Emmsy's ladies lets roll into spring together! Bring on some sunshine!

[4everhopeful]

About time I start a thread! Pom poms still shaking, bumps growing, babies and toddlers talk a plenty, while the support, laughs, hand holds and weebling continues...

Rumours try bribing him with smarties - one for a peepee in the loo, two for a poo! Worked a treat with ds, and after a while he forgot to ask for them

Leaving now, love to all xxx

Wow barbie that was painless then! Must be a relief. Lol, rumours I bet my ds1 will be like that too, taking ages over it! Not going to think about it til after Seb is weaned I think, don't want to do both at the same time!

monkey enjoy France!

Gah, phone posted too soon..
4ever thanks lovely :) I know you know the feeling with the futile pushing! Sure your next experience will be much better too. Any symptoms by the way?? I keep seeing cars with a bfp numberplate & always think of you and our other ladies ttc, how are you all??

cupcake what a lovely story - thank you for posting it . I'm a little bit that you have stories like this to tell. Mine would go something like: wake up, go to hospital, get a mahoosive needle shoved in my spine, bit of rummaging around in my insides and then baby comes out. Hurrah! The End

cleverrumours we've used the chocolate buttons bribe route too. I sympathise as we had terrible trouble with Luke witholding poo and getting constipated and we still have issues now although it is much better. I remember one piece of advice was to put a nappy inside the potty to try and get him to poo on the potty. Apparently its not quite as scary. Well done on getting another assignment done - nearly there! You definitely deserve a break and a or ten two

LBM so sorry your camping got rained off. You can't plan anything at the moment. DH has a week off at the end of July and we've been debating whether to go down to Cornwall but the idea of all 5 of us crammed into one room at ILs and it constantly raining is not appealing at all! Can you get the ferry from the south coast to France so you are further down to begin with. I think you haven't got to go too far south to find much better weather than we are having.

barbie go Dolly!! When she makes her mind up to do something, she goes for it! My friends DD was dry day and night at the same stage and it will save you a fortune in nappies! Happy birthday to your DH - hope you have a lovely evening in Paris

monkey glad your appt went ok and you have a new PLAN. What a bugger about DS's crocs - unbelievable that people do that Hope you have a really lovely holiday with lots of sun and no rain

4ever hope you're ok and your little whirlwind is keeping you busy

You too blue - have your school's broken up yet?

All ok here, just having to go to lots of school things. Not sure how I'm going to do it next year when I'm working too. Must be a nightmare for you LBM. Isaac is being really hard work, hitting/kicking me a lot when he's not getting his way. Not helped by his transport being all over the place. Driver was on holiday for a week and he literally had a different driver/car for every journey. Then driver came back and decided he couldn't do it any more so we had a new driver on Wednesday out of the blue. They keep turning up late and its really unsettling him. We had a school assembly for Luke a couple of weeks ago and its lovely to see how he's come on this year.

Just over a week left of school and then I've got all 3 of them on my own for a week before DH is off. I'm going to need valium by the end of the week.

Oscar is just gorgeous and is now cruising. He's into EVERYTHING. Mr Inquisitive. We've got a couple of words which is really lovely after our experience with Isaac. He is a very social child and flirts with everyone!

Still waiting for planning permission, just over 2 weeks to wait..

Must go, O will be waking up any second and then I have to go to Halfords to get a new light for my car

louey -love the birth story -sounded a lot like mine with bb sure you're right about the weather being better not much further south - looks nicer with barbie than here. But, I have learned nothing and have just booked a second weekend camping for next weekend - it will be better, it will be better...

Hi all. Have been meaning to come on all week, but DH is still on holiday so I keep finding other things to do. He's on the golf course right now though, so here I am!

Monkey sorry I missed you before your hols but glad to hear the appt went better than expected. Also a little at someone stealing DS's shoes. What a rotten thing to do. Have a fab holiday!

Barbie wow to Dolly and the potty training. What a clever cookie she is. I'm going to try H next week when DH is back at work and won't see the mess but I am not really hopeful.

