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Evening gang.
It's all over and I survived - my appointment that is! Nearly had a little cry before hand but I stopped being a wimp and it all went ok. Consultant was happy with with the shape/size etc of my ovaries when he dildo cam'ed me. I've had the day '3' test today (even though I'm day 5 which he said didn't matter) and have to go back in two weeks for the day 20.

I have to be honest he showed me the ovaries and said 'ah yes, couple of follicles getting ready to get going' but I couldn't see what he was looking at even though he traced over it with his finger to point it out. I had some swabs taken although I can't remember what for. Because one of my earlier blood tests was a bit higher than they would expect he has said he suspects fibroids and possibly a touch of endo. I can't remember now what the explanation was but he seemed to think that because of another condition that I have that my tubes are likely to be blocked.

DH's sperm sample is apparently a shade under what they would consider normal (literally by 2 or 3%) so they are re-running that test again as it was over 3 months since he was tested.

So the upshot is I am now on the waiting list for a lap & dye which I will have by the end of April and if they find anything they will fix it there and then.

Very relieved I think but also anxious about the op and whether it will all worked but at least we have progress people!

Sorry for the me me me but I've been in such a state, I'm just pleased it's done.

josie everything you are feeling is completely normal and yes, I think we women are the strongest in the world! If we can get through all this we can get through anything :)

Welcome hippolyta hope your stay is a short one.

I definitely think the next thread needs to have a 'school lied to us about getting pregnant if a boy so much as looks at us' theme in the title Cazbg . We've all been a bit about what we were told at school, which was generally all useless and all lies!

That said, there was a 16 year old there with her dad and 17 year old emo boyfriend for their first scan while we were waiting. Not that I should judge but For FUCK SAKE.

x posts - thanks for thinking of me ratata, my mamouth post should tell you mostly everything!

Evening raspberry so pleased to know that the appointment went well and sounds really positive. Here's to progress!

All the best Josie and to Ratata with the cramps and quease.

And, yes, cazbg, boo to those sex ed lessons. Plus I was overly influenced in my teens by reading 1950s/60s novels about women getting pregnant accidentally & condemned to a life of oppressed kitchen drudgery (Margaret Drabble, and Lynn Reid Banks, "The L-Shaped Room" among others) Those women always seemed to get pregnant just by sharing a taxi.

Thank you all for the welcomes.

Glad your parents have other things to distract them [Ratate]. Sadly no such luck my end as would be first grand child!

Agree about sex-ed. Was very paranoid after that. Mind you, I suppose sensible from the young couple [Raspberry] saw today.

Hope my ovaries don't take too long to wake up after so long on the pill (16yrs!) - started on the pill early due to terrible period pains at school disrupting exams.

Morning . Just wanted to say fairly new to MN and struggling a bit with the emphasis and smileys so sorry if these go a bit wrong while getting the hang of it.

Also, feeling a bit nervous because I know I am a Newbie and don't know everyone very well. Also more of a Newbie to TTC.

If I am not giving very much advice for a while it is because I guess I don't feel very qualified for that yet and don't want to say something irratating like "it will be fine" as I know that drives me nuts!

As a bit of a "cover-all" I hope we will all have a happy ending and that everyone will cope with the circumstances they are in and that they have lots of lovely people around them for help and support.

So impressed with how lovely and supportive everyone is and inspiring to hear how strong other women are.

Feeling better now

Hello Hippolyta!

This place is indeed very supportive and there are days where I get home and think 'gaaaarrrggghhhhh I need to tell the frolickers'. It's not the same in RL, you just can't be as honest. For example, we can tell eachother far too much just as I am about to do.

I feel a little smug this morning. DH and I had a little sex drought after mid month of my last cycle, we've got to the point where sex feels like it's just to make a baby so a little stressful but after yesterday and the fact that we now know nothing is likely to happen until after the Lap & Dye we had some rather nice, short but sweet sex just for fun and intend to have lots more of it! I'm actually rather excited now!

Anyone else getting snow? We have, only light snow but it hasn't stopped all morning!

Thanks Raspberry.

I know what you mean about disclosing more than you would normally. Can't imagine ever meeting up with a group of ladies in the bar and straight away telling them the date I last saw AF!

Glad to hear you are having some fun at the moment anyway!

No snow here yet but desparately hoping it won't hit us for a while. I have to travel away with work today (heading east). Have no desire to spend the night on the Motorway. Planning to take plenty of and . (slowly getting there with the smileys .

