July 2012 flight - continued...

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How gutted to log on and find that someone had beaten me to the 1000 post and I couldn't update on the old thread.

Particularly as I got my BFP last night!!! I'd had two BFNs last week and was expecting AF to arrive while on holiday but it never came... Got more and more convinced that I was pg (feeling a bit sick too) as the weekend went on and literally tested within 10 mins of arriving home. Poor DH was still unloading the car as I greeted him at the door with my pink line!

Very excited although a bit apprehensive too. Really want to tell everyone but obviously don't want to this early so am REALLY pleased I have all you lovely ladies on MN to share with.

I was too excited to do more than skim the last few pages on the last thread but did see there had been several other BFPs so congratulations to all those too!

Oh festie hope your dear mum feels better soon!! I agree with Rusulka there must be alternatives to permanent care - perhaps even organising home help etc to come in whilst her arm is healing! It's so hard when they are so far away; my parents are a 2 hour drive and when my dear papa was rushed into hospital, we broke all the speed limits and made it in just over an hour

Could she come and reside with you for a bit? I know it's not ideal, but at least you would be there on hand to look after her :)

Hope everything goes well for your fathers funeral tomorrow, we will all be thinking of you

well, back from the doctors, confirmed PCOS :( have got to got for an ultrasound and he's referring me to a gynaecologist! Has also recommended losing weight (which is also a symptom of PCOS), which I have been trying to do but to no avail! Feeling really glum - never thought i would ever be considered infertile but there are the hard facts; makes sense with all the wobbly cycles though, but hoping beyond hope that i manage it naturally!

I know that all hope is not lost and that plenty of women get pg with it, but just feel a bit despairing at the moment.

thanks for all your well wishes really made me feel better knowing that you are here for me! Could do with a drink but suppose need to lose the weight sigh

Moo at least you know what is wrong now and can dr google all the info you've been given.
People do conceive with PCOS, I'm sure of it!

Had a quick poke and it seems clomid might help. Also getting PG is easier with #2 if you have PCOS (unhelpful, I know!)

If you're taking medications, check with your doctor that none of these are a contributing factor, as if so you'll want to change to an alternative.

Other than that, it's just healthy diet and lifestyle, blah blah.

Chin up, now you can work on improving your fertility. :D

Hi moowoo - sorry to hear it's PCOS - but as far as I know it doesn't necessarily equal infertility - just that you might need to take some steps to help you to conceive so don't let it get you down! And on the plus side, no more unexplained long cycles. Hope those docs get to the bottom of things asap - in lieu of a drink have a

Hi moowoo Sorry that it wasn't great news, don't know much about pcos but at least you have a name now.

I'm sending you as a drink and biscuits are out and hope that you can feel more positive about ttc soon - There used te be a thread with lots of pcos ladies on it and I'm fairly sure that they were taking clomid and getting BFP's

What has the doc said happens now?

festie it doesn't rain but it pours. So sorry you're having such a rough time. My gran went into a house which was hers and allowed her to have her freedom but with people on call if she needed help - there were buzzers around the house for an emergency and people that called in regularly. Hope you get things sorted without too much stress.

count I think you have every right to run away till after christmas, (I would have been having a baby soon after christmas too if it wasn't a chem :() but by the sounds of it your DH is lovely and supportive. Make christmas what you want it to be (even if that is staying home and eating chinese!)

Egg we're not leaving this flight until we get a BFP so don't feel you have to get off if AF does arrive, know it can be though and sometimes you need a break.

rusulka no cbfm for me - I'm an amazon cheapie kind of girl!! (do go[jealous] over them but can't justify the expense)

fx kitchen, let us know what happens

Oh mooley, I thought it might be pcos. As so many others have said, it does have a good prognosis with the right treatment. Clomid should get you ov-ing, for example. Now you're in the system, you'll get to the bottom of it I'm sure!

Thanks for all your advice re my Mum. Unfortunately, I don't have the space to look after her: when dh's kids are staying, we have 3 kids to a (small) room!

