TTC/ pregnancy on Prednisolone or similar part 2

[Arianrhod]

Starting up part 2 of this thread since the old one closed at 1000 posts!

iggi lots of luck for today, hope it's nothing - I know it doesn't help but I know lots of women have spotting and/or bleeding in pregnancy and it still goes ok. Definitely call the EPU, get scanned - it's worth it, honestly, at least you will know one way or another. Virtual hugs coming your way.

free I also started AF properly this morning, so looks like we may be both importuning a friendly witch for a good fertility spell on Hallowe'en? I know exactly what you mean about the scary stuff ... a small part of me was actually sort of relieved when I didn't get a BFP purely because it means I don't have to go through the whole worrying about miscarrying all over again. Bizarre, but there it is.

Thanks coconut for your reassurance!

I started feeling flutters around 17/18 weeks I think and then proper kicks after 21 weeks. It is very reassuring and my daughter was a little acrobat:)

CoconutI also started feeling fluttering feelings at about 17 weeks. I had a Amnio at about 15 and half weeks which was awful, god knows why I didn't just have the blood test for downs. So it was reassuring for me. How exciting for you bet you can't wait for that feeling!
Thanks Cherry naively excited but you never know. Sorry about your BFN hun.x
OH's excitement of getting it on every night is wearing off if you know what I mean!! I saw his finger hovvering over remote for CSI Miami until I reminded him that we better give it one more shot! poor love..

Got wi-fi!

brownie did you have a scan today?

coconut glad your scan went well - do you still have another tomorrow or is your next one the anomaly scan? Congrats on graduating from Mr S!

iggi good luck on Wednesday. Is this your local hospital dating/nuchal scan?

free hope you're having a lovely time!

cheerful hope you got lucky with the intralipids quest.

stogan are you beginning to enjoy pregnancy now (aside from the fear)?

Sorry to hear of all the bfn's - I really do recommend charting your temps as a way to pinpoint ovulation so you know when to expect af.

battery glad af seems to be back to normal (even though would have been better for a 9 month delay) - hopefully body has completely reset itself and next cycle will be the one.

Who's superovulating this cycle? Good luck to you! Will be very exciting to find out if it scores a bfp!

Am well jealous of all the winter sun and Florida talk. DS and I nearly got lost trying to find our lodge in the dark here at CenterParcs. Thankfully there were lots of people milling about, but not enough signposts for my liking. Still, we'll see what all the fuss is about tomorrow. So far the highlight for ds has been the hairdryer in his room!

Should probably skip to Tuesday but I've done it now:
Monday 14th November
TTC
coleyoz - V High NKC. TTC #2 - ov 30 Oct (Pred and Intralipids at BFP)
ChoccyPud - V High NKC / TTC #1/ 4th Pred cycle/ testing 12 Nov
Arianrhod - V High NKC, MTHFR homo, hypothyroid, TTC#2 Testing 16th Nov
Freelance - V High NKC TTC#1 Hydroxchloroquine, Pred, Intralipids. Thyroid/hashimotos. Mc first cycle. Testing 17th Nov
eurochick - TTC#1 awaiting first appointment (in Nov)/cd9/ov 1 Nov
Snoopygirl - V High NKC TTC, will be Ist try with Pred, Intralipids on bfp Testing 21st Nov
Havingkittens - High NKC TTC #1 after 2 month break/ov around 18 Nov.
duggs1976 - High/V High NKC - TTC #1
batteryhen - High activation NKC, factor v leiden. TTC#1
Suemays - V High NKC TTC/ov 30th Oct. TTC#2.
Cherrycheeks - V high NKC, TTC#2/ 3rd cycle of pred
pureequeen - High NKC TTC #2 again from November (BFP cycle one but mc)

