TTC/ pregnancy on Prednisolone or similar part 2

[Arianrhod]

Starting up part 2 of this thread since the old one closed at 1000 posts!

iggi lots of luck for today, hope it's nothing - I know it doesn't help but I know lots of women have spotting and/or bleeding in pregnancy and it still goes ok. Definitely call the EPU, get scanned - it's worth it, honestly, at least you will know one way or another. Virtual hugs coming your way.

free I also started AF properly this morning, so looks like we may be both importuning a friendly witch for a good fertility spell on Hallowe'en? I know exactly what you mean about the scary stuff ... a small part of me was actually sort of relieved when I didn't get a BFP purely because it means I don't have to go through the whole worrying about miscarrying all over again. Bizarre, but there it is.

Excellent news Stogan, what an amazing thing to see! And great that you're having another scan too, nothing like extra reassurance to ease any niggling fears :)

Like the idea of a table there duggs, I love organisation :) I'm blessed to be a mum already, I have a DD born Jan 2007 at the ripe old age of 39 (and Mr S speculates that this is what kicked off my NK cells and underactive thyroid, which is nice :( ). And desperate, as you all know, for a little brother or sister for her.

Duggs some of us have got eg ttc#1/2/3 etc on the current list which should get you started on who's already a mum. I'm still going for no1 anyway.

Stogan absolutely fabulous news. Wonderful. Can't imagine how that feels but hopefully will one day

Amazing news Stogan, so happy for you! Can't beleive in no time at all you will be 30 weeks. It really is fabulous.

Euro it was me who asked when your appointment was as I really hope it brings some answers for you.

Battery chuckling away at you poas - ie any old stick that's in the house. Did you think of picking up any twigs on the way home too [grin} ? I guess I am not much better with my 8DPO poas but it's not impatience necessarily (yeah right) but more not wanting to have to organise intralipids when in LA. I don't feel pregnant today if that means anything. I few left ovary twinges but nothing significant. Still a bit off eating but I think that' the Hydroxy as the Pred usually kicks in the evening and makes me starving after dark.

Sorry for everyone having crap sleep and Digi for the seemingly imminent arrival of SPD. What a pain. Literally!

I too love the idea of a chart or table Duggs. It would help us stay organised but you never know might also give us an idea of some sort of pattern to things, if there is one.

BTW I forgot to mention that my referral for St Mary's finally came through!! It says that if pregnant i can't have the appointment. How did that work with you Digi? So if I am not pregnant at least there is another form of investigation to explore, even if it doesn't tell me anything.

Am in a coffee shop in the Wharf for the next couple of hours, knocking up an article before meeting DH for an early dinner. Best get on with it!

Excellent news stogan very very happy for you! Have updated your new scan date.

duggs I'm expecting #2, I have a DS who's 3. Mr S also said the first pregnancy would have activated my NK Cells. Love a table!

Tuesday 8th November
TTC
coleyoz - V High NKC. TTC #2 - ov 30 Oct (Pred and Intralipids at BFP)
duggs1976 - High/V High NKC - TTC #1 Testing 11th Nov
batteryhen - High activation NKC, factor v leiden. TTC#1 Testing 12th Nov
Suemays - V High NKC TTC/ov 30th Oct. TTC#2. Testing 12th Nov
Cherrycheeks - V high NKC, TTC#2/ 3rd cycle of pred / Testing 12th Nov
ChoccyPud - V High NKC / TTC #1/ 4th Pred cycle/ testing 12 Nov
Arianrhod - V High NKC, MTHFR homo, hypothyroid, TTC#2 Testing 16th Nov
Freelance - V High NKC TTC#1 Hydroxchloroquine, Pred, Intralipids. Thyroid/hashimotos. Mc first cycle. Testing 17th Nov
eurochick - TTC#1 awaiting first appointment (in Nov)/cd9/ov 1 Nov
Cheerfulcharlie - V High NKC (intralipids on BFP, no Pred) TTC/ov 5th Nov.
Snoopygirl - V High NKC TTC/ov 16 Nov ish/will be Ist try with Pred Intralipids
Havingkittens - High NKC TTC #1 after 2 month break/ov around 18 Nov.
pureequeen - High NKC TTC #2 again from November (BFP cycle one but mc)

