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TTC/ pregnancy on Prednisolone or similar part 2

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Arianrhod · 18/10/2011 09:55

Starting up part 2 of this thread since the old one closed at 1000 posts!

iggi lots of luck for today, hope it's nothing - I know it doesn't help but I know lots of women have spotting and/or bleeding in pregnancy and it still goes ok. Definitely call the EPU, get scanned - it's worth it, honestly, at least you will know one way or another. Virtual hugs coming your way.

free I also started AF properly this morning, so looks like we may be both importuning a friendly witch for a good fertility spell on Hallowe'en? I know exactly what you mean about the scary stuff ... a small part of me was actually sort of relieved when I didn't get a BFP purely because it means I don't have to go through the whole worrying about miscarrying all over again. Bizarre, but there it is.

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Cheerfulcharlie · 19/10/2011 19:36

Hi everyone. I was on your previous thread for a while. I am going to start TTC this cycle (probably ovulate early Nov) although technically I shouldn't be on this thread as I have decided not to do the pred, although I will do the intralipids. I hope I'm not going to end up kicking myself over this decision, but it's not one I've taken lightly.

I'm going to have a catch up read with everyone's news now...

ChoccyPud · 19/10/2011 19:52

Yay Comedy fantastic news!! Not the public vomiting part obv...

Thanks everyone for the maximum of 14 days advice. I'm not sure I could bear the effects of the Pred for longer than this anyway if there wasn't a good reason.

Hope everyone else is well.

Stogan · 19/10/2011 20:26

Yey comedy and Iggi xxx????

digitalgirl · 19/10/2011 22:08

iggi fantastic news that all is measuring well. Understand it's difficult to be happy after everything you've been through - but hold on to these good moments. And, just a thought, if your bleeding is caused by constipation - wasn't sure which 'end' you were sticking the cyclogest in, but if it's the back end maybe try the front end for a while till the constipation eases up. Plenty of water etc etc. From what I hear it's pretty common to get small tears or fissures that can bleed quite dramatically. My friend was complaining of having to use suppositories for 5 whole days to help heal her sore bottom. I told her I'd been popping bullets up there since 4 weeks...
Are you still going for the scan on Friday?
Oh and I had my booking in at 10 weeks - was totally surreal. I couldn't believe the MW was asking me if I intended to breastfeed and where I would like to give birth! Was so odd, but I think I wrote on here that it was actually quite an affirming experience in the end. It was good to talk to someone who actually thought my pregnancy might end up as a baby.

comedy very glad to hear your good news too! Are you back for another next week or in two weeks? And a vom to celebrate, how very pregnant of you!

free wow - managing to resist a whole plate of biscuits. That is quite a feat (well for me it is). Sorry to hear it feels like your whole body is turning inside out, but the purging is good. Bet you'll feel so much lighter after AF has packed up.

ari I was going to say ask kittens about how the pred affected her AF...but she's beaten me to it! From my personal experience of one cycle of pred followed by AF it wasn't really affected. My luteal phase was at it's longest of 16 days but it's usually 15-16 anyway. The only time I've had a very light period was years ago when ttc#1 - I had an annovulatory bleed which is not a real period but when you have breakthrough bleeding at the 'end' of a cycle after not ovulating. It was brought on by acupuncture after I had failed to ovulate by day 35.

stogan wow - proper movements! I've been suspecting a couple of flutters myself, but really not sure as it's so early. Yet, if I don't feel them I worry, even though they might not even be actual baby movements - so I could be worrying about not having wind. Best of luck for Friday - are you going to find out the sex? (sorry everyone must be asking you that...I've been getting that now and it's driving me potty)

battery don't blame you for 'sinning' I pretty much fell out of love with all my meds on this second cycle and stopped taking the metformin and aspirin for a while. Re-started taking the met a few days post-ov and felt nauseas because of it. Remembered to start taking the aspirin at 9dpo - which was lucky as I got a bfp on 12dpo. I kept up with the vitamins though - didn't mind taking those. Glad to hear you're all stocked up and ready for this cycle!

kittens good luck with your Dr S appointment next week. And I really really hope you get your bfp soon, even though it means The Fear.

Even though I've come out and appear to be making happy conversation re: pregnancy and The Baby, I'm still a gibbering wreck on the inside. Really thought I'd managed to get over most of The Fear, but unfortunately its still there. Every little twinge and cramp makes me wonder if I'm really still pregnant. I'm desperate to be optimistic about this and sometimes I genuinely am (like my positive posts on here) but I still can't shake this bloody doom-mongering feeling off. Maybe it will go after the 20 week scan. Or maybe the 24th week. It's just bloody hard work having to STILL manage these feelings. I rarely mention stuff to DH because I know they're my worries and not his, but I do worry.

Well, for all you ladies who seem to be synchronising cycles - the very best of luck to you. It's going to be an exciting 4 weeks [hgrin]. Which of you are going to be charting? I want some charts to stalk! I know battery and free are thinking about it...

oh and scooter any news? [hsmile]

iggi999 · 19/10/2011 22:17

Great news Comedy Smile
And wise advice as always Digi Grin
Hope you get the reassurance you need this week too.

