TTC for 10+ months, part 4

[eurochick]

Time for a new thread as the other one is just about full.

Fingers crossed for lots of patiently-awaited BFPs on this one!

ladygee You're very close to me then, hmmm

Still no call from MFS, it seems weird hoping another woman whom I have never met will start her period

AF symptoms seem to have died down a bit today, and no sign of it.

Random thought for the day, last night I dreamt about a famous footballer attacking me in my sleep and I had to fight him off with a bottle of ketchup

Fatima! . Was it a particularly nice footballer?!

Sorry about putting you off your dinner euro! I'm now catching up on OBEM and it does appear that the answer to a smooth easy labour is a slinky red bikini birthing outfit!

the link between progesterone and boob pain is confusing. My acupuncturist told me it was a great sign that I had boob pain because it meant I was producing progesterone (euro i think we go to the same place). However, in the instructions for the progesterone suppositories I was put on (cyclogest) , it said it was to relieve breast pain. And indeed, when I went on them, my pain subsided. This man yesterday whipped out a book on the menopause - yes imagaine my horror, he even told me to buy it! - but it had all this information about estrogen dominance and how it causes breast pain, coldness, foggy brain, hypoglycaemia. In fact whilst I was on the gonal F drugs my breasts were agony and I didn't ovulate - my gynae said that was because of all the estrogen i was producing. So breast pain in that instance had nothing to do with progesterone, it was all to do with too much estrogen.

Sorry for the essay but it is slightly confusing as why would they make you take progesterone for breast pain if it is suppose to be a symptom of progesterone production? And then mrsd doesn't get breast pain when she doesn't ovulate...???Any thoughts anyone?

farfalla - that was exactly what I said to him! I said I shouldn't be taking it before ovulation . But he told me that we aren't trying for the next few months and a woman produces progesterone throughout her whole cycle (he showed me some graph) so he is trying to get the balance back between progesterone and estrogen by giving my system a boost of more progesterone before ovulation. ???

Everything else he said about diet seems very sensible for my body as i get the most awful weak trembles nearly every day. He told me by changing my diet, i wouldn't be going to the loo in the middle of the night or be up at 3am with my brain whirring - it's exactly what happens , yet I never told him this.

kitty - just saw that fucking sterilisation thread! FFS!!

ladygee - can't believe how close you are now as well.

pout - are you getting married this week or am I confused??

Watching The Parent Trap, how sweet Lyndsey Lohan use to be

No, it was Ashley Cole

Oh fatima I skim-read your post earlier and in my brain filled in the gaps that it was some kind of sexy-footballer dream. I have just re-read, and see that actually it was quite the opposite and therefore my comment was rather inappropriate . I will try to read more thoroughly in future so as to avoid saying the wrong thing. Ugh to Ashley Cole though.

euro I will look into the insulin a bit more. Unfortunately I love all things sugary and refined, and hate wholemeal anything. In general I have a good diet - homecooked, varied, plenty of fruit and veg etc. I don't eat heaps of white bread, but I do live on pasta. And I'd eat cake every day of the week if I could.

joycep I loved the Parent Trap :). I've also had a hankering for a vineyard in Napa Valley ever since I saw it, though I suspect this may happen in my dreams only, unfortunately.

I don't get boob pain generally so haven't really looked into what it might mean/causes etc, so I'm confused by your post, but that's my lack of background knowledge! In some ways, despite having been at this for 18 months now, I still feel totally clueless in so many ways. In fact I keep wondering if there is something fundamental that I am doing/not doing and that's why it's not working. I mean, what if we are having sex WRONG or something . I'm not taking/using any contraception, and we are having actual proper sex. Since when did I have to know anything else about it :(

That said, this month I've gone back to my Just Shagging roots. I have no idea when I ovulated, or if I even have. We've had sex, but not paid much attention to when. I have no idea if I'm now post ovulation, no idea when to expect ERTD, and for once it's quite nice.

Wow - just realised it's midnight and my alarm goes off in 6 hours. I should perhaps go to bed! I hadn't noticed as picked OH up from the train at 10 (From the office) and he is still working now :( No wonder we haven't had much sex this month!

Goggling reveals that 50-70% of women suffer with premenstrual breast pain so it can't mean infertility. And thinking about it, quite a few friends have said they get it and they are all super fertile so I don't think it's anything to worry about. I know that mine don't hurt when I don't ovulate so I know for me it's a sign that something is going on, one theory is that some people are sensitive to the change in hormones (so not actually the progesterone itself but the change of dominance of one over the other). This might explain how the cream helps, by gradually building it up. But who knows? I suppose it's not an area where there is much research so people don't really have a clue if it's good or bad. But it's so common I can't think it is a sign of anything really terrible to stop pregnancy.