BFP
Stogan - V high NKC - BFP 9/7/11 cycle#2- 22+3 Due 10/03/12 next scan 30/12
Digitalgirl - High NKC - BFP cycle#2 -17+1 Due DC#2 16/04/12 anomaly scan 23/11
Coconutfeet - V High NKC, Factor II gene mutation, underactive thyroid - BFP pre-pred, started at 6 weeks - 14+0 next scan 15/11
Iggi - High NKC & Hypothyroidism - BFP cycle#2 - 10+6 next scan ?
Comedy - V High NKC - BFP cycle#2 - 10+4 due 1/16/12 scan ?
BrownieGecko - High NKC, Hypothyroidism, & Glucose Introlerant. BFP on cycle 3 of Clomid - 9+5 next scan ?
Scooterchaser - V High NKC - BFP cycle1 - 6+2. Due 01/07/12. Scan 10/11

cross-posts free - I wasn't pg with my first appointment, they saw that I'd had most of the tests already, so just re-did the APA test and did a TEG. As my cycles were so long the consultant said I could probably carry on with TTC as I would have my results before a BFP. Both came back normal, so they didn't prescribe anything and said get on with TTC and that when I got a BFP to get back in touch to book another TEG. So when pg, booked a TEG at 5 weeks. Then booked a scan at 8 weeks, though they will see you from 6. The good thing about St Mary's is that if you want they will see you weekly from week 6, unlike some EPUs who seem to be very stingy about early scans no matter what your history.
I wanted to avoid going to the same room at my EPU as it had so many bad memories, so opted to travel into St Mary's for scans in between Mr S's scans.
So far I've had scans at 8 (St M), 9 (Mr S), 10 (St M), 11 (Mr S), 13(Local hopsital), 15(local), 17(Mr S) and will have my final one at 19 weeks (Local)!

Tuesday 8th November
TTC
coleyoz - V High NKC. TTC #2 - ov 30 Oct (Pred and Intralipids at BFP)
duggs1976 - High/V High NKC - TTC #1 Testing 11th Nov
batteryhen - High activation NKC, factor v leiden. TTC#1 Testing 12th Nov
Suemays - V High NKC TTC/ov 30th Oct. TTC#2. Testing 12th Nov
Cherrycheeks - V high NKC, TTC#2/ 3rd cycle of pred / Testing 12th Nov
ChoccyPud - V High NKC / TTC #1/ 4th Pred cycle/ testing 12 Nov
Arianrhod - V High NKC, MTHFR homo, hypothyroid, TTC#2 Testing 16th Nov
Freelance - V High NKC TTC#1 Hydroxchloroquine, Pred, Intralipids. Thyroid/hashimotos. Mc first cycle. Testing 17th Nov
eurochick - TTC#1 awaiting first appointment (in Nov)/cd9/ov 1 Nov
Cheerfulcharlie -V High NKC, MTHFR/TTC 1/ (intralipids on BFP, no Pred)/ov 3rd Nov
Snoopygirl - V High NKC TTC/ov 16 Nov ish/will be Ist try with Pred Intralipids
Havingkittens - High NKC TTC #1 after 2 month break/ov around 18 Nov.
pureequeen - High NKC TTC #2 again from November (BFP cycle one but mc)

BFP
Stogan - V high NKC - BFP 9/7/11 cycle#2- 22+3 Due 10/03/12 next scan 30/12
Digitalgirl - High NKC - BFP cycle#2 -17+1 Due DC#2 16/04/12 anomaly scan 23/11
Coconutfeet - V High NKC, Factor II gene mutation, underactive thyroid - BFP pre-pred, started at 6 weeks - 14+0 next scan 15/11
Iggi - High NKC & Hypothyroidism - BFP cycle#2 - 10+6 next scan ?
Comedy - V High NKC - BFP cycle#2 - 10+4 due 1/16/12 scan ?
BrownieGecko - High NKC, Hypothyroidism, & Glucose Introlerant. BFP on cycle 3 of Clomid - 9+5 next scan ?
Scooterchaser - V High NKC - BFP cycle1 - 6+2. Due 01/07/12. Scan 10/11

I've just updated again. I think I ov'd 3rd Nov (possibly 2nd). Well I'm loopier than the lot of you because I've already POAS at 5dpo! obviously it was BFN, but I am a POAS-a-holic and incredibly impatient and slightly ashamed to admit I will be testing everyday until AF. In the defence of testing on 8dpo, I was told to do so by Dr S. He was adamant that if we use first response it would be positive by then, although I am very dubious about this. Last time I got preggers I tested every day from about 6dpo and only got a very very very faint positive on 10 dpo.

