JSing viroids, on your marks, get set, shag!

[JosieSmith1]

The (updated)(again)(again)(again) 'rules' from our Just Shagging Originator for the Viroids:

Maintain a relaxed attitude at all times - drink if you want too, especially on your birthday (or when you've had bad news). Thread precedent dictates if you drink to excess you will get a BFP (but not recommended). (But it does work).

Covet thy husband and enjoy every minute. Shag at every opportunity - shag-capes and awesome superpowers optional.

Keep acronym-age to a minimum! EWCM is now to be referred to as 'pant snot'. Try not to get sucked in by Fertility Friend (at least for a while), but knowing where you are in your cycle and furkling for pant snot is most definitely allowed.
OV is ovulation - I'm allowed to forget what date I've OVd, feel free to join me on that one!

Bunting is to be put out for any small victory, thread-parties are held regularly and hugs are always welcome!

Once you have your BFP, feel free to hang around and share your wisdom and virtual cocktails with the JSers.

Keep us up to date with gossip!

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Most of these rules are well and truly broken!! But we try to chill - honest

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Part 1 Graduates:
Tanmu82 - BFP
PrivetDancer - BFP
OnlyWantsOne - BFP
Frankenfanny ? BFP
Notso - BFP
knittakid - BFP
loopeylu - BFP
PinkFondantFancy - BFP
Grannyapple ? BFP
Fuzzywood - BFP
canoe - BFP
janedoe - BFP
StarflowerGirl - BFP

Part 2 Graduates:
ihaveaplan - BFP
lovemylulu - BFP
shitforbrains - BFP
gormers - BFP

Part 3 Graduates
Bonkerz - BFP
Kitten - BFP
Cowboylover - BFP
takingtheplunge ? BFP

Part 4 Graduates:
NoMoreChocBiscuits - BFP
Milanomum - BFP
Cremegg - BFP
BrassicaBabe - BFP
Dynababy - BFP

Part 5 Graduates:
TakeThatLady - BFP
Vallinna - BFP
SingingMog - BFP
aDarkStarWithStrangeWays - BFP
Eskarina - BFP

Part 6 Graduate
Reality - BFP

Part 7 Graduates:
Katiepie - BFP
CaramelGirl - BFP
Nickelbabe - BFP
Panpie - BFP
Brightcopperkettles - BFP

If temping is a good luck charm then bring in on!!!! (though OH nearly spat coffee through his nose this morning when he asked what on earth I was doing wiggling about - my reply of 'I've got to do this before I get out of bed or it won't be accurate' didn't seem to cut it - so he lifted the duvet up to see.... got more than he bargained for methinks.... )

Oh Lucy you are brave dedicated. I considered temping, even got as far as buying a BBT thermometer; but NEVER considered needing to go under the covers to take it . Or were you taking your temp under your armpit and I'm being rather presumptious and inappropriate . Anyway I decided that I was far to disorganised for that; and as I am now getting up in the middle every night to feed my horse (long story) I'm not sure I'd get the period of uninterrupted sleep needed to make it worthwhile?

Huge congratulations to SES. Though I can understand your concern, so am throwing sticky substances in your direction . Though depending on how filthy your mind is, that could be me being inappropriate again...!

OH and I managed a reunion shag yesterday . Though as expected, it wasn't the sexy reunion I'd hoped for as I was indeed gardening and muddy when he got home. So anyway, one way or another I guess I'm on the 2ww. Feels like ages since I last did it, as I missed last cycle entirely .

Fingers crossed for bambam that the pink isn't what you think it is.

Waves hello to Katee and also belatedly to Coyboy (), great to have some Grads pop in to say hi. Though I have to confess to regularly stalking you all, as I love keeping up with your antics :)

Bit :( about going back to work tomorrow. I did work in the middle of last week, but that didn't really count. 4 day weekends are awesome :)

Huge congrats Hotcross!!!

Sorry to everyone who as got by ERTD (including myself). Can?t say I wasn?t expecting it ? was ill last month so there wasn?t much JSing going on.

