so here it is, a new home for us newly updiffed ladies or still seeking that golden egg after a mc part 3

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ladies here it is our new home, ive tried my best, im not very good at the witty banter so hopefully this will do, get yourself comfortable it could be a bumpy ride with me at the helm!!!

Ah, Worm, 'Filthy Fridays' aren't what they were, eh?!
Wellie, no way are you leaving us! We're all behind you, lovely!
Where is Harassed? Playing with her new wooden train set I dare say
Yellow, don't recommend telling the PM to eff off, although you could have a go at the Greek one and no-one would mind. You can have a good cry and people put it down to hormones, a raging rant is probably a different kettle of fish though. Perhaps you're getting too much sleep!
Right, got to prepare for my review next week, not looking forward to it as remembering selling my achievements is not a strength. 8 more working days after today, huzzah!

Buttery crumpets anyone? Best be quick, I'm getting through the packet...

Sorry I've been AWOL, I'm finding the time between the 12 week and 20 week scan is dragging. Still over a week to go until the 20 week one. When did you ladies first feel a flutter? I'm 18+3 and nothing yet. I do have a wonky backward tilting uterus though so I'm guessing and hoping that s/he is indeed wriggling away. Not much other news from me although I have progressed from wearing my yoga bottoms to actually attending pregnancy yoga. I'm really enjoying it although I do have bump envy. There's some brave ladies there, still going at 40 weeks (honestly!), I'm sure by then I'd want to stay as close to home as possible, with my feet up! Besides that, I'm mostly looking forward to my 20 week scan, we're not finding out what we'rw having so I hope nothing is obvious on the screen...

Sparkly I'm loving the milk/cat updates, cats rock, how clever of him!!

Yellow I'm glad all is well with you. I too am managing wee free sleeps but I guess I'm a lot earlier on than most of you. How is your dream genii working out? I'm getting a really achey lower back and also favour sleeping on my back so I'm wondering whether it'd be a good investment or not. For all the good reviews I read, there are usually an equal amount of so so ones. I wouldn't worry at all about not feeling the urge/being apprehensive about buying baby stuff yet. My sister is due in 7 weeks and hasn't bought much. I mostly hear people saying that they ended up buying unnecessary things, and in these days next day delivery internet shopping, even if you had nothing it wouldn't be a disaster. I think I'll be the same as you. I did, however really enjoy a trip the baby dept of John Lewis the other day to buy stuff for my sister. It was really lovely and felt 'safer' being able to look at all the baby stuff but shopping for someone else IYSWIM?!

Worm I'm so happy about your clients being lovely. Ooh, how was the Perry?

Wellie I'm nowhere near the end so I'll be here for a long time yet! I hope all is well with you

Wombat wow, not long for you now....exciting!

Happy weekends, all

Morning all

Just a quickie before I depart to the land of croissants!

Kool good to hear from you. I found that period difficult too, but you're nearly there. I don't think I felt any movement until about 20ish weeks but I can't remember exactly, I think it was like 22 or something........well done for going to the yoga, I go too and really like it. I'm doing yoga for active birth so it's all about birth positions and we also talk during the first half hour about different aspects of birth. thank you for the crumpets......nom nom......

sparkly thanks for the nipple updates, sounds like things are getting ready for action. Good luck with your review, only 8 days left...wow. I was working out last night that I have 12 weeks to due date, so 10 weeks working but what with Xmas and my hols coming up that is less than 8 weeks in the office.....how did that happen so fast?

Big hug and a nipple tweak to everyone else and those who are nearly ready don't even think of going into labour until I'm back.

Also to be clear I want to be updated on the whole process from first twinges, dilation updates and all the details. you can update from your phones in between pushes

Hi everyone and a pols for lack of posting lately. It's an extra long religious hol here and dh has 5 days off - Eid Mubarak to you all!