BFP
Stogan - V high NKC - BFP 9/7/11 cycle#2- 23+2 Due 10/03/12 next scan 30/12
Digitalgirl - High NKC - BFP cycle#2 -18+0 Due DC#2 16/04/12 anomaly scan 23/11
Coconutfeet - V High NKC, Factor II gene mutation, underactive thyroid - BFP pre-pred, started at 6 weeks - 14+6 next scan 15/11
Iggi - High NKC & Hypothyroidism - BFP cycle#2 - 11+5 next scan 16/11
Comedy - V High NKC - BFP cycle#2 - 11+3 due 1/16/12 scan ?
BrownieGecko - High NKC, Hypothyroidism, & Glucose Intolerant. BFP on cycle 3 of Clomid - 10+4 next scan 14/11
Scooterchaser - V High NKC - BFP cycle1 - 7+1. Due 01/07/12. Scan?
Cheerfulcharlie - V High NKC, MTHFR/TTC 1/ (intralipids on BFP, no pred) - BFP cycle? - 3+4

snoop you made me laugh out loud re your CSI Miami comment- I even read out to DH so he realises other people live like we do!! As for superovulation cycle- yes this is my 3rd with dr s and my first on letroloze. Just taken my last tablet - cd6. Have a scan booked for next Monday in Harley street. Will report back how many follicles and size etc. Will be given injection and go and have sex for next 2 nights. Them night off, then 3rd night sex again. Then start pred. Then wait for 10 days. If it doesn't work again I can blame my rubbish eggs I guess. Will report back all ladies. So far so good - aside from horrid headache yesterday afternoon/evening but that could've been anything. Hope all ok today - any more tests?

BTW. . Forgot to ask does anyone know of any superovulation successes? I do ovulate - just want to do it harder/faster! I can be a little case study!( errh no pressure then )

Morning all... Well I'm here to tentatively report a rather-pale-but-definitely-there BFP on FR!!! It's 2 weeks today since I got a CBD ov smiley face so not sure how dark I should expect(hope) the line to be at this stage?

Aaarrrggghhh... Keep saying to myself I must not panic. But am shaking with nerves - it certainly ain't excitement.

Yesterday was 14th Pred. Does it matter that it's a pale line do you think? should I just crack on with 40mg and test again tomorrow or Thursday to be sure before bothering to book intralipids?? Don't feel remotely pg, felt more "activity" last week.

Help!

Aaarrrggghhh chiccy exciting stuff, now breathe and relax. Xxxx

Yeah digi starting to enjoy things much more now as I'm feeling lots better apart from huge swollen feet every night but they are gone in the morning so MW isn't concerned. How are u doin Hun? Starting to relax yet? I no I won't relax until my baby is here, still sometimes doesn't seem real but very real when I have to get DH yo tie my laces as I can't bend over !!!!

Here's to some more BFPs ladies xxx

Meant choccy sorry, stoopid phone !!! X

choccy yay!! My fr line was quite faint till about a week or two after af was late - don't worry about that. If you got a smiley face 14 days ago you're still only 13dpo today.

stogan I had swollen feet and legs when pg with ds. Hasn't got bad yet, am hoping the colder weather will help. Feeling rather positive about it all. Was hoping to relax a bit more into this part, but just keep waiting for more defined movements and wishing the weeks away.

duggs good luck with the cycle monitoring.

Yee Haa choccypud!! Fantastic news.. won't advise on anything as just started using the dreaded pred but I;m sure the others will advise. Good luck to you and bring on some more BFP's!

Duggs Does your OH watch all those other crap channel 5 films too at night? There usually headed up something like...Robot Death Race Wars or some other highly intellectual title. Starring that versatile actor Jason Statham or the like. hehe

Congratulations Choccy. I'd say go onto the 40mg Preds for sure. A line is a line after all, and also you want to be doing as much as you can to ensure the line gets darker and the bean sticks!

Suemays I guess you've resigned yourself to a BFN by now but I just wanted to say that my AF has been super short and light whilst on Pred. 2 days of spotting has been pretty much the norm for me. My most normal period all year has been the last one, which was after 2 months off the Pred.

free, and anyone else actually that's baffled by a BFN after much 'activity' felt a week after OV. I only started noticing this since being on Pred but after much Googling, every month, it seems pretty common for people to have cramping at around 7dpo. I have no idea why it happens but it's happened every month, without fail, apart from during the 2 month break. Curious!

coley I was on Pred for 6 months before they told me to take a break.

duggs, re you quote from Louise about no 3rd babies on the treatment so far, I know of someone who's had their 3rd quite recently on the treatment. Maybe not with Mr S though, I'm not sure.

