July 2012 flight - continued...

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How gutted to log on and find that someone had beaten me to the 1000 post and I couldn't update on the old thread.

Particularly as I got my BFP last night!!! I'd had two BFNs last week and was expecting AF to arrive while on holiday but it never came... Got more and more convinced that I was pg (feeling a bit sick too) as the weekend went on and literally tested within 10 mins of arriving home. Poor DH was still unloading the car as I greeted him at the door with my pink line!

Very excited although a bit apprehensive too. Really want to tell everyone but obviously don't want to this early so am REALLY pleased I have all you lovely ladies on MN to share with.

I was too excited to do more than skim the last few pages on the last thread but did see there had been several other BFPs so congratulations to all those too!

moowoo - do you think it was your body just saying im all "swi' out??????
trust me i have no real answers for i dont ever get that much action in a month or in fertile period!
trust me i dont think having your feet in the air matters i have never done that and still managed to get pregnant, i guess some think it will speed up the process, but has that been proven??????

Morning
moowoo I don't think hanging upside down makes any difference as the good swimmers (which are the ones you want) will get there anyway although I still do it - I have read it is a good idea to lie on your side for a bit with your legs curled up which is more dignified and comfortable!

Feeling like AF is on its way, bit sad but as a teacher July is a bit of a rubbish time to have a baby (don't get me wrong at this point I'll take it anytime!) but to make me feel better maybe I'll get a aug / sept baby so I can start mat leave at the beginning of sept

Have a good day everyone

Great to have you back count! Some people swear the legs in the air thing helps, but I'm not so sure. I think probably staying horizontal for a bit probably helps, rather than jumping straight up, put a pillow under your bum perhaps? But legs in the air?! Probably not necessary!

Not sure about the stabbing pains. Was it in the cervical area? Cos if your cervix is low and DH is, ahem, long; that can cause discomfort in that area. Some positions (such as DS) are deeper too aren't they, so are more likely to cause discomfort. As Count says though; is it just too much SWI?!!! :o

Well I've had a day of AF and now a couple of days spotting, so it seems confirmed that last month was an-ov. The month before, (after another an-ov cycle) AF was strange with (ugh -yucky TMI coming up - sorry!) bits of skin and egg-whitey stuff in, so I wonder if my body's been clearing everything after the m/c. So I'm crossing fingers that this is a typical breakthrough bleed after an an-ov cycle due to all the stress and upset of my Dad's death, and next month things will get back to normal!

Amazing how much more positive we all feel once we're at the beginning of a shiny new cycle, isn't it?! Hope you are all well this morning, and those of you at near the end of the 2ww who've feeling despondent have some amazing news soon to make it all better! :o

Morning all!! Yes I agree that the legs in the air thing is a waste of time just glad that you all agree! I do tend to lie flat on my back or curl up for some cuddles with DH immediately after which is nice.

The cramps were high in my tummy, so not cervix related at all! Was very bloated yesterday afternoon for some unknown reason so I wonder if it was something to do with that, woke up with a tummy ache at 5:00am and still have it now (not as bad though) and I am very gassy (i could clear a room at the moment!!). Maybe I have eaten something that didn't agree with me!

Temp dipped again this morning!! Darn it!!! But just going to plod on.

Festie sorry that you had another an-ov cycle, but like you say, it is most likely your body sorting everything out. Plus the stress and strain you have been under lately has probably added to it!! The fact AF was so short and probably not normal for you does all point to this!! I know what you mean about feeling positive at the start of a new cycle!! On CD19 now and starting to lose the will, especially if my cycles are still not going to settle down!! Should hopefully have the results from my blood tests soon so maybe that can shed some light on the matter!!

