Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all laughing! All welcome! (Part 16)

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Hello! If you have recently miscarried and are thinking of or actively trying again come and join us! We offer plenty of cake, tea and wine if needed! Come in and laugh, cry and rant as needed, and don't be afraid of asking whatever questions you need answers to and we'll try our best to answer them.

Add yourself to the stats list whenever you are ready.

wttc = waiting to try to conceive
ucl = usual cycle length
wtf cycle = the time after your mc when you have no idea whats going on with your normal cycle

Lets hope this is a lucky thread and we all get our bfps!

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Part 15 here

IQ I'm terrible at staying hydrated too (even though I'm still breastfeeding!) always have been. WHenever I make a concerted effort to drink more, yup, I seem to pee every half hour.

eve We all have those massive ding-dongs now and then, that when you think 'what was that all about?!' it's not entirely clear. What with our losses(and haywire hormones), ttc, other littlies, and life in general it's no surprise that either one or both partners end up flipping out! Hope things are on a more even keel now.

pie I think you did the right thing in sharin with your friend. She probably feels a bit, y'know, that she has been making inappropriate enquiries. Anyway, more support can only be A Good Thing!

Good to see missG back, Journey home sounds UGH! but like the preceeding days made it worth it I personally am not a huge fan of It in the shower as I never reach my happy ending in there, iykwim? But somewhere different is still fun and when ttc it's all too easy to get lost in the functionality of what we're doing and not actually enjoy it!

summer you did make me smile with your 1dpo symtom mentalling! But, hey, here's hoping you actually DO have something to mental over come the end of the tww

whatso You have given me a mental image of you SWI'ing with crossed fingers, which is quite funny

poppy don't be sorry for a 'down' post - it's what we're here for. And, as you should have gathered by now from virtually ALL of us postin something similar at some point, it's very very NORMAL. Hope you're feeling a bit brighter now?

shimmery If your cycle is a regular 28 day cycle then you've pretty much covered all your bases. DO you ever get any fertile signs to indicate when you O?

marathon Great news on the conception indicator moving up a notch... now, when are you contacting the gp in order to get an early scan at the epu? I know Im assuming here, that you'd want one, so actually, I guess I'll modify that comment to are you goin to ask the gp to refer you to the epu?

Oh, speaking of which, IQ first, you're probably already aware, but your scan at 6 weeks will be via DildoCam ie an internal vaginal scan. And secondly, don't be too horrified if they don't see too much. A few days at this stage can mean all the difference between seeing a heartbeat and not. I mean, if you don't see it, it doesn't mean that you're out, y'know? Does the place offer a free rescan if it's a little too early?

As for me, I'm off to the gp this morning. Combo of wanting my thyroid testing (a few things have made me wonder over the last 3 & 1/2 months - much lower than usual bbt, 3 kilos put on even though nothing has changed about my diet/lifestyle, memory/motivation shot to heck, and weirdly I seem to be feeling pain more - I have a high pain threshhold usually and lately I seem to be saying 'aww, ouch!' all the time) and getting her to check what appears to be a blocked duct in my right boob. Oh, the glamour.

But this afternoon, DP is taking DS2 whilst I take DD and DS1 to the cinema to see HARRY POTTER! I can't deny I'm a little bit excited.

Morning all... anyone? Can offer decaf varieties if people prefer...and some nice croissants to go with ...mmm...yummy! (Now wishing I actually had croissants to eat!)

missg can't believe your journey home from hols!! Thinking we should invest in a larger shower...could be injuries if we were to try the action you speak of

IQ glad the water has helped, I'm never thirsty but when pg I was crazy thirsty, even during the night I'd wake up gasping for a drink...but also spent half the day on the loo!

marathon at your hcg levels...fantastic news!

manda hope you enjoy Harry Potter!

summer how's the symptom spotting?!

I have no idea if I've even ovulated and am now wondering what the overtiredness/heavy feeling around uterus/stuffy nose when I woke up this morning/feeling v emotional might be related too probably just more WTF cycle symptoms!!

