Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your leathers, black nail polish, air guitar and jump in the mosh pit for some serious metalling. All welcome! (Part 18)

[Summerbird73]

New thread for some serious metalling. We are ramping up the amps and churning out some Metallica, Nirvana, ACDC, Stone Temple Pilots... with the occasional 90's rave music!!

If you have miscarried and are ready to TTC again, come and join us in the WTF cycles with the odd VIP ticket to the padded cell for some serious mentalling (now known as Metalling)

Welcome!

Yay yay yay afor iq and manda that is fantastic news!!
It is amazing how different the helathcare provision is, iq can you go and camp out at your MIL until the birth??

moomin I am with you on the scared front, in fact I am a bit tempted to not test for ages so as to delay the metalling a bit next month (and its xmas!!)

scarlett could that be a bit of implantation bleeding you have there?

poppy have you had any tests yet?

moomins it's ok (and expected!) to be excited and scared! Wishing lots of positive thoughts for you.

poppy Wha-?! You don't have any ic's to pee on? Have we taught you NOTHING?! Not sure I'd 'waste' a FRER at only 9dpo myself (remembers Blue's analogy of peeing on a five pound note....), especially the earliest I've seen a (only a crazy woman would see it) line is 10dpo.

pie Aw, shucks, I'm blushing now! Thanks

scarlett Yup, could be a little implantation bleed or could be general 'what the fuckery'. A little bit of time will tell though

poppy sorry I missed that you might be testing soon? I am also 9DPO, I am defintitely not testing at all for ages as I actually don;t want to know for a bit!

Morning all... manda to a little blue bundle!!! Sounds as though the clinic were excellent and worth the £'s for the reassurance you have from it! I looked at their website and have decided that if we have any cause for concern then I'll be telling DH that's where we're heading!!

I managed to get more sleep last night but still feel sooo tired and queasy this morning...Strange that in NY I didn't feel queasy at all, just hungry but didn't know what I wanted to eat, since I've been back the retching has started again...lovely...trying to see it as a good sign but am a little tired of it now TBH! Roll on Tuesday's scan!!! I told one of the girls at work yesterday after she witnessed part of my meltdown about the car park, didn't think she'd mention it to anyone else but transpires word is spreading fairly fast as a couple of the other secretaries then said congratulations in the afternoon... am sure I said we were still trying to keep it quiet though she obviously heard the almost 12 weeks bit and thought she had licence to tell others oh well...

moomins and far hang in there, I remember being pretty petrified starting TTC again after the MC but had to try and focus on the potential excitement too.

scarlett I totally agree with manda could be either but keep us posted!

poppy how are you doing? Did you decide to POAS or are you waiting for a few days?

IQ I did feel quite silly getting in such a tizz about there being nowhere to park and the potential of getting clamped if I left my car where I had found a space combination of being over-tired and pregnancy hormones isn't good for that sort of thing!!

Right...back to work...lots to do but can't really be bothered today...ho hum...

hi everyone

glad everything was ok manda. it was definatley money well spent.

iq it is amazing how different areas get different healthcare. luckily i live in an area that seems to look after women after mc but some of the stories i read are shocking.

blue how annoying that people at work know when you didn't want to tell them. that happened to me last time and i ended up having to tell loads more people than i would have liked when i did mc after the gossip got around. not sure i want to tell anyone next time.

poppy get yourself a load of ic's of amazon. order them today - they only cost a couple of quid and they might be here tomorrow. ordering loads of ic's is a sure fire way to tempt fate!!

not sure whats going on with my cycle this month. i have got loads of ewcm the last few days around the same time as last month. i had a bit of period type pain for a couple of hours last night (again, same as last time) but my temp hasn't gone up yet. i am on cd 21 today. last cycle i only had luteal phase of 7 days according to ff. if it's the same this month i might have to try the b vits to lengthen it. can anyone tell me about that?

not sure how to let you all see my graph - can anyone tell me?

Hi Peeps,

pebs I started taking 50mg of B6 (in addition to the 10mg in my conception vits) and got my BFP that month. Not sure if it's a co-incidence or not! I had been having low progesterone for a few months and it did seem to help (and i'm still taking it!). To share your FF chart I think there is an option at the top right to 'share' and you get a link?

blue Are you okay with people knowing? I think this time around we are going to wait as long as possible. If I can make it to 15 weeks without it being obvious then we probably will (getting waaaay ahead of myself here). With DS I didn't really start to show until about 18 weeks (but had serious stomach muscles then, now I have none just a blobby tummy!). Is it your 12w scan on Tuesday? How exciting!

eve will be thinking of you and your reassurance scan tomorrow, am sure everything is okay. Please let us know how you get on xx

C'mon poppy and shimmery test please! I got a very very faint postive at 9dpo once but it was much stronger at 10dpo. This time around I made myself wait until 11dpo (god knows how!)

moomins I know what you mean about being excited/scared! Excited to be TTC again but scared incase get BFP and the metalling starts!!

far are you on any extra vitamins/asprin etc now?

