TTC/ pregnancy on Prednisolone or similar part 2

[Arianrhod]

Starting up part 2 of this thread since the old one closed at 1000 posts!

iggi lots of luck for today, hope it's nothing - I know it doesn't help but I know lots of women have spotting and/or bleeding in pregnancy and it still goes ok. Definitely call the EPU, get scanned - it's worth it, honestly, at least you will know one way or another. Virtual hugs coming your way.

free I also started AF properly this morning, so looks like we may be both importuning a friendly witch for a good fertility spell on Hallowe'en? I know exactly what you mean about the scary stuff ... a small part of me was actually sort of relieved when I didn't get a BFP purely because it means I don't have to go through the whole worrying about miscarrying all over again. Bizarre, but there it is.

Looking good cheerful 9/10 dpo is early so to be getting a line albeit faint is great! I had a fair bit of I plantation bleeding with this pregnancy so try not to worry about that.

Sorry to hear of other bfns but I do think it's early days!!

Duggs very sorry to read of your scan - just awful. I had one scan where it seemed that the heart must have stopped that day but it turned out to be a partial molar so it was growing but the heart might never have been beating in the first place.

Wishing everyone a good weekend.

Damn, am posting from Heathrow and I can't seek to read everything back properly. Cant see the post from Duggs re scan but comedy's one sounds very upsetting too. My with my first mc this year I had bleeding and cramps 2 days before 12 week scan so I knew it was coming bug it was still heartbreaking seeing that still thing on the screen. With the second one there was only ever a sac so that meant a long drawn out round of unsuccessful weekly scans.

Blimey cheerful it looks like you are pregnant! I am not sure what to say as I didn't want any congratulations with my last one and we all know it is just the first step. But it's a very good step and you are now on the treatment!

Well I am off to LA, armed with a bag full of medication. Had another bfn yesterday and blown both my FR tests now so either get more of do the 3 cheapies (test after period is due) ones. I still feel there might be something going on down there but no idea whether it might just be the drugs. And there doesn't feel enough going on down there to make me feel confident that if it is a pregnancy it will grow, can anyone relate to that? Depressing as that sounds it feels like if there is something there it might already be going the same way as the last one. I guess I should be more optimistic but I just don't feel that way. And maybe there's nothing there at all. Oh it's all such a head f@ck isn't it! 14th day on Pred will be weds so see what happens then.

Waves to all, and sorry for lack of direct post response xx

cheerful that's fantastic news! Hooray for a bfp!!! Implantation bleeding is v common. For you to be getting positives after bleeding is a good sign. If it continues then go get a scan next week to rule out an ep. However, I'm going to be positive for you and stick you on the bfp list at 9dpo! Scooter will be pleased that she's no longer bottom of the list.

duggs what a tragic story , so rare for that to happen at least you know it can never happen again.

Saturday 12th November
TTC
coleyoz - V High NKC. TTC #2 - ov 30 Oct (Pred and Intralipids at BFP)
batteryhen - High activation NKC, factor v leiden. TTC#1 Testing 12th Nov
Suemays - V High NKC TTC/ov 30th Oct. TTC#2. Testing 12th Nov
Cherrycheeks - V high NKC, TTC#2/ 3rd cycle of pred / Testing 12th Nov
ChoccyPud - V High NKC / TTC #1/ 4th Pred cycle/ testing 12 Nov
Arianrhod - V High NKC, MTHFR homo, hypothyroid, TTC#2 Testing 16th Nov
Freelance - V High NKC TTC#1 Hydroxchloroquine, Pred, Intralipids. Thyroid/hashimotos. Mc first cycle. Testing 17th Nov
eurochick - TTC#1 awaiting first appointment (in Nov)/cd9/ov 1 Nov
Snoopygirl - V High NKC TTC/ov 16 Nov ish/will be Ist try with Pred Intralipids
Havingkittens - High NKC TTC #1 after 2 month break/ov around 18 Nov.
duggs1976 - High/V High NKC - TTC #1
pureequeen - High NKC TTC #2 again from November (BFP cycle one but mc)

