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Emmsy's ladies lets roll into spring together! Bring on some sunshine!

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4everhopeful · 06/02/2012 13:39

About time I start a thread! Pom poms still shaking, bumps growing, babies and toddlers talk a plenty, while the support, laughs, hand holds and weebling continues...

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BuddhaBelly · 20/06/2012 03:48

Thanks for kind thoughts ladies mls yes using opks and pre-seed right from the start.
Blue Probably should go to gp but decided tonight that we're going to take a couple of months off as we've got more issues with E's behaviour which is very stressful and probably not helping our aim to get pg. Also feel like I need a break from the ttc roller coaster an not having that huge dip every month when we've failed Sad Might stop me feeling so pressured Confused
Moon loving your PMA married lady Wink
4everI have everything crossed for this next cycle for you Smile
Barbie Lovely to hear that things with H are settling down, I'm sure that D does not need a referral to a psychiatrist Shock if it's any help E doesn't have a good deal with food, won't try anything new for me, some days he eats like a horse other days survives on nothing but I've just learnt to accept that's the way it is and not make a big deal of it with him.

Nursery told my in laws today that we need to ring our local children's centre re E's behaviour Hmm I'm so Angry that they've not waited to speak to me in the morning if they feel that strongly about it instead of telling me through a third party. They've only mentioned his behaviour a couple of times this year so didn't think he was misbehaving with nursery (just with us) but now without warning this! I don't feel that we're getting any support or communication from them I'm so Angry hence posting at this time I just can't sleep. I know he's no angel, in fact last week I spoke to a friend from away who runs a children's centre about it, this weekend she bought a DVD workbook and info sheets round so we can do some homework Wink and assess how we're dealing with E's tantrums and challenges. If anyone is still reading apologies for rant but I feel a bit lost as I can't turn to mum as she's a "smacker" and thinks that's where we've gone wrong, very unsupportive Sad and just adds to me feeling like I'm failing E. I know it's probably just a phase but surely if nursery are now pointing out its a problem there's something more to it?
Sorry again for rant x

MummysLittleSunbeams · 20/06/2012 04:10

buddha please don't feel like a failure. To your ds you are the best mum in the world. It's shit that the nursery didn't speak to you directly, not to mention unprofessional.

My friend went through something similar after the preschool told her the same thingAngry about her ds. They ended up having to get professionals involved & have him assessed. The pre-school were saying all sorts of things such as add & aspergers but it turned out that he was simply a spirited little boy who liked to run around all the time & not listen to what he was being told to do.

Sending you {{{hugs}}}.

cupcakefairy · 20/06/2012 04:13

Just wanted to add my support & hugs for buddha as I'm up reading too.. (hi mls!) Proper post tomorrow but just wanted to say hi.. and don't apologise for ranting its what we're here for! X

barbie1 · 20/06/2012 09:19

buddha how fricking dare there Angry speak to you non directly and involve a third party. I would be right on the phone to the head teacher demanding an apologie and telling her only contact you directly. Feckers! I'm bloody fuming on your behalf.
Write an email also, back up everything you have told us and how unhelpful, unsupportive and how bollocks the communication has been. Demand to know what they will do to help. Grrrrrrr....
Off to do some washing but will be back soon
(stomps off in a mood thinking about buddha and the shitty nursery)

4everhopeful · 20/06/2012 11:04

Waves to late night lady lurkers Smile and washer woman barbie! Smile

Am also coming in to offer Buddha a calming hug and add my 2 penneth worth to the mix - firstly the nursery sound bang out of order there, so if i were you id arrange a meeting with them, write a list of all your issues with them and have it out, does sound like they have terrible communication Angry