Have a fab time with the in laws yellow - hope they treat you like a princess and do snaffle some decent pastries for us while you're there please! Great that all is well following mw appt. Your daughter seems to be doing very well

Really fab to hear from you kool- totally with you on that 12-20 week period. I hated it. For me, movements came at 19-20 weeks and even then they were tiny and easily confused with excess gas! We are all here for lots of hand holding.

Same goes for you wellie and don't think for a second that we're not with you every step of the way - there's not a chance we'll lose touch. Hope all is well with you and dh down under and you're enjoying some swi.

Saw a couple of pics on your fb worm of KP. How was it? How lovely about your clients.

Quick word of advice for your review sparkly - frame your achievements as a list of facts - it's not about selling yourself, it's about evidence. That should help take some of the emotion out of it. Reviews are positive for both the org and individual so make the most of it and good luck!

So yes not long at all for me which is exciting but nerve wracking too. Have been having some deep and meaningfuls with dh about bringing up children and while we do have differences we do seem to be on the Sam page. I realize that perhaps it's a little late in the day to be having these conversations but I'm hoping better late than never!! Actually typing this in bed as not feeling 100% today. Prob my own fault after too much sun and painting yesterday. Forced myself to aqua this morning and now feeling a bit lethargic and queasy.... Silly wombat. I have the place entirely to myself though which is v rare and lovely. Mum and dad arrive tues for 2.5 weeks so need to gear myself up for that too! I think it will be fine, just hoping they won't be offering up too much unsolicited advice!

Don't worry yellow, you guys will be the first to know of any contractions etc!

Morning Ladies
Hope you are all well...... how about a change today, and omelete with whatever fillings take your fancy, I am a mature chedder, ham and onion kinda gal myself.
wombat I have never had deep and meaningfuls regarding parenting and mine are 12 and 10! so no definately not late in the day! Thankfully DH and I seem to have the same ideas and both just learnt "on the job"
Good luck with Mum and Dad I bet it will be lovely to see them again, If the baby comes while they are still here I can see you having a hectic time!!
I agree about keeping us informed, and in fact think we should be told before the hospital!
Bonjour yellow hope you are having a lovely relaxing time with DH in France, 40 working days for you!!
Great to hear from you kool you are nearly there at the magic 20 week mark! I thought I had felt movement at around 18 weeks, however when I was having the scan I could still feel it and the baby was completely still! so it must have been wind definate movements felt from 21 weeks ish. Hope you and DH are keeping well.
sparkly loving the 8 more working days! that is what I have too I have started a "things to do while before baby comes list, and if I do them all will be busier than when I am working!!

So this weekend I have been feeling very snappy and irrational. Yesterday I got jealous of DH buying the kids some christmas presents as that is a job I usually do (and have started) and DH is just as surprised as the kids to see what they have on Christmas day! This year he has actually thought about what to buy and bought some, and my nose was thoroughly put out of joint!! Silly hey....... Last weekend I felt the same when he cleaned the windows for the first time ever!!
Katy Perry was great, DD absolutely loved it. Bump didnt seem to mind at all.

So I woke up to turn over in the night ( for the millionth time) and felt this very weird gushing/pumping sensation inside. Looked it up on google and it sounds like I could feel the umbilical flow?? So now I am super paranoid that the baby was laying on its cord......... anyone else evr had this??
I am not supposed to see the midwife again for another 4 weeks! they leave you to get on with it when its not your first.......
Being the neurotic geriatric that I am I am making an appointment for the clinic this week to ask about it. Baby moving around fine which is re-assuring.

Have a good week ladies
x

Thanks for the reassurance worm - I'm a bit of a plan-ahead sort of girl, but it;s good to know that at the end of the day, you just get on with it and I guess what doesn;t work, doesn't work and what does, does! I find this lack of control thing a bit anxiety-provoking!

Your poor DH - I guess it's a question of whatever he did, it might not be right! Not had the umbilical flow thing - sounds interesting though, if not a little worrying although good to know baby us moving around fine.