Hey all, not had time to post for a while - partly due to concerted SWI effort (which unfortunately ran out of steam a day or two before my temp rise darnit...). Currently CD25 of average 30 day cycle, so playing the waiting game.

Wanted to send hugs to josie . This may or may not help, but try to stay in the present and take things one step at a time, don't let your brain carry you too far into scary possible futures. Do nice soothing things that keep your mind in the now. You can do it, and you will get through this.

Yay to raspberry for pressure-free SFF, and [waves] for everyone else (cos too much has gone on since I first joined the thread and I can't remember it all...)

I'm with you all on the 'school were scaremongering' thing. Guess I can see why they do it cos some buggers people do fall at the drop of the hat, but really it just sets you up be to miserable in later life when it doesn't happen straight away. I was a (happy) accident, and remember as a teenager thinking that my mum's explanation that 'I thought it took a long time, like a year or so...' was really stupid. Well ha, life showed me...

*to be

Hi all, Hope you're all enjoying the snow, I managed to get to & from work today in the snow so proud of myself! :)

Been trying to follow the threads as best I can. So lovely that everyone's so open. I'm struggling at the mo, have been on the dreaded period for 10 days now, which is so much longer than normal. Although I only came off the pill in August, could this be my 1st proper period? Is 10 days too long? its also frustrating as I wana get going with the baby making!

Hi everyone, feeling a bit more positive at the moment. One positive to come out of this so far is that I have discovered how not to care what other people think! It's always been a big problem for me but I feel like I've earned the right to not care, and to be selfish, so I am. Everyone who knows me knows the next 2 months are all about me, and I'm going to look after myself, even if it means letting other people down, and doing all the things I want to do, and lots of things for me and DH to chill out. I'm still scared and worried but I'm taking the very good advice of face one day at a time. So far, I'm dreading weds when I get my meds, but there's no point ruining Mon and Tues worrying so I'm putting it out of my mind till Wed

Hope everyone is ok

Completely agree Josie, sometimes in our life we have to put ourselves first. Hugs!

I haven't been on the pill so I can't advise re. the 10 day period I'm afraid pickle. It sounds like good news that you are having one, even if it is a long 'un. I would recommend temping if you aren't already, to help figure out where you are at and when you are ovulating.

Sounds like a good plan to me Josie. Good luck :)

Morning,
I'm not sure re period either picks sorry. 10 days seems long but if it's your first one it is probably your body getting back to normal. I'd probably pop to the doctors though just in case

Well done on the SWI pearl! Very impressed!

Josie, you are so right to concentrate on you and only you :) for the time being, I've kind of come to that conclusion myself too yesterday, it's all about me from now on and nothing else. Had a complete break down yesterday and cried badly for three hrs in the morning and on and off through the day, just feeling very scare of the unknown at the moment and don't know quite how to cope with it. Think I'll feel better once I've got my op date as I'll be able to focus on that but who knows, I may just get worse!Also consequently feel like a bag of shite today and have to go to work in a bit, desperatly feel like I need a holiday but apart from bank hols we've nothing booked until end July!

Evening everyone.

Josie, nothing wrong with putting yourself first sometimes. In any case, you have to be able to take care of yourself to look after those you care for. As you said, all real friends will understand this anyway.

Raspberry, so sorry to hear things are getting you down. You sounded so positive before the weekend. You right about the unknown being scary. Our imaginations are usually far worse than the real situation. Hope DH is giving you lots of hugs.

Pickle, I have friends who have had (perfectly normal) long periods before and no issues. Might just make you very tired if still heavy. I would think eating something with iron in (eg. redmeat), along with some Vit C (like a glass of orange juice) to help you absorb the iron might be a good idea.

Hello all, sorry you fell off my active threads list!

Had my Day 28 bloods taken yesterday. I think I have ovulated, on about Day 26, so fingers crossed for positive results tomorrow! God knows why I've ovulated a whole 12 days later than last cycle, but I'll chat with the nurses and see what they think.

Hi to all the newbies! I'm something of a permanent fixture around here

Morning Frolickers!

Thanks for the welcome cave :) Hope your results confirm OV and that the nurses have some idea why it was so late.

