TTC for 10+ months, part 4

[eurochick]

Time for a new thread as the other one is just about full.

Fingers crossed for lots of patiently-awaited BFPs on this one!

I'm equally appalled by the like button and have e-mailed MN. It is actually enough to make me reluctant to post. For this to wind up on my Facebook page would be devastating.

kitty just seen that you posted about the facebook link too. I'm not on FB but the thought of people knowing that I'm posting or even just reading on a thread about conception makes me shiver. Good move wine to email MN.

We haven't started SWI yet, it's CD7 so no real rush yet. DH has been working very long hours and I'm coming down with a cold so not in the mood.

Has anyone got any exciting plans for the weekend? I need to do a few last bits of xmas shopping and then it's my works do tomorrow night. So I expect Sunday to go past in a hangover blur .

Things are supposed to calm down in the run up to Christmas but it's just been crazy busy this week and seems like it has been for others too. There's no way I'll catch up on everything so hello to everyone!

pout I am so sorry to hear what happened yesterday, how awful. I hope you managed to make some plans with your sister and that you're doing ok today.

gin I'm sorry about the SA results, it's a lot to digest but as others have said you still have a great shot with ICSI. We watched a video of how it all happens at a patient information evening - very clever stuff indeed. It sounds sensible to look into getting sperm frozen if they don't know what the situation is yet. We're funding our treatment next year so I don't know if it's covered by the NHS, I would hope that it is in your situation, but the price list we have shows that you can get sperm frozen and stored for 3 years for £370.

mrsd I think lots of people don't do Christmas cards any more - we've only had a few (though I've still to send mine!) Even my Grandma is making a donation to the local hospice instead of doing cards this year. Sounds like the in laws are being a bit unreasonable - it's so stressful trying to please everyone, I hope it works itself out.

nelly - I hate that 'I'd recommend it' line in particular - it seems to wind me up more than any other insensitive comment people make. I smiled at you thinking about me being professional - I'm not really - and it won't get to that point anyway. Though I have been told I have Monica-esque tendencies from time to time!!

kitty sorry about the arrival of AF - but good to hear about your friend's happy ending

TTC has zapped the joy out of a lot of things - having a guilt free drink being one of them but also I echo the comments about knowing my lady parts too intimately (I'm a bit of a prude with all of that stuff truth be told).

Plans for 2012? After lots of talking and decision making, ICSI at the end of Jan/start of Feb unless we have a meltdown before then All paid and signed for as of yesterday...eek! This was an experience in itself - happy to share more when the time is right for people. If that doesn't work, we'll get a longed-for puppy and DH wants to climb Kilimanjaro next Sept/Oct!

Apologies for not catching up on everything today

I'm infuriated by the FB thing too - I'd be mortified if I clicked on it by accident.

Mrsd - snap - CD7 here too, no SWI as I OV late so we don't start til after CD10 usually. I've developed a rotten cold too so I'm hoping that passes quickly, although I think I've already passed it on to DH...

No real plans at the weekend - just a little shopping. Enjoy your works party!

Wine when you put it like that I would have to agree that a few more things have been ruined for me than just having sff whenever I feel like it! I gave up peas for about 10 months but am now back on them. Giving them up didn't seem to do any good after all! I also know what you mean about CM. I used to be fairly oblivious to my cycle. I'd get a twinge a couple of weeks after my period which I recognised as related to ov and would note it down so I knew my period would come around 2 weeks later and that was the extent of my cycle tracking! And the carefree drinking has definitely gone out of the window. Like you I was a regular moderate drinker. I would often have a glass at home with dinner. I have stopped that now and just have a couple of glasses when I am out and limit that to a couple of times a week. Meh.

ladygee you are really moving forward! I hope ICSI works for you. A close friend of mine has three lovely ICSI kids.

I completely agree on the like button. I have posted on the main thread on this. I use a mouse with my left hand due to RSI in my right and am always misclicking things. I would be mortified if anything from here ended up on my FB page which not only has friends and family on it but also some professional colleagues!