She's already in sheltered accomodation with three carers a day and an alarm for emergencies, but she falls over weekly now. I don't see how she could have any more care than she's already getting without being in residential care. We'll have to see what happens. They've found her a space in a care home to convalesce for the next 9 weeks while her arm heals. Then she'll be assessed again (I would think; that's what happened after she broke her hip, anyway)

Sorry, this isn't about ttc, is it? You guys are all so great. I can't think of anybody better to be on this journey with. Xxx

oh festie poor you.... what a rotten run of it you're having. You deserve a BFP in your stocking...

mooley I don't know much about PCOS, only that i have heard lots of people with it get pregnant and have healthy pregnancies and babies so FX for you. Ditto what others have said that now you've got a diagnosis you should be getting the help you need. You've said all along there was something haven't you? Just shows you know your own body.

DS has decided he doesn't like sleeping at night anymore so am consequently EXHAUSTED and off to bed by 9 tonight, LATEST! for sleep, not the other!

Moowoo don't be despairing. You will now be in contact with people who know exactly how to help you get that BFP. That's got to be better than having cycles of epic length and wondering what the hell is going on! Just don't defect totally to the PCOS threads, we need you here too! It must be a big shock and will take a while to get used to, and I bet you'll feel really really angry at fate but we're here for you until you get pregnant!

Festie how awful, you must be feeling super-stressed. What a terrible run of events. I second Liliana, the lady next door to me gets looked after at home. There's a keypad on the front door so she doesn't have to answer the door. If your Mum would prefer that option I'm sure it's possible. I hope the funeral tomorrow goes smoothly, I'll be thinking of you.

Count I'm feeling surprising cheerful despite continued spotting and a terrible day at work. Maybe it's the chocolate I had earlier or the bottle of wine chilling in the fridge (heck, I know I'm not pregnant so why not?). I also just emailed a puppy breeder so that's exciting too.

Liliana I don't think 31 is too old (hope not), it just might take a little bit longer for us than it did our mothers! It's not always possible to start a family when you want one anyway - I was ready at 28 but was in a 6 year relationship with someone who categorically didn't want children, so sadly I had to end the relationship. I just wish I'd met my partner earlier but there's no use crying over spilt milk.

Oh you guys!! Thank you soooooo much! An actually blubbering like a baby at all your kind words!! As you say, I have a diagnosis now, I have had time to let it sink in, it's not the end of the world as its actually quite common (affects 1 in 4 women!!) and don't you worry, I have not the slightest inclination to go hunting down the PCOS thread, you have given me so much hope and support that I don't need to discuss this with anyone else!!

festie really do hope everything gets sorted with your mum, you so deserve some positive news (in the form of a BFP!) and please do not worry that what you said isn't related to TTC, inadvertently it is because the stress of extenuating factors will no doubt have an affect in your cycle!! Will be thinking of you tomorrow!! If you ever need to unload we are all here.....for anything!!

liliana basically have got to have an ultrasound, an appointment with the gynaecologist and lose some weight (apparently that can help but is also a symptom) had wondered why I had been adding the pounds but not actually changing anything in my lifestyle!!

My temp dropped to its lowest ever this moving, dtd tonight......you just never know

count even if your not officially trying, please stick around if only to drop in occasionally to offer your pearls of wisdom.

To you all, thank you so very very much for being here, just could not go through this roller coaster journey without you all!!

moowoo - im just going to echo all the above statements so glad you have named it now shame it and get to that big fat positive for christmas!!!!!
Festie- your in my thoughts and prayers it cant be an easy time and all that stressing aint helping at all! when i lost my mum i felt like i couldnt be happy with her not around then i discovered i was pregnant the shock about it was huge but forced me to shake off and look after my bean now a very active ds! he is my heart right now, he makes me smile even through my tears!!!! my mum would of loved him to bits!!!!!
disco - you have time its beter you moved on and found someone great and you cant think about the past but look to the future and your soon to be bfp!!!!
ilove - good nite!
moowoo - nope im not going anywhere i just cosy i my chair!!!!!!
egg - i also think it would be great if we oldies stay on together when we get our bfp!!!!
lil - yeh cbfm is s nice idea but unless i get it as a christmas pressie i wont be buying it!
kitchen - hows u today ?

well im feeling fine and hopeful for the future.

Morning ladies, how are you all feeling today?

festie - am thinking of you lots today and sending strength to you.

disco did you hit the wine last night?! Must have been hard for you to move on from the r'ship but good for you for going for your dreams.

mooley hope you're feeling okay this morning? have you got a date for the ultrasound?

