JSing viroids, on your marks, get set, shag!

[JosieSmith1]

The (updated)(again)(again)(again) 'rules' from our Just Shagging Originator for the Viroids:

Maintain a relaxed attitude at all times - drink if you want too, especially on your birthday (or when you've had bad news). Thread precedent dictates if you drink to excess you will get a BFP (but not recommended). (But it does work).

Covet thy husband and enjoy every minute. Shag at every opportunity - shag-capes and awesome superpowers optional.

Keep acronym-age to a minimum! EWCM is now to be referred to as 'pant snot'. Try not to get sucked in by Fertility Friend (at least for a while), but knowing where you are in your cycle and furkling for pant snot is most definitely allowed.
OV is ovulation - I'm allowed to forget what date I've OVd, feel free to join me on that one!

Bunting is to be put out for any small victory, thread-parties are held regularly and hugs are always welcome!

Once you have your BFP, feel free to hang around and share your wisdom and virtual cocktails with the JSers.

Keep us up to date with gossip!

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Most of these rules are well and truly broken!! But we try to chill - honest

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Part 1 Graduates:
Tanmu82 - BFP
PrivetDancer - BFP
OnlyWantsOne - BFP
Frankenfanny ? BFP
Notso - BFP
knittakid - BFP
loopeylu - BFP
PinkFondantFancy - BFP
Grannyapple ? BFP
Fuzzywood - BFP
canoe - BFP
janedoe - BFP
StarflowerGirl - BFP

Part 2 Graduates:
ihaveaplan - BFP
lovemylulu - BFP
shitforbrains - BFP
gormers - BFP

Part 3 Graduates
Bonkerz - BFP
Kitten - BFP
Cowboylover - BFP
takingtheplunge ? BFP

Part 4 Graduates:
NoMoreChocBiscuits - BFP
Milanomum - BFP
Cremegg - BFP
BrassicaBabe - BFP
Dynababy - BFP

Part 5 Graduates:
TakeThatLady - BFP
Vallinna - BFP
SingingMog - BFP
aDarkStarWithStrangeWays - BFP
Eskarina - BFP

Part 6 Graduate
Reality - BFP

Part 7 Graduates:
Katiepie - BFP
CaramelGirl - BFP
Nickelbabe - BFP
Panpie - BFP
Brightcopperkettles - BFP

Not dumb, but I think I know enough of you to think you would NOT be impressed. Woo is all the hippy stuff like hanging crystals and aligning chakras and all that stuff. And enzymes is a bit tenuous nutritionally I thnk. Idea is that the more alive the food, the more good it can do you. In pineapple's case that means MAKING the egg stick. Think Gillian McKeith espouses theory if that gives a flavour of it?
Yes, I am v v lacking on foxy front at moment. Had horrifying revelation that I dress up way more for meeting friends than I ever do for DH. So tonight, unless some dull rugby thing on, I shall be wearing nice underwear. Poor man already a shell of himself after ov timed shagging so he will prob pale horribly and run away. But still, basic respect for him I am beginning to think.

And here was me thinking Woo was just a shorter version of the cocktail. I really do think about booze far too much. Ok I am a bit sceptical about the hippy stuff, but i buy the "fresh is better" theory. I'm just not sure if I'm ready to believe that what you eat or drink will make a difference because then I really would have to give up wine

No JSing last night. OH was snoring about 5 minutes after getting into bed.

Oh and on the underwear front, it's all irrelevant as I get changed into ultra foxy fleecy pjs hours before bed, so OH never sees them anyway .

Morning Ladies ... good to see the thread high up on the list :)

I'm a woo believer I'm afraid and I'm also not a true JSer - I have the green pee tablets! But I do find I have much more energy when I take them regularly. Without my Vit B complex, I'm lazing on the sofa and can't move. With them, I can even get out and go for a long walk after a day at work, they truly are wonderful! Of course the fact that they're supposed to help with progesterone levels is a bonus But I do wonder if they worked too well and lengthened my luteal phase to 18 days instead of the usual 13 average?