Hope everyone has a good day - will check in later

Festie - fingers crossed that your body will resume a good cycle so you can get back in there a TRY,TRY,TRY whoopppppp!
Lili- You dont know until she shows right!!!!!! but i have that feeling and most months she comes and knocks me off my "im pregnant high box" hope its not!
Moowoo - sorry for the temp drop!!!!! have you though of getting the cbfm maybe that may be a better way instead of temping and the ups & downs of it all, maybe you think because you dont know when it will happen that it maybe a waste of money but i do hear all good things from them!
i want to look on amazon but dread the parcel coming and DH gets to it first he is like a child and will open it! i know he will prefer the " let it be" way of doing things while i may now be looming towards the i def want it to happen now! ????????????

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hello count welcome back :)
"water damage" they tried that with me too - cheapskates! i am glad you managed to get it replaced!

Well i have been sobbing since about 5am when i woke up and took my temp and no rise from yesterday... to make matters worse i then decided to POAS (i know i know, i was the one questioning why people test early..... i don't know what came over me). Of course i got a BFN. AF not due till sun/mon but it was a FR test so according to the leaflet it is 75-85% accurate at this time so i'm taking that as me out for this month. Am literally devastated. I know it sounds silly as people go through SO much worse but I really thought we had done it this month. It doesn't help that i am having a really crap time at work too so a mat leave would be the perfect escape.

The plus side is that DH is being wonderful about it and it's making me appreciate DS even more than ever.

festie i do agree that starting a new cycle brings positivity so just thinking about that.

I fell asleep last night at 8.45 and was so convinced the tiredness was due to being pregnant. I feel like such a mug that it's not. And the horrible thing is i feel like i have no-one to talk to. My close friends are all single/not ready for kids yet and my mum friends are all (literally all) pregnant with number 2. I was invited on a christmas night out with them all and they made a big laugh of the fact berries is "so lucky as she'll be the only one who can drink on the christmas night out". I swear i heard my heart ache. Of course none of them know we are TTC so they weren't being insensitive. I'm sure they would be mortified if they knew.

I can talk to DH and he is great but it's not quite the same is it....

Anyway, sorry for the depressing post - i just wanted to get it out......

Hi count good to have you back! :) jep ttc while moving is extremely stressful, still don't have a moving date though :(

managed to get DH to do some SWI yesterday :)
My cycle is confusing me again though, I'm on CD 24, but don't think I've ov'd yet, I thought I had egg-white CM but not sure now... normally I have it very obviously. Maybe it's all the stress that is messing my cycle up... anyone want to have a look? my chart

hang around for a bit tinkerbell - mooley will come take a look at your chart!!

Can you all please join me in big BOOOO HISSSSS? My AF arrived this morning :(

I'm only a little bit gutted as I haven't really had many symptoms to spot - apart from cramps last week - what the hell were those?!

It also means that I can use my cleablue monitor - hurrah! Didn't realise you had to use FMU so couldn't do it this morning but will start tomorrow.

I'm a bit torn about whether to take a break from TTC as my sis is getting married next August so being either heavily preggers or with newborn would not be ideal. However, my gut says to carry on TTC as who knows how many chances we'll get. Any thoughts people? I'm not being terribly selfish am I?

Berries this is not the end of the road!! I don't think those FR tests are really that great - lots of tests are a higher sensitivity; cheaper and don't sell themselves as extra early tests. Maybe try a superdrug one in a couple of days if you're still SS? They are cheaper and I think as - if not more - effective.

Even this is not your month, don't give up! It must be horrible with all those preg ladies around you - it's bad enough for me with a couple of DP's friends' (totally unappreciative) partners preg so I feel your pain. But really, try not to pressure yourself - it'll happen when your body's ready for it.

If AF does turn up, I say you should plan an xmas night out with your single friends and make the most of being un-pregnant before it happens :) Also, if you're getting worked up TTC, could you do something like exercise or acupuncture as a stress reliever?

