Assisted Conception (and all the bits in between) volume 8

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Looks like we need a new thread for Italian, Scrummy, Beginnings, womanly, lissy, rowing, fretfree, Teds77, keziah, frustrated and anyone else who wants to chat about assisted conception!

Well came off the clomid last week (Thursday) so despite my negative Mood about the chance of ovulation this
Month hubby and I are swi this week and next week. I have a blood test for progesterone next Friday so we'll see, if it's not over 30 (last month was 12 after a string of 1.2's) will go for a scan ready for injections. They said it was the same as they use do ivf will keep you updated when I hear next week hope everyone else is going better?

Still umming and aring about the acupuncture can't quite bring myself to go in and find out about it

Just a brief msg from my phone to say I've got er tomorrow am. I'm trying not to get excited but can't help it.

Hi all

Welcome Pinkapples

Rowing November, exciting, thinking of you and so much want this to work for you.

Lucy, what news? Are we going to be cycle buddies, I?ll be October.

Keziah Thinking of you

lissy, thinking of you too honey.

Mojangles how is it going?

level, Wellerbabe Scrummy, Rowing, Teds77, Pocket, Beginnings, Flip, Val, Womanly, woowa, fretfree, marmite, frustrated, level and Pumpkinjoy - baby dust hi to all.

level hope the er goes well today.

All the best for er level. sounds like it's been going very well so far.
italian I still don't know! I'm having my immunes retest today. I should get results back in a week. AF is also due in a week. Because I'll be on short protocol I'll find out on day 1 if I can cycle and start injecting day 2. It's nail biting stuff! I'd really appreciate a few positive thoughts to drift my way
Hi to everyone else

Hi all,

Keziah that tankini sounds like a good solution. I've never been to aqua aerobics, but it seems like a good idea for when you are pg - taking the strain off a bit. Thank you for the info on CZ that is nice to know. I don't suppose you will be over in November?

Pinkapples fingers crossed for you this month especially for the progesterone to rise.

Italian thank you sweetie. I feel like crying when I think what we have all been through, but shake it off, shake it off wah! I hope this is a success for you as well. How is it all going? Have you got a nice bruised tum/bum?

Level is it egg collection you have to go in for? How exciting!

Lucy oooo blood tests!!! Big big positive vibes for you my dear!!! Stay strong, it will all work out!

Hi Lissy, beginnings, Scrummy, Fret and everyone.

Well, bit of news, AF has arrived, last night so not sure whether to say today as first 'full' day or yesterday? Would you count a night time AF start as that day or the next?
Anyway, it's either 26 or 27 days which means I can now calculate my day 20 for my depot shot - if I have one! Groo! It switches of the ovaries and puts the body in a kind of menopause like state. I only had it last time because I had breakthrough bleeding before treatment and had to abandon the cycle last year.
Feeling quite smug because I took red clover which raises oestrogen levels and I thought it would trigger AF, which it may have done?

I got 9 eggs. No idea if that is good or not. The nurse said it was 'ok'. Still sleepy from the drugs.

level 9 is good :) Hopefully given the number of follies you had on Friday, a bunch of them will have been mature and you can grow some good embryos. Look after yourself tonight and tomorrow. It's all about keeping relaxed now for transfer!!

level 9 eggs is very good (most I got was 5), rest up well.

rowing - no trips planned, due to not wanting to fly now am on blood thinners etc! yippee for af - if it was me I always count the next day as one if start at night. All best for next stage for you.

level great news. Will be thinking of you over the next days.

rowing I'd say next day for AF.

Lucy you'll be fine and it will all be fine in the end. The worst that can happen is you will have a delay and I know that isn't what you want, then at least you know that when treatment starts you've done everything you can to make it successful.

Level exciting stuff, 9 eggs sounds fab.

Yes, Rowing, I could cry sometimes too. I told a friend today that I always advise people who marry after age 35 and want kids not to wait. We married at 36 and waited just over a year because of some sort of idea of having time together, and ended up trying for 18 months before DD was conceived and I am still waiting now after 6 years of trying after DD to complete my family. But I am so grateful for DD and I know I am so lucky to have her. When I told my friend I would advise people not to wait (if they wanted kids) she seemed surprised, I got a bit defensive!

