IVF/ICSI/FET - any more for any more?

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Hi all, we're about to start FET following an unsuccessful round of ICSI last year (well, we got the bfp, but then I miscarried shortly after ). But... time to get back on the bike and go again...

Anyone else going through this?

Brill news Josie, let us know how you get on x

great news Josie - so happy for you that things are looking up.
angel I did enjoy that You tube clip of the embryo - i hope to GOD that is what is going on inside me at the mo!
x

It is fascinating, isn't it! I also found a journal that has some very interesting facts about the timing of the embryo and endometrium meeting, and how they need to be aligned to allow implantation - Which is why only 40% of natural/spontaneous cycles are successful... I fear I am becoming a nerd slightly obsessive freak.
I have got good hopes for you my dear, stay strong, it's only four more days!

I too hope that our little bur is remaining strong and sticky. I've had a very stressful day and am now worried that I may have done some detriment. No amount of thoughts about athletic, caffeine or drug addicted Mums being successful is taking the edge of it either I've been a teary mess all day and couldn't sleep well last night. Ho hum. I can hardly wait for this 2ww to be over!
Someone slap me.

Oh Angel - the TWW is so hard - have about a good cry and a bubble bath? It is so hard not to worry - but as you said not long to go now. How hideous to have to oggle at scan photos of your inlaws over Easter-it is impossible not to be resentful in that situation - if not you would have to be a saint. I think the symptoms you have are probably progesterone related and hopefully natural levels! I had such sore boobs in the TWW i could hardly shower - ouch. It is weird how you find that crankiness is much worse in the evenings too.

Hope you are managing through it too Zee

Hope your cycle ride helped Care and you are feeling a bit better.

Josie that is really positive news - it is great to have something to focus on - delighted for you about the other clinic referral.

AFM have been feeling a bit more human today - but AF almost gone, which has been ages now - about 10 days. Spoke to DH yesterday who was very understanding, luckily about my flipping out at the weekend. He had spoken to a work colleague whose wife had 6 goes at ivf before it worked - he said she went completely "mental" during and after the cycles- so glad he knows it is not just me, but I did apologise to him. I don't think partners or husbands quite get the depth of emotion you are going through - as it is your body and hormones which are messed up on top of everything else!
I have heard quite a few success stories over the past few days - if that gives us hope here - but the key was persistence. Easy to say , i know..........

hey guys, josie glad to hear you are feeling more positive.
Raspberry do you think you might have another try ?

I am 4weeks + 4 days today and started to have red spotting so who knows what is in store. This is such a long journey and I am watching this thread with interest. I really am not sure how many times I can do this but when I read your posts I do get inspired.

waves to others.. sorry I haven't written personals.. I am lurking just nothing much to say right now.. apart from the horrid spotting. Too early to scan so can only wait. WAIT it is all we do isn't it !

Oh duggs, is it possible for you to get some acupuncture tomorrow?
I have heard that it is very successful at maintaining pregnancy even when mc is thought to be inevitable, as my colleague had it work for her after spotting and then bleeding for 2 days, and she went on to have an enjoyable pregnancy and a little girl at the end. Worth a try at this precious stage.
And yes, the waiting, and hoping we've been dealt the good hand this time is just too flaming nerve wracking

oh that sounds sh1t, sorry
I didn't mean a mc was inevitable for you, it was inevitable for my colleague. Hope I didn't upset you x

Hi Duggs - hope the spotting settles soon - hopefully that is all it is - the waiting must be torturous for you.
Angel that's a good suggestion - I have found it deeply relaxing when I have had acupuncture in the past. Have you a busy week this week or can you take some time for yourself?
I'm still mulling over options at the mo duggs - and have my review and a counselling appointment next week. Haven't ruled out another go though - can't believe I just wrote that after how shit I felt the past 10 days!

