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TTC for 10+ months, part 3

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joycep · 22/08/2011 12:33

The other thread was just about to fill up and so here we are again with a slightly different name now as many of us have been trying for well over 12 cycles now. We had a few great successes on Part 2, with a couple of people getting bfp's on their 17th and 19th month of trying. So let's hope for more successes on Part 3. (Moaning, crying, sadness, anxiety & bitterness is certainly allowed on here!)

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eurochick · 02/09/2011 19:02

Welcome Florin.

Sorry AF got you pout. How awful after you got your hopes up.

izzy the "good" thing about PCOS is that lots of women do get pregnant with it. I have a friend with it who got PG first month with her first and second month with her second. Have a look over on the pregnancy boards on Verity to see many success stories.

Good evening to everyone else!

skeletonbones · 02/09/2011 19:04

sorry about AF pout, its not bloody fair is all I can really say.

I have had a good day today, been shopping to get last minute school stuff and formal stuff to wear on placement. I have a friends birthday party to go to next weekend too and I got a nice new top and some eyeshadow (I will team this with jeans or a skirt,I'm not going out bare arsed Wink ) and was actually looking forward to a boozy and dressy up social occasion untill... I came back and check bloody facebook. bloody gushing pregnancy announcement. Its an old boyfriend posting it, his partner is 8 weeks pregnant (we went out in college and just sort of drifted when I moved away, he did dump me though! and he was THAT ex to me, the one you still get all blushy and stuff when you bump into them, or I did do till I met my husband anyway, I don't still have feelings for him now but it took a looong time not to... anyway) I feel gutted really, actually felt sick when I saw it. I'd much rather have my husband than any other bloke though, baby or no baby so I am willing myself to stop thinking about it!

ThatWayMadnessLies · 02/09/2011 19:32

Hello ladies,

Well, another week of work is done and I haven't managed to keep up with mn yet again. Definitely need to get a smartphone so that I can cheekily check up on all of you during the day. We are still doing diy so evenings have been busy, although procrastinating by going out for dinner tonight.

Sorry about your ex, skeleton, I just reconnected with mine and all he posts are pictures of his 3 year old....... This evening has also been difficult because the friend we had to stay over the weekend just called dh to say that he hadn't been completely honest with us while they were here and that he and his wife just had a 12 week scan today. He had asked dh about kids while they were in the pub and dh told him where we're at, so now I'm going to feel awkward next time I see her. Thankfully they don't live around here so I might not actually see her until after the baby is born. Out of that circle of friends we are now one of only three couples who don't either have kids or are currently pregnant.

Oh and one of my colleagues has asked me to make a quilt for her to give to her daughter who just had her scan with grandchild number 1. Trying not to be overwhelmed by the green eyed monster but 7dpo and the familiar symptoms are already starting so just not the best day :(

Sorry for starting the weekend on gloom and doom. Hello to everyone and my apologies for not name-checking. I will post happy thoughts tomorrow :)

Purplelooby · 03/09/2011 17:59

Hello everyone - I'm so sorry that it's been so long - I didn't even realise this was the right thread at first! I really can't catch up with all the old posts because there are so many so my first question is: who got BFPs??

Anyway, the truth is that I needed to ignore TTCing because I was starting to get a bit messed up about it, but since I've had lots of tests it's time for an update...

OK so - I had the first appointment about a month ago and the consultant ordered the usual bloods, HyCoSy, etc. My next appointment was a few days ago and I have very little to say about it. The bloods were normal and also the HyCoSy showed that the tubes were fine. I have to say that my consultant was very nice and he gave us lots of options, including chlomid. I told him that I wanted 3 more cycles before I tried meds (I'm grouchy enough with my students without chlomid!) so I have an appointment on the 4th of Jan.

What he did find was a fibroid, and although he seemed sure that it would not affect fertility, I can't help but be less certain. He said that where it was made it not a problem but that when I'm pregnant (his words again) it might cause problems in labour, depending where it goes... Kind of mixed feelings really - on the one hand I have been lucky that my consultant has not just sent me away despite being unexplained, (I quote, "we have plenty to work with") but on the other hand I am worried that he might be wrong about the fibroid...

