Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your leathers, black nail polish, air guitar and jump in the mosh pit for some serious metalling. All welcome! (Part 18)

[Summerbird73]

New thread for some serious metalling. We are ramping up the amps and churning out some Metallica, Nirvana, ACDC, Stone Temple Pilots... with the occasional 90's rave music!!

If you have miscarried and are ready to TTC again, come and join us in the WTF cycles with the odd VIP ticket to the padded cell for some serious mentalling (now known as Metalling)

Welcome!

Thanks marthasharbour. if only we could get rid of them but we can only do what the council's legal team allow the school to do. The parents have, in the past, been warned and been banned before for a couple of terms but it is never indefinitely. Their children can't be excluded for their parents' antisocial behaviour, of course. The most frustrating thing is, as you saw in the story, that they don't actually understand how badly they behave.

the bit that got me was where the mother was saying that it wasnt that bad really and blown out of all proportion, then she mentions throwing a bike at someone but it was ok because it missed!!

I know she's a dream, I tell you!

wellies I know I should not laugh but wow, you really could not make it up could you?

Hugs to missscarlett

blue still thinking of you and hoping all is well?

poppy do you think the B vits could have made a difference so quicky? Wow!!
pebs sorry AF got you

Still smiling about pie and hope she is enjoying her hols despite the metalling!

blue I can't believe you are that far along already, almost there (sort of)

shimmery sounds like a lovely hen night. Mine was AWFUL.
Got to a remote cottage in Somerset and there was no food planned and no table booked for dinner at the local pub so suprise suprise, we did not eat. I am too old for all that drinking with no food malarky!
There were some lovely girls there but the hen's school friends were the most bizarre bitchy group of people I have ever met. Lots of giggling and sniggering and mean comments about the girl who organised it. It was badly organised but that was totally uncalled for. Friend and I made our escape on Sunday morning sharpish!

Also feeling utterly glum today. TTC for 10 months with only 2 early MCs to show for it. Its totally getting me down today and I feel tearful and anxious and panicking we might never be parents and that is not a life I can even begin to consider. I know I am getting ahead of myself. I hate the fact we are not even trying this month as I just feel like we are not even in the race but I know it makes sense for all sorts of reasons.

to top it all off my acne has got terrible and its like a constant visual reminder of my fucked up hormones.

Anyway, I need a kick up the arse (!!!)

farfallarocks sorry you had a dodgy hen do. Hopefully you can look back and laugh! Sorry you're feeling down, it must be hard to have two MC close together but I have everything crossed for you for the future - you'll get there - it's a marathon not a sprint.

That story is crazy Martha's Harbour!

welliesandpyjamas - I am using the day of the MC, though my waters broke two days earlier. I actually feel like I might be ovulating now-ish though it seems silly to think I've gotten back to normal that fast. I have little clue what's going on but I was trying to track my ovulation for the months prior to conceiving so I got to 'know' the signs and I feel the same. Even if it's only the hormones and not ovulation as such.

Maybe I should have more time but I can't see that way forward, only this one. Glad to know there's lots of us just soldiering on.

Far frankly no I don't believe it, it would be incredible in the true sense of the word to go from such late ovulation to such early ovulation! I think that fertility friend has got its algorithms in a twist because of my weird cold-related temps. Also I am still getting EWCM so I think it is highly unlikely that I am 5dpo like it says. When I conceived DS (on first month off the pill ) I ovulated on CD21 so that is what I am counting as "normal" for me so I am hoping that the Bvits and the agnus castus will bring me closer to that point - which is this coming Thursday so I guess there will be no early night with my book these next few days....

Also, Far I think I know how you feel. It has been 8 months for us now and one early mc and a chemical pg. I feel so low about it sometimes, but a good friend reminded me the other day that I am just at the beginning of the journey, there are so many options left to try if things don't sort themselves out (she was speaking from experience, and 2 IVF babies...) so I am clinging to that thought to keep the positive mental attitude Hope you feel better about things soon!

far you could be me. we have been TTC 10 months and i have had a 10 week MC and a Chemical Pregnancy too. Today i was also thinking should we throw the towel in. We are in the very fortunate position that we have DS (sorry if that sounds like it is rubbing it in - it certainly isnt my intention) so i think should we be grateful for what we have (which of course we are but YSWIM). Hang on in there, it takes some people months/years but they get there. I know it seems like a lifetime but hopefully this is a blip.