Barbie and Monkey I have also been trying running. I was doing quite well before our holiday but I pulled a muscle in my back last week and it's been too sore since then. My back has been better today finally so I'm hoping to start again tomorrow. I spent all my birthday money on proper trainers etc and DH bought me an ipod so I have no excuse. I'm really hoping it will help me tone up and lose weight and I have to admit that I've loved it the few times I have been out despite how rubbish I am. My friend wants me to register for a 6k in September, but that's too scary yet.

Rumours It's soo frustrating when you know they can do something but they won't, isn't it? Well done on the course stuff. It won't be long until you are all done. Clever girl!

Moon any symptoms on the 2ww? I know you said this month isn't likely but I'm keeping my fingers crossed. How are you enjoyong being a Mrs?

4ever Sounds like you had a lovely anniversary. Congratulations again.

Cupcake Well done again on the birth story. I have already texted my almost-due friend to tell her to hum through her contractions!

Louey You sound soooo busy! I'm agog at how you do it all. I hope you manage to get away for a few days and I totally feel your pain about the weather, although it was sunny here today for once

LBM another busy lady! Sorry that you had to cancel the camping trip, but loving the optimism of booking another one.

Blue Can't remember but if you're on holiday now I hope you're having fun.

Well we had a great holiday despite the back problem (more painful than labour and without the great end result!) and the dodgy weather. It was so much more fun with H being older this year as we went to the circus and the pleasurebeach and we stayed much later at the evening entertainment. I feel very at peace with the way my family is now. It was our ten year anniversary when we were away too. I can't believe how fast time has passed.

Anyway, I'm off to browse the talk boards. Sorry if I missed anyone.

cupcake your birth story sounds amazing, I love how everyone says it hurts like hell but are all too ready to do it all over again.

neeko sorry to hear you hurt your back, hope its on the mend and good luck for getting into the running - its not for me I hate it! I love how happy you sound, it must be a lovely feeling to be at peace. No, just my usual af symptoms, I am really not hopeful at all, so now I only have 2 months left on clomid. I love being a mrs we saw our proper photos last night - they are perfect, cant wait to finally get the album in our hands (for anyone who wants a peek, I've put 2 new ones up)

Lots of people have been on/are on/have just come back from holidays - I am a bit useless so I hope you've had/are having/will have a lovely time! I think we are going to book our delayed honeymoon very soon :)

Sorry to not post more, am a bit crazy busy with work and home at the moment, will try to get back at the weekend.

Hugs to you all

moon your pictures are lovely, you both look so happy . Where are you going on your honeymoon?

neeko get your dh to play some golf up here, theres some good courses (so I've been told) and the open is up
Here NOW!!! Happy anniversary, 2002 was a good year

Moon Those pics are gorgeous!! I know you must be stressing about the time-limit on clomd but lease try not to. stic with your pma, book your honeymoon and have a honeymoon baby instead!
BTW I wasn't sure aboout posting about how I feel about my family, as I| know how lucky I am, but i also know i'm only here because of the support from all of you that has kept me sane.

Rumours I'd LOVE that,especally if we could open a botle of rose while they golf but I'm afraid Blackpool is not a cheap place to holiday. We could definitely have managed an all-inclusive week in the sun for less if DH wasn't ginger and the big economy drive and diet for Florida is now on! Short version= we're skint!

Hey lovelies, totally intending to have a nice catch up with each of you, so apologies in advance for quick me post in a snatched spare 5mins pre dinner time

Just a vent cos here is where it will be understood, really cos just heard our lovely consultant for recurrent miscarriage clinic has retired he was such a lovely inspiring supportive man and has been looking after us since after 3rd mc in 2008, and was our consultant through our pregnancy with Summer, really hoped he'd be with us to hopefully complete our family... Just having someone who knows us, and our whole history so well makes an absolute world of difference, I'm really gonna miss him.. Gutted..