I might be awol for a little while girlies ? DH and I have decided not to try these next couple of months. Only because with it being summer there?s loads of jumping events that I could do with the horse, but not if I?m upduffed as there?s too much risk of falling off, so if I got upduffed now it?d ruin my summer. Selfish I know but it?s only a couple of months. If I got upduffed in July most of the events would be over and then I could be massive over the winter and not miss much. I fell off on Saturday incidentally, which is what helped me make the decision.

Anyway, hope you all had a lovely weekend. I?ll probably still be lurking, you know I can?t keep away that long and will keep an eye out for any BFPs

hullo hullo, back again, bah, after m/c a couple of weeks ago. Was a bit sad as it felt like it was due to my own stupidity (we'd been at dd's godmother's wedding, which was lovely, at her family home- dd went into chicken run and ended up with diarrhoea & vomiting all night which was horrid for all of us and hotel room!). Then I caught same d & v for v hot drive home to marathon blocked house. And started bleeding.
So I am definitely washing my hands non-stop next time even every 45 minutes throughout the sodding night.
In more positive news we've just got back from a shag-tastic holiday in Spain and am feeling quietly hopeful- I cheated and bought the CB ov stick thing which gave me a nice smiley face, I know, I know, Viroid Rule Break! DH is v keen to have a ds and keeps asking when I can POAS- no pressure... I am trying to be as chilled as possible about it and won't count my chickens for a while if I do get that BFP
Hope life is slowly feeling better babylann, always think sunshine helps a bit?
Big congratulations HotCrossES fx'd for you and how exciting Katee- I think it's just amazing when you realise that they are busy exercising away whilst you are watching TV, or trying to sleep (grr) or whatever.
And that sounds quite sensible Josie but please be safe, just heard of a friend with v nasty riding accident, so hold on tightly

Hi Caramel, really sorry to hear about your m/c but glad you seem to be feeling better. I will be extra careful on the horse, falling off hurts more now than when I was a kid

Thanks for the congrats

Josie - hope you're not suffering after your fall. Probably a good thing to take a break for a few months if there's more of a risk. Don't feel you hae to take a break from the thread too if you want to keep in touch!

Caramel - welcome back but sorry for your mc. Your holiday in Spain sounds great!

Nelly - yay for reunion shag!!

Lucy - I only ever took my temp orally. I thought that was about as much as I could cope with of a morning!

Katee - yay for movements! I never really felt much with DS as he was lying in a v cramped and awkward position.

Bam - Even thinking about getting healthy helps I think - good luck :)

Sorry for those who've ben caught by AF - hope the new cycles bring much EWCM, JSing and BFPS!

Thanks Hotcross, not suffering too much now but I pulled the muscles in my neck so was pretty sore for a couple of days . You know I'll still be here can't stay away. Anyway, we've sort of decided that if I got pg now I could still ride and do some of the smaller jumps but not push her too much and no competitions Always get my own way

ECG results back today - everything is normal That should help the anxiety to bugger off, at least! I used the positive buzz I got from the good news to motivate me to have a huge clear-out in our bathroom, and it looks fabulous, if I may say so. Got about half way through the kitchen, before a horrible headache consumed the rest of my energy, and I've been lazing around feeling sorry for myself ever since. My Avon lady came around and cheered me up with the stuff I ordered a little while ago, and also the news that she's pregnant - she seemed so excited, it was lovely.

Pleased to hear you're getting the kicks now, Katee! Enjoy them while they're still fun and unintrusive... Won't be long til the baby is kicking you straight in the belly button. Nothing more awkward than that feeling!

Hope everything goes well with the temping Lucy. I definitely wouldn't have the motivation to do that, not until I've been trying for a year or so anyway.

Sorry you have to go back to work Nelly!

Good luck with all the jumping events, Josie. I'm sure the viroids will all still be here when you get back. Shame you won't be able to cash in on thread-starters luck, though!

So sorry to hear about your mc, caramel. Try not to feel too much pressure to present your OH with a son! Getting too attached to a sex is no fun - my mum said I looked like I'd been "smacked in the face" when I found out I was having a girl, I'd been convinced and secretly hoping for a boy for a long time - obviously it wore off after a few hours, but at first I couldn't get my head around how I was "allowed" to feel about it.