Oooh...galaxy chocolate

wellies that sounds like a nightmare - there's always one who spoils everything. can't believe you need police outside a primary school.

far really sorry to hear you are feeling so down. you have got your results next week though IIRC. make sure you get a plan of action before you leave the room then you know what you will be doing next. do you chart?

i have have two mc's in the last year as well. i started trying in may 2010 and still not got any nearer to getting my first baby.

sounds like the hen do was a nightmare! i went on a hen do from hell a few years ago with a friend. it was one of her workmates getting married so we didn't know anyone. all her friends and family were arguing and we got thrown out of a nightclub - never again!

i am feeling a bit down this week as my friend had a baby on sunday and mine should have been due next month. i was really upset on sunday night. my dh wants to wait until xmas before ttc but i want to do it now. i pushed him into doing it earlier than he wanted the last two times so i do want to let him have a go at 'his way' this time but it is driving me mad waiting. if he even tries to put it off any longer than xmas though he will be in big trouble!!

i keep thinking i might never get pg again. it's totally irrational as i am not even trying but i can't help thinking it.

my luteal phase was only 7 days last cycle according to ff but i wasn't doing my temps perfectly, kept getting out of bed and talking etc. i now set my mobile phone alarm to go off a couple of mins before my proper alarm so it reminds me to do it properly. i will see what happens in this cycle.

af has left the building, she was only with me for three days so that was ok. just going to watch my temps and hope for ov around day 14.

morning gals, feeling soooo much better this morning, was so miserable yesterday, thanks for letting me vent. Results next Thurs, hopefully we will have a plan in place after that.

poppy your PMA has rubbed off on me now, thank you

martha thank you for your kind words, don't give up, we will get there soon!
Sounds like its so normal to have these highs and lows all the time.
blue I am planning a holiday baby in November in that case :)
pebs, poor you, I can only imagine what you are going through with such a late MC, I really feel for you, especially with your friend having a baby so close together, its just so hard.

I would not worry about 7 day lp if you are not certain that the temps were correct? Can you use some OPKs as back up?

Why does your DH want to wait? Could you convince him to not try but not prevent in the run up to xmas?
I don't chart but use OPKs and the CB fertility monitor. I also get EWCM and sore boobs the day after a positive OPK so I think I in business in terms of knowing when I am ovulating!

huge hugs to you

my dh wants to wait a while to get my cycles back in order and give me a break from being pg. i was pregnant for 8 months with just a couple of months gap in the middle. he thinks it's not good for me (which it probably isn't).

i can't say lets not try but not prevent as we have never actually 'tried' to get pg. it just happened both times so he will not have a clue what is involved in trying! we spoke about it last week and we will look at it in december to tie it in with my cycles, there's no point saying lets start on 1st jan if i have ov'd on 30th december. i am hoping to have af next month then stop using contraception. will see what he says to that!

might try the opks next cycle just to see what happens. i have never tried them before. think i will get the clearblue ones so i can see the smiley face!

Yes DH is probably right to be honest, although great that it does not take you long to get pregnant.

The :) on clear blue are ridiculously exciting I must admit. I could not get on with the internet cheapies, I could never really interpret them.

Do buy them on amazon though, they are considerably cheaper!

don't you just hate it when they are right! my consultant said i should take my high dose folic for a couple of months first as well. i don't think you have to but it's recommended.

will order some clearblues then. what time of day do you do them? i notice on the internet cheapies that people are doing them durign the day at work - i don't want to do that!

pebs I know the feeling, like you are just standing still but in the grand scheme of things an extra couple of monthes, espcially if you fall quickly and you are fitter and stronger for the next one, are nothing.

I do the monitor thingy in the morning as it has to be FMU.

Then when it approaches rough ovulation (Normally between day 13 and 15) so from day 11 I test in the evening with the CB smiley ones as well.

I know its overkill but sometimes the surge only lasts 6 hours so if you were only testing once a day you might miss it. I am trying to increase my LP with b vits etc so am trying to track it a bit!!!

Feel ropey as all get out.

So, I'll be brief:

far my lp was very affected by my mmc/induction/subsequent near death experience! My lp was always 14 days with af arriving day 15. For the four months afterwards it was 8/9 days. I fell pregnant the fifth cycle, so I assume that's the month I straightened out. Patience is something we all struggle with but it's really a case of doing what you can (the b vits, relaxing as much as possible) and... letting go. You WILL straighten out eventually. Hang in there.

poppy I looked at your chart yesterday, i think... doesn't look like O to me, looks like whacky illness temps. I was going to say that I would hope/expect your O to come forward by maybe 10 days... so cd mid 20's or so. It seems you are thinking the same! Let's hope we're right.

Ladies struggling: I wish I could wave a magic wand for you. But this is a journey, and brighter times ARE ahead. It's never all doom and gloom; you all have reserves of strength you don't necessarily know you have... but they're there. I am looking forward to the sun shining for all of you.

That's me done for now. I am veering between feeling STARVED and weak, because I'm really eating hardly anything - because when I eat I feel sick, sick, sick. With a side of god-awful. So I avoid eating. Dropped two kilos in the last couple of weeks... Exactly how I was with DD: if this isn't a girl, I'll eat my hat.

