Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your leathers, black nail polish, air guitar and jump in the mosh pit for some serious metalling. All welcome! (Part 18)

[Summerbird73]

New thread for some serious metalling. We are ramping up the amps and churning out some Metallica, Nirvana, ACDC, Stone Temple Pilots... with the occasional 90's rave music!!

If you have miscarried and are ready to TTC again, come and join us in the WTF cycles with the odd VIP ticket to the padded cell for some serious mentalling (now known as Metalling)

Welcome!

[InsomniaQueen]

Come on over ladies - we have cake and drinks in the foyer!!!!

xxx

[Poppyjen]

SHINY NEW THREAD

[MsEltoeNWhine]

So sorry Martha

I hope we can all make it over to a shiny (metallic ) thread soon!

AF hasn't shown her evil face round here yet, but expecting anytime - CD29....nearly 30

No POAS till Christmas

I have tests in the cupboard too..........

[InsomniaQueen]

*Martha I'm shaking my fist in rage on your behalf, but second everyone's suggestions for forbidden cheese (oh the sweet taste of brie) and lots of bubbly over the Xmas period also 'super jel' (another of my DSis catch phrases) of your boxing day hotel........sounds like the perfect place to 'catch up with each other' !!

Thanks for all your advise on my current situation - I've spoken to DH and we've agreed that we will see how I feel but that he must respect my feelings at the moment and try to understand why I would be a bit put off doing this again.

As for a new thread name we might want to add those just conceived post MC and looking for somewhere to hide, that way we cover everyone currently on the thread.

I'm soooo in love with these they are fab fab fab. I also forgot to say that DH and I are off for a 4D scan tomorrow - a bit scared (why I don't know as I can currently feel her kicking my bladder) but I suppose that feeling of lying on the bed and waiting to SEE a heartbeat won't ever go away. Will report back on how it all goes tomorrow........DH is really excited "to see his daughter properly and not just the blob thing we saw at 9 weeks"......bless him!!!

[PieMistress]

GRRRRRR to AF martha How dare she - evil beatch!

Ditto manda's wise words!

PC playing up so have to keep this brief! Am thinking of everybody :)

The wind here is horrendous! Christmas decorations on the main high street have blown down onto the pavement/road and the dual carriadgeway home has flooded! Our office building is actually moving, makes me feel a bit sick!

[MarthasHarbour]

poppy i nicked it off the last thread!!!

feel free to plagiarise as i did

[Poppyjen]

Ok ladies this is getting critical, 975 posts (inc this one)....we really do need a new thread but I am buggered if I can think of anything quite so catchy as the title of this one (thank you Summer/Marthas )

Any ideas anyone?

[BlueCrane]

marthas more boo hissing to AF here but liking the sound of the festive plans...Christmas work do, excessive amounts of pate, stilton, brie and other such luxuries which I am desperate to eat as they are some of my fav Christmas treats and to top it off a night in a hotel at hopefully just the right time

manda great news on your Consultant visit and what a treat to get another glimpse of beany in there!!

I keep thinking it's Friday today which is a bit pants as it's clearly still only Thursday think it's just wishful thinking as I am sooo tired Sorry not to check up on everyone else but brain pretty useless today so I'd get you all mixed up somehow if I tried so I'm just going to instead for the moment

[MarthasHarbour]

fanx poppy



i havent said 'fanny pad' since i was 14!!!!!!

[MarthasHarbour]

aaaand DH and I have booked a hotel for boxing day night as my mums house is overcrowded - methinks a liddle bottle of champagne and a bubble bath is in order

[MarthasHarbour]

Manda loving this quote:

'Right, your christmas can be properly festive, with all the lovely, lovely pate and alcohol your heart could desire . Secondly, how lovely to conceive a christmas baby - you'll be o'ing just before the big day! And don't know if the school system works the same way for you but a sept due date is vair desirable dahn sarrf as it means the child will be the oldest in the school year and so have an advantage over the littlies of the year!'

It is pretty much verbatim to what i have just emailed DH!! We are going to have cured meats and stilton n brie tomorrow night and i will get trollied at the xmas do next week!

And yes - where we live it is rather pre requisite to have a Sept-Dec baby! Although DS is a June birthday we have already established that he is a genius child anyway

[Poppyjen]

marthas boo and hiss to AF - doesn't she know it is the festive season?? So sorry, it is completely crap.