Wow have missed so much, it really does move fast on here! Actually have been quite productive over the last few days and have caught up on some jobs I have been avoiding and also got my craft stuff out and for the first time in ages actually enjoyed doing something rather than just obsessing about not being pregnant

That calculator sounds scary and I will not look

wine I hope that you are okay. Some pregnancy announcements really knock you for six don't they. I'm still smarting over the one I found out about well before Xmas.

Joycep your bone cracking man sounds interesting though the boob thing is worrying. Estrogen dominance is equally uh oh! My new worry is menopause (or peri menopause is it?) My increasingly heavier periods make me think of my mother who had to have a hysterectomy in her late thirties.
I will be interested to watch how you get on with your recommended diet - you can be the guinea pig!
Like you nelly I hate wholemeal and live on pasta and like you say I don't think that we have a bad diet, it's quite Mediterrranean on the whole those chocolate brownies in the tin are especially Mediterranean I must admit that when I was on the low GI diet it was the wholemeal that was the killer. Makes me think of Gillian McKeith who always declared, in her irritating voice, how white bread "was like glue in your insides"

joycep we're not getting married until the first week in Feb so a while yet which is fortunate because I am now having dress dilemmas and having to look for a new one because my mother has bought a dress that is identical to mine except a different colour Am seething beyond belief.

I keep catching adverts for OBEM and heard something about a "birthing outfit". What the dickens is that? My idea of a birthing outfit would be a wetsuit with a little chute sewn into the leg.
Placenta smoothie - mind you if it boosted my fertility.........

Fatima fighting dreams equal stress don't they?? I get them sometimes, though not generally footballers it's usually my mother I also get the falling down stairs dreams or the hanging on at the top of the stairs trying to get my leg over the last few top steps

mrsd I have read a bit about boob pain and PMT whilst trying to work out why I get one sore boob and also read that it is common, the boob pain, not the one boob thing! Something else to throw into the mix is fibrocystic breasts. I was diagnosed with this a while ago when I found a lump (in fact when I had the mamogram and ultrasound the doctor asked if I was pregnant because it can mimic pregnant breasts - helpfully when TTC!). Apparently the hormones before AF can cause pain and lumpy boobs which disappear when AF arrives.

Sorry I haven't namechecked but it would take a while! Waves to everyone and a special hello to lemons. Have missed you on here

Nelly being a sugar and carb lover is pretty typical of insulin resistence, I am afraid. I was too for years. Someone once explained it to me like this: you eat something sugary/carby, which makes your body produce lots of insulin, which sends your blood sugar through the floor, which makes you crave sugar/carbs, so you eat them and the whole cycle starts again. She drew a line which looked a bit like a rollercoaster, swooping up and down across the page, representing my blood sugar. She said that if you carry on like this, your pancreas eventually gives up from overwork and you end up with diabetes. What you should aim for instead is small fluctuations, so you eat wholewheat carbs and protein, your body produces less insulin and doesn't crash your blood sugar so you crave sugar/carbs. The line she drew for this had smaller peaks and troughs like: ~~~~~~~~~~

I'm a bit evangelical about this because discovering it made me feel sooooo much better.

I haven't caught up with this week's OBEM yet but I heard about the easy water birth. I will try to watch it tonight.

pout I cannot believe your mother! How could she do that?

I am in disbelief too Euro especially since I have worn my dress before in her company and she gushed over how nice it was. The fact that she even went to the same shop as I got mine to get hers makes me think it can't have been some unfortunate accident I don't think there would be any malice in it just the usual "pout won't mind" mentality that she has. Still am very pissed off and can't believe that I am having to buy a new one.

Can't you just tell her "no" or is she just to fragile at the moment?

Oh pout :( Bloody hell, she really isn't making your life easy. But sell the old one on ebay and don't tell your mum that you've bought a new one

Euro what you say is interesting, albeit there is quite a big part of me wants to ignore it! I'm not sure I'm on a sugar rollercoaster though. I only get dizzy a couple of times a month at absolute most, and it is always always when I have been super-busy and not eaten all day. As I have low BMI, I guess I might be more prone to this - ie I use up my food very fast? I definitely have more of a sweet tooth than savoury, but I don't live off carbs and sugar. For instance today I have eaten homemade cereal bar (ingredients are organic porridge oats, cranberries, sunflower seeds, pumkin seeds and coconut, bound with condensed milk which is sweet, yes, but in low quantities). And then I've had two bits of toast, which is wholemeal seeded. I'll probably have leftover chicken thighs for lunch etc etc. One of my favourite snacks is a very unhealthy plastic white bread toasted lightly, drowned in golden syrup. But I only crave it every so often - I ate it a couple of weeks ago, but hadn't for months before that. Interestingly though, my period tracker app allows you to plug in various moods and symptoms, and cravings for both sweet and salty are in there. I've never paid much attention to it before, and to be honest I wouldn't say I have sugary cravings that are worth noting even as regularly as monthly.

