TTC/ pregnancy on Prednisolone or similar part 3

[freelancegirl]

For those who are TTC/pregnant undergoing immunotherapy treatment. Current list as it stands, do feel free to come and join us, it's moving quickly round here!:

Tuesday 22nd November

TTC
Waiting to test
Snoopygirl - V High NKC TTC, will be Ist try with Pred, Intralipids on bfp Testing from 21/11
Havingkittens - Upgraded from High to V High NKC TTC #1 after 2 month break/testing 29 Nov -2 Dec depending on my resolve.
Waiting to ovulate
coleyoz - V High NKC. TTC #2 - ov 3 Dec (Pred and Intralipids at BFP)
duggs1976 - High/V High NKC - TTC #1 - Superovulation cycle1
batteryhen - High activation NKC, factor v leiden. TTC#1
Suemays - V High NKC TTC/ov 30th Oct. TTC#2.
Cherrycheeks - V high NKC, TTC#2/ ov 25th-26th Nov/ 4th cycle of pred
pureequeen - High NKC TTC #2 again from November (BFP cycle one but mc)
eurochick - TTC#1 awaiting first appointment (in Nov)/ov expected 28-30 Nov.
BFPSeeker

BFP
2nd Trimester
Stogan - V high NKC - BFP 9/7/11 cycle#2- 24+3 Due 10/03/12 next scan 30/12
Digitalgirl - High NKC - BFP cycle#2 -19+1 Due 16/04/12 anomaly scan 23/11
Coconutfeet - V High NKC, Factor II gene mutation, underactive thyroid - BFP pre-pred, started at 6 weeks ? 16+1 next scan 14/12
Comedy - V High NKC - BFP cycle#2 - 13+3 due 26/5/12 next scan 12/12
Iggi - High NKC & Hypothyroidism - BFP cycle#2 - 12+6 anomaly scan Jan

1st Trimester
BrownieGecko - High NKC, Hypothyroidism, & Glucose Intolerant. BFP on cycle 3 of Clomid - 11+4 next scan 28/11
Scooterchaser - V High NKC - BFP cycle1 - 8+1 Due 01/07/12. Scan 25/11
Freelance - V High NKC TTC#1 Hydroxchloroquine, Pred, Intralipids. Thyroid/hashimotos. MC 1st cycle. LMP18/10 - 4+6 - Scan 3/12
Arianhod - V High NKC, MTHFR homo, hypothyroid, TTC#2 BFP 2nd pred cycle LMP19/10. 4+5 Scan 7/12
Cheerfulcharlie - V High NKC, MTHFR/TTC 1/ (metformin, intralipids, no pred). LMP17/10(Ov'd 3rd Nov) 4+5 Scan 6/12.
ChoccyPud - V High NKC / TTC #1 BFP 4th Pred cycle LMP20/10 4+4. Scan 3/12.

Iggi is it brown or red as I know red is new blood and brown is old? It is common to spot in pregnancy so try not to get too worried. If it's brown it could be bits that are still left behind. My midwife told me in my first pregnancy not to use dopplers as it can make you paranoid if you dont find a heartbeat. Its really common not to find one or to lose one suddenly. I know that babies dont like them either so move away from them once you use them.

Digi what is the chinese egg hatching potion as I have never heard of it??? If it helps I wouldn't mind trying it so thanks for offering.

Snoopy you still could be pregnant as it's early days yet, so don't give up hope. It still might be too early to test. I also had preg symptoms in my 2ww on the steroids which gave me false hope - had sore boobs, heartburn, tiredness and nausea (dont ever get any of them normally).

Free you should get it checked out as might have picked up an infection if your wee is a funny colour. Have you been drinking enough fluid? The steroids can make your wee smell apparently so maybe it can make it cloudy too?

We didnt meet up yesterday due to my cold - I think that is what has affected my OV this month. According to fertiltyfriend I ov'd on Wed but neither the CBFM or OPKs have picked up positives! I am calling Louise tomorrow to see what she recommends regarding taking the steroids. I think I had some EWCM on wed but it could have been 'left overs' from SWI the night before (sorry TMI!)

Hi Iggi - So sorry to hear this is happening. I think to give you peace of mind you should definitely call the midwife/hospital tomorrow morning to see if they can offer you another scan maybe. Try not to panic, from what I have been reading around 13 weeks there is lots moving around so maybe it is some old blood being shifted. Thinking of you

Snoopy so sorry to hear it is a BFN this month. Stay strong and don't be disheartened.