So, DH and I actually tried the perineal massage this afternoon and we both found it quite enjoyable - not sure we did it right in that case!

Bonsoir mes amies

oooh wombat, very impressed at perinal massage, glad you enjoyed it! did you use oil, did you feel a weird stretching or where you just having too much fun???

worm no idea re the gushing, good idea to get an appt though if you are worried.

I have been out with the inlaws this afternoon and bought cute baby clothes, some lovely dungarees! and I have been eating lots of croissant

kool i think i forgot to reply to your genii question? essentially it has helped me to sleep on my side but it is a product of low quality and I guess there may be something better available. It is a really good idea and the back and front supports help but perhaps are a little too thin and the cover is v poor quality. I do need it and have bought it to france with me but i would look around for something better quality but i am thinking of getting the quilted cover to see if that helps.

please enjoy this selection of pastries and sweet and savoury crepes

Arevoir et a bientot

Bonjour ma cherie! Glad that you are having a good time in la Belle France and making the most of the pastries - merci buckets for sending some our way! Oooh - while you're there - if you see any shops stocking Moulin Roty products, have a look. My neighbour is the distributor for the Dubai region and has got me 30% off their stuff and it is toooo cute for words.

Haven't done the perineal massage since - I really need to seeing as I'm only 13 days-ish away from this whole birth thing.... it's odd - I really feel as this is happening to someone else, not me. Does anyone else feel that way.....?

So the parents arrived on Tues night and it;s testing my patience a little, but at the same time I feel bad as it is very kind of them to come over for such a long time. The guilt!

My word [wombat] you sure are hurtling towards the finish line! Hope you Re having fun with the olds.

I hope [sparkly] is ok think she finishes work very soon so let's hope boredom forces her out of hiding. Failing that here are some muffins of various flavours.

Greetings across the channel to [yellow] hope you are getting well rested.

Dsinl had her baby this morning. It went really well and was a water birth on gas and air only at the local midwife led unit. I am very impressed and jealous! The baby was born with a deformed hand same as his mum bless them , which they had been told was fine at the anomoly scan. So that's a shame for them that they weren't prepared for.

Waves frantically to everyone else hope all is well.

Bolding fail!

Took me a while there to work out that 'Bolding fail!' was not an Irish greeting!
Aw, congrats Wormydsinl and her new son, lovely. Are deformities genetic? I don't know the nature and extent of it, but she will know how to guide him through life with it I'm sure.
All fine here, muffins have flushed me out. Been lurking on and off at work but had no news, sorry though, I know how we worry! Last week at work next week, it's going to be really odd and probably quite emotional. Really ready for the rest though.
Anyone else got those bizarre little flaps of skin that appear in sweaty hot areas of the body? My skin has gone beserk, really dry and itchy - thought I had ingrowing hairs but luckily it's just warty things that will drop off eventually, so I couldn't feel sexier!
Love the Moulin-stuff Wombat, the duck is super cute, tres chic and a bit weird, right up my street. Going to hold off on any more purchases though. I did buy some raspberry leaf tea for use from 37 weeks, not to accelerate things as I'm not convinced anything could, but to soften the old bits in readiness. Also got some almond oil massage base from Holland and Barratt to try the perineal massage, that's alright to use isn't it Harassed?
Righto, going to search for some gruesome tales to scare me on here, then bath and a cheesey lasagne should anyone wish to join me (for the lasagne, bath barely big enough for me) x
Ooh, slightly leaky boobs again - perhaps I should be harvesting some colostrum, heh heh!