My DD asked me if she will have problems with her tummy when she is older and I said probably not. But I will advise her not to wait if she wants kids! Still what is done is done and if we had tried earlier we might have had more kids but not DD! I would not swap DD for the world on stick! Or some such saying! Long ramble.

Mojangles how?s it going?

Scrummy, any news?

Hugs to all - Wellerbabe, Pinkapples, Keziah, lissy, Teds77, Pocket, Beginnings, Flip, Val, Womanly, woowa, fretfree, marmite, frustrated, and Pumpkinjoy* - baby dust hi to all.

About two to three weeks to go - Lucy where are you in all this cycling?

So only 4 of my eggs fertilised. I know I should be happy that I've got 4 in the running still but I can't help but be upset that only 40% of mine worked when the average seems to be 60-70%.

Now I'm thinking of that 4 they could all stop growing before we get to transfer.

Sorry for being a bit miserable. I know I should be happy I've got this far.

Hi all
Level I know it's upsetting if you aren't the average, but please read back over this thread and see how many people (me for example) had a good number of eggs with high fertilisation didn't get pg and how many with a lower number fertilised, like 1 or 2, did become pg - you will be very surprised.
I do really think it is the quality, you have taken the non-starters out of the picture already rather than waste time with them fertilising when they aren't going to be good enough to grow into a babies, if that makes sense. Take me, I had 10 eggs 10 fertilised 5 frosties and no bfp. I wish I had just had a couple of good eggs in the first place. I have everything crossed for you!!

Italian don't start me off! I've emailed the clinic so have to start thinking about the whole process again and this is our last as well so no pressure!!
We are lucky to have our goorgeous dcs, but it is hard. We will be mummies again! We both have the possibility for adoption as well. I'm going off with a box of tissues now for a sniff. Wah!

Scrummy and Keziah right that's it, I'm going with yesterday as day one then! Thanks guys!

Hi all, back from Greece (enjoy, Scrummy , it's deliciously warm with a lovely breeze to keep things perfect) and just had a marathon catch-up.

First things first, mahoosive congratulations to Fretfree ! Very very well done!

Level here's a hug and a big picture: you were worried about having almost no follies at all weren't you? You've done brilliantly, 9 eggs and still 4 rocking on, more than they could transfer back so this way you get to be sure the strongest, juciest and most perfect embies come home to you. What can you do to enjoy the next couple of days till ET?

Rowing , November in CZ sounds like the perfect set-up for luscious hot chocolate in old cafes to me.

Italian i remember the ghastly down-reg. Fortunately didn't have to do it this time as FET so timing was less of an issue. I'd have been tempted to suggest that DH takes the drugs and sees how challenging it is to live with the feeling that everyone's either a) a moron, b) hates you, or c) doesn't appreciate that YOU DON'T CARE about their stupid ishoos... Oof, clearly I still have down-reg scars!

Good luck PinkApples , sorry I don't know about kick-starting ovulation but I hope the clinic have the magic formula for you. I'm a big fan of acupuncture, it's definitely helped me, so I'd say worth a go.

So we had our FET on Monday after a blissy 2 weeks on an island dandling DS in the sea. It was perfect, I wasn't stressed (unlike last time), top grade embies, and I'd booked a flight back the following day so that I could do the 24 hours rest. Hmm, at which point things stopped going so well. DH's idea of looking after DS was to take him off for an hour or so and then bring him back to see me, cue lots of excited jumping and wanting to be picked up. Then the flight was delayed and altho DS is generally an angel, it was a very long trip and by the end of it my tummy had been comprehensively stamped on and I'd done lots of banned lifting. Then yesterday DS came down with a tummy bug which he's given to me, so I've chucked up several doses of progynova. All in all, not ideal and now I'm worried the little embies have been jostled and had a hormone dip and I generally haven't set things up well for them. Hey ho, only 12 more days to go....