Free my wee was cloudy early on and then cleared up. I didn't have an infection so maybe it was the streroids. Still worth checking though. It is so difficult to not symptom check. I still press my boobs every morning in the hope they hurt and also feel relief when I get twinges and feel sick.

I have still managed to persuade myself that things are wrong and tomorrow's scan is going to be awful, it is impossible for us to feel any differently until told otherwise. I couldn't even bring myself to buy maternity clothes this week, I went in the shop and the lady was all smiley and chatty saying in a loud voice "Congratulations, you must be so excited". So I picked up a maternity band, didn't try anything on and left like speedy Gonzales :)

Have a good evening everyone, planning to sit by roaring fire, snuggle up with duvet and watch mindless TV so we can try and stop stressing about tomorrow. x

Hello, thank you for the good wishes. Had to wait till got home from in-laws, but then rushed back to the doppler. I heard something still not entirely convinced it was the hb but am pretty sure it was the same sound I'd heard on Friday, iyswim (not worried if I just couldn't hear anything on doppler, but worried that what I had heard had gone away). PLUS, I had a bm (love the stuff I get to tell you guys!) recently and there was another bit of blood, def from the "back entrance" so maybe was earlier too?
It's in the nature of this journey we are on that we have to go through about a million potential (or real) disasters along the way.
So glad I can post here about it, couldn't even tell dh about the blood as he'd freak out worse than me.

snoopy - sorry it's a bfn this time, take a couple of days to be miserable, then get focused on the next OV xx I really hate testing just to get a bfn, it's crap.
iggi How are you today? I agree with what the others say - don't stress about the hb, chances are baby is just shy! xx
brownie Good luck with your scan tomorrow, i am sure it will be good news xx

Well I have ovulated yesterday so I am now officially on the 2ww. Which I hate - 2 weeks full of hope only to be shot down at the end of it.

Big waves to everyone else xx will up date the list now xx

TTC
Waiting to test:

Havingkittens - Upgraded from High to V High NKC TTC #1 after 2 month break/testing 29 Nov -2 Dec depending on my resolve.
duggs1976 - High/V High NKC - TTC #1 - Superovulation cycle1 test 4 dec
Cherrycheeks - V high NKC, TTC#2/ ov 25th-26th Nov 4th cycle of predbatteryhen - High activation NKC, factor v leiden. TTC#1 Test 10 Dec

Waiting to ovulate:
coleyoz - V High NKC. TTC #2 - ov 3 Dec (Pred and Intralipids at BFP)
Suemays - V High NKC TTC#2.
eurochick - TTC#1 Awaiting NKC results/ov 28-30 Nov.
pureequeen - High NKC TTC #2 again from January (BFP cycle one but mc)
Hopefulfor2nd - High NKC TTC in New Year
BFPSeeker -
Snoopygirl - V High NKC TTC, #2, ov 10th Dec ish

BFP
2nd Trimester
Stogan - V high NKC - BFP 9/7/11 cycle#2- 25+0 Due 10/03/12 next scan 30/12
Digitalgirl - High NKC - BFP cycle#2 -19+5 Due 16/04/12
Coconutfeet - V High NKC, Factor II gene mutation, underactive thyroid - BFP pre-pred, started at 6 weeks ? 16+5 next scan 14/12
Comedy - V High NKC - BFP cycle#2 - 14+0 due 26/5/12 next scan 12/12
Iggi - High NKC & Hypothyroidism - BFP cycle#2 - 13+3 anomaly scan Jan

1st Trimester
BrownieGecko - High NKC, Hypothyroidism, & Glucose Intolerant. BFP on cycle 3 of Clomid - 12+2 next scan 28/11
Scooterchaser - V High NKC - BFP cycle1 - 9+0 Due 01/07/12. Scan 8/12
Freelance - V High NKC TTC#1 Hydroxchloroquine, Pred, Intralipids. Thyroid/hashimotos. MC 1st cycle. LMP18/10 - 5+5 - Scan 3/12
Arianhod - V High NKC, MTHFR homo, hypothyroid, TTC#2 BFP 2nd pred cycle LMP19/10. 5+3 Scan 7/12
Cheerfulcharlie - V High NKC, MTHFR/TTC 1/ (metformin, intralipids, no pred). LMP17/10(Ov'd 3rd Nov) 5+3 Scan 6/12.
ChoccyPud - V High NKC / TTC #1 BFP 4th Pred cycle LMP20/10 5+1 Scan 3/12

Oh - can pg ladies check the list - I haven't moved anyone on, so may need to be altered x

Iggi ? Sorry to hear you?re going through this. It sounds like you?ve got piles and they?re bleeding (bitter experience emoticon). I think it would be worth trying to get a scan tomorrow to reassure you. The others are right ? using the doppler can be tricky this early on if the baby isn?t in the right place. I feel for you.

