TTC/ pregnancy on Prednisolone or similar part 2

[Arianrhod]

Starting up part 2 of this thread since the old one closed at 1000 posts!

iggi lots of luck for today, hope it's nothing - I know it doesn't help but I know lots of women have spotting and/or bleeding in pregnancy and it still goes ok. Definitely call the EPU, get scanned - it's worth it, honestly, at least you will know one way or another. Virtual hugs coming your way.

free I also started AF properly this morning, so looks like we may be both importuning a friendly witch for a good fertility spell on Hallowe'en? I know exactly what you mean about the scary stuff ... a small part of me was actually sort of relieved when I didn't get a BFP purely because it means I don't have to go through the whole worrying about miscarrying all over again. Bizarre, but there it is.

and hooray for comedy :) !!

Fabulous news comedy, love to hear of another good scan! :)

I agree battery. I checked the back of OH's Wellman Conception pills and they had pretty much everything she suggested and i suspect the Pregnacare does too (I've not been upstairs to check). Might just start slipping OH some of my Omega 3s - although the ones I have do also contain Omega 6 so not sure if that's a problem now or not. They were the only vegetarian ones I could find. I saw you asked some of the questions I wanted to ask too about womb lining - that was you wasn't it? She was pretty vague.

comedy, that's wonderful news. Good for you!

Wonderful news comedy!

And happy birthday duggs. Sorry, I forgot to say that before.

Kittens, I may have completely misunderstood what you need, but if you need any pred to tide you over i've got some I can send you. Or is it just a question of knowing what your new regime will consist of?

Thanks coconut, it was the second point that was my concern yes. ari has calmed me down with the information that everyone takes 25mg from ov regardless of levels. I have those so as long as I can get my new prescription when I need to that's ok. Phew.

Kittens - glad your panic is over! Ari is definitely correct on only the 40mg from BFP.

Comedy - congratulations on the scan! So is that 5 days bigger then? - wow!

Free - i haven't had too many symptoms. Last pregnancy I was knackered already, but I don't have that tiredness yet (remember, I'm not on the pred either so it's not like any tiredness would be masked). I do have sore boobs, although have done since dpo2 which could be down to the cyclogest and feel a bit more hungry than usual. I've had no more bleeding since Monday (touch wood) and I only had cramping for one day that I think was about dpo7 which was the day after I suspected implantation (niggly feeling in uterus which lasted less than a day).

With the intralipids I can't get it done in my home. I think i may well be the first person in the country to have had intralipids for this reason so I had to get admitted to hospital to get it done! It was actually more like checking into a 5 star hotel for a few hours though, so i am not complaining and I did get to watch Come Dine With Me for several hours. My Dh bought the intralipids from the hospital pharmacy as he did not trust them to still have it reserved for me in 4 weeks time!

Interesting that Dr S is now saying first scan should be 7 weeks. I think that makes so much more sense. I will be going for a scan 6 wks 5 days on 6th Dec. If things go well, I then plan on one at 9 weeks and 11 weeks as I feel I want one very close to the 12 week scan as I will be very very nervous for that one as that's when I found out it had gone wrong last time after seeing a kicking, twirling baby at 9.5 weeks last time.

Can i do a check on the supplements we are taking:

vitamin D (25mcg??)
prenatal mulit vits
omega 3
aspirin (80mg)
folic acid

am i missing anything?

Someone asked about thickening womb linings - I might be wrong but i thought i read somewhere (maybe BC) about someone being prescribed viagra to help with womb lining.

Is anyone still continuing with acupuncture? I had a session the other day and have been advised to have it weekly until 12 weeks, then see how i go. It felt a lot more intense this time, with lots of buzzing in my legs.

Woo hoo comedy that's fab news !!!
The same happened to me, I went for my 12 week scan and they brought my original date of 17th march forward to 10th march, it had grown 4 weeks in the space of 3 ( since I came off the pred at 9 weeks !) xx

Morning ladies ... well, line still just as faint this morning, this is 14dpo/AF due day. So I asked the nurse for an hCG test as well as the thyroid tests when I was in the surgery this morning; they agreed to do it, but said the results won't be in until at least Monday afternoon, possibly Tuesday afternoon :( I have to go in again Monday morning for the second hCG test but of course the result for that won't be in until at least Tuesday afternoon, possibly Wednesday afternoon. By which time of course it could all have sorted itself out. I wish the NHS would do these things quicker!

cheerful those supplements look right to me, and I'm still doing acupuncture - my acupuncturist said I should come in weekly too, until at least 12 weeks. I had a session the same day as the intralipids (arm is still hurting from that :( ) and every single needle felt like someone was putting an electric shock through me! The acupuncturist said my body would have gone into mild shock from the intralipids, because it hurt so much and for so long, so my body was sort-of on "pain alert". Nice :)

/waves to everyone, hope you're all doing great this morning?