Yes it is genetic, sparkly, but Dsinl is dh's half sister sharing mums. The gene is on her dads side. I am getting madder the more I think about it as to why this wasn't picked up prior to the birth though. She had 3 scans!! Makes me really fret that if they can miss something as obvious as that what else do they miss ? Although I know it wouldn't change the outcome she could have been prepared for it rather than find it themselves when he was on her tummy.
Have a wonderful last week at work! (its mine too) !
I have been reading up on preparing your nipples for feeding. One tip was to scrub your nipples with a scrubbing brush to toughen them up! Youch [shocked]

Lovely muffins worm - thank you. Makes up for the huuuuge bolding fail! Congrats to sil and sorry to hear about the hand, particularly when they were reassured all was well. Assume all is well with you too?

Gawd yes to the skin tags sparkly - I seem to have developed most around my neck and because I've been spending more time outside in the sun lately as I'm not working, they have gone quite brown - so it looks like I'm just dirty . I really do hope they drop off but if they do I have visions of waking up one morning in a sea of them! Other odd skin things - my nips and aereola have hardly changed colour, but I have a birth mark on my right boob that has almost double in size! . HAve ob/gyn appt on tues which i will be pleased to go to as putting myself on the scales yesterday, I haven't put on any weight in the last 2 weeks and prior to that, only 700g in the previous 4 weeks. Bump is getting bigger though....

I got some of the Moulin stuff and it really is gorgeous - the circus stuff mostly.

Good luck with the p massage - I haven't actually tried it by myself yet but will prob do so tonight - I figure some has to be better than nothing at this late stage right?

Now where is our yellow? I thought she was due back from croissantland this weekend... hope all is well ma jaune amie!

x post worm - it does make you wonder about the scans, doesn't it?

Will NOT be scrubbing my nips thanks very much!

Oooh and yay for mat leave for you both - you'll love it!

Allo mes amies, I'm back!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow I can't believe you guys are going on mat leave so soon.....not that it is soon for you and all well deserved etc but I've still got 9 weeks to go.......Xmas will be in the middle of that though so that should help.

I have skin tags all over my neck too and some of my boobs, I hate them. I find (tmi coming up) if I squeeze them hard they eventually go black and fall off. Not very attractive at all..........

wombat you are so close to the finish line, v exciting. I read that not much weight gets put on at the end but it'll be good to get reassurance. Personally I am staying well away from the scales and closer to the mini chocolate rolls....
I also keep meaning to ask you, at what point did you stop the aspirin? I feel nervous about stopping it as if that was the magic bullet but I guess it has anti clotting properties it wouldn't be good to be still taking by the birth? I know what you mean about parents, mine mean so well but really annoy me after a few hours never mind if they stayed with me. My DP may have to go to Australia on business a few weeks after the birth and my mum has said she'll come and stay but I'm not too sure about that........

worm try not to worry re scans....it does seem amazing that they can miss something like that, esp if they were looking for it but........erm dunno maybe other stuff like organs and that are easier to see?

So you guys had better not all abandon me on here just cos you're not working any more.....and where has harassed got to?

I went shopping with my mil in france and she bought me some cute baby stuff and we've just been online and ordered the buggy and cot and other random stuff. So all that is underway. One funny part was that she was telling me that babies need to drink water but I'd read that they don't need additional water cos the milk is enough. I didn't say anything though but mentioned it to my DP who looked it up online. So then he told her that the advice had changed and then she got out her baby books from 1969 to prove that babies do need water........!!! But what was most funny was all the other outdated advice such as it is fine to smoke as long as it is not more than 5 cigarettes a day! I don't think I'll be taking too much advice from that book!

right I need to go and attend to my roast chicken and roast potatoes!

Welcome back yellow - glad to read you are back safe and sound and straight into yummy food! HAd to really laugh about mil and her book of advice - if you want to get really technical with her, the foremilk that comes through when you first put bub on boob is more watery and quenches the baby's thirst and after 5 mins or so, the hindmilk comes through which is rich in fats etc which is why it's important to empty one breast before offering the next. I think that formula (while not quite so clever) still has the right combo so that baby is definitely getting enough of the right type of fluids. Please tell me to bog off if I am teaching grandma to suck eggs! YOur mat leave will be here sooner than you know. WEll done for ordering buggy and stuff. WE still haven't watched the dvd of ours to know how to put it together or fitted the car seat but as I keep saying, I don't feel in the slightest bit ready to drop. Off to see ob/gyn in a few mins so will be interested to know what she thinks. Re: the asprin - I stopped at 34 weeks (on advice of ob/gyn).