I appreciate I may sound a little defensive . I'm genuinely interested, but have a sneaking feeling that my insulin was tested as part of my day 3 bloods? Not 100% sure of this though, I will ask the doc if I ever persuade OH to come back to the surgery with me. It's also a little tiring, isn't it, analysing every single little thing. Sometimes, I'd just like to know, for an absolute fact, that something I feel/eat/do is completely unrelated to TTC, and Just Is. .

All that said, of course I'm now off to hit google and see what it tells me. But frankly, no baby is worth eating wholemeal pasta for. . I say this even though in reality I would also eat my own placenta if it guaranteed a baby

Waves to other lovely ladies.

I did intend to tell her she couldn't wear the dress but on reflection Euro I just can't be arsed to deal with the inevitable "poor me, I am so useless sob, sob" conversation that would ensue if I tackled her about it. I already have to tackle the whole you can only attend the wedding if you are totally dry and you can't stay at MIL's house' thing.....am rapidly going off the whole wedding idea!!!

nelly Think you are right and have already decided that I'm not going to mention a new dress. If she asks why I'm not wearing the original I may have to tell her why However if I can't find a new one that I love, I will have to tell her that hers is a no, no.
Oh someone beam me up please

pout you are taking a very balanced view of this. Credit to you.

Nelly my OH draws the line at wholewheat pasta, but we do have brown bread and rice most of the time. I don't mind the pasta but he can't stand it.

My insulin always comes back as normal too. I think you need a fasting glucose test to diagnose insulin resistance (I have never had one as it's something you usually have to push for and I cannot be bothered as it would only tell me what I already know).

I know what you mean about analysing everything. I think all of us are looking for the one thing that would tip the balance for us. I find the insulin thing interesting, because it is a hormone and interracts with other hormones and of course hormone balance is important for us ttcers. Low GI features on just about every fertility diet I have seen too.

Euro sorry for the BFN yesterday. I guess it's good that you didn't really have any positive vibes so maybe didn't feel too let down? Hopefully your next assisted cycle will get you that BFP.

mrsden you didn't upset me with the calculator at all. It was never going to give an accurate result with so little data, but I find the changes in success rates across the items most interesting. It doesn't go above about 40% that I saw, so even if you put in a 'worst case' scenario, you're only losing about 10-15%, which kind of isn't that bad. Maybe.

wine big hugs and love your way. Feeling so out of control of your own body is hard, it's like you become incidental to the process as the doctors decide what's best for you. It will get better though.

MrsHY1 sorry things don't seem to be turning into a BFP for you. I really hope it hasn't turned into a full AF, but if it has, at least you've got a consultant appointment lined up soon. I don't want to talk about something that I actually know nothing about, but I think it might be good for you if you can manage to start a conversation with your friend. You could have a really good source of support there. I wish I had someone I knew in RL to talk to who understood some of what I'm going through.

Fatima I hope your cramping has stopped, and you get all the way to cd29 and beyond.

kitty my consultant told me yesterday that for the study they did the success rates for IUI wasn't any better than couples just trying longer. Don't know the details though. A horse-y holiday sounds great, I've always wanted to do one. Definitely go ahead and book!

Nelly the adverts for Stella looked amusing. I didn't watch it though. I'm glad you're feeling positive at the back-up plan of adopting. I want to adopt either way, but hopefully after having 2 children of our own.

joy your appointment sounds really interesting. I hope his suggestions work well for you, though I usually find with such things they sound great while I'm there, but when I come out and talk to other people I start doubting the wisdom of believing them. Not to say they're lying to you, I just get less sure, and usually don't go ahead with it.

ladygee glad your meeting with work went well, and that they were so supportive. I'm not sure what my work will be like, I'll just have to wait and see if we get that far. Only 2 weeks to go now!

Pout nice to see you, and good to know you're doing positive and productive things. I hope you sort out your dress dilemma, and good luck with the last few wedding jobs. So sorry your mum is still causing problems and stress, I used to think mine as high maintenance, but she's nothing like yours! She has a problem thinking things through and taking other people's feelings into account, but she's all very predicable with it, so doesn't cause much stress.