I echo all that Manda said though

[MandaHugNKiss]

Right, your christmas can be properly festive, with all the lovely, lovely pate and alcohol your heart could desire . Secondly, how lovely to conceive a christmas baby - you'll be o'ing just before the big day! And don't know if the school system works the same way for you but a sept due date is vair desirable dahn sarrf as it means the child will be the oldest in the school year and so have an advantage over the littlies of the year!

Blah. I can put all the spin I like on it... (and that stuff is true) but I know it's crap. So sorry af has arrived, the stupid unwelcome cow that she is.

[leedy]

[MarthasHarbour]

Bugger that i need a stiff Baileys in my just been to the loo and have got some AF spotting

thats me out this month

[MarthasHarbour]

IQ i cannot really add anything further to what manda leedy and wellies have said, i agree that DH and MIL mean well but i can imagine you feel a liddle patronised, i am sure that is not their intention. And you are not being stupid, i think you are just taking one step at a time and as has been said you just need to be a bit open minded. and if that means no more babies or 3 more then so be it!

Oh leedy if you had met me a month after my MC you would have met a raging hormonal bag of fireworks ready to explode at any minute! thankfully i have an understanding DH

OK so it is crunch time. I am CD27 and 14DPO the next two days are a killer and my frickin DM and DDad are coming tomorrow so no chance of metalling with them around (which is prob a good thing). I am going to POAS on Sat afternoon if AF hasnt shown up. I had some potential AF pains on Tuesday night but nothing since, although i am getting the CM which i usually get just before AF (although i did get that before i POAS with DS... )

Still prodding (.)(.)s trying-not to do it at my desk though and imagining stretchy pains in my tum.

Actually thank god my parents are coming tomorrow otherwise i would be on full metal throttle.

Right off to knicker-check the loo

[MsEltoeNWhine]

Great news manda.

IQ I really hate being pregnant and I don't much like babies either.

I really enjoy parenting though, and love the little person I've created. DD is five and my proper little pal. It's hard to say what might happen in the future, just go with today.

leedy I was okay I think, but I don't suffer much with PMT.

How you doing Martha?

I am 11DPO and CD28, no sign of AF yet.

[MandaHugNKiss]

IQ The feelings you have now are real, and based in experiences you're having right now. And whilst you may feel the same for many years (or, even, forever) it's also more than possible your feelings will change over time. Mother Nature wants us to reproduce, and because of that she has a way of handing us some rose-tinted specs some time after the event and as we look back we think 'it was bad, but it wasn't that bad...' and because we're not actually in it anymore we are more our strong, fighting selves who feel able to handle aversity (rather than struggling to get through it). hence we start thinking 'Actually... I think I want to do it again!'

I'm not telling you your ILs or Dh are right, no way. As I said, your feelings are real and need to be acknowledged. But just be open minded enough to know that one day you may feel differently. And leave it there! There is no need to get stress yourself about what may or may not happen in the future. to you.

Leedy I always get The Rage for a day or two before so I can't remember if it was worse! But yay for wtf being over!

wellies I have every faith you won't need to 'give up' because it's going to work out this time.

So! I just got back from the hospital after a consultant appointment which I thought was going to be a massive waste of time. I was wrong! First, the consultant agreed immediately that I ought to be managed better this time, iv antibiotics started before they induce me to avoid what happened with DS2. He also said at 38 weeks, he's prepared to induce (which given DS2 was 9lb 12oz (? GD? I will also asked to be tested this time) will avoid another whopper...). I might, depending on how big the baby is shaping up to be get them to hold out until 39/40. But I went into spontaneous labour with DS2 (first time! Probably his size) at 40+2 so I probably don't have much leeway to hang on and will probably still respond well to prostin as I have done twice before at 39weeks.

So, firstly, I was heard and a tentative plan is shaping up. Bloody relief!

Then... let's find the heartbeat, he says. So I'm expecting a doppler. No, there is a mini scan machine by the bed! It was literally one minute scan, but I saw baby moving about lots and, alive and well. Unexpected, lovely, lovely bonus.

I'm a happy manda today! (despite this cold still kicking me in the ass!)

[welliesandpyjamas]

Oh yes leedy, I most certainly did! It was not a pretty sight!