Will also be speaking to the m/w about how up and down I've been feeling recently - I think it's probably just hormones, but DH is worried it's more serious depression and I'm not really sure. I think he's never seen me like this before as I'm generally pretty happy go lucky and he's not sure what to make of me....I'm not entirely sure what to make of me either. Had a big wobble again yesterday after trying on a nursing bra - wanted to scream and run away and put my head in the sand and kept thinking that everyone else seems to want this baby more than I do..... I'm sure I'll get over it but I do seem rather gloomy about it all.

Enough of that. I think what is needed is copious amounts of home made carrot cake.

Love to you all x

Sorry you are feeling blue wombat I have no advice though I'm afraid............ I remind you of what said hormones did to me at the exact same stage as you. Watch out for the suckers again 3 days after the birth, they were mental for me. I would start crying for absolutely no reason, then get worse because I knew I had no reason to cry. Chocolate is the answer!!!!! It's really good that your DH is looking out for you, he sounds great.
Thanks for the breastfeeding info, that was something I didn't know.

Welcome back yellow it is amazing how advice has changed, even as little as 10 years ago when I had DS, there was no mention of skin to skin or encouragement at all for BF, also there was regimented advice about the amount to feed, and how long between feeds that has all gone out the window now.

Re the skin tags, these are a menace I have always suffered with. I had all mine zapped off at the local beauty parlour about 8 years ago, some of them have grown back since PG and will be getting zapped again after the birth. I remember when I was about 13 I had one tied at the docs, after about a week, it fell off when I was at a disco and I remember chasing my best friend around the hall with it

I had some lovely cuddles with the new nephew yesterday, has made me so excited to hold ours. Poor DsinL really doent have a clue.......... I had to really bite my tongue re his feeding, aparently he has gone through both nights without feeding I said well as long as he is filling up in the day, and the reply was No not really he has only had a few feeds, doesnt seem hungry!!! I tactfully suggested she may need to be waking him up or he will drop too much weight, at least I hope it was tactful. She was feeding him when we got there, then he came off and got passed to me for cuddles, (without being winded) and tried to latch on to me!! I said I don't think he is full!! Bless I didn't have a clue either and mine have turned out ok.

Right off for my third to last day at work have some bacon cobs...............

Ah wombat sorry to hear you are so up and down and not yourself. I guess you are on the brink of a massive life change and it's bound to make you feel a bit apprehensive and add into that all the hormones it is a potent cocktail.

I was getting freaked out about how 'mean' people with kids were being, almost gloating about how tired I'll be etc but I am in a much more positive frame of mind now. I have noticed that I get more negative towards the end of the week so put this down to tiredness, have you been getting enough sleep? I am still on about 9 hours uninterrupted a night and long may it last.

Hope things are going ok with your p's, that can also be an added stress. Don't really have any other advice so here is a big hug and some lemon Danish pastries with icing and some freshly squeezed orange juice.

sorry crossed posts with you! Ah cuddles sound lovely. I don't have much of a clue really either, wouldn't really have thought to wake a baby to feed, would think she'd let me know if hungry I still have the antenatal classes at the hospital and breast feeding workshop to attend so I guess I have time to learn!

Yum, I'll have a bacon buttie pleases!

and those danishes all round I think, we're all starting to wobble a bit as the time gets closer.

Hugs to Wombat, it doesn't seem real does it? People keep asking if I'm excited but that seems utterly the wrong word to me. I'm excited about Christmas and mince pies (too early Yellow, and never with custard! ) and sparkly lights and getting to wear my new White Company bootie slippers that I've been saving.