Kittens So sorry to hear about your mum, you're doing well keeping it so together.

Stogan - really pleased to hear about your scan :-)

I am almost wanting to get a BFN this time as I have had spotting from 2 DPO (!) and i can't think if anything was going to implant it would have a very healthy implantation if my lining is shedding already. It's especially annoying as I've been using the cyclogest since ovulation (well 2 dpo) and that's supposed to maintain the womb lining. Had a bit of red bleeding (slightly more than spotting) and slight twingey crampy feelings today. It's not looking healthy.

Really jealous of your meet up plans and wish I lived closer.

Evening Ladies, wow you guys move quick :) Just caught up from Friday :)

You really do give me hope with all the good news about the positive scans this week!! Stogan hope you feel a bit more reassured. I have a scan then next couple of days I have persuaded myself something is wrong. Am on constant boob check.

I haven't posted or read MN these last few days as been mentalling about period like cramps since Sunday night. Called local EPU and they have refused to scan me despite my tearful pleas. They said, 'If your not bleeding, you're not coming in'. Pfffft. When I told her I had had 6 MC and most were MMC so I don't usually bleed when I miscarry she just tutted and told me to monitor the 'situation' ...WTF?!? DH took day off today to try and calm me down which was nice. Had a lovely relaxing day. Next scan is on Monday 14th Nov where I should be 10+3. I am going to hold out till then as no point in trying my local EPU. :(

Keeping everything crossed for those of you ovulating/TTC. It is very stressful watching out of any symptoms and then trying to stop yourself from testing too early. I was a shocker, god knows how much money I have spent these last 5 yrs on pregnancy tests.

Update from me, sorry post is so long now -

Tuesday 8th November
TTC
coleyoz - V High NKC. TTC #2 - ov 30 Oct (Pred and Intralipids at BFP)
duggs1976 - High/V High NKC - TTC #1 Testing 11th Nov
batteryhen - High activation NKC, factor v leiden. TTC#1 Testing 12th Nov
Suemays - V High NKC TTC/ov 30th Oct. TTC#2. Testing 12th Nov
Cherrycheeks - V high NKC, TTC#2/ 3rd cycle of pred / Testing 12th Nov
ChoccyPud - V High NKC / TTC #1/ 4th Pred cycle/ testing 12 Nov
Arianrhod - V High NKC, MTHFR homo, hypothyroid, TTC#2 Testing 16th Nov
Freelance - V High NKC TTC#1 Hydroxchloroquine, Pred, Intralipids. Thyroid/hashimotos. Mc first cycle. Testing 17th Nov
eurochick - TTC#1 awaiting first appointment (in Nov)/cd9/ov 1 Nov
Cheerfulcharlie -V High NKC, MTHFR/TTC 1/ (intralipids on BFP, no Pred)/ov 3rd Nov
Snoopygirl - V High NKC TTC/ov 16 Nov ish/will be Ist try with Pred Intralipids
Havingkittens - High NKC TTC #1 after 2 month break/ov around 18 Nov.
pureequeen - High NKC TTC #2 again from November (BFP cycle one but mc)

BFP
Stogan - V high NKC - BFP 9/7/11 cycle#2- 22+3 Due 10/03/12 next scan 30/12
Digitalgirl - High NKC - BFP cycle#2 -17+1 Due DC#2 16/04/12 anomaly scan 23/11
Coconutfeet - V High NKC, Factor II gene mutation, underactive thyroid - BFP pre-pred, started at 6 weeks - 14+0 next scan 15/11
Iggi - High NKC & Hypothyroidism - BFP cycle#2 - 10+6 next scan ?
Comedy - V High NKC - BFP cycle#2 - 10+4 due 1/16/12 scan ?
BrownieGecko - High NKC, Hypothyroidism, & Glucose Introlerant. BFP on cycle 3 of Clomid - 9+5 next scan 14/11
Scooterchaser - V High NKC - BFP cycle1 - 6+2. Due 01/07/12. Scan 10/11

Aww brownie, can totally understand how u feel hunni. Every single twinge, even now, I'm convinced it's all over but it's time to start being positive hunni as hard as it seems. The pains will be ur ligaments stretching, again hard to believe but it's ur little bundle growing inside you. Can see ur point and would help u so much if u had a scan asap but they just don't understand our situations at all unfortunately. I have honestly thought about looking into working in the sector now as really feel there should be someone at the reception of every EPU who has at least a little knowledge of situations such as ours rather than women who have all had 5 children each without a problem and have no idea what were going thru, sorry rant over . You are going to be fine hunni, not long until Monday now just try to relax xxxx

I guess u don't want a Doppler in case it causes unnecessary scares?