Oh yeah and for anyone who needs to have a HyCoSy or similar, it really didn't hurt, although I was traumatised when he couldn't get the catheter in properly and needed to grab (his words) my cervix and straighten my uterus out. It was uncomfortable and certainly not pleasant, but actually it was not as bad as 'painful'. Much fuss about nothing really. Bah - childbirth will be easy!!

Sorry for the long message - ok fill me in on what I've missed!

skeletonbones · 04/09/2011 10:43

ooh welcome back Purple I was wondering where you had gone. Sorry to hear the ttcing has been getting you down, I hear ya that sometimes a break is needed from thinking about it. Glad to hear that the hsg went ok and wasnt too horrid of an experience. I dont think you missed many BFP's we did have two in the last threat though hopehopehope and biscuitsandtea biscuitsandtea is now our lucky mascot and keeps popping back to answer our nutty sympton spotting type questions.
Hope you all are having a nice weekend, I am back to my positive self now after a good chat with dh, and also my friend. I told her yesterday about the ttc and the time it was taking and asked her how long it took to make her child and she said quite casually, 'oh it was about two years, we tried for a year and then got pregnant and miscarried,and then it took another year after that.' which gave me a bit of hope that not everyone I know is in the one bonk and upduffed camp!

whereismywine · 04/09/2011 15:02

Well term has started again so I've missed a lot of threads! But just wanted to say hi. Thanks for the chilli gate pout it made me smile but I'm sorry that af got you in the end. I could have written the king Canute comment, I feel the same. Hello purple sorry ttc has been getting you down but glad the tests went well. I'm still to book my chlamidya (sp?) test to get the all clear for the hycosy. I feel guilty for not doing it. Just putting off having things shoved up my lady bits. I'll do it tomorrow.

I am cd17. I used the clear blue sticks this month and got a smiley face on cd14 and 15. They look like very posh opk sticks to me! I could see the two lines and didn't expect them to be so similar. Nice not to wee in a cup though. And the smiley face was uplifting! Temps went up today and we have dtd muchly. So I'll probably get my period in 12 days time and spotting in 10! it's all become rather commonplace and flat. Pah. Nice to hear that there are other people in the world that just take longer tho skeleton. you all ready for pgce-ing?

By my statistical calculations we are due a bfp any day now on this thread....

skeletonbones · 04/09/2011 20:58

fingers crossed all that smiley endorsed DTD has done the trick wine! you are my cycle twin I think? I'm day 17 (or 18? now I have the monitor to do the counting and think for me I lose track maybe it will do me PGCE homework for me too!) and have not ov'd yet. Yes we are definately due a BFP, my wish is for it to happen for us soon so that not a single one of us will be able to manage xmas dinner due to pukey feelings or have any xmas wine/brandy/champagne see I am both evil and spreading the positve vibes at the same time Grin

sorry to hear that you are surrounded by the childbearing on all sidesThatway hope you are feeling a bit better now and have had a nice weekend.

skeletonbones · 05/09/2011 08:34

oh and people who do facebook, there is a stupid game going on at the moment where people are posting fake pregnancy announcements on their statuses 'I'm and craving Thought I'd mention it incase anyone sees an isolated one and gets upset unnecisarily over another pregnancy anouncement which turns out not to be real. The first one had me going as it was last week and I thought she WAS pregant cos she is the sort of idiot that would post something like 'I'm 12 weeks and craving haribo' but I cottoned on when someone else was '1 week and craving mars bars' yesterday. Morons.

ladygee · 05/09/2011 08:48

Hope you have all had a good weekend.

Just wanted to say thank you skeleton as one of those posts on facebook nearly put a downer on an otherwise lovely, baby/child free weekend with non-pregnant friends when I looked this morning. And, yes, the person I spotted was exactly the same - it would be something she would put if she actually was pregnant and it prompted a tidal wave of 'congrats' messages which she didn't respond to. Great idea.