[leedy]

InsomniaQueen, doesn't sound stupid at all. Imaginary ideal farting unicorns future pregnancies are one thing, future pregnancies when you know how tough and exhausting it can be are another. Which is not to say that you mightn't change your mind (I was totally NEVER AGAIN for a few months after I had DS, but I was dealing with PND and now I know even if it happens again it's treatable), but you might not, and regardless it's still a perfectly valid thing to think!

In me me me news: PERIOD! Never been so excited to see it in my life - the WTF cycle is over, at a mere 33 days. This would explain (in addition to having been actually ill) why I've spent the last couple of days feeling bloated and intensely rageous, wouldn't it? Did anyone else get apocalyptically narky PMT before their first post-m/c period?

Time to start charting again....

[welliesandpyjamas]

Insomnia Given the emotional rollercoaster of miscarriage followed by prergnancy, it is absolutely no surprise you feel like that. After my first, I felt like that for years, that I'd stick with just the one, and that was simply due to the shock of parenting but I changed with time, and now look, I'm trying for a third! Nobody but you can know how you are feeling, or how you will feel in the future. Just give it time and don't give yourself something extra to fret about now. Sounds like your DH and MIL are trying to be reassuring and kind...I'd just "smile and wave", accept their reassurances gracefully and just wait. No one says you have to have more dc. I can understand your reluctance to put yoursefl through the potential pain of loss. If I were to miscarry again, I think I would give up on the whole thing, tbh, so I understand where you are coming from.

[InsomniaQueen]

Martha stay strong not too long now and you can POAS - I totally understand your metalling but just stay in the mosh pit, were all here for you.

mseltoe your 'nesting' sounds promising - wish I had the strength for nesting. At the moment the nursery is a room full of carrier bags of clothes that I have been spending far too much money on BUT in my defence if DH was awake to talk with in the middle of the night I would be able to stay away from online shopping . keep us updated with all goings on!!

pie don't worry about lurking - sometimes it helps to take a little step back and obviously your always welcome with the moshers so we shall just save you a place until you feel ready.

blue how is the manic work schedule going??? How are you feeling in yourself?

I'm currently awake as the LO has decided that now is a good time to practise her boxercise!! DSis was again entertaining me with her pg related commentary, we were chatting last night and I was huffing and puffing down the phone. I explained I was trying to turn myself over and she said that having experienced me turning over I should get some sort of winch (sp?) which could roll me over just like they do with whales ect when they need transporting. Oh and we went for dinner the other night and she described me as "a stick man with a boiled egg stuck on the front" .......wasn't really sure how to take it but I think this is her way of complimenting me on the fact that so far the only things that's grown on me is my bump and boobs!!!!

Question for you lovely ladies as I need advise and don't think people in RL are listening to me.

I said to DH that I don't think I want another baby (I accept this one isn't here yet and therefore this is not a done deal) but if it all goes ok I dont feel like I could cope with doing this all over again. He keeps saying "that I'm just feeling down because of things at the moment" when he mentioned it to his mum she was like "oh dont say that - you never know how you will feel once this one arrives". I always wanted a big family and DH said no more than two, I was upset but I accepted his reasons. Now I don't feel like I want another and everyone is treating me like I'm being stupid. Am I being stupid to feel that the stress of TTC, work pressure, my ever deteriorating health and frequent flyer miles at the hospital arent a good enough reason not to want to do this again???

[MarthasHarbour]

The parentals will be here till lunchtime on Sat so I may test later that day, if no AF that is

Right off to bed, night all x

[MsEltoeNWhine]

Yay Baby! Good news!

Can I join the metalling I'm Scarlett by the way, just feeling a little festive!

I'm DPO - CD27. Expecting AF tomorrow or Thursday.

Don't feel at all pre-menstrual or emotional. In fact I feel very practical and have been insanely, unstoppably cleaning my house. Down to everything out of cupboards and furniture moving. I have no idea why I am doing this.

I do have the usual hormonal spots, however. Boobs couldn't care less whether I prod them or no. But my tummy is strangely firm.....normally it wobbles but in a flat kind of way, this week it's been sticking out in a firm kind of way.

Pissed as a fart last Friday (is this some kind of secret handshake?)

[PieMistress]

I will be here at 7am 8am on Saturday !