Ok looking into patterns.
Firstly there seem to be 21 of us ladies here active anyway.

A third are pregnant- 7 of us.
1 on first try, 4 on second and 1 on third. So over half it took 2 attempts less.

So dr s is right about first 3 trys being common.

I only have digi saying she has a child already - are all the rest of u going to be first time mothers then ? Am sure not do tell?

Out of us TTC group- there are 14 of us - 70% of us. Due to nature will always be largest group as this is where newbies join.

6 seem to be mothers already - just under half and 8 have no children yet.

Tells us with 7 pg and 6 at least one child 13 of us, it gives hope to the 8 of is not get pg and without children. ( do u know what I mean fellow no children ladies?) we are not a barren shell. There is real hope.

For the mothers trying to get a bfp then I guess the pg group offer most hope, particularly the speed.

choccypud, euro,cherry and I think coley you guys are waiting for some more feedback right? on results or time to conceive - do tell what you r thinking having passed the 3 cycle Mark or the adverse affect of steroids on ttc.

free, kittens and pure have u guys all had a bfp on this plan within 2 cycles but mc so looking more closely at your treatment plans with dr s? Is that right ? It did I lump someone in that group?

If you can help me out on these then then table starts to form.

Apologies now for inaccurate or missing info. cornflakes what about u?

Thank you Stogan Your post made me and DH fill up just now. I am desperately trying to stay positive, this will be the furthest we will of got if we get a hb on Monday. I agree with you about the much needed compassion by some EPU staff. Were your twinges like period pains then, have never had them like this before?

Duggs looking forward to seeing pie chart/table as geeky as it may sound :) am sure there are some common themes. I have no children to date.

Duggs could you move me to the group in the para below ie with Free etc, as I'm all sorted on tests etc and had chem/mc on month 2 on Pred. This is therefore month 4 overall or my 2nd 2nd...

So impressed with all your work on this! You're right it's comforting to know that the majority will succeed. I hold on to the knowledge that I'll conceive at some point if not this month - it's just (ha!) a case of will it stick?

Still a bit crampy and achy back... Argh! The wait, the fear...

brownie are you further along than you have been before? This might be why the feelings are unfamiliar. Yes, you will definitely have stretching pains and twinges. The pains are not always a sign of trouble. In a way they can be heartening as your body is making room for growth. Use iggi as your inspiration! Remember she was complaining about pains and feeling really worried and then went on to have a very positive scan. I think it's shitty that you should be tutted at and dismissed in the way you were. This is one of the issues that the MN Miscarriage Code of Practice is trying to achieve. People who work in the EPU should be trained to treat people with more compassion and make scans available to those with a history of repeat miscarriage. Even if they believe there should be no cause for concern and don't want to book you in for a scan they could at least be kind about it and not sharp and dismissive.

Duggs the following information has me a bit baffled. I can't quite understand what you are saying!

Tells us with 7 pg and 6 at least one child 13 of us, it gives hope to the 8 of is not get pg and without children. ( do u know what I mean fellow no children ladies?) we are not a barren shell. There is real hope.

Oh, and you put me in the group of people who have got pregnant within 2 cycles of pred and mc'd but that's not so. I haven't conceived at all since being on the pred. I was on pred for 6 months, then took a 2 month break and am now about to start it again when I ovulate. I got pregnant on 1st or 2nd cycle before taking pred and since being on pred.... no dice!

Will do choccy - it will make sense once I make a nice table. Apologies to those who I am boring to death. AND Sorry for my typing just now on iphone on train. Back now.

Ok just need suemays and arian to confirm which cycle pred attempt they on and Im nearly there.

Seems that of 8 of us TTC - 4 have already got BFP but MC or chemical MC. They now on 1st or 2nd go post Dr S mc. Saying this 2 of you were high and 2 were v high so no more or less risk to either group.

Also on the PG group 3 are V high and 4 high ladies, so again pretty balanced.