Secondly what constitutes bad behavior in a 2yr old ffs? Hmm Summer is definitely what you would call 'spirited' she is permanently on the go, running, jumping, climbing, she often won't do as she's told, and like every 2yr old there will be times we won't let her do/have something that end up in an almighty tantrum! But, as far as I'm concerned, this is totally normal behavior! At this age they are developing their emotions and understanding of the world, and pushing every boundary possible, i think that's healthy! Of course I've had very fleeting moments of worry too, as I've wondered if shes too hyper, or a bit wild, when we met up with Curly Sabs & Barbie, there girls were very chilled and well behaved & i did think OMG as Summer refused to sit in a highchair, ran round the restaurant, and I chased her round the Tate as she tried to escape from the play area(!) Confused However there will be other times she is as good as gold, and plays and draws quietly and contentedly for hours, and i realise I've absolutely nothing to worry about... Basically what I'm saying, is that as first time mums, we've nothing to gage behaviors and development on, and even comparing other kids, is a no no, as each child, as with each adult, are different personalities... I know as a mum, we question everything and just want the best for our kids, but, I also think we should trust our own instincts and judgement over anyone else, as they are our babies and we know them better than anyone.. Mum knows best! You sound like a fantastic and brilliant mum, never doubt yourself, pat yourself on the back... Wink

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BuddhaBelly · 21/06/2012 02:30

Thank you lovely ladies for your kind words and Angry on my behalf, at least I feel justified about the way I was feeling. I spoke to the person directly who was talking to my in laws, expressed very clearly that I was very Angry and upset, she explained that she meant quite innocently that she just wanted me to be aware that there was extra support out there for E to help deal with his spitting and hitting. She said she definitely didn't mean for it to come across that they had a a problem with his behaviour, he was no different to any if the others Hmm I told her I'd list confidence in the nursery and felt they lacked communication skills (I also cried but lets not mentio that bit Wink) I got a call from the dep mgr at lunchtime reiterating the same thing, lots of apologies and inviting me to have a mtg with them for ME not E as they had no major concerns but they had not supported me. She also had been through his home/nursery diary and wanted his lead to come to mtg as she had some pointers for her too, to ensure he's engaged. Feel much better after crying all day and being pretty useless at work Blush Thanks again for being there to listen and advice Smile

4everhopeful · 22/06/2012 10:05

Hey ladies, been txing monkey, the poor lovelys been really stressed as she's been bleeding for a few days now, but her bloods yest show hcg levels all good! Smile She is having more bloods tomorrow, her head is understandably screwed, and she just asked i fill you all in, as she felt bad for not posting (though of course she shouldn't!)

Hope all good with you all?

Buddha really glad you got some resolution with the nursery, at least they seem to be offering some support and understanding, I'm sure E will come out of this phase soon, everyone reckons that 3 is such a turning point for them...

Talking of which, I've got Summers 2yr check coming up, had to postpone as was originally the wk I mc'd.. What should I expect? Am expecting her to be like 120th percentile height wise Grin but no clue what else?!

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4everhopeful · 22/06/2012 10:08

Ooop meant to say big group hand holding circle to send loads of positive vibes Belgium way to the lovely monkey xx

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Rumours · 22/06/2012 11:30

Lots of hugs, chocolate and tea for lovely monkey. Im glad your hcg levels are positive, and remember bleeding doesn't mean the end, I bled with both boys, so stressful I know, but hold onto that hope.

buddha hope things settle down for you and E, nursery sound like they're trying to put things right, but they shouldn't have let things get to this point. Keep on at them, keep asking how his behaviour is, if you've had a bad morning with him then let them know, they in turn can tell you how he was during the day, then can you then spot any patterns in his behaviour? Always communicate. I'm a pain in the bum sometimes, but it has to be done. Plus 2 is a difficult age, I am at the point where I dread going out on my own with ds2 because he's so much hard work. I'm not used to 'normal' 2, not had it before, but it is HARD WORK!!!!! Hugs and chocolate for you too Smile

4ever thanks for letting us know how monkey is Smile

Well we've got a referral to SALT for ds2, will just take it from there.

moonmrs · 22/06/2012 18:41

positive thoughts for monkey and bean, big hugs, and here's hoping its just bean getting comfy for the next few months

Loueytb3 · 22/06/2012 20:14

Aargh - why can't things be simple. It seems so cruel that having already had mcs that we all seem to have then suffered with bleeding in subsequent pregnancies. monkey really really hope that tomorrow's test shows levels nicely doubling and it is just implantation bleeding. Sending all positive thoughts I can your way.