Must drag myself away from Mumsnet now and onto work-related activity. Hope everyone is ok.

munki · 05/09/2011 08:59

mrsd sorry I didn't answer your question - I don't know if dh's problems are recent or not, given we've easily conceived before and now can't I would have assumed so, but the GP thought not. He had an undescended testicle as a child which was never operated on and 'came down' on it's own when he was 19. It is a lot smaller than the other one so I assume it's not working at all. In fact I always thought we'd have problems because of it but when I easily conceived assumed it wasn't actually causing a problem after all.

I know what you mean about work. I don't like my job but don't want to leave especially as i might need time off for ivf, if I got a new job I don't think they'd be happy about that.

poutintrout · 05/09/2011 09:01

Skeleton Sorry that your ex thing made you feel rubbish - something like that would have taken the wind out of my sails too. I think that actually I'm quite lucky in that a lot of my friends and acquaintances haven't started popping out babies en masse (I find that weird actually) so I have very few FB "moments".

Madness I'm sorry that you too have had to deal with preggo news. When will it be our turn!

I have got all the stuff to make a quilt - well have a bash anyway. I was going to make one to go in the pram for my non existent baby. I have since put all the stuff away because it depresses me too much and I certainly don't want to make one just to have it sitting round - there is enough pressure as it is.

Hello Purple & welcome back. Hope that you are feeling better and less stressed. I'm glad that your appointment and tests went well. It's good that your consultant is on the case.

wine Hoping that your well times SWI pays off. I often wonder about how much energy I waste trying to will my AF to stay away - it's such a futile exercise.

Skeleton I was thinking this morning that we are well overdue another BFP on here & lets hope that we are all unable to eat Xmas dinner - sounds like a plan.

BTW that FB thing is probably the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard - are we talking about grown women putting this nonsense on their page? Why the hell would anyone think that it is amusing or witty.

Well I've still got the AF blues and finding it harder to bounce back this month. I just cannot imagine ever being pregnant. While it is heartening to read of ladies who take ages to get updiffed I really feel that 16 months and counting without a sniff if a BFP is not encouraging & am finding it hard to be optimistic that next month might be any different! I don't think it is helping my mood that I am living in a pigsty with boxes everywhere and the general chaos of moving Smile

joycep · 05/09/2011 11:23

Hi Ladies, i hope everyone had a good weekend.

Welcome back Purple. I'm sorry it has been getting on top of you. Hope you are feeling ok.

Pout - moving is horrible. It is never pleasant especially on top of everything. I hope the next few weeks go quickly for you. Sorry you have the AF blues as well. It is very hard to stay optimistic isn't it. I have found it very hard to bounce back this month as well, in fact i haven't. I must be about CD16 or sth and I have been emotional and had a short fuse all month...it seems constant pmt has set in. And I have got thrush again Angry and it is particularly uncomfortable. It just came yesterday. DH has got it too. I just don't understand why I can't shrug it off for more than a few months.

Good luck to all the teachers going back. I saw all the mums and dads taking their kids off this morning.

Mrsd - I hope you have a good holiday and it takes your mind off things. Totally understand the not interested in work thing. And it is all unfair.

Skeleton - i like to hear stories about people who got there in the end so thank you for that.

Well Dh asked me whether i was getting depressed at the weekend because i said i didn't want to spend NYE with friends (i fear these friends will be pregnant by then). I ddin't know what to say becaue I know i'm not depressed in the clinical sense but He doesn't quite comprehend these totally miserable bouts I get and these feelings of hopelessness and sadness. Does anyone else find it worrying that you'll never snap out of them until you're pregnant? I fear this could be the rest of my life but perhaps if kids never happened for us, we would just move on but i don't see how.

Sorry a bit too deep for a monday morning!

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eurochick · 05/09/2011 11:34

Morning all.

joycep does the thrush always come on at the same time of the month? Could it be that swi is the problem? TMI ALERT. I sometimes find that it is difficult to get excited about the idea of doing it to order and that a little (conception-friendly) lube is required otherwise it feels quite irritated down there afterwards. It's just a thought. END OF TMI!