Keep talking to us anyhow, that's what were all here for :)

p.s. moowoo def can't be doing with all that legs in the air stuff - I'm too impatient. I can just about lying still for a few mins then I'm up for a wee

thanks berries

loulou don't think about your sisters wedding when ttc... something can happen and she might not get married ( I know worst case scenario) when you are pregnant or have a newborn you will find nearer the time what to do! not selfish at all! oh and BOO for AF but hurray for Clearblue monitor!

loulou you are so sweet. I am actually welling up at how people i have never met can be this nice. Thanks :)

i have just bought some of these tests (below) as i have a hen do on saturday and if AF isn't here (due sun/mon) then i shall go out and drink like a fish and dance like a teenager

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20-x-ULTRA-EARLY-10mIU-PREGNANCY-TTC-STRIP-TEST-KITS-/140551433664?pt=UK_Health_HealthCare_RL&hash=item20b984adc0

I don't know if they are any good but they were cheap! and testing early is like a drug.... now i've done it once i just want to do it again. but i will hold off till saturday.

A night out is a brilliant idea. My 2 closest girlfriends are single and know i am TTC and are amazing about knowing when to say what - they just get it right every time - so i am sure they'd be up for a night out :)

Exercise is a MUST. I am really lame. Naturally slim and generally prefer healthy food so i am pretty healthy but useless at exercising. I need to get on it.

DH has just texted to tell me he's cancelled his night out so he can come home and give me hugs. I must take a top from the count and count my blessings.

loulou boooooo hiiiissssssssssssss to your AF turning up. At least being on a similar cycles next month's 2WW will be over by christmas so we'll know if we can hit the festive bubbly or not :)

I feel like such a wuss. thanks for being nice to me!

take a tip from the count, not a top, dont think i should steal from fellow MNers!

sorry, was being a bit self obsessed and forgot to comment on sis wedding loulou... It depends.... and here's my honest opinion

Are you a bridesmaid? Would you cycle mean that you could miss the wedding? I don't think you should worry about going heavily pregnant or with a newborn (i was at weddings up to 38 weekspg with DS and again when he was 4 weeks/6weeks/10 weeks old... a glut of weddings!) BUT the first 4 weeks of my DS' life there is NO WAY i could have gone anywhere (physically!) You and your DP are both young and healthy so if it were me i would suss out the dates and anticipate being able to attend wedding up to 35 weeks pg and once baby is 4 weeks. If it means you have to miss a month or 2 of TTC then i would do that. BUT I don't think it's selfish if you choose not to, just that you might be upset to miss the family occasion and your sis might be upset too, esp if you will be a bridesmaid.... tricky one but completely your call and i don't think it's selfish either way :)

count I can't use the CBFM because my cycles are too long :(

To be honest the EOD seems to be going ok at the moment!! Feeling a little more positive!! If we SWI EOD and I still get AF then I will come to the conclusion that I'm not ov'ing!!

Ahh that's nice of your DP berries :) And it's good that you have a couple of friends who know you're TTC - the hen do will be a good way to end the week :)

I think I'm in need of a night out too. Off for a weekend in London next weekend - typically my ov is estimated from that Saturday and DP is out drinking that day too. It's always when I'm not around!! Going to go for it a couple of days before to ensure there are spermies waiting.

Yep, I'm pleased I won't have to wait till after xmas to test again. I think I might book myself in for an acupuncture sesh or two before then. I also have a few other issues that could do with sorting out (dodgy skin, migraines and sinuses) blatant excuse for hoping they can get me up the duff asap - has anyone else used acupuncture? Know what to ask/look for in a practitioner?

Thanks blue - that's what my gut was telling me - just gonna plough on through. Afraid I am no good at all with charting (hence buying CBFM to do it for me!) - but I'm sure moowoo or someone else will be able to shed some light.

there's a CBFM thread too loulou so you can come and join! i haven't posted on there since BFN as as the moment it's a nice positive place!

ooh what's it called berries - have seen a couple so don't want to get on the wrong one.

Just enquired about acupuncture consultation - taking action definitely makes you feel better :)

it's called 'anyone new to the cBFM?" i don't know how to insert the link - sorry, not very good with technology apart from the CBFM!