Mad timing too, on monday its the anniversary of that 3rd loss, that was the only that got to 13wks but had huge nuchal fold/possible downs/edwards, then on the 26th its a year since 6th mc have lots of family birthdays this month which etches the dates firmly in the memory, I know to some it seems maudlin to remember, but I don't want to forget their albeit very short little lives, think cos of weekly scans and seeing heartbeats/having pics its even more inground... (don't know why I'm validating myself, know you all understand)

Anyway, I'm ok, not dwelling, just remembering and marking it in the place I know I can..

louey I got ds2's SALT appointment through, it's on 8th August, so not too bad in terms of waiting at all. The initial appointment will be about 40 mins with 2 SAL-thereapists, one is going to talk to me while the other plays and observes ds. Also got the school nurse coming out to see us in a couple of weeks about ds1's nocturnal enurisis (sp?) (bedwetting), so now just waiting for his appointment about his dyslexia. Busy, busy, busy, but all good

to everyone.

X-posts 4ever, hello lovely. It's sad your consultant is leaving, youve got so much 'history' with them, and trust. Hopefully your new consultant will be lovely too and maybe have some fresh thoughts and ideas for you.
I was gutted when ds1's team of people retired, moved on, left, and I've recently heard that his latest paediatritian is leaving too, I've just got settled with her, after 3 years!
Have a big squeezy hug. Onwards and upwards my lovely fellow weeble

rumours have you looked into acupuncture for ds1's bedwetting? Obviously I know it could potentially be a bit traumatic for him but worth a thought.. we know someone who as a child of 11/12 was still bedwetting a lot, & urinating too frequently during day, & a couple of accu sessions by gp (who was quite into alternative therapies) totally sorted it. Obviously I know nothing of how the problem relates to the asd etc so could be totally the wrong avenue but just thought I'd throw that out there. Great news about appointments.

4ever so sorry about your consultant retiring. :( can totally understand what a difference it makes having someone familiar look after you.. that's why I wanted my mum's friend at ds2's birth, she knew my history of Mc and forceps delivery etc.. otherwise you can feel a bit all at sea if you're always seeing new people who don't 'get it'. Really hope you get a fabulous new consultant who you & dh feel really comfortable with. Big hugs for sad anniversaries :(

moon BEAUTIFUL pics! You look so happy! Praying the Clomid works its magic very soon. I'm gonna dig out my fertility diet book again later to tell you what it says about ovulation stuff.. I always think whatever we can do naturally to help our bodies along is a very good bet!

Happy weekend all!

Hi cupcake I've never given acupuncture a thought to be honest, but I don't think ds would like it, he freaks out at needles. I will keep it in mind though thanks

Thank you Cupcake and Rumours (and Neeko for the tx) I am trying to put a positive spin on it and hoping that the new consultant may have some new miracle cure ideas, and might be more favourable to the LIT treatment do it for free!

Rumours all good stuff for DS apts, daunting, I'm sure, but hopefully will give lots of good feedback and plans to set in motion.. Good luck with your final assignment, feels like you have been doing it forever, so I'm sure a huge relief to get it done, a big when you do! When do you get your results?

Louey poor I being messed around by the drivers, the little i do know, is that routine and familiarity is essential so I bet he is really unsettled poor soul.. Bless O cruising though, that is such a lovely stage, the inquisitiveness and time for eyes in the back of your head!

Moonmrs you look so stunning and happy in your wedding photos, so lovely to see them.. I have every hope for you, and your positive attitude alone Im sure is doing wonders for you.. Any thoughts on the honeymoon yet? Do tell? This time 5 years ago we were still on ours...

Barbie well done to Dolly on the potty training! I know you mentioned when we met in April that she was already using the potty lots, unfortunately Summer seems a bit wary of it, have tried putting her on the loo but thats a no go too...

Cupcake I dont blame you waiting til Sebs weaned, chasing J with a potty while S is hanging off your boob would not be fun! How are your boys?

Lbm hoping for some sun for next weekend for you! Its MIL and my Nans birthday so we have get togethers on Saturday and Sunday, am keeping fingers crossed the rain stays away..

Neeko your holiday sounded lovely, albeit expensive! I bet M did love it as well if Summer was anything to go by, am totally sold on caravan hols after Weymouth, just so perfect for kids! Ideally would do a week in a caravan and a week in the sun, sadly no sun hols this year, and have realised next year must make the most of not being tied to school hols, cos as of next sept, we will be over a barrel like half the nation with the triple price holidays in the 6 weeks break... How do they get away with that? Sooo unfair...