Sorry to hear about the BFN Snoopy. Hope you?ve been doing something nice to take your mind off it. Hopefully you?ll be able to have a relaxed Christmas (and a few drinks!) before a fresh start in the new year. Like Digi ? I drank quite a lot in my bfp cycle. We were on holiday and I was having several glasses of wine a day and got the bfp the day after we arrived home.

Brownie ? Good luck tomorrow!!

Well flat is going on the market tomorrow so we await the deluge of offers (). I spent the morning clearing the garden/weeding and now have a really achy bum and can?t bend over properly. Feeling a bit panicky that we won?t get a buyer or find something that we like and we?ll still be stuck in a one-bedroom place with 2 kids?.

The decluttering continues...
Free to a good home: Two unopened packs of pregnacare conception and a single Boots pregnancy test (from a pack of two).

iggi glad u picked up something on the Doppler again and the spotting seems to have an explanation. The fear can take hold so quickly can't it and can turn a day into a nightmare. Know the feeling so well. I hope you are feeling a bit more relaxed now and that you will be able to talk to a midwife about it tomorrow to reassure you.

brownie rooting for you for a good scan tomorrow! Hope you're having a lovely snuggly evening and keeping distracted, pre-scan jitters are no fun!

snoopy sorry for the BFN, have a few drinks and some fabulous runny cheese or maybe a whole bowl of cake mixture and a delicious big full caffeine hitting coffee and give yourself a break from all thoughts pred/preg for a couple of weeks. Sounds like a bit of indulgence is good at bringing on the BFPs.

coconut with all the work you've been doing you're bound to be inundated with offers on your flat. Stand by!

free and stogan you mentioned s with no i. I have been wanting to ask about this for ages but kept chickening out - is there an official stance on this for early weeks? We carried on as normal to start with, but I started freaking out at 6 weeks and stopped since then. DH home tomorow after about 2wks apart so I think the issue may arise (pardon the pun). Just hoping someone had been told by someone official either it's fine and healthy and can't possibly affect anything or that recurrent buns like ourselves should avoid maybe until 12 weeks just in case?? I have heard both schools of thought but just wanted to check what others have been told by their various GPs, MW's etc? Anyone asked Dr S?

Brownie good luck for the scan tomorrow, I bet everything is OK!

Scooter I know in my first pregnancy that the docs said it was fine so long as it wasn't too rigorous! I had to laugh when she said that. If you have any spotting afterwards then stop and don't try again. I personally avoided it until after 12 weeks as I knew I would blame myself if anything went wrong. You can still 'pleasure' DH in other ways! Cant believe I am telling a complete stranger that!

Coconut good luck on the flat, it wont really be a problem with the 2 kids with one being a baby as they will be in your room anyway so dont stress too much yet. Friends of ours were in the same situation so rented their one bed flat and then rented out a bigger place for them so that could be an option?

Iggi good luck with the midwife tomorrow.

Waves to everyone else!

Morning girls, just wanted to wish everyone a nice week, good luck with scans and appts. Etc

I'm at the midwife at 10 to see about these blooming itchy feet and my suspected carpal tunnel syndrome ( nothings ever easy with me ha ha )

Dreading work today, now that I've only got 4 weeks left ud think it would be easier but it's getting harder and harder to force myself into the place, my attitude is terrible xx

Don't believe it, made it to 9 weeks and woke up to bleeding, it's red. Feeling terrified and don't know what to do now.

scooter am a lurker here. Can you contact your GP and be seen by EPAU. It does not mean it is over, I know lots of people who have bleed in their pregnancy and gone on to have a healthy baby. The colour does not matter, in my cases it has been brown and not red. I know it is hard to believe it is not a miscarriage when we have been through so much. My fingers are crossed for you. Will be on here a little longer if you are about. A big hug to you.

Oh Scooter, how scary for you but it doesn't have to mean what you're thinking.. Did it happen when you went to the loo? Is there somewhere locally to contact for reassurance, eg an EPU?
Any pain?

Waiting for a call from EPU. It just happened when I woke up and more darker red since I walked to the doctor this morning. I have mild cramping too, can't see how this will turn out well.