I have tried to make my feelings about pregnant friends positive. I am hoping that if I am around them often enough I will "catch pregnancy". I know it's BS but it's something I tell myself to make it easier. I am going to a BBQ next weeknd where there will be at least 2 preggards and a number of small children. It's a way I find helpful to deal with those kinds of situations.

mrsd I am normally v ambitious and career-focussed but at the moment I am just not interested in work. I am hoping for a big project that I can get wrapped in (normally a bad thing because then I end up working silly hours but it might be what I need to refocus myself).

Purplelooby · 05/09/2011 20:32

Thanks joycep - the kids are back in properly as of tomorrow so it's back to the grind. I'm quite excited to meet my new AS students actually and I have a lovely A2 group next year, so it should be a nice way to take my mind off all this silliness!

The consultant said that I'm not allowed to buy any kits anymore, just have lots of sex between days 9 and 20. TMI but I was starting to get all horny and enjoy it all... until going back to school... hmmm, think there might be a link there. Nothing like working with spotty teenagers to ruin your sex drive.

pou I'm very sad to hear about your AF blues. You've cheered us all up so many time - I wish we could do the same for you now. Remember how we did some cheerleading for mrsden's eggs that time? Maybe we could do that for your seratonin levels. Takes a while to spell out while shaking the pom poms though.
S - E - R - A - T - O - N - I - N woo!

whereismywine · 05/09/2011 20:56

Big hug pout I'm joining in with purple. ttc is tough and moving house is tough too so go easy on yourself, you are having a hard time! Post af hormones should kick in soon and lift you a bit. Love to joycep too. I wish I could do something to make us all pregnant. That actually sounds pretty weird! But you know what I mean.

My rabbit is poorly Sad he is growing old and has had a few ops in the past few months, but the vet said today he's on borrowed time. He's a house rabbit, so much like having a cat really. Hes seen me through bad times and whilst he can be a grumpy old man to other people, he's loyal and lovely to me and dh. I think, in current ttc context losing him would be just that little bit worse. Sorry to outlet on here, but people at work think it's hilarious that I'm bothered. Poor bunny.

NervousNelly · 06/09/2011 11:58

Hello ladies, I feel like I have been away a long time and need to sneak back in! But actually I was away for the weekend only. I thought I had posted before I went; but now I remember I was using the App on my phone, and then it rang, which annoyingly deletes everything you have drafted, so I gave up. I?m trying to catch up on the phone so the comments below are probably all over the place! Apologies in advance for anyone I've missed.

Welcome back purple. LOL at the extra-long cheerleading. I?ll join in Grin. I know what you mean about the TTC madness. I think if I didn?t have my hobby (yes pout sorry for being mysterious, I think it would out me too much!) then I would be in a pit of despair too. As it is, I swing between wanting a BFP sooo much, and then slightly wishing I didn?t get one quite yet as I have plans!

Did I say hello to Florin last time, I can?t remember. But hello anyway

Interesting about the vitamins changing cycle length. Would it be safe to make the assumption that it would only happen if you had a shortage of a certain vitamin in the first place? I?ve been taking Sanatogen ones recently (multi-vit plus folic acid), but for the 3 months before it was just folic acid, I can?t say I?ve noticed much difference in my cycles.

I?m glad you got your referral Izzy - any idea when you will get the appointment? Although you are probably on your holidays. :)

Re looking for a new job, I was the same when we started TTC. I got offered an interview for another company and turned it down due to the maternity pay issues. Ironically of course I?d have been there at least a year by now so I would have qualified anyway, but there you go, hindsight is a wonderful thing. Euro I too am very meh about my current job, but to be honest I know changing it won?t change much. We?ve had a tough year one way or another, and I don?t reckon I?m going to feel fully positive about life again until I get that BFP. That?s not to say I?m sitting around moping, but there is a bit of a shadow hanging over me all the time, like Joycep said. I do fun stuff, I laugh at funny things, but I know it is only on the surface.

Sorry about your ex Skelly that?s rubbish :( Sorry too about your friend?s announcement Madness although that?s good you have had a talk with her now. Of course we don?t wish what we are going through on anyone, but on the other hand it?s nice to know that someone in RL had problems, but has succeeded :) I do sometimes wish I had someone to share this with in RL, but I don?t know who I?d choose to discuss it with, and I don?t really want anyone to know. Fingers crossed your symptoms are not AF symptoms at all.