ERTD is still hanging about ... eventually getting heavier, but not like previous cycles, which was a blessing really.

I'm trying to chill out at the moment ... after OH's bank called us at 8.14am this morning, again! WTF?! He'd gone to work, and I didn't get to the phone in time and called them back to have a go. It's all about his loan. It was sorted out last November, the day before we started to get the calls he had popped into the local branch to sort something else out, and they said his payments were up to date, and while he was there he updated his contact details which included giving them our home phone number (numpty). The Indian call centre staff don't seem to have the updated details of the account - that his loan is up to date, and they've been calling at just gone 8am every sat morning since, and at least twice every other day. They don't seem to understand that the local branch say there's no problem, just stick to their script. So when they called again this morning I was in fighting mode. Even DD2 hid in her room as I stormed down the hallway with the phone ranting about giving them an earbashing. What kind of customer relations do they hope to foster by their unsocial calling times and harassment? I googled and found out they have a reputation for this sort of harassament. So, OH is getting his wages moved to another bank where he has a dormant account, and will just transfer the loan money over and when it's paid off he will close it down. In the meantime I'll draft a letter to them for him to send them, informing them that due to their harassment, he wishes only to be contacted by letter, and deal only with his local branch, otherwise we'll be reporting them to the banking ombudsman. I mean, phone calls at 8.14am on a Saturday morning?! Come the fuck on!

Sorry for the rant, but I'm fuming!! Not been this riled for a long time.

crow I'm sorry ERTD properly turned up, I had my fingers crossed for you

Banks can be such a pain, can't they? Admittedly I'm biased as I work for it, but my bank has always said no to overseas call centres, and that's a huge plus for me. So much so, I banked with them even before I worked for them . they are not perfect, none of them are, but they don't call me very often which is quite a plus . Vote with your feet, and be sure to tell them why.

Been attacking our back garden which had got a bit jungle-like. what glamorous fun. More foxy welly/fleece attire for OH to swoon over

I hate banks Nelly I long to be able to just stash our money under a mattress and deal in cash only. Saying that, I've not had the hassle with my bank that OH has with his, the charges for going overdrawn are nothing like his. I'm tempted to advise him to stop even paying the loan once his wages go to another bank, and let a debt collection agency deal with it. At least they have English call centres and more likely to come to better repayment deal than the bank, who refuse to budge. Our credit history is crap anyway, so no loss there

Lucky you!! I miss having a garden to mess about in. I was always in the garden doing stuff to it when I had one. I'm currently sitting here in my jogging bottoms and big baggy fleece top, all slobby ... because I'm sooo tired and lethargic. OH due home from work any minute, I'm sure he'll be overwhelmed with disgust lust.

My sister has just text to say she's had her baby daughter, early, due to another bleed (didn't know she'd had any) . Baby is in special care to monitor her breathing. I feel indifferent ... How bad is that? No excitement at all. I'm a bad person

crow c'mere and have an enormous big hug and boo hiss to the disapproving MNetters. You are really feeling down just now, aren't you? You are NOT a bad person, sometimes it's just hard to feel connected to things that you think you should be. Crikey by all accounts lots of new mums take ages to feel anything for their own babies, let alone aunts who haven't even met them. And I'm not sure how early it was, but sometimes it's a subconscious thing - if the baby sadly might not survive, it's instinct not to feel to attached I think? I really hope the baby is ok; but right now it's still a stranger to you, there's nothing that says you have to love it immediately, just because it's family. Have another hug

(sorry for saying "it". I can't remember if you said boy or girl and am on phone so can't check).