Waves to eve, pie, whatso, poppy, shimmery and anyone else I've missed happy friday all!

Hmmm - never tried it in the shower. I'd be too afraid of slipping over

Manda - My cycle was 26 days on average pre-MC. I sometimes get ovulating signs, but I'm not always observant enough to realise until afterwards. At the moment I think I must be on track as normal and am ovulating around now (given how I feel down there) and given we dtd yesterday morning and will do so again tomorrow morning, I've probably got a fair chance. I would've also jumped DH today, but I only got 4 hours sleep and he's going to a dinner tonight [grumpy].

The sleep is my own fault though - I went to my work summer party (which was awesome) and then had to work until 1:30am getting a piece of work finished. I'd promised it to my boss by the end of Thursday...

pie - it is good to talk about these things. It's only then that we realise how many people have been affected - which is a surprising number.

Hello all, we're off to Centre Parcs with three DCs in tow this morning

Manda good to hear from you. Am v jealous re. [hsmile] Hope it's good! I'm dying to see it.

We're not going to get an early scan until about 9 weeks. Had an early scan at 7.5 weeks with the mmc and saw the heartbeat etc so don't think I'll be that reassured having an early scan. The baby died soon after that so think by 9 weeks I might find it more reassuring.

Good luck at the docs, hope they sort you out.

IQ would agree with Manda about the early scan. By 7 weeks they can usually see the heartbeat but probably not at 6 so don't get your hopes up. Glad the water is working, know what you mean about bloating. I can't fit into some of my clothes because of bloating and also because I haven't lost the weight from the mc pregnancy, I'm a right old fatty.

Blue those symptoms sound very hopeful... Keep us posted!

Pie glad you shared and feel better for it

Eve hope things are sorted with your DP?

Good luck to all those SWIing and/ or waiting. Who's in the 2ww?

waves to anyone I've missed. Crunchies all round...

Oh and ladies it's 5 weeks today so definitely not a chemical pregnancy

Yeah...that's good news marathon just keep going one day at a time and slowly the weeks will pass until you can have that scan!

For me, I'm assuming it's the WTF cycle with odd wonderings of it being something else but not getting any real hopes up at all as I don't think we DTD enough to have any chance at all...timing would be incredible if it has! Also whilst it's now 5 weeks since ERPC it's only 1.5weeks since bfn so it is unlikely...but will do a little mentalling to get in practice for next cycle

right i have loads to catch up on you lot here but am gonna be back at lunchtime - my director walked behind me before when i was on MN so i am shitting myself being a bit more discreet. but i can come on when on lunch so catch you all in a bit!

decaff niiiice

ARHHHHHHHH post just got ate by MN. Knew I should of copy and pasted it!! any way.

Summer - do so work :-)

Blue - fingers crossed you never know. I came off the pill in the middle of march and was Pg 2 weeks later without really trying v hard Lets hope we see lots more BFP all round.

MM and IQ. You are doing so well. i can't imagine how you must be feeling. We all hope for our BFP then the worrying begins. Got everything crossed for you both for the next 36 weeks :-) enjoy centre parcs. Which one you going too?

Shimmery - glad you enjoyed the party - pants about the lack of sleep. I am getting old and I am rubbish on less that 9 hours - and I think I another baby is a good idea!!!!

Manda - hope you all enjoyed harry potter - you will have to report back and let us know what you thought of it.

IQ - hope you are feeling ok. Keep the water levels up.

DP has apologies for his out burst - still feeling hurt that he felt it ok to shout at me like that. We had some terrible time a couple of yers ago and it was just like that. We all have our moments though and he has said sorry several times so need to move on.

On the plus side we got a BFN this week - so can get back to DTT. Although I don't much fancy it really. Not sure if I sould wait for AF and then be sure. We were never confident with the last pg as I got pg stright away once stopping the pill. no AF.

I have also got a dress for my sister wedding in Sept. I could wait another 6 weeks and diet a bit more but it was in the sales. I wanted to get down to size 14, but got into 16. I was 22 at the beginning of the year so am happy with that. Enough of my waffle.

