IVF/ICSI/FET - any more for any more?

[jumpingjackhash]

Hi all, we're about to start FET following an unsuccessful round of ICSI last year (well, we got the bfp, but then I miscarried shortly after ). But... time to get back on the bike and go again...

Anyone else going through this?

Hi All,

Hope you are all well.

Knackered - 16 eggs that is great news, fingers crossed that you receive good news in the phone call that you receive from the clinic tomorrow.

We went for another scan today and have been told that egg collection is on Saturdayat 9.30am.... am very nervous. There are only 8 follicles that are above the line at the moment, there are another 4 they hope will grow by Saturday. I just hope that we manage to get a decent number of eggs this time round, that are mature and fertilise. Fingers crossed.

xxx

Knackeredmum that is great go those eggs and swimmers.
Lumili that seems a good number and plenty of time for the others to catch up. It is quality. It quantity that counts. Remember it only takes one

Lumili I agree completely with bugsy. It's definitely quality not quantity re eggs. The embryologist told us yesterday that when they get lots of eggs (like they did with me), they tend to have a smaller proportion that are of good quality.

This is definitely playing out with me. In my first cycle, 12 eggs were collected, which were all really healthy and good quality. All 12 fertilised, although one didn't fertilise normally. So I started off on day 1 with 11 good quality fertilised eggs.

This time they got 16 eggs from me, and only 11 were really healthy. 9 fertilised, but only 7 normally (2 were fertilised by 2 sperms). So there you go, I'm proof that it's quality not quantity!

Oh lizzie, it must be a really difficult time for you at the moment. No wonder you are feeling totally fed up.

Bugsy - I know you are right, but it is so nerve wracking. We would like to be able to put 2 good quality embyos back.

KnackeredCow - You have 7 that have fertilised though, that is great. Will you be having a day 3 transfer or going to blastocyst?

Lizzie - How are things with you?

lumili Hoping for a day 5 blasto. I'd rather have 1 good blastocyst than 2 day-2 or day-3 embryos. At the clinic I'm with the success rate is higher with one good blasto than two at an earlier stage. But obviously, it will depend on how many I have tomorrow and on Sunday. I certainly wouldn't want to risk losing them all.

However, we're really hoping to get two good blastocysts and have them both transferred. I got pregnant with an eSET in December, but had a very early m/c. Then our single frozon blasto didn't thaw , so FET was cancelled. I don't want to go through that again. Last fresh cycle I had quite a high attrition rate from day 1 to day 2. (My clinic counts EC day as day 0). I went from 11 to 8. Obviously, I'm starting with 7 so hoping for less attrition this time. On the nerve wracking wait until tomorrow now!

Lizzie Not sure. My clinic phones me everyday and makes the decision based on the number and quality of embryos. I have to be on standby on days 2 and 3. If on day 3 they think we'll almost certainly get at least one good quality blast, they'll take me through to Tuesday.

Lizzie Gosh that sounds really strange. Do they know why your HCG levels are going up. Did you have a DET?

Knackered - fingers crossed you reach the blasto stage. Waiting for that phone call to tell you how many have made it is awful. We have never reached blasto stage. First time around was a day 3 transfer and 2nd time was a day 1 :-(. We are hoping to achieve 2 good quality embryos for a day 3 transfer this time around. What clinic are you with? Very sorry to hear about your m/c... it is so awful. This happened to us first time.

Lizzie - good luck at the hospital.

lumili very best of luck for tomorrow

knackered fingers crossed for your embies, it's so nerve wracking waiting for the embryologist to call

lizzie hope all goes OK at the hospital

xx

Hi everyone, just checking in to see how you all are. Lizziebennet I'm sorry you're going through all this, I hope the hospital are able to help you quickly so you can move on. Well done for staying level headed about it all, and looking forward to your next try.

Lumili and knackered I definitely agree its quality not quantity! My first time 15 eggs, 7 at day 3, only 1 early blasto left, second time 11 eggs only 3 left by day 3 but at least one stuck! There's a poster on here called teds77 who is pregnant with twins and I think she only had 3 eggs collected.

I'm fine, now 5+2 and feeling ok mostly, very very scared about scan next Thursday so finding it hard to relax and enjoy the fact it actually worked!

Hi ladies, can I join? Been trying for almost 2 years and not quite a week into my first IVF cycle. I'm feeling really low at the moment and could do with some support. I'm worried it's all going to be for nothing and I can't stand the waiting (I've got about 6 weeks left!) Anyway, I got ill on Tuesday and ended up being taken into hosp in an ambulance from work after passing out in the tea room and I wonder if perhaps it's all a bit too much and maybe my body is telling me to have a break

Hope it all goes well lizzie.

ellan - I know it's hard but try not to worry about your scan - just try to visualise seeing it all there on the screen! You can tell I've been listening to my Zita West CD, I'm going all soft and hippy!

Welcome JosieSmith1, sorry you're feeling down. It's par for the course at times but you'll definitely get support and the odd laugh here. I guess you're down-regging at the moment? Sorry you've been in hospital - do they know what caused you to pass out?

Hi Jumping yeah I thought it might be part of the whole IVF experience, at the moment I'm just desperate to leave work so I can have a good cry. Yes I'm on buserelin to stop everything working normally (I'm not quite au fait with the lingo yet). I've got some inspirational songs on my ipod, I might have a listen when I get home, try to lift my spirits a bit. The hosp don't know why I passed out, at first I thought it was a reaction to the IVF meds but it doesn't seem to be, which is a relief. I think I might have just been comkpletely exhausted. I've had a blood test this morning for diabetes as my sugar was higher than normal but I don't think anything will come of it. I'm sick of being a pin cushion too, I didn't realise the toll it would take on my physically aswell as emotionally

Afternoon all!