And as for the garden - well I wish you lived nearer as you'd be welcome any time! I love the fact we live where we do, but with both of us working full time and having mental hobbies, the weeds become quite a problem.
We've actually just discussed that we should see if we could find someone retired or something that doesn't have a garden but would like to tame ours a bit.

thanks for the hug Nelly, getting them from OH too, he guessed straight away why I'm very subdued here. She had a girl, very much longed for after 3 boys and having given up on any more children. So a double surprise. She was only a month early, not even that (due early Sept). I still haven't replied to my other sister after she offered me scan pics of HER baby. I feel as though if I ignore it, it's not happening. I don't feel the urge to see either baby. Im aware that makes me sound like I'm jealous, and yes, of course I am. I want to be having a baby, and it bloody hurts that they are. Can't help your feelings at times, can we? I'm only human not everyone (if anyone) is all lovely, fluffy and full of light

I'd certainly come and do your garden if I was closer! We're thinking about getting an allotment in the meantime. Hopefully we'll get a house with a garden one day :)

Ugh, phone calls early in morning, hateful. My DH used to work horrendous hours-16 hour days at his stressful job and then Halifax or some dodgy tax avoidance accountants would ring to hassle him about managing his money. Early on Saturday. It was regular and in the end I had to pretend to be him and tell them to sod off. Quite effeminate sounding grumpy high earner they must have concluded. We now have our landline linked to a flat we moved out of four years ago and three house moves ago. So when the current tenants order pizza we get the buzz through call. Don't even know where to start with who I'd call at BT to sort it out.
crow think is called for. And prob a big cuddle from your man and alot of chocolate
DH grumpy because of rugby. I'm happy, papers, popcorn and vietnamese takeaway.

Well I've had a busy day in the garden, then round to a friends house warming BBQ for a bit. Now sitting in the cinema waiting for planet of the apes to start. Busy, huh and you couldn't do that with a baby

Where are the other viroids?

Hello viroids? Is everyone ok? It's so quiet here just now. It's because you are all partying and shagging, isn't it?

All fine here, so busy that I have literally lost count of where I am in my cycle! 5DPO if I was to guess.

bambam, babylann and SES have been very quiet particularly - all ok?

Hello everyone!

Sorry I haven't been around for ages. It's been mad with both DP and DS at home, but DS is back to school today, and DP has gone for some messages to the shops - lovely man! Actually, can I just say that it totally pisses me off that everyone thinks you must be delighted when the kids go back, as then they "won't be under your feet", or "you can get some peace". Aaaarrrggh!! I actually like having DS at home, and if one more person says that to me I will punch them!!

Anyway, rant over! I have been lurking, and I am so sorry that the thread has been quite down recently. I really feel for you crow. It's awful when your body plays tricks on you. As for your new niece, I hope you can bond a bit with her, but to be honest, I have 2 nephews who I really don't like much, and although I feel bad about it sometimes, I just don't think it's automatic that you will love the people you are related to, if that makes sense.

I am now almost 15wks, and there is definitely a bean in there, as I had my 12 wk scan. Everything is going okay, although I still feel sick off and on, and I seem to be expanding at an alarming rate! DS is delighted, and couldn't wait to tell all his school pals today.

Sorry again that I haven't been around, but I am still hanging about, and definitely still rooting for you all.

Yay! Hi bam .

are relieved. I don't know anyone that has eaten their children, obviously

Argh! I just wrote a huge post and my stupid friggin comp deleted it

Crow I'm sorry you're having a shit time. When my nephew was born I stood in the corner of the hospital room quite obviously in a foul mood with mmy arms crossed, then broke down into tears when we left the hospital (in the middle of the street - I'd had a mc a few months previous)

I was at a family do on sat and in walks my cousin with her young son and obviously heavily pg with her second, and then her sister walked in with her newborn, then my nana (the birthday girl) walked in and ignored everyone else, despite it being a surprise party, and went straight to look at the new baby made me feel really unspecial if you see what I mean. I feel like I've got nothing going for me at the moment Then mam asked, in a very loud voice, from the other side of the table, if I wanted to see the baby, to which I replied 'not really' as I don;t get on with that side of the family, so mam then replied, in a very sarcastic voice 'well do you mind if I do?' and I was really embarrassed cos everyone was looking at me as if wondering why I would have a problem with mam going to see the baby. I was effing furious with her!! I was really upset aswell because they're in their forties and I felt really inadequate. I have no problem with people in their 40s having kids, but they say it's really hard at that age yet here they are with their kids, and here's me and DH not managing it over 15 years younger than them, what do they have that we don't