Hugs to all

Rowing I forgot to say I was told by London Women's Clinic (unimpeachable source) to count the following day as D1 if AF arrived after 8 pm, so I'm sure you're right.

I know I know. Thanks for the reality check rowingboat and MoJangles.

If you'd told me 4 months ago that I'd have 4 embryos at this stage I'd have been over the moon.

level - seriously 4 fertilises is great and hopefully they will all be good ones. Will you go to blast (we did with 4 fertilied, scary but got one good one and one not so good) or do an earlier transfer? Was it IVF or ICSI, as if you end up going down this road again for more bfp's that might be a change you make?

Mojangles - glad Greece was good and FET went so well. Shame about what happened afterwards, but I got my bfp after a stroke - so I think ALL things are possible

Italian all the best for treatment.

I have no time but level please step away from the stats!! They collected ten eggs from me in July, five fertilised, there were two on day three and i'm nine weeks pregnant today with one of those. Honestly, once you get as far as you have the stats really really don't mean that much. If I had listened to stats in February as opposed to trusting someone to deal with my particular case, I honestly think I would have given up.

Hope everyone else is doing well.....thinking of all if those about the start. Am reading and up to date but right now am either working, sleeping or eating.....a LOT of eating....this might become an issue.

level 4 is great, please stop worrying. I think I'd be dancing a jig with four!

Mojangles thinking of you and hoping for the best. If you can remember and are willing to share can you tell me how many embies you got and how many were/are frozen? Just idle curiosity!

Mojangles - ps, I meant to say please!

Since you said please...

We had 6 embies frozen from the same donor as DS, from a cycle we arranged June last year when I was 20 weeks pregnant. 5 survived the thaw, and 3 were perfect day 3 embies on Monday when they were transfered. I feel very resonsible to them and hope I haven't blown it by not resting properly and getting this bug. I saw my lovely acupuncturist this afternoon though and feel better about everything now (warning; hokey stuff coming up: i felt like I'd lost contact with the embies, which happened on the one IVF cycle we did that made it to ET but failed, and she's tuned me back in. I'm also listening to Zita relaxation tapes like a mad woman).

How long now till your ET Italian ?

Keziah that's really inspiring! You're supermummy!

Hi all,

Mojo I'm sure they are fine, probably wondering what all the noise is. How helpful of your DH to come back so soon - hmm! Oh well, they were just missing you, can't really blame them.
Hope your tummy bug clears up soon and that zen, meridian thingy calms your nerves (have no idea what I'm talking about!)

Level I know we have beaten you into sumission with our anecdotes and experiences, but just one more? A lady on my FF thread had two eggs, both fertilised, she insisted on taking them to blast, even though the hospital were dubious, both embies made it to day 5 and were returned and she has just got a bfp. I love that story!

Just a quick update from me, the clinic have said not to bother with the depot shot (phew!) and just to start popping oestrogen when I start my next cycle, then fly over for a day 20/1 transfer. Just like that! Piff paff poff!

Rowing that's just what I had done - frozen cycles seem WAY easier than fresh! On the basis of my experience, I'd suggest booking into a nice hotel with good telly and room service ON YOUR OWN and leaving your nearest and dearest to pick you up the following day at the airport in triumph!

Level how's it going? When's ET? Great story from Rowing. (But you're allowed to feel anxious too! Hope we haven't shouted you down too much!)

Day 4 post transfer, 7 more to go till test... [drums fingers emoticon]

Moj I'm going to book into a lovely room, drag the wardrobe across and put it in front of the door, might take planks to nail across the windows, oh and put a do not disturb sign on the door.
Are you tapping a pen and drumming your fingers as well? If you start whistling as well you could get a bit of a song going. Oh the craziness of the 2WW. You just have to keep busy, whittling or something. Cut down a tree and whittle it down to a toothpick, that should keep you going for another 7 days.

Well here's the latest. The clinic got back to me and said to start the oestrogen at the start of next cycle then go over on day 20. No depot - yay!

I think I am aiming for 6-8th November. No snow I hope!