rumours glad you got the referral - any idea how long it will take? Am hoping that SALT in Scotland is not as dire as it is here. I was talking to lady yesterday who said that she had received a letter taking her DS off the waiting list because she hadn't accessed their services for a year. She hadn't accessed their services because she was still waiting for an appointment!!

buddha It sounds as though nursery handled that really badly and I would have been Angry too. However they sound like they know they are in the wrong and are trying to sort things out. It sounds very much like E is a typical 2 year old, and believe me, they are very trying! They will also try it on much more with you then with nursery. Which doesn't help I know but at least you know that its normal. Isaac is shocking with us, but is like an angel with the childminder and at school.

moonmrs am very glad your DH is throwing himself in to operationgettingMrsMoonknocked up Grin Onwards and upwards and here's to the next cycle.

4ever So glad you had a lovely holiday - just what you needed! Really can't remember what they did at the 2yr check. Or even if we had one. At that point we were having assessments for Isaac and panicking about it all. They will probably check language and ask about some of her motor skills I expect. She's just perfect as you know so it will be fine Smile

barbie am Shock at your nursery staff that they think a child not eating = referral to psychiatrist. It so common for kids to do this, and it seems to be more common with girls for some reason. Half my NCT group's girls refused to eat at nursery for a very long time. One made herself sick on a regular basis. They are all fine, they all got through it given time and space and no pressure. Dolly is just exerting her independence in her own little way. I know its really difficult to deal with though so hope for your sake she decides it is worth eating soon.

sabs how is Saara? Hope she didn't get a bad dose in the end.

cupcake sounds like you are doing fantastically well - there will always be days of screaming babies and toddlers playing up but they will be a distant
memory and you have the sense of humour to deal with it all.

mls poor you! Hope your cold is on the mend, its just so wrong to have one in June.

How did the blue and neeko meet up go??

blue did your Isaac get top marks?? And well done for his project which clearly had some help from Mum Grin We've still got a month of school to go, but next week starts the round of sports days etc.

neeko planning application will be decided by 27th July, fingers crossed it gets approved. Then the plan is that they will start a couple of weeks later. Still trying to sort out a plumber to change the boiler. They seem very busy round here so getting one to call back/visit/actually do a quote is turning into a nightmare.

LBM chickens!! How fab. Do you know I used to think people who kept chickens were a little bit barmy, but now I can totally see the attraction. Apart from chicken poo, obviously. I'm sure your DCs think they're great.

This week's excitement chez louey involved a trip to A&E yesterday with Isaac who fell over at school and then vomited and complained of being sleepy. He's fine but I had a mad dash around the borough as the minor injuries clinic had a massive wait due to Drs strike.

Am so fed up with this weather too. But it does look a bit better next week (always optimistic me). Right, need to go and sort out some dinner. Love to you all x

Loueytb3 · 22/06/2012 22:43

And before I forget - happy 1st birthday to a special little boy! BQ hope he has had a lovely day

cupcakefairy · 24/06/2012 14:45

Hello :)
How is everyone?
louey hope Isaac is ok?? Trips to a & e are never fun!
Wow you're good remembering birthdays..bq so sorry your ds's went a little unnoticed too..hope he had a lovely time, bet u can't believe its been a year!

mls you are seriously supermum, loving all your pox remedies will have to ask u again when mine get it ;) is bio oil working? I'm going through it at quite a rate slathering it onto my stretch marks but doesn't seem to be making a difference :(

4ever hope s has settled back to her sleep routine now. Ds1 is being a bit naughty about naps at the mo getting out of bed.. I've had to resort to watching him to sleep Grin bit of a pita standing in his doorway for 10 minutes but it works surprisingly well!!

buddha bloody glad the nursery have come through now..sounds like they are trying hard to be supportive but just messed up a bit last week.. hope the meeting with them helps & I'm glad they don't think E is a big worry. And hey, which of us hasn't cried in a situation like that! Hope you're feeling ok about it all.

rumours great news about the salt referral. Hope it comes through quickly.