Stogan · 20/10/2011 06:50

Hey digi, u sound exactly like me everytime I roll over on bed and get a slight twinge I think I've ruined everything, what are we like !!!
Not finding out sex unfortubatelySad I really want to but OH doesn't and all our family said they don't want to know so guess I'll have to wait, OH said if I don't know it will give me motivation in labour ha ha, I think getting the pain over with will be motivation enough !!
Hopefully when we go baby will be facing u's with it's legs wide open so we will find out by "accident" lol Grin

Keep trying to think positive hunni, it's our time now xxx??

ChoccyPud · 20/10/2011 07:56

Another BFN so admitting defeat for this month. On the upside, if af doesn't turn up today I might get some tonight just for fun Wink

Does anyone else find it's feast/famine much of the time, going from swi for the hot period to nada for fear of damaging chances of implantation/whatever?

Lots of good news to keep us all positive though. Looking forward to joining in the mass ttc in the next couple of weeks or so! [hwink]

Arianrhod · 20/10/2011 08:59

Morning ladies! Well AF was in full flow yesterday, so turns out it was just the first day was different to usual. I can cope with that.

Choccypud I have to say my interest in the old bedroom tango varies wildly right now, which is a bit rubbish for my OH unfortunately. I'm not liking this having to DTD specifically for several days around the "hot period" (love the term :) ), I prefer the spontaneous approach, but obviously TTC demands otherwise. But generally I find I have little interest right now, I think it may well be extreme tiredness/effects of meds etc - my poor body (and brain) has just had enough of the whole thing. Like I say, my poor OH :( I'm hoping 'normal service' will kick in very soon, for his sake if nothing else!!

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freelancegirl · 20/10/2011 13:17

Hello y'all. Way too much to do again for a big post. Wanted to say welcome back to Cheerful! Of course we want you to hang around even though you're not taking the Pred. I can completely understand not taking it. Intralipids must do the same job anyway. Did you know I was on a new treatment too? Additional treatment I should say. It's my second day and so far so good - still got to take the Pred and intralipids as per usual on ovulation and then whenever I get a BFP.

So relieved to hear scans are going well. iggi I hope you're feeling a bit better. Comedy that is indeed brilliant news too.

Talking of vomiting, I am feeling a tiny bit off my food on these new drugs. Hurrah! Maybe I will lose a few pounds before I hit the Pred again imminently.

Love the idea of MASS TTC Choc, Ari Grin and all who are going to sail with us. Well, virtually not in real life of course ...

Battery, Kittens, Stogan and everyone else, glad you found us again!

Digi I am glad you are starting to, at least outwardly, have a few positive moments about the baby. Yes baby! Hopefully you will have every reason to continue doing so. Yes I think I am going to chart, just need to remember to start taking temps in a few days. I am calling today CD3 so not long till I have to start. Aghhhh!

Ovulation ETA is around the 1st Nov - anyone else...?

Coconutfeet · 20/10/2011 14:57

Yay I found you all! This is a quick one as I'm having a really busy day, but I just wanted to say congratulations to Iggi and Comedy for the good scans. Grin at the celebration barf afterwards Comedy. Are you feeling really rough?

Comedy - Were you at New Life yesterday? I was there too having intralipids and an appointment with Mr S. He scanned me again, and all is well so far (11+1).

I'm hugely relieved as my GP has agreed to give me Clexane on the NHS. She balked a bit at the price but came good in the end. I also discovered that they messed up sending off the paperwork for my booking in appointment and nuchal scan. I'd been chasing the hospital for ages about the appointment but no-one had bothered to call me back to say that they didn't have any paperwork for me, despite promising that they would on many occasions. So the GP has had to redo all the forms and I had to take it to the hospital myself to be sure that they had it.

Freelance - Really glad the new meds are agreeing with you.

Sorry to hear about all the BFNs too. Fingers crossed for you all for the next cycle.

Arianrhod · 20/10/2011 15:35

Yay Coconut, another good scan, I love it! And fab news your GP has come through on the Clexane, it all helps, right? What's the Clexane for, do you mind me asking? I should know, I know, but brain is blank right now.

free yup OV ETA is 1st Nov for me, hence importuning a friendly witch on Hallowe'en for a decent fertility spell Grin Yes I know that should be Beltane really, not Hallowe'en, but sssshhh if you don't tell, I won't.

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digitalgirl · 20/10/2011 15:58

stogan same here, I think I'm actually quite keen to know the sex, but DH doesn't want to. It really is up to me at the end of the day as I'm doing all the hard work - but I think I'd quite like to surprise everyone on the day so no-one has any preconceptions about what this baby is going to be like till it's here.

coconuts yay for good scan for you too! Mr S must have pretty much signed you off now apart from the 15/16 week check? Big congratulations and happy faces all round. And well done on getting the GP to sort out your Clexane on the NHS. Hope you get your 12 week scan soon. Will you be having any ante-natal screening?

choccypud I remember reading on here something about how if you have sex around the time of implantation (7-10 dpo) then you actually increase your chances of a bfp. There was some sort of research on it. So ever since then I've always 'allowed' DH another couple of goes during the 2ww! So it's not such a famine till AF has come and gone.

free et al Will be sacrificing an oyster, imbibing some chocolate and scattering some lily of the valley in a spell casting manner for all your eggs to pop and fertilise on Nov 1st.