Just a case of another go with more pred in your systems and learnings from Dr S. This is a v interesting group as we need this group to suceed as you the safety net. It would also be interesting to explore Dr S responses to you guys for your 2nd rounds.

As for the rest of us, we are either on 1st, 2nd or 3rd cycle (sorry sue and arian can't remember ) But there is someone I think euro who is looking into IVF but wants to get things right before heading down that way. Wise lady.

I am having more pink/brown mucus TMI - think it is just AF early.. no BFP.. it is due on Sat.. I guess it could be early .

Off now to see my oldest friends -one has 3 girls under 5 (so ok that is just careless) and the other has 1 week to go, but v happy for her as unexpected as her DP had cancer a while back and got told he had almost no chance of children. But 6 yrs on she is 36 weeks.

I will check in on my phone, I feel a bit down. Will be ok once I know one way or other and can get on with pre ov life again for another month. x

Just a very quickie as I'm supposed to be getting dinner .. duggs I'm now on my second cycle of Pred, 4dpo.

Duggs you are doing a sterling job, chin up sweetie and maybe all the stats will keep your brain a little bit occupied.

Me: straightforward -1 son nearly 6 then 5 mc's, Ist cycle of pred this month, me 42 OH 38 (toyboy)

Feel free to leave me as a footnote to your table duggs as I am a bit different to the rest of you and might skew the stats (e.g.in such a small group my 12 cycles and counting without a BFP would substantially up the average).

Brownie would it be worth you getting a private scan? The cost might be worthwhile to relieve your anxiety.

Sorry you're feeling low Duggs - take care and keep up the data analysis! - the info you wanted - I have a son who died aged 2 1/2 (who would have been seven this weekend) and a daughter who is five - since then had six miscarriages. I had spotting for a day about three or four days before a BFP by the way ...

brownie - I understand exactly how you feel - most of my miscarriages were missed and I feel like I always knew but now I think I'm just negative. I have had lots of lower left twinging, no breast soreness and was fairly sure last weeks ten week scan would not be good news, however, all fine. So mean of them not to scan you but believe that this is going to be ok because I really think this treatment works!! The drugs are also causing all sorts of stomach issues and I had shocking cramping tonight very much helped by a bit of time on the loo!! Take care.

God Brownie, that sounds really stressful. I don?t know if it?s any consolation but I?ve had a lot of stretching and almost stabbing pains that I found quite alarming. I?m pretty sure it?s just normal ligament stretching but I can understand why you feel so worried. I hope you can keep yourself occupied until Monday.

Welcome Cornflakes!

Kittens ? I?m so sorry about the situation with your mum. It must be so hard trying to work out the logistics of getting that precious time with your mum/work/ttc. You sound like a brilliant daughter though.

Digi ? SPD sounds grim. Did you suffer with it with your ds too?

Amazing news Stogan. Really really happy for you!

Sounds promising Duggs! I?ll be watching with excitement over the next few days. BTW I?ve got a ds who is now 3 (and am pregnant now). I always get pregnant on the first or second try. I think it was the second try this time. I didn?t start the treatment until I was 6 weeks pregnant. Like Arian, Mr S thinks having my ds triggered my NKC and my underactive thyroid as well.

Cheerful ? Re the bleeding, I?m sure I had a friend who had some light bleeding when she was on cyclogest and she put it down to vaginal irritation. Could that be the case for you? I ended up opting for the, ahem, back entrance after feeling like I was constantly on the verge of an infection or something.

euro I think we can inhabit the same sliver of the pie chart!

I went into the GP surgery this evening to check whether my referral had been sent off for the fertility clinic and it hasn't. I've left a message for my GP and they said he will call me at lunchtime tomorrow. He's super helpful with prescriptions and the like, and very sweet but I can't help noticing this isn't the first time a referral hasn't happened when it should have. He didn't action my first referral request to the RMC last year either. I had to chase it. He also hasn't sent of my referral to the hospital about having my post op foot checked after the request from my podiatrist in August! Grrrr. A while back I asked another GP there to refer me to be checked for Ashermans. I don't think that got done either. But I will file that one for later if I have a problem TTC again. Nobody I've mentioned it to seems to think this is likely.

duggs sorry that you are feeling low. Sadly, no matter how delighted we are for our friends' pregnancies/new babies, it is still makes us feel heart wrenchingly sad for our own losses. One of my oldest friends had a baby this year. She had IVF because she'd not been able to conceive, a lot of which was very probably down to the terrible stress she'd been under over the years of loosing both her parents and then being in a car crash which meant she couldn't walk for a year. I was absolutely thrilled to bits for her when she had her baby, but it took me 10 weeks to be able to visit without getting upset.