Uh oh, just spent too much time googling and mind boggling with what is wrong that has stopped me from getting pregnant. It's time to step away from the screen..

What have you been googling about wine?

I emailed my gynae the other day to ask if I could have copies of all my test results and to explain that we would be going for IVF in the summer. Everything has arrived in the post today along with a lovely note handwritten by her wishing us lots of luck and saying that we must send her a photo when we have our baby . That has really cheered me up that she took the time to do that and that she feels like we will get there. Anyway, I've had a quick glance at all my results. My FSH is 7, is that bad, what number shows poor ovarian reserve? And my LH is 11 so that indicates the pcos I think. Everything else seems to be slap bang in the middle of the normal ranges. And my insulin was good and the peptide one so that's good that I don't seem to have the insulin resistance that is often associated with pcos.

I'm off to study the results some more now.

shed some light please ladies.

CD 77 :'( last week i had light brown "spotting" for about 6 days, although, no cramps no pains nothing.

Tested last week, after bleeding had stopped = negative.

Tested again today, = negative.

Had full set of blood tests done (end Nov) and nothing has come back on those either!

mrsden I googled myself a bit sick, with nk cells, being 35, endo, infertility blogs. Ive been so good in recent months but had a total doom binge today. I'm trying not to think about, watching trashy tv, but even desp scousewives were maing me feel ancient talking about babies. Fsh 7 is great. I got 9.5 which is only fair apparently. But I'm hoping it's cos I did it on day 5 not 2. That was my consultants promise anyway! Was yours day 5? I'm glad everything looks ok for you and how lovely for her to write a note

treacle are your cycles normally this long?

Yes, as wine says, and FSH level of 7 is great. LH being higher than FSH is indicative of PCOS. Ideally they would be in a one to one ration.

mrsd that was nice of your consultant.

I have just been to see needles lady. She is always so sunny. I feel better when I come out of there. And then I did a bit of shopping on the way back. I am feeling slightly guilty as I spent more on some treats for myself than on gifts.

pout - I hope you have been able to get to your mum today. Feel so awful for you.

gin / mrsd - we can do some virtual hand holding next year with the ivf route in the summer, if of course we have to do it. I keep thinking it's far away but i know in truth it's only 6 or 7 periods away for me. Really feel for you on the MiL front MrsD. That's exactly the sort of thing mine would do. It's up to your DH to put his foot down.

kitty - iui is a funny one. it does work for people. I don't what kind of people though. presumably if you have hostile cm or the swimmers aren't fast. But I have blown a lot of money on it and i should have saved that cash. the annoying hting is my mother told me it was a waste of money which i was very upset aobut and i now realise she was right.

Had a nightmarish day at work yesterday. Firstly my work computer got corrupted. An IT guy tapped in to it remotely and he was playing around with things and when he copied and pasted something, it pasted a whole Mumsnet post I had written. It was awful and SO embarrassing! I was just sitting there thinking, shit, shit, shit!! Then they were trying to recover my whole computer and they went in to temp files and all I could see were mumsnet log files. I can't actually go on MN anymore at work anyway because of my new desk but that was a bit of a wake up call that i really can't even do anything surreptiously.
Then I read about Konnie Huq and Charlie Brooker being pregnant. That for some reason annoyed me. We had our xmas party and a guy in the office announced he was expecting a child and that really upset me.. I thought they were trying as he had given up smoking. Then when people were drunk , this other guy weirdly asked me whether i was having ivf...?? . i have no idea why but he was asking me all sorts of really personal questions. He said he had noticed me being really sensitive aobut questions on kids. I had no idea what to say. I have always been very careful not to say anything at work.

hello to everyone else. wine, Euro , stasi, nelly et al.

Just a quickie from me, but joy the Konnie H and Charlie B thing annoyed me too today! They must have been trying for all of 5 minutes, bah! [takes large glug of gin] Will post properly tomorrow!

wheresmywine

they're usually around 30-49 days apart this is a bit out of the ordinary for me.