Teehee, cool will take a look

Sounds like everyone's been busy!

Loulou I agree with berries. Maybe work out some dates and steer clear if you have to, although babies never come on time, do they? They're either early or late- how would that affect dates? And then would you end up leaving ttc for months on end?
Hmm. Your decision either way.

Berries I know exactly how you feel. Worked up to half term at a school where a member of staff I worked with every day was waving her pregnancy in my face. Rrah! And as far as friends go, I only have the one really good friend, and as I moved away to live with DH, she lives in Norfolk while I live in Kent and I get to see her maybe once a month or every two months. She knows we're trying and always asks how we're doing, but really I have nobody to talk to regularly apart from you ladies. DH gets saturated with all the talk and just feels the pressure to perform even more, and although SiL is sympathetic, she's not at that stage in her life yet (and is a good 7 years younger than me) so she doesn't understand really. Hurray for this thread!

On the leg sticking-uppage front, I can't! I never was that gymnastic, and I can't even do a handstand any more, I'm too fat. (boo)
So after SWI I clean up the mess, then lay with DH and have a cuddle. I usually lie on my back, but if I want to snuggle into him properly I have to lie on my left side, which I did the other day. Then I got an image of all the sperm heading for the wrong fallopian tube, and said "I have to change sides!" and swapped. Then laid on my back too. So either they got everywhere or I just swilled them back and forth and made them seasick.

Feeling a bit hopeless about ttc this month, DH is sick (came home from work early yesterday) so no SWI. I normally OV around now or in the next couple of days, so I'm hoping for action tonight but don't feel too positive.
Looking back through my diary, in July when we thought we'd done it, but then it all went horribly wrong, we'd managed to SWI every day from days 10-14, and 16.
Kind of feel like we need to do that again or we won't get there. Unfortunately we were both on holiday at the time, and DH doesn't have any more time owed this year, so it's not looking good.

Also my POAOS sticks gave me strong lines on days 11 & 12, when it's usually days... oh. now I feel silly! Checked back through diary and on various months it's been 11 & 12, 12 & 13, 11,12, & 13, 13 & 14... Hmm.

Well we've still only managed it on days 8 & 12 which doesn't fill me with hope.
Better update FF, as I thought they were just pee sticks going crazy and not proper results.

MUST TRY HARDER!

Rant over now...

oh rusulka it is hard moving to a new area isn't it.... i know there is a 'meeting people' section on mumsnet but not sure if that'll just be filled with people who have babies already and that will not be what you want!!

It sounds like you know when you're oving so can do it at the right time (sickness permitting).

Feel free to rant at us anytime though, i do feel a bit better than this morning and it was much cheaper than therapy!!

leg sticking - i do it..... i figure it keeps it in that way. (probably doesn't make any difference but i did it when DS was conceived)

also means there's no mess on the sheets and i can't be doing with changing the bed sheets EOD aswell as SWI EOD!!!

Hi rusulka - maybe focus on dosing DH up so you can take advantage of him later/tomorrow mehehehe

As for the wedding - sorry I didn't see a couple of messages up thread.. yes I am a bridesmaid - it's mid aug so bang on very late preg if we conceived this cycle. Talked to DP this morning and we decided to not specifically try this month (ie avoid most fertile days but not use contraception) then continue TTC next cycle.

It'll also give me a chance to have a few acupuncture sessions and get to grips with my CBFM. Also Ov in December is right over Christmas weekend I think, so that suits me :) When are they going to put xmas emoticons up here? I want an xmas tree or reindeer!

good call loulou - though i imagine it'll be hard to resist having a cheeky SWI when you see the peak symbol on your CBFM!!!

okay so how does the CBFM work? seriously thinking about buying one I bet if I do I will be pregnant and not need it!
I'm seriously torn about either chucking all tests out of the window and just swi when I think I might be most fertile or need something more professional to see when I am most fertile, IYSWIM?