And finally our lovely monkey I'm so so sorry you're going through yet more trials. I sent up a little prayer for you in church this morning. Really hope all tests etc coming up normal and you can try to relax a little (pah, impossible I know!) Loads of love to you x

All going well here.. ds2 weighed this morning 11lb 11oz at nearly 5 weeks.. what a chunk!

monkeybumsmum · 24/06/2012 20:45

Evening all. Hope you've all had a lovely weekend...

Louey sorry to hear about poor Isaac, hope he's recovered now! I did like the photo of him on FB, was he actually driving?!

Buddha so sorry to hear about what happened at E's nursery. Who was it who told your in-laws that? It seems a terribly unprofessional thing to do, and I do hope that s/he was spoken to about that. I'm sorry, but at the age of 2 it's quite normal to be having tantrums and spitting and hitting as far as I'm concerned, especially with boys! We have had four year olds in my class that are still doing exactly that! Please don't worry too much, it sounds like you are a brilliant mum Grin

Cupcake lovely to hear that ds is nice and cuddly, sounds like you're doing brilliantly!

Thanks everyone for the kind words and thoughts over the last week or so, but sadly it wasn't meant to be. As 4ever said (thanks so much for updating by the way Smile) I started bleeding, was convinced we'd lost it, then had a good blood test. They told me not to worry, but the bleeding carried on. When I went back yesterday my hCG levels had dropped by 40%, so they said to stop the progesterone and that the bleeding should then get heavier. It actually stopped shortly after the call Confused. I have googled frantically to try to find a case of hCG rising again after a big drop, but it doesn't look good. The bleeding still hasn't started again, but I don't feel pregnant any more so I guess I'll start to miscarry properly over the next few days. I have to go back on Wed for another blood test so that will be interesting. I'm wondering if they're worried about it possibly being an ectopic pregnancy, so will ask when I go.

Thanks again for all the texts and support, you are all fab Smile

Love to all
Xxx

moonmrs · 24/06/2012 21:30

monkey :( I'm so sorry to hear your news, but, even though it may not look good, its not the end just yet, so I'll be be keeping my fingers and toes tightly crossed for a little miracle xxx

MummysLittleSunbeams · 24/06/2012 21:31

Oh monkey my poor love. Words fail me. This is utter shit & you deserve a break ffs. Sending you a massive hug. I don't know why this keeps happening, it's so unfair. You so deserve things to go your way, I wish there was something I could do. Sad

4everhopeful · 24/06/2012 21:38

Hello again moon my lovely.. Sad I know we've been txing but just want to offer an mn hug and again say how unfair and shitty this all is.... Sad However you didn't mention you'd stopped bleeding Hmm so like moonmrs ill be holding out for that miracle too.. Huge hugs brave lady... xxxxxxx

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4everhopeful · 24/06/2012 21:41

STUPID predictive tx made monkey moon, sorry... Blush

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cupcakefairy · 24/06/2012 21:50

monkey words fail me too...can't believe this is happening to you again it's properly crap :( will be praying hard for a miracle, and for strength for you and dh. xxx

Rumours · 24/06/2012 22:03

I too will be prayin for you {{{{{ monkey }}}}}

Loueytb3 · 24/06/2012 22:31

Oh crap monkey I was so hoping you had a good blood test on Friday SadSadSad It's so bloody unfair. {{{{{hugs}}}}} from me. Still clinging on to a bit of hope for you that one of them is clinging on xxxx

BuddhaBelly · 25/06/2012 07:10

Another one here clinging to the last bit of hope for you Sad Monkey
So sorry it wasn't better news Sad

Rumours · 25/06/2012 08:13

Morning
monkey how are you this morning?

monkeybumsmum · 25/06/2012 09:14

Thanks girls, you are lovely. Dashing off to work as running late so just a quicky, but have started bleeding again but only lightly. V odd. Will know more Wed, but not hopeful at all.
Thanks again xxx

Neeko · 25/06/2012 20:35

Oh monkey Sad really hope there's a miracle out there for you.