Hi ladies, happy Saturday to you all. I?ve been having a chilled out one pottering around the house. The weather has really not been conducive to going outside, so I haven?t

ladygee I?m sooo excited that you will be going for ICSI in the very near future. That?s great news. Without wanting to sound mega cheesy, I hope we can share your journey and help support you. Just think, you could have your BFP in a couple of months.

Re the things TTC has ruined. Cheeky drinks are definitely up there, although recently I?ve been slipping back into old habits in that respect I must admit. For me it?s less about particular things and more about a constant low-level guilt about everything. Not eating the right things, not doing the right exercise, not feeding DH enough broccoli, not meditating and doing yoga enough, obsessing too much, etc etc...I always have this feeling that if I was being ?perfect? we?d get a BFP and somehow the fact that we?re not preg is my fault for being bad.

Anyway I was talking to my acu lady last night (had a really good session that resulted in a ridiculous amount of sleep) and I asked her about the diet thing. She reckons that as long as you are eating a reasonably healthy balanced diet then you shouldn?t worry too much. She said she has had some patients with really bad diets (gave example of girl who had two diet cokes and two Fry?s peppermint cream bars for breakfast every day ) and in those situations things need to change. But for most people it?s more about improving sperm quality and the second half of their cycle. She wants me to concentrate on getting warm, so I am going to treat myself to a lovely new hot water bottle soon ? and a yantra mat! She also suggested I might want to put a few pounds on. I am naturally slim and have a low BMI and she reckoned it could do with being higher for TTC purposes. I?m not too sure TBH as I think my BMI is just low because I have a small frame. But hey I?ll probably pile a few pounds on over Christmas anyway and it?s hardly the worst thing in the world to have to work on (although apparently it needs to be via avocados, olive oil and brazil nuts, not Quality Street and Bailey?s )

Also a quick question on the subject of acupuncture, do your practitioners use Moxa? Mine uses it a lot on my back, feet and last night she did it on my stomach. Was lovely but took ages to warm up so I guess it was a bit cold (although it didn?t feel it to the touch).

mrsd that?s really nice of your gynae to send you that note, how sweet.

wine hope you are feeling ok about next week, I?ve been thinking of you. Glad you have finished work and have lots of time off. I?m sure your lovely DH will pamper you. Do you have to stay in overnight?

euro glad you also had a good acu session and got yourself some treats-it?s the way forward!

joycep sorry about your awful day. That thing with your work computer is such a nightmare! And yes about Charlie Brooker and Konnie Huq. And grrr at the nosy git asking you all those questions when it was clearly making you feel uncomfortable. Not nice ? hope you are feeling better today.

pout thinking of you. I hope you are ok.

treacle I don?t know much about very long cycles, sorry. Could it be PCOS, or are you wondering if you are pregnant?

Waves to gin and everyone else.

Happy Festive Sunday to you all. It's been family Xmas party my end this weekend. No one asked about babies and what I thought was a pregnancy announcement was something else (whispered to dh). But it was at the same place as last year - and I was stressing about having babies then. Bah humbug!

kitty that is EXACTLY how I feel - a constant, malingering sense of low level guilt. And that if I only could quit the booze, eat only health radiating foods, exercise well and consistently and boost myself with the right supplements and alternative treatments, I'd get there. But would I? I'm going to give it my all this January. But I worry that I'm always setting myself up for a fail and, like you said, blaming myself for not being 'perfect'. And god knows, friends have conceived easily this year on the plenty booze and ready meal plan. My last acu lady used moxa once and I loved loved it. My new hippy acu lady hasn't yet. In fact, she uses less needles? I also have a low bmi, well, under 20 anyway. It will no doubt grow over Xmas, but my acu seems mostly concerned with my weight and my coldness. But, I also have very very skinny friends who have had no problems. I think that regular periods signal that all is ok in the weight dept, cos when I was very skinny, my periods vanished altogether. But are we all surprised that Kate M hasn't announced anything yet? I am. Also, I picked up snowdrops in the charity shop yesterday, it felt like a fitting January read. Thanks for thinking of me and the lapatrocity. My mum texted me to say that she had bought me peppermint cordial for Xmas day but would I prefer it in a cocktail with vodka. Bless.

