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CLOMID GANG - the new thread

842 replies

Roobedoo · 12/11/2005 21:43

This should be clomid and IUI (for Katierocket) thread. Hoping this one will be luckier than the last - can't be any worse, don't think we had a single BFP did we?

Lots and lots and lots of luck to us all.

OP posts:
Rachee · 18/05/2006 11:41

well, it's not happened for me this month, only got to day 24 !! and that was ater 100mgs and a hcg jab on day 13 having had a scan with a juicy folical waiting ....... lap and dye on 2nd June, hopefully that will show up something.

xXx

cd3 , (No clomid this month waiting lap and dye cd18) ,

Rachee · 18/05/2006 11:41

well, it's not happened for me this month, only got to day 24 !! and that was ater 100mgs and a hcg jab on day 13 having had a scan with a juicy folical waiting ....... lap and dye on 2nd June, hopefully that will show up something.

xXx

cd3 , (No clomid this month waiting lap and dye cd18) ,

Rachee · 18/05/2006 11:42

oops, don't know how it managed to post all of those ( only typed it once honest ) LOL

trace2 · 18/05/2006 11:51

so Rachee,

does anyone know if clomid made you ovulate, late in cycle?

Rachee · 18/05/2006 11:56

the hcg jab was suppose to time the eggs release, and we did as we were told and bk when we were supposed to LOL. but yes i do believe it makes you ov later. that was why i was perscribed it

trace2 · 18/05/2006 12:01

well it looks like i might have on day 20, usally get af from day 22 to 28

Rachee · 18/05/2006 12:36

that is very probable.... Good luck

coggy · 18/05/2006 13:43

I thought it would make me ov earlier...now I am even more confused than last time I was confused!!!! Shock
Feel like I am expecting AF...that would be extra early for me too - CD23 which is interesting...

Loubie - definitely worth going and being reassured. Make sure you rest loads.
X X X

trace2 · 18/05/2006 13:45

coggy, i to am confussed, i have no idea whats going on, only that i got a temp rise this morning, but i do too feel like af on herway as i am stuffing my face with saverys,

coggy · 23/05/2006 07:51

AF arrived yesterday (after trying to come for about a week!)
2nd cycle of clomid begins today!!

Loubie37 · 23/05/2006 09:44

Sorry to hear that Coggy, I wish you well with your 2nd month on the old dragon pills ;)

Don't give up hope, it took me 7 cycles :)

Loubie xx
due 17/1/07

Natty1806 · 23/05/2006 11:41

Hi LoubieSmile

Is everthing okay now? Bleeding stopped?

Loubie37 · 23/05/2006 11:51

Hi, I'm a lot happier about everything today thanks for asking :)

I'm still spotting (mostly brown but red on the odd occasion which scares me to death) but I've had 2 hcg blood tests done, one when I was 18DPO and the other at 22DPO (yesterday) and the results are really encouraging :) They're both well above average and doubling nicely...my levels have gone from 628 to 2803 in 4 days, they look for the levels to double every 2-3 days and mine have done more than that so I'm well happy :):)

Also I've got sore boobs and feel sick a lot of the time and I keep telling myself that would have started to wear off by now if the spotting was because something bad had happened - I've been like this for a week now.

Thanks again

Loubie xx
6+1

Natty1806 · 23/05/2006 13:26

Loubie

Glad to hear it. Smile Smile Smile

Maybe it is twins Wink

Keep us posted,even though i am sure you have moved over to the pregnancy thread.

Take care .x

coggy · 23/05/2006 18:13

Really good to hear that's everythings okay from you Loubie.
It looks weird seeing 2007 for your due date..doesn't seem a year ago I was looking forward to May 2005!!!
X

Loubie37 · 24/05/2006 12:46

I had my scan this morning and everything seems well. They couldn't see a heart beat but didn't expect to because as I thought, I'm not as far on as my dates suggest - they measured the sac at 9.3mm which suggests I'm 5+4 which ties in exactly with the day I got my smiley face so no surprises there. The sac is high up which is good, and I've got another scan date for 2 weeks when they should be able to see the heart beat and give me a more accurate EDD :):):):)

Back to work tomorrow!

Thanks for all your good wishes, it means so much

Loubie & mini mariner xx
5+4

Natty1806 · 24/05/2006 13:10

Excellent news Smile

dizzy36 · 24/05/2006 14:37

hi, not posted for a few months and I'm not a regular so hope you remember me

just started my third cycle of clomid. I chose not to be monitored last month for reasons I mention before, used opks and temp charting to see when ovulated which was day 13 or 14 so seems like back on track after late ov on 1st month of clomid (day 18).

have an appointment to see consultant next week to discuss ivf if clomid doesn't work this month. when prescribed clomid was told to consider other options if doesn't work in 3 or 4 months. I've read that some women can be on it for up to 12 months before getting pregnant. Is my consultant being a bit defeatist assuming if its going to work for me it will in 3/4 months.

although going do discuss ivf still not 100% sure I want to do it....and its not just the expense which could do withoug right now. Like iui i've read that theres a low success rate for 1st go at ivf...been referred to as a 'practice run'...very expensive one if thats the case.