Btw TTC chaps, if anyone's interested a double pack of First Response tests is only £6.60 on Amazon at the moment, bargain!

Yay Comedy fab news! :)

Hello everyone else! Ari how you doing? Keep smiling :)

Someone asked about scan dates - My first scan's booked for 3 Dec assuming all still looks well at that point (yes slap me now!). That would will be 6+2, poss not enough to see anything? Didn't see more than a sac at dead on 6wks before.

Felt awful last night. Out for work and had a couple of diet cokes and some chips and thought I was gonna throw up by the time I got home. V dizzy and nauseous. Not had that before was horrible! Maybe my stomach was too empty and with nothing to do it thought its have some fun? Forced down some cereal with the vits and aspirin and felt better. Got indigestion cramps this morning which is also fun. Odd bit of achy back too but I get that at times anyway.

I don't feel pg as such but keep telling myself I shouldn't expect to with the Pred - but can at least say I'm officially late now as af was due yesterday. Little steps...

Hello everyone,

Hope you are well ..just on the test kits ari that is a good price and on the point just ordered myself some more pregnacare with omega 3 and boots are 14.99 and a few places a couple of pounds cheaper but I have mine coming from Amazon today for £6.13 with free p+p! I know the high st has overheads to pay but that mark up is a joke. Moan over.

I have the cheap One step sticks -they are great for obsessive testing and one cb digi preg test left so will try not to waste that one by testing too early.

My pred experience so far is not too bad. Sunday when I took first one was weird, heart racing and shortness of breath and 3 hrs sleep but body seems to have got over shock and sleep since then not too bad if I take the tab before 8am. In fact sleep is quite deep actually apart from waking up at 5.30ish most days then dosing off again. DS didn't help by waking at 5.30 as well and playing with the alarm on repeat!

ari i feel for you having to wait till next week try to keep yourself busy sweetie.x
comedy I bet you are feeling good after your scan, well done.
kittens glad your feeling easier for now, you don't need that stress on top of everything else.

I am 7dpo today and don't know what to do with myself iykwim. It's that finger tapping stage. You just can't help with the symptom spotting, it's impossible when you been prgegnant that many times. You are tuned into everything. Sometimes I wish I could unscrew my head and put it somewhere else!!

Thanks for asking choccy ... I'm not smiling at all, truth be told my heart is breaking, yet again. But I'm trying to put a smile on my face, don't want to pull everyone else around me down. I'm rather used to the false front by now, as I'm sure everyone here relates to.

choccy I have to say, you might have felt awful but it's a very good sign. Yay for feeling cr@ppy :)

snoopy Mr S told me that your body does get used to the pred, maybe you've adjusted well already? That finger-tapping stage, it's almost as bad as waiting for actual OV, if you ask me! And if you find a way to unscrew your head, please please tell me, I definitely need some way to turn my mind off!!

Oh Ari, I'm so sorry to hear that things are no clearer for you today. How frustrating that you have to wait so long for the results. Have you got anything distracting planned for the weekend to help it pass any quicker? The limbo state is just painful isn't it. My fingers are tightly crossed for you that the outcome is a good one.

Battery You asked about the clexane injections. I try to alternate sides but do still find that one side is less painful than the other one for some reason. I had some horrible bruising at the beginning and I think I may have been injecting a bit too high up. Since I've been doing it lower down (level with belly button or slightly below) it seems better. Although it could just be that my technique has improved slightly.

Afternoon everyone :)

coconut - It wasn't me asking - it was choccy I think. I do inject though (when pg) and agree with you - I go for anywhere that is not bruised, some days that means injecting on the same side a couple of days in a row. Don't inject on the belt line though - and don't rub it after! Or you will bruise like hell!
kittens I found the forum a bit annoying really. All the questions we asked - she just replied 'I cover that in my 12 week programme'...... It was me asking about the lining but she didn't answer. I also asked her about stress following your question to prompt her into answering you. The way forward?....eat sprouts apparantly!
ari That is annoying for you. But today you are pregnant until someone says otherwise. I do get annoyed when practices say they won't get the results for a few days - at my practice they can get them back the same day or the day after if they ring for them. I realise not every practice is the same though.
snoopy I hate being in the middle of the 2ww - it drives me mad!
charlie I was asking about womb lining - I have heard that about viagra but I don't think I can persuade my gp to prescribe viagra!!

Hope everyone else is ok - and gearing up for the weekend :)

We have had a log burner fitted and we are having its first lighting tonight :)

battery we just had our chimney/flue swept yesterday and used the log burner for the first time, it was absolutely fabulous. I love a real fire anyway, and the amount of heat this thing kicked out was unbelievable. Enjoy your new-found warmth! :)

ari I will if I can peel the cat away from in front of it! She seems to have clicked on what its for and has taken up residence in front of it with a look that says 'move me if you dare'

Not me with the clexane don't (want to) know about injections luckily f

Wtf??? Fecking iPhone.

