and, while we don't know it's what made the difference, it did correspond to be about 3 months later we got our BFP.

So it's "in the same vain as xyz..." ?

Oh Bean poor sausage. Two things though:

1. A 11/12 day LP is not too short an LP - don't been worried about that, as that's a waste of good, quality worry which could be put to use elsewhere.

1. TTC doesn't need to be all or nothing - it can be somewhere in between. If you want to take the focussed/regimented stuff away come July then do - but that doesn't stop you from shagging with wild abandon but without contraception at ovulation and/or when the mood takes you for a good while longer.

Thanks for the spelling/grammar lesson btw

Bean I am so sorry re AF but I agree with Imps that you could/should carry on not using contraception and if you get lucky, then yay. Hats off to you on the effort you and DP are both making. I am two weeks into my no caffeine, no chocolate (sob) no booze and it's going well and I do feel better for it.

Imps I love that story and it's easily done (I have done similar and I'm really not a perv).

Pop it is 'in the same vein as...' and 'tried in vain' (not an editor like Bean but I think I'm right).

Oh yes bean I heartily second Imps's assertion that an 11/12 day LP is fine! Don't worry about that at all :)

Cheers generic ! :o

Thanks guys - you are all so lovely, you really are. And Pops - that is encouraging re caffeine-free DH about 3 months before your BFP. So brilliant you are going to tell everyone soon - how wonderfully exciting. I can't believe I waited until 16 weeks to tell most people. Just didn't want to worry anyone...

Imps - you sweetie, yes - I know you only need a 10-day LP minimum so not really a worry, but a bit of a surprise and didn't feel like a step in the right direction. Anyway - I hope you will be confirming soon. I have told AF that she won't get tickets to the Olympics if she carries on like this.

Tbh it's not really worry that gets me - just frustration/anger these days. I don't feel there's something to fix any more (getting SA results helped stop worry, as it justified lack of BFP and helped get DP fully on side).

Generic - you are so right about so many things including vein/vain. Well done for your two weeks of superb self-control. It seems we do feel better and fitter since we began all this, so there's something!

No, I shan't be using contraception again, but I will try to let go in July; I really do too many vits/herbs to be a normal person! I just can't believe I am on cycle 14 or even more if I think of the few months when AF was back on the scene but I was still b-fing. But I know some people go through years of hell and still triumph. You need to be made of sturdy stuff, don't you?

It's funny as I knew that this month was unlikely but still get all emotional. After my cd1 moan on here (and a weep at acupuncture ) I do feel a lot better and am already planning SWI (over DP's birthday weekend if you will) so can't be that down in the dumps.

And DS is being brilliant at the moment so daily counting my blessings.

One BFP for all, and all for one BFP!