I've been really sure about how I wanted to deal with my 'unexplained infertility' so far (had iui before the clomid). I'm pretty sure if I hadn't just turned 38 I wouldn't be turning to ivf quite so soon. Is this the wrong reason to be doing it...I really don't know. Any advice anyone

dizzy36 · 24/05/2006 14:38

hi, not posted for a few months and I'm not a regular so hope you remember me

just started my third cycle of clomid. I chose not to be monitored last month for reasons I mention before, used opks and temp charting to see when ovulated which was day 13 or 14 so seems like back on track after late ov on 1st month of clomid (day 18).

have an appointment to see consultant next week to discuss ivf if clomid doesn't work this month. when prescribed clomid was told to consider other options if doesn't work in 3 or 4 months. I've read that some women can be on it for up to 12 months before getting pregnant. Is my consultant being a bit defeatist assuming if its going to work for me it will in 3/4 months.

although going do discuss ivf still not 100% sure I want to do it....and its not just the expense which could do withoug right now. Like iui i've read that theres a low success rate for 1st go at ivf...been referred to as a 'practice run'...very expensive one if thats the case.

I've been really sure about how I wanted to deal with my 'unexplained infertility' so far (had iui before the clomid). I'm pretty sure if I hadn't just turned 38 I wouldn't be turning to ivf quite so soon. Is this the wrong reason to be doing it...I really don't know. Any advice anyone

coggy · 24/05/2006 15:43

I remember you dizzy although I think it was before I actually started posting - just lurking to see what MN was all about!!

I was told that if clomid doesn't work within 3 months...it's unlikely but...posts on here, and my own experience, had proved that wrong. That could be where you hospital is coming from though.

I was perscribed 6 months worth of clomid while I was on the IUI waiting list. All different area seem to do things so differently.

I've got very few days in my second phase of my cycle and the clomid sorted this out before. No-one at the fertility clinic even suggested it was a possibility and I only found out by 'mistake' by reading posts on here and investigating myself!

I'm now on my 2nd cycle of clomid.
(Had 3 cycles on it before two years ago.)

AttilaTheMeerkat · 24/05/2006 17:50

dizzy

I don't think your cons is actually being defeatist - more like realistic (clomid should be used for a maximum of six months after which time other treatments should be tried).

"Unexplained infertility" is infact no diagnosis at all - all this means is that the docs have so far failed to find out what is wrong.

The most common tests that tend to be omitted are:-
Adequate x-rays of the uterus which may show abnormalities not seen at laparoscopy in either the tubes or uterine cavity.
Hysteroscopy - telescope inspection of the inside of the uterus which may occasionally show abnormalities not otherwise seen.
Carefully timed post coital testing to see if sperms are surviving in the cervix
Repeated sperm counts over several weeks and months to make certain there is no subtle abnormality
Testing the sperm in special media - such as swim tests or velocity testing. When this is done it can sometimes uncover a hidden cause for the supposed "unexplained" problem.
Thorough hormone tests to detect abnormalities of male hormone or early falls in progesterone.
Scanning of the ovaries to see if follicles really are developing and there is no sign of polycystic ovaries.

If not all of the above tests have been carried out then one could argue you have not been adequately investigated (hence also the unexplained infertility tag).

Presumably you were given clomid as ovulation is problematic. In this regard polycystic ovaries or PCOS are common culprits. OPK's and temp charting if either of these two problems are issues are not recommended. Blood tests would be the most accurate indicator of whether you have ovulated or not - both opk's and temp charting are beset with problems and both methods can give misleading results. Have you been monitored regularly whilst on clomid - this should have happened. There is no sure fire way of telling whether its worked or not otherwise. As clomid can also affect levels of LH you should be monitored in any event.

I would not personally consider IVF following on from clomid - it is also too big a jump from a "basic" first stage treatment like clomid to something far more invasive like IVF. IVF is certainly not the cure all for all subfertility problems. Would suggest you talk through other treatment options with your cons at some length before embarking down the IVF route.

Hope the above helps a bit.

Hopecat · 24/05/2006 18:59

Atilla - am crashing this thread (sorry) as I've seen you post this type of advice before, and I find it all really interesting (particularly your advice re: OPKs and Temp charting - neither of which seem to work unless you live like a nun).

Are you a doctor?

Rachee · 24/05/2006 19:21

Dizzy, i thought the first round of IVF was free on the NHS ??? please can anyone clarify this.....

I live in devon and a local doctor has told me i will get one go on the nhs, i am 35. been trying for two years.

Rachee · 24/05/2006 19:24

i am on day 8, and still getting period like pains, really bad this month. does anyone else suffer....

coggy · 24/05/2006 19:41

Hi Rachee....long time no speak!!!
I am on CD3 and had period cramps for nearly seven days before AF finally came - never had that before.
Possibly clomid???!!!

I didn't realise you were also a Devon lass - how freaky is that?!! Grin

Can't stay for long as dh is calling.........