joycep what a yukky work situation. I know that such rumours are abound at my work about me because I heard from a colleague. Well, stuff them - it is none of their business!hope it hasn't made you feel too awkward.

pout thinking about you, I hope things aren't too difficult or stressful and that maybe this is your pre wedding evening?

treacle I second kitty, could it be pcos, or have you had a bug, lost weight or been under a lot of stress? Hope you get things sorted soon.

Loves and your Xmas tipple of choice to everyone else xx

Hello ladies, having a quick moment of working internet, so thought I'd say hi. 3DPO here so not quite symptom spotting ok I am making a few things up to pass the time

joycep that is an absolute nightmare about your work computer. Perhaps I better carry on with the phone posting from now on! I can only imagine how you must have felt

Do you mind me asking what your bmi is kitty as I read on another thread that you need to be 19+ for IVF and I'm a little lower than that normally. Just another thing to worry about I suppose. I've not done acu but maybe I should if it warms you up!

Well done on buying treats for yourself euro

Step away from the google wine

Sorry this is short and I haven't done much name-checking, worried t'internet will drop again. Thinking of pout and all the family and hoping things are as ok as they can be at the moment.

Hi all, hope you've all had good Christmassy weekends! Ours has been pretty busy with Xmas drinks etc. Managed to see friends with kids without bursting into tears! In fact it all looked rather hard work . I had my first proper hangover since ttc this week and it felt kinda good! Like I was reclaiming my life from the ttc. Luckily I was off on leave that day, cos am too old for work and hangover combo. DH and I have decided to have a dry January though :(

Thank you all for your kind words this week. It really does help and you all know how to say exactly the right thing. Like kitty, if I win the lotto, I'll be booking us into the fertility shangri la!

nelly, kitty and wine, I'm v jealous of your low bmis! I used to be super skinny and now have quite a pot belly and long for my skinny days. However, I know it's not great when it's something else to worry about with regards to ttc. But lots of skinny people (most celebs) get pregnant no probs and if you have regular periods, I'm sure all is fine.

wine hope you have managed to step away from google! I find the net helpful/distressing in equal measures. I'm terrible for googling whenever I'm ill and convincing myself I have some kind of tropical disease...

joy and mrsd virtual hand holding through ivf sounds good. It's all rather scary. Have you checked out any clinics yet? I'm thinking about booking us onto some open days in the new year. ladyg that's really exciting that you are all booked in for yours. Wishing you lots and lots of luck with it.

euro I like the sound of your shopping.. I think we all deserve to treat ourselves, especially as Christmas can be particular hard when ttc. I did have a phase of buying myself a consolation present whenever my period started, which I might have to start doing again..

pout hope you are ok as you can be at such a difficult time.

Hello to everyone i've missed. Lots of festive to you all..

ho ho ho everyone .

I am feeling slightly more festive this week. We leave for the UK tomorrow, so I've been wrapping presents and packing our cases while listening to my xmas CDs.

gin, ladyg & joycep it will be nice if we can hold each others hands through IVF. I had been worried that it would feel like such a lonely experience not knowing anyone in RL going through it so it makes me feel so much better to know that we have each other. I feel quite positive about ivf at the moment (this might be because I'm heading for mid cycle so happy hormones around) but at least ivf will feel like actively doing something instead of this limbo ground. And ivf is nearly always successful eventually. So, we will get there.