Monkey my lovely, I've been a bit rubbish at txing, but so glad your apt went well, the aspirin is a must in my eyes, but the hcg injections sound amazing, everything x'd for you.. Hope you are having a fabulous revitalising and restoring holiday lovely.. Though at the shoe stealing incident!! Just remembered though (I say optimistically with rose tinted specs that the world isnt all bad ) maybe the sea washed them away? I remember on honeymoon Dh lost a flip flop, that may still be floating round the Indian ocean now!

Blue happy holidays to you too! Are you still your caravan?

So, remembering my little 3rd lost angel today.. Probably the most traumatic loss of all tbh, this time 4years ago we were devastated, and the thought of ever having our beautiful Summer seemed a very long way away, so I am counting my blessing for our little miracle, and remembering our lost angel with a as well as xxxxxxx

4ever for the anniversary of your third llo. For some reason I always think of him as a boy... Mixed emotions saying goodbye to your consultant but heartily back your positive spin re: new consultant = new ideas = new successes. Do you have an appointment date with your new consultant? I would be keen to give him all the backstory so when you get your BFP, he can go right ahead and get everything set in place without you having the stress of telling him your journey to date...

Belated anniversary too to you and your DDH.

Back to work today after lovely, energising and life affirming two weeks off with my boys. I feel like I've been off for a month . Think its because we did 4 days at the caravan, 3 days at home, 4 days at my sister's holiday house in Kingussie, 3 days at home. Made the time off last forever! All washing done and dusted and back in the drawers. Bikini never saw the light of day (thanks god say the locals) but it was dry most days and warm every day so we embraced the Scottish countryside especially the Lochs and it felt amazing walking with the boys, skimming stones, eating fish and chips and playing monopoly at night (I won - much to the annoyance of DH who didn't know you could buy houses at any point rather than only when you landed on the street - he was seething as I bankrupted him )

Off to order my kindle tonight, swithering between the cheapest one (Scottish tight wad) or the new touch... Read 'The Lovely Bones' on holiday - anyone else read it? It was haunting and really whet my appetite for reading again. I used to hoover up books in the days when I commuted to work and before- the boys reduced my attention span to that of a goldfish.

Love to all, will do a proper catch up before the week's out x

Ah blue that sounds like a lovely holiday! Am quite
I've read the Lovely Bones.. really good. I just read another Alice Sebold, The Almost Moon.. also quite haunting but really well written. I love having a fresh wave of reading enthusiasm..I'm on one too at the mo :) enjoy your kindle!

4ever hugs for sad anniversary.. never forgotten x

Sorry I'm lurking Freddie is at the vets, not got news. Cancer we think. Dolly is beside herself. More news at three....

4ever sorry I missed your sad anniversary, my head is up my a** don't know if I'm coming or going!

Will try to post more later.

so sorry barbie

barbie

back later if DCs allow - I'm flying solo

oh, poor freddie and you all, barbie, hope you have some more info now and the language isn't making a difficult situation more difficult.

Not good news. Blood cancer only a matter or weeks if not days. Dreading having to tell dolly. She had her first accident tonight, she pooed because Fred didn't come home from the vets in time for bed. She cried is sheer frustration and then had the accident. I have my best friends wedding this weekend now it looks like we can't go. Wouldn't consider leaving Fred in kennels or with a stranger and we don't think he is up for the car journey, I could fly on my own with the children but to be honest it would be so stressful I would t enjoy the time there. I had no idea losing a dog could be so hard, I was always the. Heartless one who couldnt understand peo

People mourning a pet. Well karma has well and truly bit me in the bum! I'm in bits!

So sorry to hear ur news barbie. I've never had a dog but imagine it must be somewhat similar to having a child. Thinking of you all and hoping the end is peaceful xxx

Oh no barbie - I'm so sorry . I've never had a dog but I know DH was devastated when his childhood dog had to be put to sleep. I hope he passes peacefully when it happens. Hugs to you all xxx