Ahem

Meant to say "blah blah blah... Luckily for me. "

Co ordination is shite today- is that another symptom I should be happy about??!

TFIF!

Oh, Sorry Battery. And sorry it was to whoever asked!!

Log burner sounds great. We've just got a normal open fire. I'd definitely think about getting a burner installed in our next place if we've got the space.

log burners are brilliant! we put one i when we did the house last yr and they chuck out so much heat, OH and i sit there with ruddy faces most nights sweating! And it def brings out their caveman instincts of needing to light fires...he just can't stop fiddling or poking it!

cocnut it's ok - I got it wrong too :) it was brownie - I have my Friday brain on.

snoopy I know - DP can not wait to light the thing....all week I have heard ' I can't wait to light the fire' over and over and over .....:)

battery My DP was vaguely offended that I got to light the fire after the chimney sweep had been yesterday while he wasn't in the house. DD asked him this morning if he knew how to light the fire, he had to say he didn't as he's never done it before, to which she cutely said "Oh I know how you do it" and proceeded to explain to him exactly how it's done (we'd talked about it yesterday). So cute, coming from a 4-year-old girl to a 49-year-old bloke!

Loving the idea of the wood burners! So cosy for winter.

Comedy that is amazing news about the scan! Such a milestone.

Puree it is so good to hear that you had cramps etc with successful pregnancy. Any other folk with tales of cramps and weird feelings do keep them coming, so us first timers have something positive to compare to!

Cheerful, yes the vitamin list seems spot on. I added Selenium this time. Not sure why really, just thought I would give it a go. Good you have your scan dated sorted. Maybe we should start putting our scan dates into the list?

Choccy and others, I am with you about not feeling pregnant. I have some mild cramping this morning. And then when I do feel something I of course start mentalling. I have a mild bit of nausea later in the daytime at the moment.


I am trying to sort out a scan by email now. I know he likes to see us first at week 6/7 but I really can't face that whole round of inconclusive scans again. I think I would rather wait until week 7 and if I don't see anything then I will assume it is all definitely going wrong again. That's if it doesn't obviously go wrong before that! Week 6 is w/c28th and week 7 is w/c 5th Dec. It doesn't feel like much fun being Pregnant Me at the moment. Real Life Me however is having a lot of fun, so I guess I can't complain. Actually went out last night with my brother and his girlfriend to a really swish Sushi place in Hollywood. All cooked of course for me. Then we went to the Sky Bar at the Mondrian. All very lovely and was pleased to stay up until midnight (jetlag finally going).

Ari - Battery and the others are right. You have no reason to think this pregnancy is going wrong yet and see how many other people have got faint lines and gone on to have babies! I would probably be with you actually, if I had had another stick to pee on, but being here in the states I haven?t had any more and just used that one faint one too. But we are pregnant! Whether we will stay that way or not is another thing of course.

Snoopy yes it can be madness going over all the 2ww symptoms can?t it!! I think I can definitely tell now, when I am getting pregnant, but always tell myself I am imagining things. But there are certain things you just can?t imagine ? feelings and movements you just don?t get when you are not being impregnated. I too think we get used to the Pred. And 40mg never seems to make it particularly worse. On that subject, I hope you get your info Kittens about what the treatment change might be, but the others are right the 40mg only kicks in at a BFP so you will be ok for a couple of weeks.

CD32 for me today, or technically 4.3 based on a CD29 BFP. Aggh! Such a head f*ck this whole thing.

Hey free .. great to hear you're having fun, is the weather good over there too? Wonder what sushi's called if it's cooked?! :)

Mmm yes, I hear what you're saying, but you know when you get that feeling that something isn't right? The very fact that my hCG should be doubling at a rate of knots, but the test lines are getting no stronger at all, just tells me without any shadow of a doubt that things ain't what they should be. If I'd just got the one faint stick, on 11dpo, then ok that doesn't mean very much at all. But 3 days later and the line is exactly as faint - well, that means quite a bit for me. I know some ladies don't get strong lines on pregnancy tests at all, but I usually do. I know you're right, I should wait and see, but I'm resigned to the worst. I'm already planning my next OV, believe it or not, bought some more OV sticks and all! Not sure if that means I am a complete mental case, probably does :)

It is a complete head-f*ck, you're not wrong there!

Hope everyone's got a fun weekend planned ... I have a feeling I'm either going to be painting the dining room walls (it's actually for me, I have bookcases waiting to go up but DP won't have it until the walls are painted) or else tearing apart the previous owner's carefully crafted vegetable plot. I feel a wee bit bad about it - although, in line with the rubbish domesticity, I am no gardener! - but DD's Christmas trampoline is going there, so it has to be done. Not my idea of fun, but the end results are worth it. Hmm ... much like this treatment lark, methinks! So what are you all up to??