Morning ladies .. my we've been busy over the weekend!

scooter so sorry you're having a scare but as iggi says it doesn't have to mean anything bad. Get yourself to your EPU straightaway, if you have red bleeding they should see you straightaway. Virtual hugs and hope everything's ok.

lemonsherbet welcome and come on in, delurk if you feel like it and tell us a little about yourself?

brownie lots of good luck for your scan today!

iggi well I missed the conversations over the weekend so you already know all the answers :) but I've read many many people saying don't even bother to try using a doppler before at least 16 weeks as it's very hit and miss even then. The fact that you've picked anything up is pretty amazing, but don't panic at this stage if you can't hear anything.

free I'm sure you've sorted your problemette by now but just in case it helps, I've read that steroids can trigger UTIs. I'm horribly prone to these myself, and read up a lot on what can cause them over the past couple of years. A simple test at your GP will find the cause, and then treatment is very straightforward.

snoopy sorry for the BFN but as the others have said, at least you can relax and enjoy yourself without the worry about "what if I'm pregnant" ... it's a good time of year not to have that particular stress, I think! :) A New Year pregnancy has a good vibe to it, too :)

choccy how are you doing now?

/waves to everyone, here's to a happy and stress-free week!

Arian I have been on here a little bit. I am waiting for my first appointment with MrS. I am due to see him at the end of this week. I have had mmc at 8weeks, mmc at 20 week and "natural" miscarriage at 6 weeks. Got told by my GP that a RMC would not do anything in addition to what was done with the 20 week loss. Since all the tests came back normal at that stage and I got started on aspirin for the next pregnancy, just in case. I felt that time was going against me and I needed to see someone who was an expert. I came on the board at that stage to ask what people thought of Mr S and the reviews from the board was good. Just spent the past month waiting to see him and am desperately hoping he can help. Keep being told it is just bad luck/my age. Although I am 35 I do not think my eggs can be that bad. Hopefully I will be able to join your list soon

Sorry for the long rant. scooter still thinking of you. Hope that EPAU can see you quickly.

Thanks for your messages all. It's funny when I conceived son I was in France stuffing face with wine cheese etc. It def must be to do with being bit more chilled out. Well good month coming up as off to Florida for Christmas on Dec 14th so can't wait and something to look forward to apart from manically poas.

scooter praying all ok for you .x

lemonsherbert nice to hear from you again. Dr S didn't even mention my age (42) once which was a change. He is very positive and makes you feel good about having a definite plan for once. Good luck with your appointment let us know how it goes. x

Snoopy when I conceived this time I'd just had a hot stone massage (a birthday gift) around the time of ovulation, so was much more relaxed than I normally am!

Ahh lemonsherbert do you know, I thought I recognised your nickname but couldn't place it :) I blame in on pred-fuddled brain, sorry! So sorry to hear of your losses, and honestly, the "age" thing never raised its head when I saw Mr S - or rather, I raised it, he dismissed it. He said as long as you're still conceiving (which you clearly are too), then it's not necessarily an issue. I asked him to tell me straight, is it actually worth my pursuing this given my age?, and he was emphatic in his recommendation that I should. So that's good enough for me! I hope you find some answers, that you can then have a plan to address. It's the not knowing what's causing it all that I found the worst thing.

iggi a hot stone massage sounds wonderful, I've not heard of that. Hmm wonder if I can ask Santa for one?!

Girls, can I just ask you all, has pred made anyone else feel dizzy/shaky? I'm finding I get a major attack of the shakes daily, usually for several hours; eating sometimes helps, sometimes doesn't. I thought if pred affected blood sugar it was to put it up, not down - am I wrong? I did have a mild case of this on the low-dose pred for the first cycle, second one I didn't have it, but since being on the high-dose pred the past 4 or 5 days I've been getting a real attack of the shakes every day. It's not funny, but I'm not sure what to do about it?

scooter thinking of you. Really really hope it's nothing to worry about.

lemonsherbet hello again . I remember the NHS said something similar to me about getting my ovarian reserve tested after all the other tests came back clear (I was 32 at the time). Mentioned this to Mr S in my first appt with him and he waved it off saying it was a waste of time. Is your appointment with him coming up soon?

iggi how are you today?