gin we're going to use the clinic that is nearest to us. Mainly for logistical reasons because it will make appointments so much easier if we use it rather than having to travel to another town. The clinics here don't publish data in the same way as in the UK which makes it impossible to compare. But we're going to go with it for now. DH and I talked about it last night and we said we'd try and make our first consultation appointment for April or May and see what they say. If I don't like the place after that consultation then we can choose somewhere else.

gin did the urologist mention your husband being test for CFTR mutation? It is sometimes a cause of low count, or for the vas deferens being missing. I don't know if this is the case for your DH or not but just thought I'd mention it because we have been advised to get tested for the mutation before we start IVF because they couldn't see one of the vas deferens on the scan so said we should get tested to check that we both aren't carriers of the CF gene (and could therefore have a child with cystic fibrosis). I think it's something the IVF clinic will organise for us.

nelly, kitty and wine can I join your low BMI club? Mine hovers around 20, sometimes just below. But I asked my gynae about my weight and she said it was perfect. In fact she said because I have pcos it is especially important for me to keep my BMI lower and that she has more concerns about people with a BMI at the opposite end of the range, not necessarily for conception but because of the problems it causes during pregnancy. But I think she was talking about people with very high BMIs. Obviously it's important not to be too thin or periods might stop but I think your BMI has to be really low for that to happen. I'm quite lucky in that I can eat more or less what I like and not put on too much weight but also I'm quite active so that helps.

pout I don't know if you're getting married today or not. But regardless I'm thinking of you xx

Hello

I've been invited over here by Mrsden. Bear with me while I try to sum up my ttc journey without sending you to sleep!

I'm 30, have been ttc for over a year. We stopped using contraceptive in sept 2010 (was not on the pill) but started actively ttc around ovulation about November last year. No luck so far. Have started investigations via GP. Have had day 21, day 3 and pelvic ultrasound. Day 3 could indicate PCO and ultrasound shows PCO but GP says I don't have PCOS. Day 21 indicate anaemia and low vitamin b12. Have been put on iron supplements and vit b12 injections. DH has supplied 2 semen samples which we have been told are "relatively normal". I have an appointment with GP in January and thanks to Mrsden's advice am going to ask for a referral to fertility specialist.

Right hope your still with me! I've seen a lot of you around the conception boards, so is nice to meet you properly

Sounds like everyone is getting into the Christmas spirit in here. I'm getting so excited, I love Christmas

Btw I read back through the most recent pages. I just wanted to say to Pout I was so sorry to hear about your mums partner. What an awful thing to happen so close to your wedding and Christmas. Hope you and your family are doing ok.

Welcome cupcakes, glad you found your way over here. If you go back a few pages on this thread you can see a list of us all and our ttc journeys so far. Here is my little summary, we've been ttc 18 mths, age 30, started investigations after 11mths. DH told he has very low count, I have pcos although none of the obvious signs. Because of DH's sperm it looks like we're headed for IVF in the summer of 2012.

This is a great thread, everyone is here to support each other so post whenever you want and we'll do our best to help. Do you think you have pcos? Have you tried temping or OPKs to check if you ovulate?

Welcome cupcakes though as always I'm sorry you have to be here at all. As the list was quite a long way back, thought I'd post it for you. It's about a month out of date now. Will post a proper update in a mo!

wine ttc 12 months, me 34, nothing appears to be drastically wrong yet bar a 9.5 fsh that consultant thinks was done on wrong day. Mr wine 32, 7% morphology which seems to be a problem and not a problem depending on who we talk to.

nelly ttc 15 months, me 37, blood tests show nothing major wrong, no further tests done on me yet. OH 33, first SA all normal. Still not organised enough to get second set done, or indeed get round to further investigations. So unexplained so far.

Pixiepops ttc 12 months, me 35 - blood tests all ok apart from low amh so time is of the essence. Starting clomid next cycle, if no bfp after 4 cycles our consultant's going to refer us for ivf. DP's 36, his only SA was good.

Karbea ttc 13 months, me 37 - blood tests all ok, not further tests done yet. DP's 38 - 1 SA done results "average" (whatever that means). Going to ARGC on Monday! Yikes!