Hope you are starting to feel better pout. I know it?s hard to imagine being pregnant. I?m beginning to wonder though if we need to give ourselves a swift kick up the behind and start being more positive (if only it were that easy!). My ?evidence? for this is that I noticed our most recent graduate Biscuits was also on the ?brook no argument? thread. Maybe it?s time we gave our ovaries a Stern Talking To. In the meantime, remember we WILL get that little bundle of pukey crying pink cuteness. It?s just some of us earn them rather more Hmm.

wine I am very sorry about your rabbit. I?ve lost a couple of animals this year, and just last night my mum let me know she?d just had to have one of her cats put down. My animals are without doubt my family, I have howled over their loss, and I completely understand :(

In other news, fairly sure I was ovulating last night. Having been away we?d not SWI since Thursday night, but yesterday I had very distinct sharp OV pains, so OH was lured to the bedroom despite his protestations of being too tired. Fingers crossed the swimmers are making their way up to the healthy newly launched egg, they?ll get on brilliantly, choose to be BFF, and I?ll be being sick on Christmas day too Grin.

Karbea · 06/09/2011 13:25

Hello ladies,

One of our cats is very old, dh was practically in tears the other day as I think she'll die soon :(

I think it's so unfair that people who really don't want babies, or are too young, or have drug alcohol issues etc manage to get pregnant whereas well educated, healthy people can't. It doesn't make sense does it. It's 3 months till I'm 38, I don't want to be an old mum.

I'm on day 13, I've not temp'd or anything this month, so not sure if I've ov'd or not, dh and I have just being swi twice a day since Thursday just in case.

Waiting for his results...

I used to be career focused, now I just want to leave a be a mum.

Do you all intend to continue working when you are mums?

eurochick · 06/09/2011 13:54

Twice a day? Shock Good on you, karbea.

I do intend to carry on working if we manage to have kids. My mum was very unhappy and bored being a stay at home mum (she was off having kids from her job as a legal secretary just as they brought word processors and computers into offices and she lost all her confidence and never went back). I can see that it must be difficult to hand your child over to someone else for most of his/he waking hours but on balance I think it will be better that they get a few hours a day of my full attention when I am fulfilled. I am v similar to my mum and think I would also be unhappy and bored at home all the time.

My job is not very child-friendly though. The hours are long and a fair amount of travel is involved. But I am the main wage earner and we would struggle without my salary. My ideal is that when any child is very young both me and my husband go to 4 days a week for a while, with different days at home so the child is in nursery for 3 days, with me for one day and him for one day. Whether our employers will agree when the time comes is another matter!

Karbea · 06/09/2011 14:10

Yes twice a day.
Thought we may as well give it a good go this month haha! And we will have dhs results soon, so I guess this is the last month of innocence... We are going to go back to the docs and asked to be referred once we've moved, so giving nature the best chance possible.

I'm definitely going to be a full-time housewife I love cleaning, cooking etc!

popcorn78 · 06/09/2011 14:18

Hi ladies

Been off for a bit on holiday and just been catching up. I'm sorry there have not been any bfp's while I was away, I was keeping everything crossed. I've read all the posts but so much happened that I've forgotten everything so I'll have to start again I think!

Had a good time on holiday and actually it was the first time in a while that I've felt a bit of distance from ttc. It helped that it was quite a busy holiday and we were there with other child free people who weren't ttc. Also did lots of child unfriendly activities. I think busy holidays might be the way forward when I think about the one before which was all about lying on a sunbed obsessing about infertility relaxing.

wine I am very sorry about your bunny and very Angry about horrible people at work not understanding. It is devasting to lose a pet and they are absolutely part of your home and family. I hope he feels better.

pout sorry you've been having a hard time, I hope it passes soon and in the meantime take it easy.