Count and egg - i would hardly call you guys oldies!!! You're as young as you feel, right? But then i would be about 100 today!

liliana i hope you're not dwelling too much on the chem, it's hard not to i know (as i had one in aug) but FX you'll be knocked up soon.

Anyone else testing soon???

I am going to try to be more relaxed about TTC this month (easier said that done when you're on CD3 i know!!) I really want to enjoy december and all the christmas prep with DS and socialising with friends. I have noticed myself really giving into DS lately and being really soft on him, too soft really and i need to toughen up. I just look at hime and think "well, you might be the only baby i have" and that makes me want to do everything to make him happy. Dangerous territory i know as toddlers need boundaries. Must toughen up.

Turns out not only am i shattered but have a virus too. Sitting here drinking manuka honey water in attempt to feel better for work tomorrow. Read somewhere it's also good for fertility though of course this month i am being relaxed about TTC!

mooley thanks for looking at my chart! Yesterday I had a big blob of eggwhitey mucus. Thought great, as DH has an important test today and probably didn't want to swi, but we managed to dtd! so Fx! Didn't take my temp this morning, as I moved to the guest bed during the night, as DH was snoring and didn't want to keep nudging him.
We'll see how it goes!

Glad you got your diagnosis and keep swi-ing you never know!

Hi all, glad to see lots of positive faces in here still :)

I'm ok today - have tomorrow and Fri off work so really looking forward to that. Work is getting me down at the moment - nothing in particular, I think I just have a lot on my mind out of work (the course I'm doing) so it's mostly to do with not having my mind fully on work and probably a bit about thinking about TTC. I really think if it wasn't for the v generous mat leave here I would be looking elsewhere for jobs as I'm not progressing as fast as I'd like here, but I do have to give it serious consideration :(

Anyway enough moaning! festie I hope all is ok with you today and you're coping ok with your mum.

moowoo glad you're feeling more positive about things - it really is not out of the ordinary (just remembered a couple of my friends have PCOS - it is really common) and there are lots of treatments.

In other news, I'm still enjoying the novelty of POAOS with my CBFM. Still low readings but here's hoping fora change the next couple of days. For those not on the CBFM, ICs are probably all you need but I couldn't help myself wanted some extra reassurance that I am oving and when as ICs probed inconclusive the past couple of months, so hopefully this will fill me in.

Oh, I forgot to mention, I had my first acupuncture sesh last night. Found a community clinic that does a consultation for £20 and further treatments for £15 so it's really affordable :) The woman who did it really listened to all of my health issues and lifestyle, ilness history etc... Not sure exactly what she did with the needles but I felt a fizzy energy rush when she put them in (only hurt for a second like an injection) and felt so relaxed by the end of it. She's working on boosting my general energy levels first and foremost then can look at my cycles so it'll be a few sessions before I notice any effects I think, but so far so good.

hi all - ilove -yeh not old in age but oldie in terms of being on the few thread together and so feel more like old friends!!!!!
festie- thinking of you today!
blue- ohhhhhhhh praying this will be our months one and all!!!!!!
Loulou- glad you enjoyed the getting "needled" treatment!
well im now on cd6 so i will just relax and enjoy!
Moowoo- how you feeling today? yeh im sticking on this thread, not going anywhere!
the worse part of moving remembering to contact everywhere to change postal details!!!! done the important ones but forgot the other ones and now thinking of all the post from tescos, sainsburys etc!!!!
got a hairdressing appt booked for friday for a good pick me up!!!! cant wait!!!!

aaah yes count - we are indeed old friends!

i think i would go mad without you guys to rant at talk to :)

Afternoon all,

Festie how was the funeral? I hope it went OK! Hope your Mum is better soon. I know it is possible to get 24 hour care at home, but I don't know how much it costs, I'm guessing not cheap.

Moowoo As everyone else has said, sorry to hear about the PCOS but at least you can get it sorted now.

Berries am liking the relaxed attitude, long may it last! Hope you feel better soon

Loulou I will be interested to hear whether you think the acupuncture helps, I have considered giving it a try but have not been able to make my mind up so far.

Well I have had a couple of AF type cramps today, so I think that's me out for this month. As Moowoo said a while back, with a luteal phase under 11 days there is not much chance, and as mine is 8 days according to FF I think I am kidding myself that it is even possible. I seem to recall at some point earlier this month I said I liked the 2ww, fool that I am, bloody hate it right now!! Oh well, only 3 more days of waiting to go.