This post has got quite long, and I've not mentioned by consultant appointment. I'll write something summarising it, and keep it as short as I can.

So my consultant appointment. They went over my blood tests with me and told me everything looked fine. All the various hormones and levels were good. He also looked at DH's SA results there were two low numbers, motility and count. Neither drastically low, he called it "mild male factor".

He won't put me on any kind of medicated cycles, he's happy from my blood results that I'm ovulating, so doesn't think there'd be any point putting me on stimulants. He also doesn't think it's worth the risk of over stimulation. They don't offer IUI as the success rates compared to 'just trying longer' are poor.

His steps going forward are a referral for a HSG, which will take about 3 months to come through, then another appointment in 4 months to discuss the results/next steps. If the HSG shows a problem we'll be referred for IVF.

The IVF waiting list here is 18 months, if we went private it's about 8 months and £4k. There are other centres quite local that have shorter waiting lists and higher cost. We'll get 2 rounds on the NHS, but if we self fund we 'use up' a funded round.

I have cheered up considerably since reading the previous dire stats on IVF success. I like these much better :)

euro my Mum got quite into low GI for a while and actually I remember liking a lot of the food. To be frank, as long as wine is still in there, I'll be fine . I may as well have a bit of a go at it, like everything I will not become obsessive from a TTC perspective, but rather have a look at the principles and cherry pick the ones I like!

That's good news stasi that everything seems ok in terms of hormones etc, was that the first time you have had them checked after your cancer treatment? IIRC you are still young (28ish) so those timescales don't sound too scary. Of course I am sure they still sound too long to you, but remember I am looking at it from 9 years down the line, so you have oodles of time in that respect . Of course let's hope it's not necessary in any case!

pout I'll get on to Dr Spock

Thinking ahead, do you think whoever starts the next thread should add our list to the first post? Or at least the first page. It's useful to check back to sometimes but I can never find it! On the other hand, I don't like all the Stats threads (normally because they say FertileAsAnything, TTC#4, Cycle2 and other equally depressing things)

Ugh and also there was another one of those "I'm so depressed I'm not pregnant yet" threads today - the poster was on possibly child no 4 or something, had been trying A MONTH and was fed up not being pregnant. She literally posted "Normally my DH just has to look at me and I fall pregnant" bitch

nelly I think it would be a good idea if we have another round up on the first page of the new thread. It's impossible to remember where everyone is up to no matter how hard you try. And there is quite a lot to update, what with so many of us starting one form of assistance or another. Glad to hear you are having a chilled-out cycle. I saw that thread yesterday, I wished I hadn't read it

stasi good to hear that your consultant appointment went well. It sounds very similar to mine. I didn't ask why they don't bother with IUI at my place, but I know the answer would have been what you were told. I also had to wait 4 months for my follow up appointment, but it's coming round quickly (early Feb).

pout so sorry that your mum is causing yet more upset. You deal with it all remarkably well, I'm sure it will stand you in good stead when you become a mum :) although though hopefully your children won't be quite that difficult! Anyway I'm sure once the day comes round you won't be thinking about the dress at all any more.

Really interested in the sugar/insulin chat. I have a terrible sweet tooth and constantly crave sugary things. I can't get through the day without some sweet stuff. I try to make it organic dark chocolate to try and pretend it's healthy. But after reading your post, euro, I am going to try and cut out refined sugar for a while and see if it helps my moods, especially my PMT. I think my diet is pretty low GI otherwise though, as I eat wholewheat everything (I have even trained DH to eat brown pasta and rice - [proud emoticon])

euro so true about looking for the thing that tips the balance for us. My acu lady talked about that, but in terms of needing to work on everything and make it all a little bit better. I looked at that contraception kit but $350?!?! Too much.

fatima about your dream. Has AF shown up? Ummmm........please please let it stay away!!!

Waves to joycep mrsd and everyone else. Would post more but I have to go back to work :(

Just sorting out dates with my mate and going to book the horsey holiday imminently! V excited - thank you for your words of encouragement on that front ladies.

Hello lovely ladies!

I am going to start with OMG pout your mum is evil, stupid or both. And you are so calm and collected about it all. Muchos respect. And an early Feb wedding will be fantastic, it is the time of year one needs cheering most (thinks back to many Valentine's days looming with no love-interest either way).