Duggs I really hope the spotting has stopped. Although, I don't want to get your hopes up, but I have heard it can happen in early pg with no ill effects. Do you have a midwife yet you could speak to? Or could you speak to a nurse at the clinic, maybe there's something they can suggest or do to help

Raspberry I'm glad you're feeling more human, you don't realise what a toll it takes on you until you feel better sometimes! Coming to the end of my first go I said I couldn't do it again, but when it failed I was like 'right, when can we start again', it's weird how your emotions work isn't it

Angel the 2ww plays tricks with your mind, I hope you're feeling a bit more positive and less stressed today

AFM, got my referral to the other clinic from the GP last night. He was reluctant at first and wanted me to wait for my follow up apt but I have June in my head now and don't want to miss it, but my confidence is low at the moment (always is after bad news right now) so I just sort of looked at DH pleadingly and I'm sure my expression said 'please persuade him' and he stepped in and gently prodded him to make the referral So now I have to sit and wait for an appt!!!

Oh wow, where is everybody?
You must all be out enjoying the lovely drizzle the entire country is masked in .
Whatever you're up to, I hope you're all keeping well x

Duggs I notice that you haven't been on, so I really hope that your spotting has settled down x

Hey Raspberry, when do you go/are you going back for your follow up?

Good news re your referral Josie, hopefully it won't be too long until your appt comes through. But you're right about 2ww playing with your mind!

Hi ladies I'm in Egypt on holiday ( booked a million yrs ago) ! Still bleeding bright red blood went to hospital here ( as wanted wine if mc ) had scan 4+5 days. One sac collapsed and miscarrying. Other still hanging in there looking hopeful. So could go either way. How is everyone else ?

Duggs I am so incredibly sorry to hear your news. I am praying for your second sac to be healthy

I got a shock today when there was a knock on the office door and in walks a colleague who's on maternity leave, with her newborn daughter Luckily that panic response I used to get has subsided now, so although I was sad, I was able to ogle the baby from a distance. There was a slight feeling of missing something, but I tried to subdue it by thinking there's still a chance I could have that. I'm also looking into fees for going private. Hopefully I won't need to, but I'm researching, just in case

Duggs been thinking about you - I hope everything continues less eventfully with the other sac - gosh such difficult times - you must both be feeling rocked after the scan... i know how you feel. Thinking of you! Hope at least there is some spring sunshine over there for you ?

josie so hard when colleagues arrive shoving a baby in your face - it's like a rule that we automatically have to swoon over it and smile broadly - very difficult to do. Really pleased about your appointment - June is not far away at all.

raspberry thank you for your thoughts - the 2WW is a killer at this stage I am supposed to be testing on saturday but might test tomorrow morning - as DH and I both have the day off...

AFM I have minimal symptoms still - soreish 's, a feeling in my abdomen that AF is coming and general fatigue - but that's pretty normal when the weather is so cold and wet I think! I also hsad a horrid feeling in my abdomen the other night of something passing acros- have NO idea what that might have been and dread to think it's perhaps one of the the embryos coming out - argh, why can't we look into our bellies & see what the f**k is going on in there??
Night all

Hi all
Not good news this end... Tested this morning - 1 day early and it's a BFN. Still numb from the shock & disappointed to say the least. Will test again tomorrow but feel that the result won't change.....

Zeebee so sorry for your bpn the clinic will prob get you to re test in 2 days. No words lots of cuddles, time out and be good to yourselves
Duggs so sorry for lost one lets hope the second is a sticky enjoy your hols

Oh gosh... Zee... I'm so sorry. It may be a late sticker. If not, I think both you and DH deserve a very self indulgent weekend.

I fear that I am not far behind you. I poas this morning, naughty I know, but I was convinced it would show up if positive, but no, I am now still in limbo land, which is just plain cruel.
I am starting to get frustrated with my body for not giving me definite signs and for not being able to exercising, clean my kitchen floor or have my weekly cup of coffee... Ho hum. What I am trying to say is that you're not alone. Chin up my lovely x

Duggs what fabulous news! Both stuck and one is still sticking. I'm obviously gutted for what you are experiencing right now, but you've got so much to be positive for and it's just not fair that you're in Egypt during a week of constant drizzle. Enjoy x

ZB so sorry for you, really hope you get better news tomorrow.

Duggs how scary, glad one is hanging in there hope your holiday is just what you need.

Waves everyone else. x

Popping on to say hi to everyone.

Zeebee so sorry to hear that things aren't looking promising

duggs hope things do work out for you. At a loss as what to say.

AFM difficult week. FiL got admitted to hospital this week. Had a major bleed and has subsequently been diagnosed with a tumour - definitely malignant. Don't know what type yet till histology comes back so hoping prognosis is good, but waiting for results. Wish I wasn't a grown up sometimes. Just feels overwhelming on top of everything else.