ChoccyPud · 20/10/2011 16:05

What's Beltane? Forgive ignorance.

Well I should be on track for ov on 3 Nov seeing as af just turned up. [hgrin]

Back in the saddle again. Again.

freelancegirl · 20/10/2011 16:07

Rather fascinated by a) the SWI around implantation and b) the oyster sacrificing, chocolate imbibing, lily of valley scattering impregnanting spell. But hey, I am willing to try it all! Am trying to work out why the added sperm might help with implanting (bringing it up the rear with an extra push for any lazy ones...?) as I don';t have time to Dr Google it.

Great news that things are progressing well for you Coconut. Gosh, it all seems to be looking quite good for all our pregnant folk on here!

Digi I am with you in thinking I would want to know the sex, BUT I know how dull it can be when your friends know what they are having and they announce the baby is born. It takes away the element of surprise. I wonder if you can find out and keep it to yourself....? Probably not, as it is a huge secret to try to keep and it might slip out or become obvious when you are at the stage of buying gender themed bits and bobs.

ChoccyPud · 20/10/2011 16:09

Ooh digi just saw your post. V interesting esp as that's what we did in Sept which turned out to have worked. Dh will be pleased to hear that! More big grins here!!

Arianrhod · 20/10/2011 16:17

lol Well I would ask Dr Google, but I think my company's internet filter would have a hundred fits if I search for anything with 'sperm' in it .. ! :)

Great on the sacrificing, imbibing and scattering digi, I'm sure it will help Grin

choc Beltane is an ancient (pagan) festival that celebrates the fertility (crops and the like) for the coming year, at the start of May.

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ChoccyPud · 20/10/2011 16:48

Thanks Ari. I shall be Dr Googling tonight. At Work on iPhone is not ideal place or tool for sperm related research. Never mind the strict web filters - We are open plan so there's no way I'd be MNing on my pc!

Stogan · 20/10/2011 17:52

Yey coconut Congrats hunni. Grinx

Doubt I'll sleep tonight before my scan tomorrow soooooo excited but sooooo nervous, why can't I get it thru my head I AM GOING TO HAVE THIS BABY !! nope still not convinced Sad x

Comedyworks · 20/10/2011 18:43

Great news Coconut - congratulations! Yes I was there yesterday from about nine until half one. When I was in the waiting area first thing I did have the urge to shout out and ask whether anyone was on MN but it was all a bit too calm for that.

... so should we anticipate very little posting on this thread in early November as 'hot sex' takes over!!

ChoccyPud · 20/10/2011 20:21

Ok, so Dr Google tells me that there's some research regarding IVF that found that exposure to semen around the time of embryo transfer might assist implantation. However, the bad news is that it also found that "uterine contractions" weren't good.

I read that as meaning, crack on but don't enjoy it too much... Pah Hmm

humrep.oxfordjournals.org/content/15/12/2653.long
www.bwhct.nhs.uk/ur/print/bwq02001.htm

www.actionlove.com/cases/case9114.htm

freelancegirl · 20/10/2011 20:36

Coitus-induced uterine contractions... Grin

I also read somewhere that there's a theory that ingesting semen, er, orally is likely to make your body less likely to reject a pregnancy! I realise this is way TMI here but I am thinking of giving it a go :)

Not sure what your company's google filter would think of THAT too Ari Grin

Coconutfeet · 20/10/2011 20:39

I must have just missed you comedy. I got there at about ten and left at after you. The staff there are lovely but I nearly threw up when she couldn't get the canula in. Ugh.
Ari - clexane is a blood thinner. I've got a factor II gene mutation, or sticky blood.

Stogan - good luck tomorrow! Has your work situation improved at all?

Digi - yes only one more appointment with Mr s. Just as well really as it's been a bit of a wallet-buster. I'm planning a big clearout next week and sm putting loads of stuff on eBay to make a bit of cash.

I love the idea of all the fertility spells that'll be happening in a couple of weeks...

suemays · 20/10/2011 21:00

Free - do you think that bit of info about ingesting semen was written by a man?!!! Ha ha, the things we will try to get a baby!
Good news on all the scans girls - it gives the rest of us hope.
Looks like my husband won't be going away again for a while so I will be joining you all ttc in early november. Not sure when the date will be as the preds have mucked my cycle up now. I have just started charting for the first time too to try an pinpoint when it has happened.
Talking of TTC - I read somewhere that it helps to keep your feet warm at all times - something used in chinese medicine. Mmmm socks in bed v sexy!

freelancegirl · 20/10/2011 21:14

Socks in bed, ingesting semen, plenty of action after ovulation but no coitus-induced uterine contractions... ladies - we have a plan Grin

ChoccyPud · 20/10/2011 21:23

And there we were worrying about selling ttc-performing seal sex to respective oh's: get it on lots love and you don't even need too sort us out as part of the deal. If you don't mind fighting your way past the Mr Greedy tummy so much the better Grin