Hi everyone!

That's lovely about the kicks katee. I loved feeling DS kick. He used to get hiccups every night after dinner too - very odd feeling!

Welcome back caramel, and glad you are feeling good again. Shag cape at the ready! Fingers crossed for you this month.

Josie please check in whenever you can, and don't disappear just 'cos you're not "trying". And take care on that horse! I love horses, but sat on one once when I was little, and was terrified at being so high up! Am considering pont trekking this summer!

Hi babylann. Glad everything was fine with the ECG. Deep breaths now, and dive in with the shag cape!

Still looking like ERTD for me. No worries though, I was expecting it. We hardly broke any shag-records last month. Here's hoping for next time!

Morning everyone!!

Yay for SES!! Congrats!

Sorry to Caramelgirl, but good to see you're back in the saddle and raring to go! I echo what was said about not feeling too much pressure to provide a son - if you're anything like my sister, you could end up with 3 DDs before having a DS (although she has 3 DSs and is now at last expecting a DD)

CD5 here, ERTD gone and we're already JSing! I'm back on the pregnacare vits and EPO - pulling out all the stops this month!

OH and I were out over the weekend and there were loads of newborns to coo over ... we both kept looking at them, awwwing, then exchanging soppy grins! Now, OH is big on The Law Of Attraction thing, if you want something enough, it will manifest (I'm do believe that too, but he's WAY into it) so going by that, with him being extra soppy and broody, we stand a better chance than before ... helped along by the fact that we're JSing more because he's not feeling that fear of getting me pregnant now! Dons positive thinking cap

Morning all!

Great news about the positive attitude and JSing there crow! I hope that the law of attraction works for you. I read a thing a couple of months ago about writing what you want on a piece of paper, sitting quietly and thinking about it, and then burning it with a candle flame, to send the "vibes" out to the cosmos. It hasn't worked for me yet, but I'm staying hopeful!

Glad your results were ok Babylann

Bam I wouldn?t recommend starting riding before getting pg. If you get bitten by the bug you?ll be gutted to not be able to ride when you get bigger

Crow well done for excellent usage of the shag cape

My pg colleague just felt the baby kick for the first time (she has been having loads of bother recently and hasn?t felt it move at all). Was fab for her and everyone else, not so much for me I?m dealing with it a lot better now though, I?m able to see her and think it?ll happen to me one day. It?s still not easy but it?s much much better these days.

Have had a long chat with DH about how much riding we would be happy for me to do whilst pg and we?ve agreed that we are going to keep trying (we?re so close to the year mark we figure it has to happen soon ) and if it does happen I?ll just stick to smaller jumps and just take it easy. There?s always next year aswell. You never know, when I get pg the urge to ride might go away and I might not mind not doing jumping events this year.

Bam I'm going to give that a go ... I've done similar for years, being a practitioner of, ahem - 'the Craft' but strangely never done it for this! Will send out good baby making vibes for everyone else while I'm at it!

On my way home from work now, and shall be making use of that shag cape later hopefully

Sorry to hear about your ERTD, Bam. Glad you are taking it well though.

Good job on the JSing already, crowette! And it's lovely that you and your OH got to experience some newborns to keep the morale up. I remember going to my cousin's daughter's birthday party when I was pregnant; seeing all those little 3 year olds running around made me even more desperate to get my own baby into the world.

Out of curiosity, Josie, is it definitely safe to horse ride at all when pregnant? Only because I remember my midwife saying I wasn't allowed to go running or do any sports, only walking, swimming and pg-yoga. Maybe she was just overly cautious, but just wondering.

Well my headache knocked me to sleep at 8:30 last night, which meant I got up at 6am today, which isn't like me (usually 1am-8am sleeptime). But it was so refreshing, being able to get everything ready for the day - I made a soup for DP's lunch, dished up a fried egg and toast (and a cup of tea) for DP, got DD's breakfast ready, did a little gardening, started cleaning the kitchen. DP was so appreciative, and even though he usually brings me toast in bed every morning, I couldn't help feeling like I'm the perfect partner (not that it's my goal - I'm quite rigidly feminist, but still!)