Hope everyone has a great weekend we have a BBQ in the forest on Sunday with DP work - fingers crossed for the weather.

Hi all,

Firstly must apologise for causing confusion - I'm having an early scan not a viability scan. The private Dr will check for anything else that can be seen but has warned me that 'the real stuff'' probably hasnt started to happen yet. Which I accept - I just want to know dates and make sure that something is "actually happening" inside there and it isnt all in my head!!! Not sure who said it but yeah i know its the internal one, had one done before so not too worried about that.

Have been having a frustrating day so far!!! Rang the Dr.s to see if they had made any progress with my 'urgent dating scan' - was told they had no idea and to ring the unit. Rang the unit only to be told that it would take 10 days to 2 weeks for my referal to get into the system and then would maybe take another week for an appointment to come through....apparently they are 'snowed under' and way behind on appointments. I explained my concerns to the lady and was basically told that I had no choice but to wait as I wasnt experiencing any pain or bleeding...!!!!

On a nice note - have decided that if I like the private Dr I will go back with DH before he goes away so that we can see the baby (if it gets that far) - should be about 7/8 weeks so hopefully will see heartbeat ect so he can at least enjoy that one!!!

Hi Peeps!

Nearly home-time - whoop whoop! And a forecast of heavy rain for the weekend, GRRRRR! It's still blue skies out of the office window so hoping it lasts a bit longer!

eve good news about the BFN, it's such a relief when it arrives isn't it. Mine took ages (nearly 6 weeks). We didn't wait for AF to arrive before trying again (the EPU said because of my age not to waste any time - mmmm, no pressure then!)

summer - the SMEP doesn't involve temps but it does involve OPKs? I get mine super cheap from Amazon, think you get about 10 for £2.50 or something.

blue have you noticed any ov symptoms? My AF arrived about 2.5 weeks after my BFN, I thought it would be 4 weeks (based on what i've read) but it was much earlier for me.

marathon - which Center Parcs are you going to? We are toying with the one in the Lakes for the end of October.

manda - how did it go with the GP today?

Happy positive bump vibes to IQ and marathon, happy 2ww symptom spotting, getting WTF cycles sorted out and SWI to the rest of us! Fingers crossed this is a lucky thread! XX

Waves, and big hellos to everybody else! 15 mins till home time so had better tidy up and do a bit of work (and chow down on an iced bun!)

Hey sorry i didnt get a chance to catch up.

piemistress and eve we were hoping for a BBQ this weekend as my sister, other sister and her boyf are coming to stay, we hoped for a little belated birthday celebration for DS. Ah well we will just have to celebrate with when he goes to bed!

IQ am not surprised about the crapness re the NHS scan, they really dont give a shit what you have been through it is all about money but at least you can go private which is an absolute must if you can do it.

eve can i just stand up and give you a round of applause for getting from a size 22 to 16 - you little minx! well done - how d'you do it? glad you and DH have made up. Honestly - rows over DCs are the 'norm'

blue hows about some synchronised mentalling? eh eh? can i join you? i have still got the sharp pain in my side which only usually lasts a day

marathon i totally agree with you re the scan, i would prob ask for one circa 10 weeks as i had my MC at 9-10 weeks, so at least i would know that it is sticking [fingers crossed] and yay for your 5 week old bubba!!

shimmery you is livin' on the edge lady -love it!

I have had a good news v bad news day. Good news is that HR have approved my part time request and it is from 1 August - yayy! But sadly my friend has told me her cancer is stage 1V my response was 'well they have got a lot of work to do so had better get on with it' i think that was the right response what do you say? (FTR Stage 1V is the worst kind)

waves to manda missg and anyone i have missed!

summer I am so so sorry to hear about your friend...I think your response was great...a good challenge for the PMA all around and great to show your friend that you are with her and will support her through what's likely to be a rough time ahead as she goes for treatment etc! Great news about your work though and yes to synchronised mentalling!

I was v emotional again last night but had a good chat and cuddle with DH - feel as though I've hardly seen him all week 'cos of his new shifts which probably hasn't helped either. Will go back to bed for a snuggle bit later (he's still fast asleep) I just snook out of bed early to see if I couls have a look at the Next sale online...in a queuing system though!! ooh...looks as though i'm at the front now...catch up in a bit!