Sorry for me, me, me.

Sorry not to name check.

Knackered so sorry to hear your nes

Knackered that's so rubbish. Its so hard to cope with just this, never mind anything extra.

How is everyone? Its been quiet on here, i think a lot of us have been licking our wounds a bit. ?

I had my first appointment with Mr S today - he definitely seems the most knowledgeable consultant i've seen so far, and its nice to discuss things with a fresh pair of eyes. He confirmed that all my results so far are normal which is good news and recommended some immune tests which i had done there and then. He didn't seem to think it was strange i had gone to see him (at the miscarriage clinic) when i haven't ever had a miscarriage which was reassuring. I'm going to start the 'super ovulation' programme (there's another thread on here on this isn't there, i might poke my nose in) whilst i wait for my next round of ivf, and depending on if the immune tests come back with anything i might take something for that too.

So...more question marks, and more possible treatment options. All fine i think, at least its doing something.

Anyways, how is everyone else doing, let us have your updates. Am thinking of Duggs and wish i was on a sun lounger too, though maybe without all the extra worry - hope you're ok if you read this.

ZB special hugs to you.
x x x

care I replied on super ov thread. You will be welcome on there. Mr s is reassuring and there are many success stories to his name. My bleeding seems to have tailed off today. Taking it easy in the sun. I hear it is bad weather at home. I am not out of the woods and have a long way to go. I keep talking with DH about options If this fails. Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with adoption routes?

Hi all
Sadly we haven't been successful this time - did another test today 12 dpo and bfn we've had a sh*t weekend so far

• had to tell friends and family today that it hadn't worked. Feeling numb and worried about it all now. DH cried a lot - I have not shed a tear - just have a lot of and very of anyone who doesn't have to go through all this to get PG. so going to take 2 months off and go again mid June I hope as we have 2 more frosties.... Then I hit 40...

Thanks so much for your moving messages Everyone - means so much to DH and I.
Z b x

ZB I shed a tear... ((Huge hugs))
Just wish there was something I could say to make you feel better. It's f**king tough having to conceive this way, but it makes it all the more special...
I'll happily be your cycle buddy in June if Tuesday goes pear-shaped for us x

Oooooooh just typed a long post and computer went wierd...........

Hi everyone - sorry not to have posted for a few days.

So sorry Zee this time - it is so devastating and to have to tell family etc that it hasn't worked - it is hard for folks to know just how awful you must be feeling - but know that plenty of us understand that - so come on here to talk if you can manage.........................it is really so unfair xxx

Thinking of you tooDuggs - must be nerve wracking - good that the bleeding settling though.

Knackered - what dreadful news about your FIL - why is it that major events come along together sometimes? - very, very, difficult for you .
Are they operating on him?

Glad you got on well with you appointment Care and that you have pushed along the referral Josie.

Hope you are okAngel - we are looking to you for some good news!!!!!

AFM felt lots better this weekend so finally started to sort out paper work and things in the house which I didn't have the energy for before. Had a nice day out in the sunshine today .Got a letter for the clinic and basically sounds as if they don't think my eggs weren't great as the embryos hadn't developed as well as they thought - although weirdly everything else was above average for my age. Have been reading a book called "Natural Solutions to Infertility" and am thinking I am really going to ramp up the healthy diet and supplements for the next 3-4 months and keep trying naturally - I think I need to feel stronger and healthier before jumping back into another round of treatment, quite apart from the cost. Still, I have had a fair bit of alcohol and chocolate past 10 days, so kind of over that now. At worst i'll be healthier and also DH - and at best.................???????

RIGHT THEN TEAM.....................................................I am now pinning on my team rosette and joining Jumping our leader; Care, Angel - are you with me too? - we need to rally the troops in this time of need and really shitty news over the past few days...................................................
WE gonna keep up the good fight.....take you whatever weapons you need troops - be it chocolate/dodgy TV/wine/throwing a pot at the wall.............................(no please not that last one - it makes a nasty dent)!

As I pin on my rosette,I hereby state officially to forego caffeine and alcohol/ to drink plenty water with lemon/to eat oily fish and my greens and to do it all with a smile and downing a supplement or two - until sometime hence....................date still to be agreed........and.witnessed by above parties.