Lovely to hear of all the progress with the scans. Time seems to go so quickly when you're looking at other people's updates. Weird that when you are the pregnant one it feels like suspended animation!

coconut &iggi, good luck with your scans. brownie how did yours go yesterday?

Morning all ... choccy huge congratulations on that line, and you know what, that's two of us this morning then ... ok, I caved and tested at 11dpo (mostly, I have to say, not to see a BFP but so that I could stop taking the pred), and got the same as you, a faint but definite line. And I'm now absolutely bricking it :( I've started the 40mg pred, and already spoken to Mr S's secretary, got appt with Mr S for 7th December and waiting for NLC to call me with an appt for the intralipids.

I have to say I did initially think perhaps I should wait until next week to even start thinking about intralipids but then I thought, no, I'd determined to throw everything I can at the next pregnancy because it may well be my last, so blow it, I can always cancel the appt if it's not needed. At least if anything goes wrong (when?) it won't be because I didn't do things soon enough. If that makes sense to anyone!

Nervous as hell and worried to bits, I'm just scared here it starts all over again. Hope you can't get a MC from negative thoughts!!

/waves to everyone, hope you're all doing great, and I'll have a more coherent posting later once my brain has (hopefully) settled down a bit.

Oh, and choccy ... I will definitely be testing tomorrow ... and the day after ... and if the last pregnancy is anything to go by, probably every day for the next week! AF isn't due until Fri, and I'm very much aware of the early miscarriage I had in February (where the lines remained faint for just under a week then turned to BFN immediately followed by MC). Last pregnancy in May I didn't even tell DP for a week after I'd got my first BFP because I wanted to wait to see if it turned out to be another early miscarriage ...

So a-testing I shall be, for at least the next week!

Yay Ari that's fabulous!!! You've inspired me to call the office to get an intralipids appt. That's got to be right hasn't it let's throw all we can at it - even -as I type the little buggers are probably trying to mess things up. Right. Gonna go call now.

Bricking it is frankly an understatement. :(

Brilliant, 2 bfp's!

I know it's a long scary journey, but it's good to be back on the road again.
I am 12 weeks today. No bleeding or bad pains, so a normal person would be feeling pretty good now! I'm viewing today as my last day to 'enjoy' being pg before the dating/NT scan tomorrow. I've dodged so many bullets this time I can't believe my luck will hold again.
Re the 3 mc on treatment, don't forget the treatment will have no impact on chromosomal abnormalities which must account for a lot of mc.

Flippn 'eck ari as well! Congrats to you too! Get those intralipids booked ladies!

Congratulations Ari. Blimey, so that's 3 more to add to the list this month!

iggi, the 3rd I mentioned was a baby, not a miscarriage. I was really confused by reading duggs' post because what I read was "most carry 1st pregnancy to term on treatment, some have 2nd, no 3rds so far" so I thought she meant successes rather than MCs. But then I've seen comments relating to that post referring to MCs so not sure which way it was meant now! Anyway, what I was trying to relay was that I know of a couple who have, after several miscarriages, had their 3rd baby on the treatment (but I think they did have a couple of MCs in between pregnancies, also on the treatment).

Ari brilliant news so excited for you. good luck and try to stay calm if that's possible. That's 3 bfp's in the last few days!! The list is almost balanced I think?!

iggi congrats on reaching 12 weeks it's a real milestone and I know you'll be dreading it but wishing you all the best for your scan tomorrow and let us know how you get on. x

Thanks guys ... I'm not excited at all, I'm bl**dy terrified :( And the thought of the cyclogest ...err ... insertions?! aren't filling me full of delight either!