If all still seems to be okay next weekend I think we will pay for a reassurance scan. I can pay £100 and go locally or pay £45 and drive 90 minutes? Mmmmm. Dilemma! I am still not in the place where I think we might have a baby next year. I think it will take a lot for me to get to that place.

I am also having a silly vitamin supplements dilemma. I was taking the Zita West Vitafem vits (her TTC ones) but have almost finished them (along with extra D3 and 50mg of B6) am not sure whether or not to switch to Pregnacare or keep with the expensive Zita West 1st Trimester Vits. The ingredients do vary quite a bit. I like having a higher intake of B vitamins (guess it's because I got the BFP when taking them!). I know you should take an equal amount of B6 in mg = B12 in mcg but not sure about the other B vits being of an equal amount? I'm guessing not as Folic Acid is 400mg? There is also no calcium in pregnacare - was it manda that was talking about the benefits of calcium supplements? I miscarried last time about a week after stopping all my vit supplements (except Folic Acid) and shit scared that the same thing will happen again this time when I change to a different brand. I KNOW I'M BEING NEUROTIC! :(

DP is away on a stag weekend (they are having hip hop dancing lessons!) so will be on my tod with a very energetic and just starting the terrible two's DS! :) Going to miss my lie-in!

Happy Weekends! xx

Pebs I am taking 100mg of Vit B complex, and agnus castus and my ovulation date was brought forward by 6 days this cycle. My LP was time was 11 days so hoping that they will help to lengthen that a bit too - the next few days will tell!

Far I didn't realise we were both 9 dpo - fingers crossed for us both

Ok, I did use one of the First Responses this morning and (of course) nothing. I know its early though so I am not discouraged yet. I don't have any ics as previous cycles I have been completely obsessed like a mad woman holding them up to the light etc etc and I promised DH I would stay a bit calmer from now on. I now have 1 FR, and 3 CB Digis so I will see if I can hold off tomorrow and test with the FR on Sunday if AF hasn't shown up.

chart:
www.fertilityfriend.com/home/374325

where did you get the b vits from - can you post me a link!

Thanks

pebs holland & barrett sell B6 in 50mg or 100mg bottles or as part of a B Vitamin Complex :)

I am also on the Bvits and the zita west pre conception

pie I understand the paranoia, I also switched to pregnacare and althoguh I know realistically that was not the cause I think the Zita ones are a lot higher quality and I will be sticking with them next time!! Also pregnacare made me feel ill.

No extras for me, when I get the BFP I have to start taking Heparin daily until 25 weeks. Then they do a scan (not sure what for) and from that decide whether I can stop or have to keep taking it then they scan every 2 weeks and keep checking blood flow to the placenta.

Having said that I have got my NHS referal through as well now, went yesterday and they are doing some tests the private consultant does not, notably the immune cells/NK cells. Will see what they say but results won't be in for 8 weeks and I really hoping to be pregnant again by then!!

poppy its way too early to test, sit on your hands lady! I also very tempted as I have 50 IC tests at home but I am pretty certain I am out this month and I ovulated late and we did not time the SWI very well. DH would have to have some serious swimmers!!

blue that really is most annoying, how cheeky! Havnig said that all will be well this time ((hugs)))

Where did you get the Zita West vits, farfalla and pie? Also thinking of making mrleedy take some kind of multivitamin.

I never did well with Pregnacare because the enormous horse tablets made me gag once I was pregnant...

leedy I found the cheapest place to be here for Zita West vits:

www.expresschemist.co.uk/Zita-West.html

I tried pregnacare before and had to crush them up and take them with yoghurt! They are mashoosive! My only concern with the Zita West 1st Trimester ones is the 12mg of Vitamin E which I think is quite high (there is quite a lot online about not taking Vitamin E in pregnancy). Ho Hum. Who said it was easy!

Thanks for that!

should i just take b6 or the complex?

please can i have an idiots guide to taking b vits to extend my feable 7 day luteal phase!!

Evening all, I have just stuck to plain old folic acid this time as I'm sure the pregnacare was making me feel more sick and I was struggling to swallow them without gagging! I do think I might try them again in a few weeks though as I stocked up on them before I realised they weren't really working for me and don't really want to waste them as they were expensive! Think they may also have affected my bowels and made me constipated as I haven't needed to eat prunes since I stopped taking them either!

Re. people knowing we have told a select few close friends and family who all knew about the MC and they have been a great support. After the 8wk scan we told a couple more people. I would have prefered it not to be so widely known at work as in the hopefully unlikely case that something does go wrong then suddenly everyone would probably know why I was off again...but providing all is well on Tuesday (last time was MMC found at 12w scan but had gone wrong at 5-6wks so the 8wk scan showed we'd already got further than last time) then I'm not too worried about more people knowing, just that I would've liked to tell them myself since it's my news!!

eve thinking of you for tomorrow...hope all is well

Just realised did baby have her scan this morning?!? Wonder how she got on???

Hope everyone had good weekends...

pebs I am taking the complex just to cover my bases, and I think it was Manda who was the Vit B guru - so over to you Manda !