Since I got back from hold I've felt the familiar ttc depression creeping in again, fuelled by scan pics, preg announcements and questions from nosey rellies about why I'm not pregnant :( anyway got the fertility acupuncturist tonight so we'll see how that goes. I'm on cd 25 so no doubt af will visit in a week or so. I ov'd on holiday and kept to a strict get pissed and shag plan, a few months ago I'd probably be quite hopeful but after 12 months I'm not at all.

Can't really be arsed to be healthy either, and seem to be consuming a lot of biscuits and wine at the moment-totally given up not drinking in the 2ww!

Re working my plan was to take a year off and then go back part time 3 days per week but it all seems highly improbable at the moment.
Really sorry for everyone I've missed this time, will be good at keeping up from now on! Love to all x

NervousNelly · 06/09/2011 14:20

Twice a day? I too am Shock and also a bit in awe Karbea. Sorry to hear about your cat though, it's the worst part of animal owning. The way I console myself a little is to remember that if I'm that sad about them going, then I know I must really love them - in turn that means that they will have had a pretty amazing life being spoiled by me, which is the best thing we can do for them really :)

You won't be an Old Mum - you'll just be a Great Mum. I don't feel my age at all, and there are definite benefits to being a bit older - financially more stable, strong relationships, life experience, you've already got past the stage of wanting to go out and get wrecked every weekend, your friends all have kids and understand why you have to call off dinner at short notice - etc etc. It's all good :)

I will have to go back to work out of necessity - OH and I earn about the same at the moment, but we both earn a decent amount and in the way it always is, we spend it all. Our mortgage is very big, so whilst I know we can afford child care, I also know we can't afford for me not to work. That said, less hours is a possibility though neither my work nor my OH are likely to agree

I also don't think I'd make a great SAHM. A friend who does a similar job to me is bored out of her mind at home now (her DS is 9 months), and I can imagine I'd be similar.

Karbea · 06/09/2011 15:59

I know... Pets are lovely but so sad when they get old :(

The house we are buying is based on me giving up work, which is making it harder for me to stay motivated, not sure why I can't just give up work now haha!!!

Popcorn I don't keep to any special diet anymore, I drink, eat sweets etc. I think I'd think the stick was broken if I pee'd on it and it gave a bfp!!!

joycep · 06/09/2011 16:27

Thanks very much euro for the tip of using more lube. i'm clearly allergic to swi. Well it probably doesn't help that i find I am not in the mood around ovulation time.
\thanks wine - i like these virtual hugs! Really sorry about your bunny. I am a big animal person and plan to have many when i am older (makes me sound super young) so i totally empathisese with the horribleness of animals getting old and sick.
Impressed with your swi routine Karbea. Very envious !
Hiya Popcorn - glad you had a good child unfriendly holiday. Sorry that dreaded ttc cloud is looming. It doesn't help that the weather is crap. Well it is in London anyway. I just don't believe having a blow out on food every now again will matter...

I'm undecided about the SAHM thing. I think I would get dreadfully bored plus we live in a poky flat. In fact i don't think we could afford it if i didn't work as my dh is freelance. But then again, nanny's are incredibly expensive so not sure whether the finances would add up. Ooh getting far too ahead of myself ...i have already checked up on the primary schools in my area but that was before ttc. I seemed to have jinxed things!

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Karbea · 06/09/2011 17:57

The weather is horrible, mind you it's easier to have sex when it's cold, rather than hot and sweaty.
I've never used lube, I was reading about preseed before, do any of you use that???

Purplelooby · 06/09/2011 18:23

wine smack those nasty people laughing about your rabbit - that's horrible! A bloke at my work was off for one day because his Mum's cat died :) Like karbea I also have a very old moggie and last time we went to the vet, they said that his kidneys are failing. DH and I got very sad, but the thing is we got him as an old cat, so we always knew that we wouldn't have a long time with him. Our other cat we had from being a kitten and I can't even begin to imagine anything happening to her :(

I will definitely go back to work - I've genuinly love my job and I go insane during the summer holidays. SAD I know. I have thought about going back PT but then I earn more than DH, so it makes more sense if he went PT. Mind, if we could afford it we would both go 4 days, so we would only need 3 days cc.