I've just been to a lovely yoga session which was a great way to start the weekend (I'm very lucky and only have to work the mornings from home on a Friday). I spoke to the clinic yesterday who have told me that I will start down-regging on 13th March and then my egg collection will happen around w/c 9th April... it seems a way away, but I know it will go really quickly! I also am pleased by the fact that it's fittingly around the easter time - Easter, Eggs - they seem to go together... :)

Josie Hello! Nice to meet you! I am a first time IVF-er too... sorry to hear about your fainting, it does all get a bit too much sometime doesn't it? Try to be kind to yourself and make sure you have people around you that are spoiling you. Best of luck with everything and you'll find it very friendly and supportive here - I know I have found it helpful reading people's real accounts of the processes involved... and for me I also like knowing that I'm not the only one (all of my friends seem super fertile, blink and they're pregnant types).

Lizzie Best of luck at the hospital, it sounds horrible what you are going through and you seem so strong and philosophical about it. You are an inspiration!

Knackered - Congratulations on the eggs and the 7 fertilisations - that's brilliant! I will keep everything crossed for the two blasto option for you...

Lumili Best of luck with everything tomorrow!

Happy weekends to all!

sorry haven't read all just wanted to say to Lizzie good luck. It is methotrexate isn't it. Do not think of it as cancer drug but as a drug they use for treating arthritis these patients have weekly injections or tablets and do really well and are obviously quite well people alot of the time. It is very effective for ectopic pregnancies. will be thinking of you HUgs

Hi all
Day 3 of bulserin (or whatever it's called) spray - god - it's making me thristy and windy also making me feel a bit sickly this time around - wierd. Also i cant remember - re alcohol, is everyone abstaining on here while they do the drugs pre IVF? It's so HARD to! Also I have a hen night tonight and don't really know any of the girls going, so don't want to draw attention to the fact i'm not getting pissed with them all...
Good luck to lumili
Welcome Josie phew it's a rollercoaster alright - but we are all here to help!
jumping hello to you - how are you doing?
ellan I can understnad how you must be feeling so nervous about next Thurs - hope it all goes well.
lizzie sounds like a tough ride so far - relaly hope things at the hospital go smoothly... will they give you ageneral?
Happy sunny weekends to you all!
ZB

Hi all,
Oh Lizzie, you really are going through the mill but as the others say, you really do sound amazingly positive so I will keep everything crossed that you have deserved success next time.
lumil here's fingers crossed that you get to blast stage. Thinking of you.
knackered I am hoping that Tuesday is your day...!
milly I am loving your PMA - it really is the only way to be although it is blooming tricky at times. Good on you!
josie a big welcome and I hope that you find that this place is a good way to get your worries and fears off your chest so you can continue in the best way you can to make sure that this cycle is your baby cycle!
ellan is your scan this Thurs or next? Mine is this Thurs... am now 6+3 and am feeling so nervous. I had some horrendous cramping on Tues and really thought that it might be ectopic but the cramps have stopped and I am feeling sick as a dog most afternoons and evenings so that can only be a good thing?! POAS on Weds and was still positive although that can mean nothing... just a few more sleeps though and I am hoping for a heart beat on the screen.

To everyone else hello! I am sorry not to have named you all. Just feeling absolutely shattered. Have also got a horrid cold to add it the mix. Sorry for the moan. Will shush now and try and eat the chicken DH has kindly prepared.
xxx

Hi Ladies, hope you are all well.

Just a quick message, we had our egg collection today and guess what.... they managed to retrieve 11 eggs. We can't believe our luck. This is the most we have ever had. lets hope it really is third time lucky. I am so excited.

Of course, we have to wait for the call tomorrow morning, to let us know how many have fertilised. They are even talking about going to blasto stage, something which we have never been able to consider before. Woo hoo.

i know there are still many hurdles to get over, but we are one step nearer :-)

xxx

Thank you all for you support. Having needle phobia, I'm finding the injections quite hard at the moment but I'm lucky in that I'm already a week down and so far I only have 2 bruises (touch wood it stays that way). I felt pretty down about it all yesterday but today I'm feeling better, and definitely trying to take it one stage at a time. Out of interest, does anyone on buserelin find they wee a lot? I'm weeing for britain right now, very annoying! Other than that not many side effects yet, a bit of cramping, some headaches and feeling quite run down, but otherwise nothing major. Does anyone have low AMH either? I've been told I have a high chance of not producing enough follicles so naturally I'm pretty nervous that in three weeks it'll all be over forever!

Lumili 11 eggs is amazing, fingers crossed for tomorrow

Hi all
Back from hen - surrounded by fertile ladies all night- hilariously had to do sniff no 1 Under the dinner table at 8pm and then sniff no 2 in the karaoke booth behind my coat at 11pm while people sang "living on a prayer"... Anyone else have amusing sniff story/location they want to share??
Hey ho... Got the cat on my lap and off to sleep now. Night all!
Z x

Hi all,

Well we received the call this morning and not good news at all. Out of the 11 eggs, only 7 were mature and out of that 7 only 1 has fertilised. Absolutely devastated!!

They want us to go for a day 2 transfer tomorrow, only if that one survives the night!!

I can't beleive it, we were hoping for so much more..........

lumili I am so for you- how disappointing not to have a higher number fertilze. Just remember it only takes 1 & that one they will put back could be it! Sending positive vibes to your embie to get stronger today and tonight ...