The insulin thing is interesting euro, I do crave sweet stuff quite regularly, but I have a fairly GI diet, wholemeal bread, loads of veg, muesli type cereal or porridge, but white pasta. I didn't manage to train my DH to eat it and as he does the supermarket shopping, I have no real say... But I am impressed you managed, kitty! Exciting too about the horsey hols, it is good to have stuff to look forward to. We have been talking hols a lot, we had such a good time when we were away. And now I can tell the OH is getting stressier already. And so am I and working a lot. So that is why I have been offline.

Good news on your appointment, stasi, that sounds all positive! I find the deal of two funded cycles but you loose one if you pay for one a bit , but that may just be me. I suppose it saves the NHS, and it is more than the rest of us are getting... Ta for the better stats nelly although I am nowhere near them. Having been back a week, DH and I have gone off wine and a off meat, it is quite nice, but relatively carb heavy. Do potatoes count as low or hi GI (can't tell I know nothing about it, right?)

Thanks for the breast pain stats, mrsd, I have to admit I was Oh No, when I saw the things joycep 's bone cracker said about that... I can always tell I've ovulated because of the achier boobs. But you've calmed me now! The bone cracker sounds interesting, if a little creepy, if I am honest! But I do hope his tips will sort you out.

Quick hug for mrsfrittata if she is still lurking and needing a bit of support. It is rubbish, but we'll get there. (Can you tell I am having a late lunch break, because the morning was good and productive?) Hi and welcome to farfalla, I've seen you around - I am an impressive lurking on bad work days!

Exciting that it is all starting so soon fatima and ladygee, keeping everything crossed for you both!

Not much to report, we are on to the SWithoutI which we had most of our hols as well, quite nice, I think. And we have a scary consultant appointment next week... And that is all. I better get back and stay in the positive flow!!

I think potatoes are relatively high GI but as you usually eat them with protein (meat or fish) I think the overall count for the meal shouldn't be too bad. I follow low GI in a fairly rough and ready way - I try to stick to brown bread and rice most of the time with just occasional white, have protein at most meals, and if I want something sugary have it with a meal rather than on its own. And of course I slip occasionally! I feel like I have a lot more energy when I stick to it though.

Stasi your appointment sounds pretty positive.

Nelly I think it would be good to have that list on the first post or first page of our next thread. Can someone find it? I was thinking that we could all update it over the next few days so that when it goes on the new thread it is up to date.

The latest list I could find, page 27 (using 25 posts a page) so hope I didn't miss a refresh? Have updated mine. Some newbies also maybe need to add to this before the end of the thread.

wine ttc 12 months, me 34, nothing appears to be drastically wrong yet bar a 9.5 fsh that consultant thinks was done on wrong day. Mr wine 32, 7% morphology which seems to be a problem and not a problem depending on who we talk to.

Nelly ttc 17 months, me 37, blood tests show nothing major wrong, no further tests done on me yet. OH 34, both SA all within normal ranges. Unexplained so far, need to get to the doctor asap to get a referral sorted. Normal-ish cycles but they are quite short, although LP seems ok.

Pixiepops ttc 12 months, me 35 - blood tests all ok apart from low amh so time is of the essence. Starting clomid next cycle, if no bfp after 4 cycles our consultant's going to refer us for ivf. DP's 36, his only SA was good.

Karbea ttc 13 months, me 37 - blood tests all ok, not further tests done yet. DP's 38 - 1 SA done results "average" (whatever that means). Going to ARGC on Monday! Yikes!

LemonDrizzle ttc 16 months, both 32; all tests done at 12 months: nothing wrong with me (except slight irregularity, but we are talking a range of 24-31 days, with most 26-28), DH's SA okay but low volume and possible (head) morphology issues - after deliberation they sent us home to try more. Next step is IUI in Feb, then IVF in summer/autumn. Debating whether I want intervention yet, because it took my parents 6 yrs.

Gin ttc 16 months. Me 33, DH 32. My 21 day blood tests all fine. DH's SA disastrous! Count of 3 mil, very few normal and crap morphology. Urologists appt in Dec.

cakes82 ttc 14 months, married 19 months. Me 29, DH 28. (af irregular range of 22-43 most around 25-26) DH's SA satisfactory, bloods all fine apart from LH/FSH which is being redone day 3 of next cycle. HSG next cycle as long as appt free at right time. Depending on these test results it is likely diagnosis will be PCOS and be prescribed Clomid. See consultant Feb/March.