Oh, Matrix live was great.

Manda I agree with you - and actually when I put my temp in this morning it removed the red lines - I hope it will happen in the next few days...we'll see Wish I felt better though, I don't feel as bad as at the weekend but I felt terrible today. You really learn how to access the reserves of energy you didn't know you had when you are ill and have sole charge of a 19mo having a tantrum day! Now I am faced with a house that looks like it has been ransacked by blindfolded burglars and I have yet to put the dishwasher on... oh the joys

Hope you have all had good tuesdays!

Hi ladies, sorry for not posting I'm away from home visiting with my niece and can't get on line so I'm using my phone which is poor for this sort of thing!!

Hope all of you are doing ok - for all of you who are feeling a bit low - sending positive vibes and hugs to you all!!

For all of those feeling sick - poor you - it will get better (hopefully soon)!!

Love to all xxx

Hello ladies!

Sat in the garage waiting for my car to pass its MOT (she says hopefully) so thought I'd pop on.

Sorry some of you are feeling down, please don't give up hope. The stats are all in your favour. That applies especially to you Martha/summer, you had that chemical pregnancy recently so something is working, it just needs to stick. Don't give up or I'll set manda on to you (now if that's not scary...).

Happy belated birthday IQ, hope you had a lovely time.

Has anyone been following the thread by a lady called badnails? Her waters broke really early at 22ish weeks. She's been posting for the last few weeks about it. The baby stayed alive and inside against all the odds. It's such a sad but also uplifting thread as the docs said there was no chance but the baby has defied them. She was born this morning at 25+3 I think, I'm not sure what the chances are of survival but I'm really hoping she comes through. Have been quite emotional following her story.

No news with me, thought I was feeling the baby moving but it stopped a week ago. Can hear the heartbeat with my Doppler so not too worried. IQ when's your 20 week scan? Are you going to find out what you're having?

Sending lots of double deckers (choc of the day) and waves to everyone!

Double deckers..... now you've started something! They are my favourite

Good luck with the MOT Marathon - haven't seen the thread you talk about, I'll have a look. Just goes to show that you can never predict what's going to happen, not even the doctors can sometimes. Really hope there is a good outcome.

Not much news from me today, still getting EWCM so no ovulation (or early night!) for me yet... My mum sent me a book the other day called "what your doctor won't tell you about pre-menopause" or something like that. NOt as scary as it sounds, it is about what happens to your hormones between the age of 30 and when you have menopause, so quite a long time span really.

It is fascinating and really strikes a chord re difficulty conceiving, miscarriage etc. It talks a lot about how to use supplements to balance things out, and natural progesterone cream etc. Just started reading so I'll let you all know if its worth a look

The one thing I have gleaned so far extremely clearly is that our bodies are definitely designed to produce children with the least amount of fuss (bodies, not children...that would be too much to ask!) when we are in our early twenties... oops. oh well....

Just read Badnails' thread. Now blubbing my eyes out.... what an amazing story! Puts things into perspective a bit....

I have been following the badnails thread, very inspirational and I so hope it works our for her!!

poppyjen is that book by John lee? I have a similar one I think on natural progesterone. A lot of what he says makes sense although I did have some concerns at his statement that all luteal phases are 14 days, hmmmmmm

Afternoon all

Sorry I have been absent I have had my mum visiting. I seem to of missed loads. I won't even try to catch up.

Pie :-) hope all is going well with you?

We seem to have a few new faces. sorry you ladies have joined us, but I hope your stay is short for the right reasons. We all know how the bad days get you. So this is a good place to come and vent.

Hope everyone is ok, I have been feeling sick, although yesterday it completely passed so now doing my sweede completely in.

Saw the GP on Monday she was very nice and wished us well, I said we were just going to wait and see what happens (like we have a choice) and she said many ladies have children in their late 30's early 40's no trouble.

Just got to sit it out and see, we are 8+6 want to get to the 12 scan but know it will fill me be complete dread too.

Off to look in the fridge and see if there is anything in there I want to eat!

Answering bluecrane's question a couple of days ago, I finally got my arse in grar and bought a preg test, and just got the BFN, 16 days after the MC. Thank you for reminding me to do it, because now if I need to test again in a few weeks [optimistic] I'll know it'll be a reliable answer! Funny how a BFN can give a happy, positive, sense of relief on these occasions, like it is a bit of a green light to look forwards!

grar gear

Afternoon all

wellies so glad you have got your BFN...it does bring a strange sense of relief and great to get it so quickly - took me 4.5weeks after the ERPC!!

I just scrolled up the thread to read and respond to all your posts but I'm afraid my brain is far too mush like to manage individual responses at the moment...sorry ladies...I will try again later or tomorrow.