BFP
Stogan - V high NKC - BFP 9/7/11 cycle#2- 23+0 Due 10/03/12 next scan 30/12
Digitalgirl - High NKC - BFP cycle#2 -17+5 Due DC#2 16/04/12 anomaly scan 23/11
Coconutfeet - V High NKC, Factor II gene mutation, underactive thyroid - BFP pre-pred, started at 6 weeks - 14+4 next scan 15/11
Iggi - High NKC & Hypothyroidism - BFP cycle#2 - 11+3 next scan ?
Comedy - V High NKC - BFP cycle#2 - 11+1 due 1/16/12 scan ?
BrownieGecko - High NKC, Hypothyroidism, & Glucose Introlerant. BFP on cycle 3 of Clomid - 10+2 next scan 14/11
Scooterchaser - V High NKC - BFP cycle1 - 6+6. Due 01/07/12. Scan?
Cheerfulcharlie -V High NKC, MTHFR/TTC 1/ (intralipids on BFP, no pred) - BFP cycle? - 3+2

Hurrah for adding cheerful to the list! Well done Digi. I did read back Duggs and read about your scan. That's just awful.

On a lighter note, am on the plane and I've been upgraded so am sipping an obligatory sparkling wine whilst choosing what movies to watch. Not great considering I don't yet know if am pregnant but hey. Am thinking Bad Teacher and We Need To Talk About Kevin. Loved the book but interested to see how film is - am aware we have had a review here already but can't remember who that was.

Cheerful that's great news.

Duggs the scan story is just awful. So sad.

Free upgraded, eh? Lucky you. Enjoy!

Yay cheerful looking good! It's natural to be nervous but you're on to the next stage which is fantastic. Get those intralipids booked in! I'm delighted we've got at least one BFP this month

Nice work on the upgrade free. Bad Teacher is pretty good, Diaz is good at the bad girl character, one imagines she likes a beer or three in real life...

Catching up on latest posts, so will just say hi and happy weekend to everyone! X

cheerful whispering congratulations to you... So happy that there is BFP news this morning.
BFN again for me this morning I think I'm 9/10 dpo. I've been temping the last few days aswell and had a massive drop this morning.. A bit early for AF though? Arghhhhh!
The pred side effect of lack of sleep had really got to me this cycle.. I feel like an emotional/ manic/ psycho wreck.

duggs your scan story made me cry, it sounds absolutley heartbreaking.
I'm so sorry for what you have been through. I have a big fear of those scan rooms after several 'not good news I'm afraid' scans, but yours must have been devastating after hearing the heartbeat just 30 minutes earlier.

Anyway ladies I'm off to get my moustache threaded. No BFP I don't think for me this time but I do seem to be coming down with a cold.. HURRAH! At least the pred is working in some ways

cheerful great news well done hun, heres hoping it's goes from strength to strength. 8 pregnant versus 12 ttc isn't bad going. Bring on some more good news!!

At last got my smiley face on OV digi stick! I must say that cheapie Onestep ones are ok and have faint line on that too but don't know whether I could rely on those alone. Over last fews days the v faint line has come and gone on those don't know whether i trust them. also have to wait about 20mins for line to show on them. Think I'll take first pred in morning otherwise from what others say I'll be staring at ceiling all night! Deep breath, here we go.............
Updated list with my testing date. x

Saturday 12th November
TTC
coleyoz - V High NKC. TTC #2 - ov 30 Oct (Pred and Intralipids at BFP)
batteryhen - High activation NKC, factor v leiden. TTC#1 Testing 12th Nov
Suemays - V High NKC TTC/ov 30th Oct. TTC#2. Testing 12th Nov
Cherrycheeks - V high NKC, TTC#2/ 3rd cycle of pred / Testing 12th Nov
ChoccyPud - V High NKC / TTC #1/ 4th Pred cycle/ testing 12 Nov
Arianrhod - V High NKC, MTHFR homo, hypothyroid, TTC#2 Testing 16th Nov
Freelance - V High NKC TTC#1 Hydroxchloroquine, Pred, Intralipids. Thyroid/hashimotos. Mc first cycle. Testing 17th Nov
eurochick - TTC#1 awaiting first appointment (in Nov)/cd9/ov 1 Nov
Snoopygirl - V High NKC TTC, will be Ist try with Pred, Intralipids on bfp Testing 21st Nov
Havingkittens - High NKC TTC #1 after 2 month break/ov around 18 Nov.
duggs1976 - High/V High NKC - TTC #1
pureequeen - High NKC TTC #2 again from November (BFP cycle one but mc)