Blue I think I mentioned before Pregnacare made me feel really dodgy when pg with DS, I am taking them now though and suffering no ill effects but I think I'll switch to something else when/if I do get a bfp.

Far I know its early to test I have no willpower sometimes . At least knowing that the tests I have left are expensive will prevent me from wasting any more! I would be a nightmare with the internet cheapies I am sure.

Thinking of you eve and baby - hope all is well

Pebs I had a look at your chart. Do you know if there was any reason you might have had those high temps on CD10/12/13? Looks to me like your body took a while to settle back in to a normal rhythm after AF, this happens to me too. I get rocky temps until about a week before ovulation when things seem to settle down to a normal low pre-O range which then shows a nice rise. This ties in with your EWCM too, hope you get a rise soon! Late ovulation is such a pain in the proverbial!

PEBS I think the complex is best as apparently b6 is quite hard to absorb on its own, it needs the other B vits to help it along.

H&B B100 also has the right amount of folic acid as well.

FX for baby

poppy I hope you manage to hold out this weekend, and me too and hopefully we will both be having lovely July babies :)

pebs I am taking the B6 on its own but only because there is quite a high dose of all of the other B vits in my multi vitamin, otherwise I would take a complex.

baby hope the scan went well! please jump on and let us know how you get on!

I am craving salty and sour things like S&V crisps and chip shop onions which makes me think if I get a baby at the end of all of this then it will be team blue (getting waaaaaaay ahead of myself but just noticed the similarities in munchies between DS & this pregnancy).

Evening all

Just popped in to see if Baby was ok, hope she is celebrating somewhere.

DP is home so pleased he is back he is upset that I didn't tell him in the week - understandably but he wouldof worried and rushed back and I know there is nothing to achieve by that.

Thank you for the kind thoughts - all PG symptoms have completely gone, so not holding out much hope. sorry to be so don just got to be realistic.

Hope everyone had a great weekend planned :-)

eve how many weeks are you? From what i've read it's not uncommon for pregnancy symptoms to come and go, plus you've seen a heartbeat at 8 weeks which really reduces the chances of having a miscarriage. What time is your scan tomorrow? xx

hello everyone and sorry for the delay - I had the scan and I was shaking (the staff were fab though) and ITS ALIVE!
The (male) sonographer put the gel on at first and didn't say anything and I thought 'oh oh' but then, after what seemed like an hour but was prob two mins, he turned the screen round and said 'this is your bladder, this here is your uterus and this little blob here is a baby'. Well, it's almost as if this this was the last thing I was expecting (he said after it was a good job he told me when I was laying down!) as I gasped 'a baby' and he said, drily, 'well, it's certainly not a giraffe.' Well, that's a relief!
I am still a bit all over the place now, I think as the last time I had a scan it showed that the baby had actually stopped developing at 6/7 weeks but I still had full on symptoms, I was half braced for the same again. It was amazing to see this little blob, 22mm long, with a tiny beating heart, and made it seem really weird (in a good way.) It seems SO much more real now, although I still can't quite get my head around the fact that there is something, someone, actually in there.

Manda that is fab news, so glad it went well and you're feeling so much more reassured.

Eve I am thinking of you for tomorrow and I have everything crossed. xx

Blue I am with you on how irritating it is for other people to be spreading your news. I had the same previously with my mother, which really annoyed me (my mother was crap all the way through until it went wrong and then she was brilliant, which is better than nothing I suppose.) She told my sister, aunt and uncle and lots of her friends and this ended up with us telling my grandparents as I didn't want them to be the last to know, and to be weeks behind everyone else. As we had told a few friends too my mother was quite dismissive and kept saying that we seem to have told lots of people, as if that made it okay for her to, and she seemed immune to the concept that it was not her news to tell. Due to this, she won't be knowing for a while this time, and will probably find out at the same time as 'everyone else.'

We have not started on the kitchen yet as DH has been away and I am clueless but hope to get the floor sorted soon. The walls are plastered so can be simply painted when the floor's done so am hoping it won't be as long a job as the bathroom was. We have the sink / units / tiles etc already in the loft so don't need to buy anything else.

eve I am holding onto hope for you. If only because with DS1 after initally KNOWING I was pregnant before I was even due on because of symptoms, they vanished and I never would have known but for the bump that started growing eventually (oh, and bleeding that started at 15w from a low placenta...). Seriously, no symptoms at all. I so, so hope you get reassurance tomorrow.

Ah, baby wonderful news! You see what I mean about you're more in denial than you imagine you are until you actually SEE it, and its heart is flickering away?

Speaking of giraffes... missG? Where are youuuuuuuu?

And I'm worried marathon hasn't updated after her 20 weeks scan although hoping she's just had issues getting online.

Darn, only just seen my call to B vitamins arms! Farrrrrrr to tired to go into now. Suffice to say it IS better to take a complex as they all work hand in hand together, and additionally a deficiency in one can be masked by taking just another.

My bones are tired!

babysaurus, that's lovely news!