Strangely I'm on CD7 and am still getting spotting. Usually my periods finish around 4 days, perhaps with a bit of spotting on the 5th day. But I'm just going to reassure myself that my body has a lot of catching up to do after over 3 months sans period.

And in my biggest news of the day, I've had a haircut, which is SO much shorter than I usually have it. (I lie, I haven't had my haircut professionally for 7 years - I do it myself. Hence why at the end of pregnancy, I literally had dreadlocks in some of my hair from all the split ends and knotting.) But I've promised to start making more of an effort with my appearance. If nothing else, it's getting kinda tiring being ID'd for everything and getting judgemental glances in the street when people assume I'm a 16-year-old mum on benefits who doesn't know who her baby-daddy is - and I figured having an unstyled haircut made me look really childish, as silly as that sounds. So now, I have a super styled haircut which is really short (for me) - about chin length. Usually it goes beyond my boobs. A very dramatic change - but I quite like it, and everybody else seems to love it too, so I'm very happy with it now.

oooh - haircut sounds super Babylann - amazing how a new style can make you feel like a new person! Sounds great... I'm very jealous (I just have 'hair' rather than a 'hairstyle' because most mornings I don't think I'd have the will to try and tame it.) My hair isn't curly, but isn't straight - is just kinda bent. and best left to do its own thing!!

Carried on with the temping - been quite intersting to see a pattern start to emerge. Makes me confident I know when I OVed this month, whereas normally I'm just guessing. The bad news is it also makes me certain that on the magical days we only managed SWI once - and now it's too late!!! But trying not to pile the pressure on the lazy lovely OH and reminding myself that one is all you need!!!!

Got a long two weeks ahead of me now - promising myself I'm not going to symptom spot for two weeks as it makes no difference and serves only to make me miserable!

Don't go josie - you can stay and regale us with your horsey stories rather than your TTC stories - It's all good.

Morning viroids!

crow that's lovely that you will send out positive vibes for us all. Thank you. I have tried so many things (praying to God, saints, angels, asking the universe, lighting candles etc) and have so many luck baby-making charms (moonstones, new jade) but maybe some extra vibes will help!

I like the sound of your "grown up" haircut babylann! I have long hair, and it's so wild and thick and hard to do anything with, so it's usually tied back. I keep thinking about getting it chopped, but I know DP and DS both like it long.

Fingers crossed for you Lucy.

DP liked mine long too Bam, whenever I joked about getting it cut short "like a boy's cut", he'd scrunch his face up and say "No, it wouldn't suit you." Yesterday I went to the hairdresser and didn't tell him what I planned to have, and he really liked it. Good job too!

And Lucy, you hair seems a little like mine. Well, I'd probably say it has waves, not curls. It can actually look quite nice with the right hairstyle, to have "surfer girl" look. Will wash my hair tonight and learn what it looks like natural, and unwaxed from the hairdresser.

I'm on, what, CD8? And I already feel pregnant! I'm so terrible at this. But I've been going to the toilet every half an hour and started crying at a thread - not a special thread full of sadness, but a DIET thread, where people were offering tips about losing weight. Reminds me of the time I started crying when I saw cars moving to the side of the road for an ambulance, saying, "It's so nice that in times of crisis, people work together... [sobsob]" But that time I WAS pregnant. I'm a lunatic.

Glad your DP likes your new style babylann. The thing is, I had really short hair when we first met, and it's just grown and grown, and now it's halfway down my back. I get it trimmed, but it's very thick and unruly. I really need it to be either very long or very short, as in between lengths make me look like Crystal Tips!

Quiet on here today.

I am still waiting for ERTD to start properly. So far I have avoided the dreaded "maybe it's just spotting" thought, as I know it will come in it's full glory any time now!

Baby;ann it?s probably not safe to ride whilst pg, I think it?s personal preference but from what I?ve heard most midwives/doctors don?t agree with it , will see how I feel if it ever happens . Yippee for your haircut, it can make such a difference to your self-esteem. And, my ERTD seems to be lasting longer than usuall too , CD 6 here and still spotting. Change in weather perhaps?