Today's list:

Monday 28th November
TTC
Waiting to test

Havingkittens - Upgraded from High to V High NKC TTC #1 after 2 month break/testing 29 Nov -2 Dec depending on my resolve.
duggs1976 - High/V High NKC - TTC #1 - Superovulation cycle1 test 4 dec
Cherrycheeks - V high NKC, TTC#2/ ov 25th-26th Nov 4th cycle of pred
batteryhen - High activation NKC, factor v leiden. TTC#1 Test 10 Dec

Waiting to ovulate
coleyoz - V High NKC. TTC #2 - ov 3 Dec (Pred and Intralipids at BFP)
Suemays - V High NKC TTC#2.
eurochick - TTC#1 Awaiting NKC results/ov 28-30 Nov.
pureequeen - High NKC TTC #2 again from January (BFP cycle one but mc)
Hopefulfor2nd - High NKC TTC in New Year
BFPSeeker -
Snoopygirl - V High NKC TTC, #2, ov 10th Dec ish

BFP
2nd Trimester
Stogan - V high NKC - BFP 9/7/11 cycle#2- 25+2 Due 10/03/12 next scan 30/12
Digitalgirl - High NKC - BFP cycle#2 20+0 Due 16/04/12
Coconutfeet - V High NKC, Factor II gene mutation, underactive thyroid - BFP pre-pred, started at 6 weeks ? 17+0 next scan 14/12
Comedy - V High NKC - BFP cycle#2 - 14+2 due 26/5/12 next scan 12/12
Iggi - High NKC & Hypothyroidism - BFP cycle#2 - 13+5 anomaly scan Jan

1st Trimester
BrownieGecko - High NKC, Hypothyroidism, & Glucose Intolerant. BFP on cycle 3 of Clomid - 12+4 next scan 28/11
Scooterchaser - V High NKC - BFP cycle1 - 9+2 Due 01/07/12. Scan 8/12
Freelance - V High NKC TTC#1 Hydroxchloroquine, Pred, Intralipids. Thyroid/hashimotos. MC 1st cycle. LMP18/10 - 6+0 - Scan 3/12
Arianhod - V High NKC, MTHFR homo, hypothyroid, TTC#2 BFP 2nd pred cycle LMP19/10. 5+5 Scan 7/12
Cheerfulcharlie - V High NKC, MTHFR/TTC 1/ (metformin, intralipids, no pred). LMP17/10(Ov'd 3rd Nov) 5+5 Scan 6/12.
ChoccyPud - V High NKC / TTC #1 BFP 4th Pred cycle LMP20/10 5+3 Scan 3/12

ari I had a week of dizziness/treacle head at about 5-6 weeks. It's one of my usual early PG symptoms (not that I had many at all). Think its the hormones. But if you're getting attack of the shakes that sounds a bit more serious...can get to your GP's surgery and have your BP taken? Def send an email to Louise and ask her opinion.

Hi all. Scooter sorry to hear that. Get yourself to the EPU. I know it's horribly scary and I'm a fine one I say try not to worry but the sooner you can take a look the sooner you can find out as much as is possible re whats going on.

Thanks for asking Ari... Clean so far today :) I'd like to keep up with two cyclogest a day until I see Dr S on Sat, but as I think it's better to use rear entrance during the day when I'm moving around, certain other things need to, um, move before I can do the cyclogest. And quite simply there's been no action since Sat am. Sorry for tmi but hey who else is going to sympathise?! Do you all find it just all seems to fall back out if you go front bottom? Maybe I'm doing it wrong!!

Will review at lunchtime. The things we do to ourselves...

Good luck for scans today.

Ari just read your latest post. Could be high bp. Have you been having caff coffee? It sent me shaky last week so I've cut it out.

I'm getting headaches late pm and lots of heartburn if I don't keep grazing.

Thanks girls, but I have borderline low blood pressure, not high, and that doesn't appear to have changed (had it taken late last week). I think I will do what you suggest digi and drop Louise a line. I drink rooibos tea most of the time which has no caffeine, so it can't be that either.

choccy much as I hate the stuff, I recommend prune juice for the lack of action :) I haven't used the visitor's entrance I'm afraid, so can't comment on that one, no doubt others will!

digi just noticed you hit 20 weeks ... that's a fabulous milestone! :)

Hahahaha Just had to share this with you all ... did a quick Dr Google on possible side effects of pred (again, again) and came across this - truncated, but look at the last one:

What side effects can this medication cause?
Prednisone may cause side effects. Tell your doctor if any of these symptoms are severe or do not go away:

headache

dizziness

difficulty falling asleep or staying asleep

inappropriate happiness

"Inappropriate happiness"??? ROFL!