Stogan, I can't remember whether I posted or just thought what great news that is about your scan. If I didn't post it, I meant to!

Thanks coconut for your kind words. I'm doing my best to keep spinning the plates and keep everything going! The biggest thing I'm struggling with this week is getting the motivation to do what I call "the hustle". Being self employed, I have to keep calling people up and trying to get work. That's really tricky, I'm feeling so emotional that the last thing I want to do is call up relative strangers and tell them how great I am!

Cornflakes - welcome, everyone on here is lovely if not a bit crazy!

Duggs, I have a 3 year old and have conceived 4 of my pregnancies (including my daughter) in the first month. 1 pregnancy was on the 2nd month TTC. I am 39 and my DH is 38. Dr S also said that her pregnancy switched on the NKC. Last month was my first of TTC on Dr S's plan but I ovulated late and my DH was away at the crucial time so there was no way I would have got a BFP. Don't feel too down as it will only be another couple of weeks before TTC again if it is your AF.

Fellow POAS and 2ww'ers - I also did a test this morning as am 9DPO and have been feeling really rough (another slap on the wrist)! Not sure if its the preds but I have been feeling really tired, sore boobs, slight nausea and indigestion as well as irritable. My mum says she always knows when I am preggers as says I am really moody (thanks mum!)

Did any of the pregnant ladies have any symptoms in the 2ww? It's driving me insane over analysing everything!

Kittens - sorry to hear about your mum, it must be so hard trying to keep calm and not get upset.

Stogan - great news on the scan, I can't believe how fast your pregnancy seems to be going now!

Brownie - cant you lie and say you did notice some blood? They cant prove it can they????

Kittens I have got to 12 wks twice before but had missed miscarriages at about 8 - 9 weeks both times. Felt pregnant with morning sickness and sore boobs all the way till 12 wks, just not the twinges. I will do what you say and take them as a positive sign that the bean is growning and all is well :) Iggi definitely using Iggi as my inspiration! Sorry you are having probs with your GP, it must be incredibly frustrating. My experiences have not been great with mine and having to chase is irksome to say the least. You shouldn't have to deal with that in addition to everything else.

Euro totally agree about the scan. I just don't want to have to come into London to do it. If I still feel nervous will book one for Friday. hope your appointment with Mr S comes good and he can help with ttc.

Comedy thank you for you kind words. It is so tough to see friends enjoying their pregnancies without having 'the fear'. Every time I start to dream about the future or touch my growing belly I have to slap myself with the imaginary tango hand to pull myself back. I know we all feel that way it just feels so unfair.

Coconut will defo try and keep myself occupied. Seeing a friend tomorrow that I haven't seen for 5 yrs and then am going to Islington Christmas Country Living Fair on Thursday to do my Crimbo shopping. Worth a visit if you haven't been before.

Waves to everyone else. X

Hey ladies thanks again for all your lovely words and support what an amazing day !

brownie my pains were sometimes similar to period pains but I remember having pains that I could only describe as elastic twanging inside my tummy on either side and in the middle, very strange an I was very worried too but MW confirmed normal ligament pain. I know nothing I say is going to make u feel 100% better sweetie but try to take a bit of comfort and relax. Massive hugs to u Hun, and to ur little one xxx

Sue my DH said that too, but am a rubbish liar :) I fold within minutes so never would of made good spy or criminal. Also I have a large haematoma that they identified when I went in at 6 wks so they told me not to stress about any bleeding.

I did get sore boobs early on and generally felt off. I tested 10 DPO and got BFP. Keeping fingers crossed for you

You too Stogan, stay strong x

Thanks Brownie! I generally dont tend to get an early BFP. With my 3 year old I was 8 weeks pregnant and had no idea as had no symptoms etc. I spotted around the time of my AF so thought I had a light one that month as had just come off the pill! I dont know why I tested early today as knew I wouldnt get a BFP but couldnt resist - I have no will power! My AF is due on Monday so time will tell but I am not expecting a BFP if there is one until a few days later judging on my last pregnancies.