Preg ladies, can I ask, at what point did you have your first intralipids? And how quickly did the clinic come back to you with an appt? Naively I rather thought I'd have a call from them this morning, if it's supposed to be that urgent to have the first one as close to BFP as possible, but I haven't heard anything yet. I spoke to Mr S's secretary about 9:15 this morning, I thought the clinic would have called me by now?

iggi Lots of luck for your NT/dating scan tomorrow ... that always used to be my biggest fear (because of my age) ... now, I'll just wait to see if I even get that far!!

So.

It's 4am LA time - couldn't sleep, did a test...

....and a very, very, very, very faint positive from me too.

Haven't even been able to get through to DH yet to tell him. It can't be good news can it? Why does the f*cking thing have to be so bloody faint?! It's definitely there though. I wasn't charting this month but it is 14 days since the first day I felt a few ovary twinges (felt them the next day too and light cramps, bloating the day after) and 13 days since I started the Pred.

Not quite sure what to do now. Kick in the intralipids/40mg Pred? I guess I have no choice.

I feel bad that DH doesn't know yet (he's at work and busy) but I felt I needed to come and speak to you lot too!

Ari they can arrange intralipids pretty quickly so I imagine you will be in there tomorrow. I am very much with you and Choccy about the mentalling. Actually I don't even feel scared or nervous yet. I just don't feel like it is actually real. Or that anything will actually come of it. I have got pregnant easily before (again that ominous faint positive) and it all it seems to prove is am fertile and deadly (great name for a band by the way...?).

Hmmm. 4.45am. Guess I need to neck some 40mg Pred and a Hydroxychloroquinine.

Woohoo free, that's three of us all today!! I can understand your concern being over in LA and all, but def. kick in the 40mg pred and intralipids as soon as you can.

I still haven't heard from the clinic, so I'm presuming I won't be in tomorrow. I may be super-impatient and phone Mr S's secretary again in an hour or so, I'm surprised I haven't heard back yet.

And I'm with you on the "why the heck do these things have to be faint", all it does is make you doubt the positivity of the things. Hence why I will be testing, testing, testing again. However ... yes, it can be good news and hopefully is - remember many ladies don't get positives at all until after their AF is due.

May I just say on behalf of the three of us ... Aaaaarrrggghhhh!

Bloody hell, it's an epidemic! Well done free.

If you weren't pregnant though I might have to slap you with a fish for your "It can't be good news can it?" remark. Lots of people only get a feint line at 14dpo. Wasn't it even you who posted the table of percentages of people who got a BPF at varying dpo? There is every reason this could actually work out ok. Try not to worry too much. (You can tell it's been a year since I was last pregnant with remarks like that!)

I'm flapping a bit because a feint line has come up on my OPK and my GP hasn't yet got the letter from St Helier with my new treatment prescription. It had bloody better turn up by the time I've ovulated, that's all I can say!

Aaaaarrrggghhhh indeed!

I think you will be in tomorrow Ari as they organise it really quickly. I think when I organised it last time I actually then called NLC directly and arranged a time so you might want to try that if you haven't already done so.

Choccy did you get an appointment?

Cheerful emailed me the prescription they emailed her - it's not signed or anything so I hope it's ok to use here. Wonder how much it will be. I asked the clinic for it twice last week and they never got back to me. Might have to give them a call in a bit and see if they can email me a signed one with my name on it.

Just to also add a huge congratulations to iggi for the 12 weeks mark too!

Can't believe this thread today!!!!! free omg! that's amazing hope it keeps getting darker, get the drugs down you quick. Don't know how long you are there for but hope you have Intralipids sorted.

ari phone again your paying for it at the end of the day and even if you weren't like you say if it's that important should be arranging for you soon as.

God, I'm so happy for everyone on here and I don't even know you! Welling up now...is that the pred makin me a soppy cow?

Here's the list that free posted. Shows you that even thou Dr S says do a 10 day test that it is still hit and miss at that stage. That's a bit dodgy isn't it when you could stop taking the pred at 10dpo and you could still get a positive? Anyway lets just revel in the brilliant news..

DPO & % of women who get BFP on that day:

10dpo 35%
11dpo 51%
12dpo 62%
13dpo 68%
14dpo 74%
15dpo 80%
16dpo 88%
17dpo 92%