Sorry to hear that things are so hard raspberry. Hope you get your lap & dye date soon x

I'm in those difficult days near the end of the tww. ERTD due this weekend, when I'm visiting friends with a young baby. Hope my temp gives me advance warning so I can get over feeling sorry for myself!

Have a good day everyone x

Hello all,

I think I joined the thread briefly back in August when I stopped the pill (back when I believed I'd get pregnant in the first month, oh how we manically laugh now ). But having joined a bus/shuttle or two and letting it all get me down slightly, (and getting slightly irritated irrationally at people trying to conceive number 3 and being successful first time?! ) I think this seems like a better thread, so please can I come back!

I went on the pill in my late teens for painful periods and apart from a year break in 2005 had been on it for nearly 16yrs when I stopped at the start of August... and yet I still wonder why my ovaries are so confused !
I've had 4 long (40-45 day) cycles with very light AF in-between and really nothing useful in the way of EWCM or symptoms to make me think that anything is happening so have convinced myself they're anovulatory (something I'd never heard of in the days pre-mumsnet...oh those innocent ignorant days )
So, to find out, I've booked a private gynae appointment for next week when I'll be mid-cycle (I'm dreaming of seeing black and white dots on a screen and someone telling me its an ovary with follicles... we all have different hopes and dreams )
In the meantime, we're having alternate day sex just in case I'm a hypochondriac and am actually ovulating and I've got some OPK's off the internet which I guess I should start trying in the next few days..(I don't really understand the instructions )
So after that ridiculously long introduction, that's my story, hello!

Hi and welcome MrsM :)
What you have described is exactly why I wanted to join this thread too. With regards to establishing that you have ovulated, I would recommend recording your basal body temp as well as OPKs. I've only started doing it this month (cycle 7), and already it has shown me that this month I ov'd about 3 days after getting a positive on my internet cheapy OPK - before I had assumed that it would be 1-2 days after. Am not regimentally timing sex or anything, but I'm hoping it will help now that I'm aware I'm ovulating around day 18 rather than day 14.

Oh forgot to add - hope the gynae appt goes well and puts your mind at rest. I did one of those internet female fertility checks recently. It checks for raised FSH, and whilst this is only one of a myriad of things that could be wrong, it did cheer me up when it was negative (if had been +ve would have used it as a reason to demand early GP appt). Home sperm analysis kit is next on the agenda if this cycle is unsuccessful!!

Hey all im not new here but was rumbled by RL and had to name change.... now have to tell sis im ttc as i know she is on here and if her friend guessed it was me she most probably has also.
Ill have to tell her over fb which is crap as i cant afford to ring her (different countries no landline)
how the flip do i open that convo???
Hi all newbies and oldie newbies i hope this thread does what it does for me and helps you and makes you smile :)

Thanks PearlFisher I've got the FSH kit, but it arrived a bit late this cycle to use, I'm fully signed up for obsessive internet-ttc-ness (although the home sperm kit is new to me, poor DH )
I'm keen to do the basal body temp thing, but am in the southern hemisphere summer (which is very nice!), but does mean that the ambient temperature is anything from 17-28 degrees in our bedroom overnight, we use a fan and I'm just not sure how reliable the readings would be?!? Any ideas? Being overseas is also how I have the luxury of work paid health insurance and can go to gynae by making a phone call without having to go down the NHS referral system, I'm very lucky.
amazeballs can you do Skype? it keeps us sane and in touch with family and friends? But Facebook chat is also great if you can type at speed. Is it likely to be a big surprise for your sister?

She isn't skype friendly iv tried loads of times and it just doesn't work. i sent her a msg so when she replies i shall tell her. Didnt really want to tell family untill i was pg oh well has to be done. id hate her to find out from someone else

Testing in 4 days if af doesn't show before then.

Just out of curiosity how old are all you first time frolickers?

I told my sil wnen we were visiting her over christmas that we were starting to ttc. Now I don't have to tell her over facebook or skype. Poor dh does not know I told her though so it's our little secret!

mrsmellow I don't think climate will affect basal body temp. The key point is that you are looking for an average taken over a whole cycle, not individual changes. Providing you take it on waking (you need to have been resting for at least 3 hours before taking it) you'll be fine.

I temp as a matter of course, but do remember that it can't tell you that you are about to ovulate, it can only tell you that you have. The temperature rise occurs after ovulation so by the time you notice (you need 3 days of an above average reading for it to be confirmed) it's too late to do anything about it.