With Monts I am a bit scared for him that he is still healthy and will come out alive and well, and I can't comprehend such a massive, all consuming presence in our house and in our lives. I'm even nervous how relaxed and blase I am sometimes, because it's all about feeding, sleeping and cuddling surely?! That's my ideal day.
Do you think you're nervous about the actual birth and it's manifesting itself in smaller pockets of explosive stress? I hope the midwife helps you talk things through.
Midwife made me giggle when we had the breastfeeding session, talking about waking baby up to feed. She says most people just prod gently, whispering 'coochy coo, wakey wakey babeeee' whereas she pops them down on some cold flagstones and strips them of all clothing. "That does it!" she announced gleefully.

Morning all, is it weird to not be fancying breakfast? What can you tempt me with today?

Sparkly I'm with you on the feeding, sleeping and cuddling .

Yellow I too wonder why people take great delight in gleefully telling you how you'll never sleep again etc etc Not sure what they hope to gain from sharing those "insights". There was a lovely thread on here a few weeks ago about how lovely it all is. It wasn't full of people trying to rose tint it either, it was just full of all the the really special, snuggly stuff. Will try to find it... Thanks for the dream genii info update btw - I'm surprised it's not a great quality thing as it always seems to be marketed as the king of maternity pillows, hmmm, will keeping thinking about it. My very wise (mother of 2) best friend said that sleeping on your back isn't as dangerous as it sometimes appears and said that if it was doing you/baby any harm, your body would realise and you'd wake up feeling a bit dizzy, which would make you turn over anyway. So I'm going with that for the time being

Worm congrats on your new nephew! Wow, I also had no idea that babies didn't wake up if they're hungry....Did you see your ms re your gushing umbilical thingimajig?

Wombat did you see your midwife yet? I think it's really healthy to acknowledge your up and down ness. Better than ignoring it and then feeling the full force of it later on. I've suffered from bouts of depression in the past and always suffered worse if I pretended it wasn't happening. It's good to look out for it now too so that you can be on guard with pn depression. Hugs to you x

I had my 20 week scan yesterday, all looks fine, phew! Utterly paranoid though? As at the moment we're buying a house (bear with me, I'm about to try to make sense) and the surveyors report was full of statements like "x and y look fine but we can only go on what we've seen". I found the scan to be a bit the same! "I've not seen anything I'm worried about" but what if there's something they didn't see? It all seemed thorough and I know they're far more expert in seeing all they need to see, but it all looked so blurry to me! I was expecting it to look loads clearer than the 12 week one but I guess it all depends on the position of the baby? I still don't think I've felt anything and the consultant said it can be as late as 24 weeks in some people. So I'm going to try to be more patient. It was wriggling away in there, so I'm happy. It's apparently a "good size" which I'm thinking is a euphemism for a big un...I'm quite small so it should be interesting to see how things progress !

Morning girls, great to hear from you kool , great news on the scan, I take it you are team yellow like me ?
Yes I did mention the blood pumping thingy to mw, she just looked at me like I was mad and mubbled something about having lots more blood circulating at the moment.

Last day at work today I have been awake since 3 can't get back to sleep , I don't feel in the slightest bit tired, very weird! I had all my ideas whirring around my head about my ingenious house and pet minding service and had to get up and write them all down.
I know what you mean about people going on like you will never sleep again yellow .......its most annoying, sleep is over-rated anyway another thing that really peed me off when I had first had dd, was how many people immediately asked will you do it again? To which I always answered in a sarky tone " let's see if I can look after 1 first" basically what they really want to hear is all the birth details, the more horrific the better!

I have the same fears about baby sparkly I so wish I could be hooked up to a monitor permanently, and am obsessing over movements. There still isn't any pattern to babies movements, some days it doesn't seem to stop other days I only feel it if I lay on my side and concentrate. I keep re-assuring myself by thinking statistically there is far greater chance of baby being healthy and here, than not.