BFP
Stogan - V high NKC - BFP 9/7/11 cycle#2- 23+0 Due 10/03/12 next scan 30/12
Digitalgirl - High NKC - BFP cycle#2 -17+5 Due DC#2 16/04/12 anomaly scan 23/11
Coconutfeet - V High NKC, Factor II gene mutation, underactive thyroid - BFP pre-pred, started at 6 weeks - 14+4 next scan 15/11
Iggi - High NKC & Hypothyroidism - BFP cycle#2 - 11+3 next scan ?
Comedy - V High NKC - BFP cycle#2 - 11+1 due 1/16/12 scan ?
BrownieGecko - High NKC, Hypothyroidism, & Glucose Introlerant. BFP on cycle 3 of Clomid - 10+2 next scan 14/11
Scooterchaser - V High NKC - BFP cycle1 - 6+6. Due 01/07/12. Scan?
Cheerfulcharlie -V High NKC, MTHFR/TTC 1/ (intralipids on BFP, no pred) - BFP cycle? - 3+2

Oh good ..some good news! It feels like we are in a little life raft on choppy seas and there is a lovely yacht near by that each of us has to get into ..one by one so yes another one onto the yacht is good ..it is possible to get there. The yacht is still on the same choppy sea but you can only get where we're going in the yacht! Hilarious cherry when you said moustache threaded. . I was plucking this morning and lost interest so narrowed my eyes and moved to dimmer lighting. As long as u stay in poorly lit environments I'll be doing ok. Safe trip free enjoy LA. X

Cheerful - fantastic news for you, fingers crossed the line will get darker!

Not sure if anyone else is interested but Duggs and I are meeting up on Sat 25th Nov for a coffee/drink/vodka at the Royal Oak in Farnham Common Beaconsfield Road, Farnham Common, Slough, Berkshire, SL2 3HS, Tel: 01753 257 473. We are meeting at 2.30pm so let us know if you want to catch up too. Would be nice if some of the out of townies can make it as I know not all of us can make the central London one. Obviously if any of the London based ladies want to come you are more than welcome.

sue may and Duggs - I'm not far from there so will meet up for a lime juice (the only drink I can stomach at the moment - not sure how good three litres of lime cordial in a week is doing!) if that's ok?

Enjoy the flight free and travel safely.

Yeah! Tentative congratulations cheerful. Let's hope that line gets darker for you.

Very jealous of your upgrade and trip to LA free. Dp and I have spent the day decorating, which I bloody hate. Still done now, and well worth the effort.

Comedy - you've been in my thoughts a lot today as I wielded my brush. I think you said it would have been your ds's birthday this weekend. Must be a very poignant time for you.

Hope everyone else is ok.

cheerful - Hooray! At last one BFP! Fingers crossed it just gets stronger xx

duggs Your 12 week scan story is dreadful. My 3rd MMC was at 12 weeks. We had had scans at 6,8,10 weeks all with good hb, then at 12 weeks - no hb and the baby measured 12 weeks. The sonographer started to cry when she told me the baby had died in the last 24 hours. Tests showed it was a little girl, with no abnormalaties. I have to say I do not look forward to scans at all. There is no pleasure in them.

As for me - 2 bits of news. AF arrived today - full on which is good as I haven't had a 'proper' period since the erpc in June and I was worried someting was wrong. But today I have had my first normal period in months.
Secondly, my appointment for Prof Regan arrived today too - and it is next month which I am pleased about, so not long to wait.