citysnow ttc 14 months. Me 35, DH 35. Irregular and longish cycles before accupuncture started in May (now about 30 days rather than 38-44) so trying to pretend it has only really been 6 months...All tests done and show nothing so we are unexplained. IUI due to start in Jan 12 (with clomid?!) And now a BFP

ladygee tcc 12 months. Me 29, DH 32. DH SA is below average on all counts (don't remember all the stats). HSG showed problems with my right tube. On IVF/ICSI NHS waiting list (13 months). Deciding when to take the plunge and self-fund IVF/ICSI.

euro ttc for around a year (now on cycle 14) and was casual with contraception for a couple of years before that. Me 35, Husband 36. Married 16 months. My blood tests fine, although I only just scraped a reading of 30 to confirm ov. TV u/s fine. HSG - tubes all clear. Hubby's 2 SAs fine -some below average scores but on different factors across the 2 tests so the fertility clinic thought this was fine. Officially diagnosed with "unexplained infertility". Now awaiting NHS IVF. In the meantime I am seeing a private gynae for immunology testing, which has found v high NK cells, so I am about to start immuno-suppressant treatment for that. He has also prescribed Letrozole and a HCG shot to give ovulation a boost and try to speed things up.

joycep ttc 19 months (22cyles). Me 32, DH 29. DH SA fine (7% morph). 1 m/c at 7wks 17months ago. I seem to be fine with a low AMH level for my age. Shortish LP. Tried Clomid for 2 months. Progesterone Suppostories. 2 x IUI cycles. 3rd IUI cancelled.

kitty 32, DH 34. TTC #1, on cycle 16. DH's first SA showed poor morphology (2%). Second one count and morphology better (7%). Third one morphology disastrous (

Thank you for finding it Nelly.

wine ttc 12 months, me 34, nothing appears to be drastically wrong yet bar a 9.5 fsh that consultant thinks was done on wrong day. Mr wine 32, 7% morphology which seems to be a problem and not a problem depending on who we talk to.

Nelly ttc 17 months, me 37, blood tests show nothing major wrong, no further tests done on me yet. OH 34, both SA all within normal ranges. Unexplained so far, need to get to the doctor asap to get a referral sorted. Normal-ish cycles but they are quite short, although LP seems ok.

Pixiepops ttc 12 months, me 35 - blood tests all ok apart from low amh so time is of the essence. Starting clomid next cycle, if no bfp after 4 cycles our consultant's going to refer us for ivf. DP's 36, his only SA was good.

Karbea ttc 13 months, me 37 - blood tests all ok, not further tests done yet. DP's 38 - 1 SA done results "average" (whatever that means). Going to ARGC on Monday! Yikes!

LemonDrizzle ttc 16 months, both 32; all tests done at 12 months: nothing wrong with me (except slight irregularity, but we are talking a range of 24-31 days, with most 26-28), DH's SA okay but low volume and possible (head) morphology issues - after deliberation they sent us home to try more. Next step is IUI in Feb, then IVF in summer/autumn. Debating whether I want intervention yet, because it took my parents 6 yrs.

Gin ttc 16 months. Me 33, DH 32. My 21 day blood tests all fine. DH's SA disastrous! Count of 3 mil, very few normal and crap morphology. Urologists appt in Dec.

cakes82 ttc 14 months, married 19 months. Me 29, DH 28. (af irregular range of 22-43 most around 25-26) DH's SA satisfactory, bloods all fine apart from LH/FSH which is being redone day 3 of next cycle. HSG next cycle as long as appt free at right time. Depending on these test results it is likely diagnosis will be PCOS and be prescribed Clomid. See consultant Feb/March.

citysnow ttc 14 months. Me 35, DH 35. Irregular and longish cycles before accupuncture started in May (now about 30 days rather than 38-44) so trying to pretend it has only really been 6 months...All tests done and show nothing so we are unexplained. IUI due to start in Jan 12 (with clomid?!) And now a BFP

ladygee tcc 12 months. Me 29, DH 32. DH SA is below average on all counts (don't remember all the stats). HSG showed problems with my right tube. On IVF/ICSI NHS waiting list (13 months). Deciding when to take the plunge and self-fund IVF/ICSI.

euro ttc for around a year (now on cycle 14) and was casual with contraception for a couple of years before that. Me 35, Husband 36. Married 16 months. My blood tests fine, although I only just scraped a reading of 30 to confirm ov. TV u/s fine. HSG - tubes all clear. Hubby's 2 SAs fine -some below average scores but on different factors across the 2 tests so the fertility clinic thought this was fine. Officially diagnosed with "unexplained infertility". Now awaiting NHS IVF. In the meantime I am seeing a private gynae for immunology testing, which has found v high NK cells, so I am about to start immuno-suppressant treatment for that. He has also prescribed Letrozole and a HCG shot to give ovulation a boost and try to speed things up.

joycep ttc 19 months (22cyles). Me 32, DH 29. DH SA fine (7% morph). 1 m/c at 7wks 17months ago. I seem to be fine with a low AMH level for my age. Shortish LP. Tried Clomid for 2 months. Progesterone Suppostories. 2 x IUI cycles. 3rd IUI cancelled.

kitty 32, DH 34. TTC #1, on cycle 16. DH's first SA showed poor morphology (2%). Second one count and morphology better (7%). Third one morphology disastrous (

Hello ladies. And hello weekend!