I had a right mis-hap the other day when attempting to tidy my " lady garden" . I was going for the neat little triangle look and have ended up bald dh thinks its hilarious. Next time I will use a mirror!
Waves to all

hello ladies

I meant to ask you worm what was the name of the treatment at the beauty salon re skin tags? I once had them burnt off at the drs with a nitrogen thing or something but they only wanted to do v big ones or if they were catching on something rather than just being unsightly.
Your lady gardening made me laugh. I have the same problem, could just about see last time but not for much longer. I asked DP if he would help me and he wasn't keen, said it wasn't sexy! Hmmmmm. Good that you are excited about your news business, less good that it is interfering with sleep. You need to have your exciting ideas during waking hours! I think if anyone asks me about a second one I'll go mental......or more mental than usual. I'm only planning one anyway...
I also feel quite anxious about something going wrong. Baby is quite active but I'm very worried something will happen. Two miscarriages was bad enough but clearly would be soooo much worse now. In my head I want to avoid being induced but I know if they start with the scare tactics I'll probably cave straight away.....I just wanna have cuddles with my baby! Obviously not quite yet but that will be a good stage to be at.....

hello kool good to hear from you. So pleased everything was good at the scan. I was v keen for movements too and I think mine were quite late although i cannot remember exactly now. Re sleeping on your back, it is a little scare mongery really but I do tend to feel a bit nauseous if I lay on my back now so have to go for side although sometimes wake up with achy hips.

sparkly that does sound a bit extreme for the poor little baba, I guess it would wake them up though!

wombat where are you my lovely? How are you feeling? Would you like a chocolate brownie? they are delicious, all gooeey in the middle...yom yom.

I'm having such a crazy week at work I don't know if I'm coming or going....have soooooo much to do and am very behind and starting to feel a bit stressed as it always seems to be 6pm and I've not done my work for the day. Have so much to do now that I am procrastinating on here!

Am going to a breastfeeding class on Sunday, it is scheduled for 3 hours, surely it won't take that long?

Well yellow I don't actually know what the proceedure was called as it was just on the price list as "skin tag removal" it involved her getting hold of a skin tag with tweezers and them using a pen type thingy to zap it off. It could have been a laser or something? It didn't cost much, I think from memory about £3.50 each?

Take notes for me on the BF workshop, I am not going to one as I didnt give the form back in time apparently. I have been watching you-tube videos of people BF and am hoping to learn from them. The main tips I got from them were to make sure babies mouth is wide open before putting it to the nipple. Be at an angle which means the end of the nipple isn't rubbing on the inside of babies mouth and make sure the baby is square on to you and not having to turn their head.
There was one video I saw filmed in africa where you saw the baby actually crawl its way across to the breast itself when it was ready. Baby had been put directly on Mum after the birth and just left there and within half an hour (speeded up on film) had made its way over all by itself and opened up
I am really nervous about BF, I didn't do it with DC's as it wasn't really spoken about like it is now and after feeling such a failure at not being able to give birth naturally I wasn't prepared to then fail at something else. This time I am determined that my body will be able to do something it is naturally supposed to do! CS babies are not usually hungry for the first day as they don't get the mucus squeezed out of them in the birth canal, so I am going to try to be led by the baby as to when it wants feeding rather than be told when to do it by a midwife who is trying to fit it into her schedule. The last thing I want is for the first time the baby to not want it and fail straight away.

So I am now on ML, and was thrown the most wonderful surprise baby shower by the team at work, homemade cupcakes with little feet on the top, flowers, hand knitted jacket and bootiies, teddies, 2 hampers of toiletries, and more baby groes than could ever be needed! I was so surprised and overwhelmed, it was lovely.

Here are some baby shower cupcakes for all :)