Aw thanks Lucy, you?ll get sick of my horsey stories I bet, I can go on and on and on?.

Nothing to report here except that my pg colleague told me how much she pays for nursery, which has made me rethink the while TTC situation! It?s ridiculously expensive, doubt I could afford it! Retired mam will have to be my nursery

Oops, sorry Babylann I must learn to type!

Thanks for the crossed fingers Bam - that's a better charm than the others you've mentioned I'm sure! any news on ERTD? Crossing my fingers that maybe (just maybe) this month she'll pass you by?

Babylann - re. riding whilst pg - I can't claim to be an expert (social rider who hasn't owned a horse since age 16) but I of people I know who have started families recently damn them all but one have stopped riding at least until baby was with them. I think the risk of falling is always there with riding, and when it's only your own health at risk we happily take the chance, but when there would be so much more at stake???? I'm not sure. That said - I'm sure MILLIONS of women carry on riding and just take it gently.

Was doing some research of my own into childcare costs/arrangements yesterday josie - Mind blowing expense!!!! I have always had a naive dream that I'd be a 'proper' stay at home mum - but in reality I know I'd miss working if I didn't go back at least part time after a while. And keeping your sanity as a parent is important I think. Have you asked your HR people at work what they offer in the way of childcare vouchers? (tax deductible and will save you £1-2k per year) plus don't forget you get 12.5hours of nursery free once they reach a certain age?

Thanks Lucy I didn't know any of that. I'm reluctant to contact my HR dept to be honest, the contact woman is best mates with my boss and although she knows what's going on I don't want them discussing it over dinner that's stupid of me I know but I'd rather bury my head in the sand until it happens

Morning everyone!

Bah, the red witch has me good and proper today, damn her. Really heavy and sore, so I'm on the Anadin Extra. DP is going out tonight, so I'll have a nice quiet evening to myself once DS is in bed.

How's your hair babylann? I get so nervous the first time I wash it after a cut, and I never get it looking nearly as good again.

Thanks for your crossed fingers too Lucy but, well, see above! I will keep your crossed fingers for the coming month though!

It's okay Bam, thanks for asking! I was a bit worried, but actually I kind of prefer it the way I've dried it. He styled it so it was all flicky and "hairdresser poster" worthy. When the flicks dropped out, the volume stayed and I felt a bit like a mushroom. I've made it a bit flatter and more "me".

Sorry to hear about your ERTD finally arriving :( I guess a small consolation is you've been waiting for it for days now, knowing it would come, which can't have been fun. At least now your cycle is ready for another go of it too.

Josie, regarding nurseries/SAHMing, I can only speak as a SAHM myself and say if I had a job to go back to, I would probably be quite tempted as it can get very very boring around here . (There's no point in me finding a new job as it'd be something minimum wage probably and all my money would be spent on childcare anyway. DP can look after us for now.) I also have a free nursery who goes by the name "mum", but I don't really want to leave DD with her every day. Not because she wouldn't do a good job - she's a fantastic nana - but because I've gone through all the hard boring months of the first year, and soon she is going to be chatty and playing and I want to be the one to get the benefit of all that work! I agree with Lucy that having a job, even part time, would help me stay sane. How often I'm sitting around twiddling my thumbs probably encourages the anxiety problems I have.

Glad your hair is fine babylann! I know what you mean about all the volume that the hairdressers put in. I always want to flatten my hair out as well, as I hate it looking too bouffant!

I have experience of being a SAHM and a working mum, and I have to say I love being a SAHM. I went back to work when DS was about 8 months old, and my mum looked after him. It still breaks my heart that it was her that heard his first words, saw his first steps etc, and I felt like my bond with him was broken a bit, even though he has a fantastic bond with his granny. If (when?) I have another, I am determined not to do that again. I love being able to take him to and from school, cook his tea etc. I know what you mean about the boring times, but it's so worth it to be with your DC I think.

Sorry if that doesn't help much Josie, but that's my honest experience.