I hope everyone is ok, enjoy the states free. Have a good weekend everyone else xx

Thank you coconut

Hey ladies,

At last..I've discovered google documents so can link to this spreadsheet...it isn't finished but you can all access it so if you can ..do go in and update your own info..

docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtEN_z1FdjUMdHd6c0xCd2JRd3hXVmtTZXROYVE1OGc

Well done duggs . I've entered my info but wasn't sure exactly how my cycle attempts are counted. It's my 9th cycle since starting the Pred but had a 2 month gap so would that count as cycle 9 or 7?

Congratulations cheerful!

Duggs - more great work with the doc, you're a star. I've added my details too, so far as I can be sure - most of my mcs were very early.

As AF hasn't arrived yet and as it's only 12dpo today, I'm leaving ov as 1 Nov rather than guessing the next date...dh has been doing good work this morning on my optimism levels despite another bfn!

Morning all!
Comedy - I will prob be drinking soda and lime too so we can be last of the big drinkers!

I am a bit confused today as my period seems to have stopped. It started late on Fri night with a bit of spotting and was not at all heavy yesterday (sorry if TMI). Normally its heavy by the 2nd day but its nearly stopped. If I was not temping I would be wondering if it was implantation bleeding as that can happen at 12DPO but my temp has dropped to baseline. Any thoughts as I doubt I can be preggers if my temp has dropped???
I might do a FR test tomorrow but dont want to waste them! I had what I thought was a period with my daughter at around my Af was due and so didn't realise I was pregnant until 8 weeks!

sue test. If it's positive you'll need to up your pred dose.

duggs beautiful chart, will try and update my details later.

comedy thinking of you and your ds this weekend

Gotta dash, family heading over for Sunday lunch and haven't had a shower yet. Beef is in the oven and all veg is prepped - so have been busy this morning. 18 weeks tomorrow!

Hello, nothing to complain about if all is still well inside, but have been completely floored for the last few days - today I am still in bed at 1pm and feel incapable of getting up (only possible due to dh being at home of course). This can't be normal can it?!

Dreading my 12 week scan on Wed now, there is still so much to go wrong.
Good news on the bfp Cheerful, and yay for 18 weeks coming up Digi!

Congratulations cheerful - I'm so glad we have a bfp!

Sue - I would definitely test! How is your temp? Has it gone up?

I tested negative today at 14dpo so have stopped the pred this morning. Feeling slightly weird today not taking the pred - slightly moody and low in energy. Anyone else had this after stopping the 25mg for 2 weeks?

Just waiting for AF to arrive now and focussing on next cycle. Bit disappointing:(

Coley I felt the same as you after coming off 25mg pred - really moody and tired so I think it's normal.

I have just eaten a load of brie so I hope in a way I am not pregnant. I have convinced myself I am not but will do a test tomorrow - thanks ladies for the advice! My temp has gone back up a bit but not loads.

Iggi I am sure everything will be OK at your scan tomorrow. I remember being absolutely knackered just before my 12 week scan so its a good sign as its a healthy pregnancy.

Digi 18 weeks has flown by - so exciting for you!!!

Duggs great chart - have added my bits to it too.

Sue definitely test it could be breakthrough bleeding.

sue definitely test, as digi says, you might need to up your pred! I have also had bleeding/ spotting on and off since what I thought was implantation about a week ago.

Duggs - fabulous chart, I have added my info.

I am in a bit of a tiz today, trying to sort out my intralipids overseas. I had the details from Dr S as 20% intralipids over 2 hours but I need to know how many millilitres it is, I didn't think to ask this as I presumed they came in standard packs, but apparently not. Does anyone have a clue? I have looked at all the bumpf Dr S gave me and can't see the quantity mentioned anywhere. I really really want to have these intralipids asap as I am not doing the pred so really relying on the intralipids to do their stuff on my v high levels. I have been doing research and see it's the earlier the better.

I will try ringing NLC tomorrow but they are a few hours behind which will mean I will have to probably wait til Tues to have them at the earliest and did I read in one of the earlier posts that Louise is away? Anyone know who i can contact at the clinic who will be able to help to let me know the quantity of intralipids???