Not sure what to make of all the sore boobs talk as I rarely get them (only mildly for a couple of days after OV). Don?t know if this is good or bad

Interesting to learn about low GI diets too ? we had to make changes to our diets last year as DH is on the edge of becoming diabetic so we try to eat within those rough guidelines but wholewheat pasta still isn?t on the menu We should maybe have a more concerted effort though

Fatima ? I?m now v.intrigued as to just how close we might live Not sure my husband would have survived if I?d have had that dream, I have an irrational hatred for Ashley Cole and am prone to moving about lots whilst dreaming!

Euro ? loving the sound of your holiday plans if not a teeny bit jealous I?m thinking of holidays for my 30th in July ? at the moment the list has everything from Italy to California!

Pout ? sounds like you?ve had a lovely few days. But I can?t believe your mother!! You must have the patience of a saint. You?re handling it so well and it sounds like you have a sensible plan. An early Feb wedding will be gorgeous

Nelly ? Your homemade cereal bar sounds delicious. Can I be cheeky and ask if you have a recipe? I like the look of those stats too ? very positive indeed

Stasi ? good news that everything is ok and your appointment went well.

Kitty ? yay for the horsey holiday!

Lemon ? good luck for your appt next week

Good idea about the stats, thanks for digging the list out nelly. I'll update mine now.

Weekend waves to everyone

Thank you for finding it Nelly.

wine ttc 12 months, me 34, nothing appears to be drastically wrong yet bar a 9.5 fsh that consultant thinks was done on wrong day. Mr wine 32, 7% morphology which seems to be a problem and not a problem depending on who we talk to.

Nelly ttc 17 months, me 37, blood tests show nothing major wrong, no further tests done on me yet. OH 34, both SA all within normal ranges. Unexplained so far, need to get to the doctor asap to get a referral sorted. Normal-ish cycles but they are quite short, although LP seems ok.

Pixiepops ttc 12 months, me 35 - blood tests all ok apart from low amh so time is of the essence. Starting clomid next cycle, if no bfp after 4 cycles our consultant's going to refer us for ivf. DP's 36, his only SA was good.

Karbea ttc 13 months, me 37 - blood tests all ok, not further tests done yet. DP's 38 - 1 SA done results "average" (whatever that means). Going to ARGC on Monday! Yikes!

LemonDrizzle ttc 16 months, both 32; all tests done at 12 months: nothing wrong with me (except slight irregularity, but we are talking a range of 24-31 days, with most 26-28), DH's SA okay but low volume and possible (head) morphology issues - after deliberation they sent us home to try more. Next step is IUI in Feb, then IVF in summer/autumn. Debating whether I want intervention yet, because it took my parents 6 yrs.

Gin ttc 16 months. Me 33, DH 32. My 21 day blood tests all fine. DH's SA disastrous! Count of 3 mil, very few normal and crap morphology. Urologists appt in Dec.

cakes82 ttc 14 months, married 19 months. Me 29, DH 28. (af irregular range of 22-43 most around 25-26) DH's SA satisfactory, bloods all fine apart from LH/FSH which is being redone day 3 of next cycle. HSG next cycle as long as appt free at right time. Depending on these test results it is likely diagnosis will be PCOS and be prescribed Clomid. See consultant Feb/March.

citysnow ttc 14 months. Me 35, DH 35. Irregular and longish cycles before accupuncture started in May (now about 30 days rather than 38-44) so trying to pretend it has only really been 6 months...All tests done and show nothing so we are unexplained. IUI due to start in Jan 12 (with clomid?!) And now a BFP

ladygee tcc 13 months. Me 29, DH 32. DH SA is below average on all counts (don't remember all the stats). HSG showed blockage at the opening of my right tube. On NHS waiting list (13 months). Starting self-funded ICSI at the end of Jan 2012

euro ttc for around a year (now on cycle 14) and was casual with contraception for a couple of years before that. Me 35, Husband 36. Married 16 months. My blood tests fine, although I only just scraped a reading of 30 to confirm ov. TV u/s fine. HSG - tubes all clear. Hubby's 2 SAs fine -some below average scores but on different factors across the 2 tests so the fertility clinic thought this was fine. Officially diagnosed with "unexplained infertility". Now awaiting NHS IVF. In the meantime I am seeing a private gynae for immunology testing, which has found v high NK cells, so I am about to start immuno-suppressant treatment for that. He has also prescribed Letrozole and a HCG shot to give ovulation a boost and try to speed things up.