Hi ilove - old pal, old buddy, old friend!!!!!!
Kitchen - ohhhhhhh i hate those feelings and although you want to think positive the signs just dont seem right, but have you thought of maybe testing? you not out until the hag gets you and with her getting so many of us in the last few days mybe she'll just give you and a few others a miss!!!whoop!!!!!!!!!!!!
dearest festie- I pray the day went well and you gave your dear dad a good send off!
i remember my mums funeral, i didnt shed a tear for i was afraid if i started i wouldnt stop! and tried to avoid peoples eyes for i saw the sadness and just wouldnt of been able to cope!!!!my dd wrote a paom that was in the order of service and i nearly lost it!!!!! she lived for her gran kid and spoilt them badly!
it brings me comfort to think my lost babies that didnt make it to earth are with her in heaven and shes so happy with them!!!!

hi disco - heard any thing from the puppy breeder???
blue - how are you feeling with the run up to christmas have you heard any more about the move!
I didnt bring none of the old christmas stuff from the old place and so will have to go out and buy ALL new bits!!!!!!! boooooooooo!!!!!

notinmy - I echo count we have pretty much been all got by the fucking whore hag bitch slag AF this month so i hope she spares you.

I also really hope she spares festie this month as she deserves good news the most.

OK day here - haven't had sex for 2 weeks now... wondering if i'll still remember how to do it.... as oggy showed us, it only takes one time!!

Evening all!!

Berries doc said ultrasound could be 4 weeks away!! But as you said, gonna keep SWI'ing in the meantime!!

festie my thoughts and prayers were with you today! Hope that everything went ok! Also hope your mum is feeling better and is being looked after!

loulou yey for acupuncture!! Glad you have finally found somewhere that's reasonable!! Hope you see the benefits soon!!

Blue glad you managed to get SWI action in :) and that you had the EWCM!!

count just wanted to say hi and hope you get done lovely decorations :)

As for the hag whore she can bloody well fk the fk off!!!

As for me, CM has returned to its normal status temp went from 36.03 yesterday to 36.21 today!! Hope that's a good thing but you just never know!!!

Thanks Count and Berries, sorry to be such a misery, I have given myself a mental slap and decided to eat huge quantities of chocolate ice cream. I shall try to come back with a new, positive attitude tomorrow. I think we are well overdue for a few BFP's, and what better time than in the run up to Christmas, and for those of us not so lucky, there is all that Christmas drinking to enjoy!

notinmy - you weren't being miserable. that's one of the things i like about this thread - that it's okay to say what you feel without people judging :)

Best of luck ladies....

Starting to feel a bit achy now so think AF hag will get me tomorrow right on time.

fingers crossed for you all!

right thats it we are all going to get our well deserved christmas BFP! right i said it here first ( well a few pages ago but you know what i mean)

I'll be honest count I don't think I'll be among those getting an Xmas BFP sadly! Damn PCOS! On CD27 now and not even a hint of ov! Temp dropped down to 36.01 :( feeling rather despondent about it all at the moment!

Fx'd for you all though!! A good ruck of BFPs is what this thread both needs and deserves!!!

Thanks for all your good wishes yesterday. It was a hard day, but it's done now.

My Mum is still in hospital (as far as I know - they change their mind every five minutes) and the plan is for her to go to some kind of care centre, where she'll stay for the next nine weeks while her arm heals. She is going to be utterly pissed off at that. She's lost so many of her faculties; but she's still pretty sharp and very stubborn! Still, she's safe and being looked after, so that's a relief.

Back to the business of TTC! Bizarrely, it looks like I may have missed the boat this month, despite only being on CD 11 and usually ov-ing on CD17. My temp leapt up yesterday and stayed up today. Yesterday's I wasn't sure about, as I had a terrible sleep, and had been up a couple of hours earlier sorting DD.

The confusing thing is - I had no signs of approaching ov! Here's my chart

See what I mean?! DTD hasn't been high on our list of priorities over the last few days, so I think the last time we did was Sat AM. Oh well, nowt I can do about it now!!

Hope you're all well this morning. Thanks again for all your amazing support. You are all marvellous!