Next online sale shopping completed...far too much ordered, guess a lot of it will end up going back as won't fit etc but worth a try when it's on offer...am all sleepy again though so think I may go back to bed...this being one of the good things about not having any DCs yet...saturday lie-ins still exist...though I would happily trade them in for a little one!

Hope the weather is better with you all than it is here - grey and dreary! Probably no BBQ today summer but hope you manage the wine instead!

pie I may have had ov symptoms, lots of EWCM a week or so ago but they could just be WTF cycle symptoms instead

marathon hope you have a great time at Centre Parcs! I love the pools and spa there

missg, whatso, manda, shimmery, eve, IQ how are you all today?

Right...time to top up my sleep methinks...catch you all later on!

thank you blue lots of PMA in the Summerbird camp!

and to you with your saturday morning lie ins! we were up at 6.45am this morn still i have only just got out of the shower!

have a good weekend everyone, might not check in until tomorrow night as got a busy one

Oh, summer what sad news re: your friend. Is it too much for me to ask what type of cancer it is? Some have much better outcomes than than others. Really hoping that with the right, agressive treatment and lots of PMA/lovesupport your friend can pull through this.

Perhaps if you're going ahead with the bbq can I suggest a sowester and galoshes? absolutely chucking it down here. It is summer, after all...

blue I got a vip invite to the sale... Didn't bother taking them up on it though! I can't be arsed trawling through everything online when I get distracted so often by DS2. Hope you managed to get some good stuff that won't have to be returned!

So. Potter. Is soooo good. Almost cried three times (DD did cry three times!). Even though I read the book (I think in two days, from the day it was released) I haven't revisited it since, and had forgotten a load of stuff (that actually came back to me once I saw it). I don't want to give away any spoilers but my favourite 'line' from the book was in there so I was chuffed . Looking forward to buying it on bluray as I can't imagine I'll get to the cinema 3+ times like I have done for the others (from PoA but not for DHpt1 )

CD13 today. Feeling a bit twangy around my left ovary (which is the one that usually seems to do all the work, I think my right ovary took early retirement!). COnsidering O was cd20 last month, I don't know whether it's a fake out! I'm pissed off at DP too, so if I wanna cover my bases, I'll have to get over that first. Bah!

Oh, and forgot to mention, gp thinks (as I did, but wanted to be sure) my lump is a blocked duct. And I had blood taken to check my thyroid. Although nice guidelines say fsh should be below 2 when ttc, she said 'if it's above 4 we'll keep an eye on it and if over 10 then treatment is needed' which I was about but decided I wouldn't say anything until I have the result so that I don't look like a pushy know it all. Safe to say that if it's over TWO I shall be producing a printout of the guidelines and reminding her I'm ttc!

Summer, so sorry to hear about your friend. It's not easy knowing exactly what to do or say in such an awful situation, but I being positive is definitely the best option. It would do her no good for people around her to start acting as if it's all over already. Here's some seriously strong PMA for ya

Marathon, good to hear its all going well so far. You are in my PMA thoughts every day, as is IQ. And I am gping to polityle refuse your crunchie, as the french cheese bread and wine diet has done nothing for my waist line! Ah, bugger it, I'll take one afterall. I am still on my hols (technically, don't go back to work til Tues), make it a kingsize

Blue, sounds as though your WTF cycle may be nearing the end? I hope so. For comparison, I took 4 weeks 3 days after ERPC to get my BFN, then a further 2 weeks 5/6 (memory terrible) days until AF arrived. A day or two before AF arrived, I was imaginary symptom spotting: didn't know if I was spotting Ov or pg symptoms right enough, just mentalled about every little twinge or pain I felt. I had this twingey feeling, so decided it was either a) implantation (insanity had stepped in by that time) or b) Ov. As AF arrived a couple of days later, assume it was just AF related cramp. Dammit! But, also not dammit too, as AF arrived and I felt I knew where I was at least. FX your there v soon.