joycep ttc 19 months (22cyles). Me 32, DH 29. DH SA fine (7% morph). 1 m/c at 7wks 17months ago. I seem to be fine with a low AMH level for my age. Shortish LP. Tried Clomid for 2 months. Progesterone Suppostories. 2 x IUI cycles. 3rd IUI cancelled.

kitty 32, DH 34. TTC #1, on cycle 16. DH's first SA showed poor morphology (2%). Second one count and morphology better (7%). Third one morphology disastrous (

wine ttc 12 months, me 34, nothing appears to be drastically wrong yet bar a 9.5 fsh that consultant thinks was done on wrong day. Mr wine 32, 7% morphology which seems to be a problem and not a problem depending on who we talk to.

Nelly ttc 17 months, me 37, blood tests show nothing major wrong, no further tests done on me yet. OH 34, both SA all within normal ranges. Unexplained so far, need to get to the doctor asap to get a referral sorted. Normal-ish cycles but they are quite short, although LP seems ok.

Pixiepops ttc 12 months, me 35 - blood tests all ok apart from low amh so time is of the essence. Starting clomid next cycle, if no bfp after 4 cycles our consultant's going to refer us for ivf. DP's 36, his only SA was good.

Karbea ttc 13 months, me 37 - blood tests all ok, not further tests done yet. DP's 38 - 1 SA done results "average" (whatever that means). Going to ARGC on Monday! Yikes!

LemonDrizzle ttc 16 months, both 32; all tests done at 12 months: nothing wrong with me (except slight irregularity, but we are talking a range of 24-31 days, with most 26-28), DH's SA okay but low volume and possible (head) morphology issues - after deliberation they sent us home to try more. Next step is IUI in Feb, then IVF in summer/autumn. Debating whether I want intervention yet, because it took my parents 6 yrs.

Gin ttc 16 months. Me 33, DH 32. My 21 day blood tests all fine. DH's SA disastrous! Count of 3 mil, very few normal and crap morphology. Urologists appt in Dec.

cakes82 ttc 15 months, married 20 months. Me 29, DH 28. (af irregular range of 22-43 most around 25-26) DH's SA satisfactory, bloods done not really sure if all ok. HSG done and all seems fine. Depending on consultants opinion, possible diagnosis of PCOS and being prescribed Clomid. See consultant Feb/March.

citysnow ttc 14 months. Me 35, DH 35. Irregular and longish cycles before accupuncture started in May (now about 30 days rather than 38-44) so trying to pretend it has only really been 6 months...All tests done and show nothing so we are unexplained. IUI due to start in Jan 12 (with clomid?!) And now a BFP

ladygee tcc 12 months. Me 29, DH 32. DH SA is below average on all counts (don't remember all the stats). HSG showed problems with my right tube. On IVF/ICSI NHS waiting list (13 months). Deciding when to take the plunge and self-fund IVF/ICSI.

euro ttc for around a year (now on cycle 14) and was casual with contraception for a couple of years before that. Me 35, Husband 36. Married 16 months. My blood tests fine, although I only just scraped a reading of 30 to confirm ov. TV u/s fine. HSG - tubes all clear. Hubby's 2 SAs fine -some below average scores but on different factors across the 2 tests so the fertility clinic thought this was fine. Officially diagnosed with "unexplained infertility". Now awaiting NHS IVF. In the meantime I am seeing a private gynae for immunology testing, which has found v high NK cells, so I am about to start immuno-suppressant treatment for that. He has also prescribed Letrozole and a HCG shot to give ovulation a boost and try to speed things up.

joycep ttc 19 months (22cyles). Me 32, DH 29. DH SA fine (7% morph). 1 m/c at 7wks 17months ago. I seem to be fine with a low AMH level for my age. Shortish LP. Tried Clomid for 2 months. Progesterone Suppostories. 2 x IUI cycles. 3rd IUI cancelled.

kitty 32, DH 34. TTC #1, on cycle 16. DH's first SA showed poor morphology (2%). Second one count and morphology better (7%). Third one morphology disastrous (