LemonDrizzle ttc 16 months, both 32; all tests done at 12 months: nothing wrong with me (except slight irregularity, but we are talking a range of 24-31 days, with most 26-28), DH's SA okay but low volume and possible (head) morphology issues - after deliberation they sent us home to try more. Next step is IUI in Feb, then IVF in summer/autumn. Debating whether I want intervention yet, because it took my parents 6 yrs.

Gin ttc 16 months. Me 33, DH 32. My 21 day blood tests all fine. DH's SA disastrous! Count of 3 mil, very few normal and crap morphology. Urologists appt in Dec.

cakes82 ttc 13 months, married 18months. Me 29, DH 28. (af irregular range of 22-43 most around 25-26) DH's SA satisfactory bloods all fine apart from LH/FSH get retest results today still think done on wrong day tho. Clinic appt 22nd Nov.

citysnow ttc 14 months. Me 35, DH 35. Irregular and longish cycles before accupuncture started in May (now about 30 days rather than 38-44) so trying to pretend it has only really been 6 months...All tests done and show nothing so we are unexplained. IUI due to start in Jan 12 (with clomid?!)

ladygee tcc 12 months. Me 29, DH 32. DH SA is below average on all counts (don't remember all the stats). HSG showed problems with my right tube. On IVF/ICSI NHS waiting list (13 months). Deciding when to take the plunge and self-fund IVF/ICSI.

euro ttc 12 months (now on cycle 13). Me 35, Husband 36. Married 14 months. My blood tests fine, although I only just scraped a reading of 30 to confirm ov. TV u/s fine. HSG - tubes all clear. Hubby's 2 SAs fine -some below average scores but on different factors across the 2 tests so the fertility clinic thought this was fine. Now awaiting NHS IVF and seeing a private consultant for immunology testing soon. Would like to discuss with him the possibility of less "drastic" treatment before IVF.

joycep ttc 19 months (22cyles). Me 32, DH 29. DH SA fine (7% morph). 1 m/c at 7wks 17months ago. I seem to be fine with a low AMH level for my age. Shortish LP. Tried Clomid for 2 months. Progesterone Suppostories. 2 x IUI cycles. 3rd IUI cancelled.

kitty 32, DH 33. TTC #1 for 15 months. DH's first SA showed poor morphology (2%). Second one count and morphology better (7%). As wine said, some people think that's fine and others not. Day 21 test done, confirmed ovulation (60). No other blood tests done yet; consultant deemed unnecessary as ov response so strong got my HSG next week. Next appointment in Feb and a could be a straight referral for ivf. Considering self funding a few iui cycles in the meantime if tubes clear though.

mrsden 30, DH 31. ttc 16 months (18 cycles). Tests show I have PCOS but think I ovulate most months but not all. DH has very low count and poor morphology. ICSI recommended, saving up to start summer 2012 and praying for a natural BFP in the meantime.

Fatima 25, DH 36. ttc 19months. Married 14 months. All my bloods and scan fine. DHs SA disastrous. 2 tests at 1 year. Self funding ICSI with egg share at private clinic, should start DR in Jan. DH has a SA with private clinic of 2mill but not great morph and motility. Had some frozen just incase.

seriouscaffeineaddict Ttc 30 months, me 34, dh 39. Thanks to pct rule change this summer ivf no longer an option as dh has a ds. Day 21 test looming, SA also pending. Evrrything regular and normal so no idea what problem is.

Stasi 30, DH 30. TTC#1 for 15 months (cycle 17). Day 3/21 bloods taken, but not got results. DH's SA form got, but not 'produced' or delivered. Planned for next week. Previous medical history could be a problem; as I had 6 months of chemo (Cap/Ox), but there are no studies available for their effect on fertility. Ov varies between days 14-18, LP from 9-13 days, and cycle length from 26-29 days.