Manda I'm going to be straight with you: just forgive DP - temporarily even - and get down to it, or close your eyes and pretend he's gerard butler . Don't waste time woman! As I now consider myself to be CD12, and have been having been having lots of SWI, I am almost in the 2ww. EEEEEEEEEEK! Preparing for more mad mentalling, and I need you to to join me!!

Hi Pie, Shimmery Eve Whatso Poppy and anyone else I've missed. Still haven't found the time to read through all the goss from the past week and a bit! My, you ladies know how to talk!

Picked my DD up from airport this morning. Am so happy to have her back. 16 days is a long time to be separted! And she is sooooo tanned. Am wel jel . I came home from france even whiter than I left!

Blue, have just read over your last post properly. You never know! As I'm sure you have, I've heard of people getting pg straight away. So, when I say:

"FX you're there v soon." (ooops, earlier misuse of 'your' )

I obviously mean one of 2 thngs: AF arriving OR you joining the Marathon/IQ camp with a BFP! .

Just to add to to your mentalling......

Uh, missG aren't we here to tone down/soothe the mentallers, rather than encourage them?!

But you are correct, of course!

I've been thinking, I don't think that hcg has to return to zero (or there abouts) in order for one to ovulate as I've read hcg is used as a trigger when women are doing iui cycles. So it's used to INDUCE ovulation?! Therefore, I would assume that once hcg is lowish, a new cycle is able to begin, even without a true bfn, and so in theory you could pretty much O at any point during the WTF cycle. Or not. It's not called WTF for nuffink y'know?

Oh, and I took your advice missg - bases covered. Although, ew, I wasn't thinking of Gerard Butler Being a lady, I thought of England.

Quick 'hi it's saturday night and i'm home alone cause DP has gone surfing with his mate in the torrential rain, so having a pizza!'

Sorry for a me post - but, I normally ovulate on CD17 (well I did pre DS, and post DS) but this is my first cycle post m/c and i've got a positive OPK on CD12 ?!!

GRRRRRR! We haven't really been SWI as I figured I still had a couple of days yet so not sure WTF is going on! We did DTD at lunchtime today though (following mahhoosive row - maybe something is in the air!) and there is no way it will happen again tonight after surfing so I am going to have to pounce on him tomorrow night and hope I haven't missed the egg. BUT, I haven't really noticed any EWCM and I usually get it so there's a chance the OPK is wrong

Hope everybody else is having a great Saturday night, sorry again for me me me post but i'm now very confused!

Just wrote a really long post - with personal message for everyone and then it was swallowed by MN....!!!!

Will be back tomorrow as I am so annoyed I dont wanna miss anyone - hope you're all having a good weekend so far....can't believe Sunday is already here.....that means Monday is hot on it's heels!!!

Xxx

Hi all

Tried to see HP7 yesterday but failed to book in advance and so the next available showing was 2 hours away (and I'm not that patient). Ended up going shopping instead, before enticing DH with my purchases...

Today starts the 2ww for definite. I'm pretty sure that ovulation was Friday - day 15 (damn that lack of sleep) but I think the dtd on 12, 13,14, and 16 should have covered it. The lack of sleep was worth it though - my work do had olympic team members and former members as guests, and I got to meet James Cracknell (and several very, very attractive rowers).

Pie - if you had the OPK positive yesterday, I think that means you still get today tomorrow and maybe tuesday to dtd? Is your DP's surfing a whole-weekend thing?

Blue - how's the mentalling?

Summer - so sorry about your friend. It sounds like you said the right thing.

Hi to everyone else. Especially those with OPKs.

And, of course, good vibes to those with BFPs

Evening all...been a busy weekend and can't believe it's 9pm Sunday evening already...sooo much left to do and a busy week ahead too...guess I'm not going to get it all done really...ho hum!!

Been a bit distracted from the mentalling this weekend but still no sign of AF and no EWCM anymore (well not for a few days now) but I have been rather emotional and PMTy so will still just have to wait and see...

Will check in properly tomorrow as must crack on with my to-do list again...