MrsHY1/MrsFrittata 31. TTC 12 months. Have polycystic ovaries but normal bloods. Cycles vary but tend to be 30-35 days with late O (even with Clomid) at cd18-25. Short luteal phase of 9-11 days. 4 cycles of Clomid down, 2 to go. HSG next week (agh). OH's results normal.

izzybizzybuzzybees ttc#2 ME 27 DH 27 married for 3 years ttc #2 for 17 months but in that whole time I've only had 4 cycles! I have just been diagnosed pcos with right ovary covered in cysts, left not as bad. Cycles non existant really, currently cd 71. On metformin now, bmi is 35.6 but at ww and as long as is less than 35 at appt in Jan we will start clomid. everything normal with DH.

TheCake ttc#1 I'm 31 and DH is 32, we've been married for 16 months and ttc for 11 months with no hint of a bfp! My cycle varies from 28 to 33 days, my luteal phase is short but it has got to 11 days most recently which is better than the 9 it was. If I'm not pregnant by next year I will go to the docs. I'm healthy weight and fit- do yoga and run and my DH is too, however we both have stressful jobs and probably drink too much

Loup23 me 32, DH 42 (is he the oldest DH on here?!) ttc#1 for 11 months (m/c in Feb/March at 7 weeks) nothing since! Slightly late O but generally 32 day cycles and mid-cycle spotting stopped since accupuncture over 4 months. Blood tests in May all normal, repeating this month to make sure. DH has children from previous relationship so unlikely to be poor SA - hoping it's not alcohol related as we both drink way too much.....

Pout Me 36, DH 40, TTC#1. Think that I am in my 20th or 21st cycle (have tried to stop obsessing and slightly lost track of things in the hope that I could trick my stupid womb that I don't care!) Diagnosed with mild PCOS but seem to ovulate. Had ultrasound, bloodwork and HSG which were fine. DP had SA which wasn't as good as they would like but satisfactory. Referred and discharged by Consultant with unexplained infertility. The PCT has withdrawn IVF/IUI funding so was told to have privately funded IVF. Not a chance we can afford that before my ovaries shrivel up so am stuck in limbo.

Poppyjen ttc#2. I am 30, DH 29. DS1 conceived first cycle after coming off the pill which was a bit of a surprise after diagnosis of PCOS. 10 months ttc no2, and a miscarriage at 6 weeks back in May. Very long cycles with late ovulation (the earliest CD27 and latest CD36) and fairly short LP (11 days). Healthy weight, reasonably fit and healthy and trying to stay positive! Chemical pg last cycle. First appointment with consultant at private fertility clinic on Mon 28th Nov and suspect based on previous advice that Clomid will be prescribed. Until then I am taking Agnus Castus and VitB complex in the hope that this will kick my wayward cycle into touch!

Sorry still not quite caught up but before I forget, OH is due to get his second SA results any day now (and I had to do my own vaginal swab today - lovely ) so from the first one his GP didn't give him any results, just said it was normal.

So what should he expect - a count, a morphology and a motility? I think I know what they all mean but not 100% sure! Anything else? What would be classed as normal, so I can warn him. He might have a heart attack if he is expecting normal to be 90% and he only gets a 7% number

Any links etc gratefully accepted.

nelly, there is quite a good explanation of results here labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/semen/tab/test

Try and get a full print out of the results which includes the lab's reference values. This will tell you what they consider to be the normal range because it will differ between labs depending on what techniques they use. This is the ranges our lab considered to be normal.

volume greater than 1.5ml
pH greater than 7.2
number greater than 15Mio/ml
Total number in ejaculate greater than 39Mio/ejaculate
motility, moving forward greater than 12.5 Mio/ejaculate and greater than 40%
Morphology (using the strict Kruger scale) greater than 3%

Hope that helps.

Thanks mrsden will see how they come back. Interestingly I clicked on the UK page and got to a page that said total number should be at least 80mio/ejaculate so it's clearly not as simple as hard and fast numbers. Great idea to ask for the lab norms though, thanks :)