It's lovely that you were worried about me nelly! Thank you. I am really fine though, but knackered all the time. I have been put under an obstetrician this time round, because of my thyroid, and they have upped my meds, which has made me a bit less tired, but still exhausted. Thankfully DS isn't getting any homework until next week, just to let them ease back into the term! I really missed him today. He isn't super-good or anything, I just love his company. He's so chatty and funny and full of life, and a real sweetie. I love him to bits and just hope that number 2 will be as lovely, although I'm sure s/he will be![over-proud mummy emoticon]

Josie when my nephew was born, I hadn't long had a suspected early miscarriage. I had to spend Christmas with the family and the new tiny baby, and I just couldn't feel happy, even though I had my DS by then, and I felt so bad about it. I don't think there's anything wrong with feeling that way, but I think it's important to have someone non-judgemental to talk to about it, so it doesn't start to fester and get you down, which is where this thread is fantastic. I am thinking of you. You've had a really tough time, and I hope things brighten up for you soon.

Thanks Bam this thread has been a godsend for me recently, and I'm afraid it might have to be again. I'm pretty sure I'm still suffering from depression, and seem to be having good days and bad days, but never as good as before all of this rubbish happened. Even DH said last night that I used to be bubbly but I haven't been for a long time. My job is stressing me out as I'm so anxious all the time and it's very bitchy. With me being the new girl everyone is trying to get me on board and I don't feel strong enough to tell them all to back off for fear of the senior trying to bully me cos she does that to everyone apparently (as if I haven't had enough of that already!) Argh!! (pulling hair out emoticon) I had a really really low day yesterday and feel like I should apologise to the people at the yard cos I just couldn't make the effort with them yesterday and they were all asking if I was tired cos I wasn't myself. I just said yes. I'm scared I'm not going to get back that bubbly side of my personality while I'm working, and it's not just this office, I'm scared if I go somewhere else it'll be the same! On the plus side, I have been asked to make a cake for my friend's grandparents' golden wedding anniversary in december and my friend's sisters' joint 30th birthday party so there's 2 small paychecks coming in, but I know I must be pretty depressed at the moment as I can't really get excited about it

God that was a corker of a post, sorry!

Bam hope you're getting plenty of rest and enjoy the time with your DS

Just wanted to say hi and see how you are all getting on?

Bambam, I am sure we should have had loads of details from you by now

Hi baby2b you must be very excited by now . We are trying our best to swell the grad numbers, honest! I even had sex last night, just for fun, after consuming too much !

On phone Josie so will try to post more later, but just wanted to offer hugs and . maybe a trip to the doctor is in need? In the meantime, there is some mileage to be had in Acting up to how you wnt to feel (I'm sure there is a phrase I'm grappling for!). So watch some funny tv, throw on some loud music and dance about, hum happy tunes whilst at the yard. It's not a solution, of course, but might give you a bit of a lift. And when at work remember - it's just a job, they are only people, and (I hope this doesn't sound harsh!) your colleagues are probably thinking about you a lot less than you think they are. . I've learned that for the most part, people are quite self absorbed, so they are more likely thinking about themselves..

Will be back later when I've rescued my soggy horses from their field.

Thanks Nelly I'm feeling fine today, very confusing Think a trip to the doc is definitely in order, I need help figuring myself out. In the meantime I'm going to find some task to absorb myself in as have some fun

Just wrote massive post and lost it

Sorry you are having a rubbish time Josie. I hope things get better for you soon.

Very impressed with jsing effort Nelly and jealous of the wine . Actually jealous of the jsing too. Having jsing marathons (every two days for a month) seems like a distant memory

Haha baby2b, I don't think we've done every 2 days for a month, ever! Perhaps this is where I'm going wrong?

Glad you feel better Josie, hope it continues .

How are things now bam with DS properly back to school?

Hopefully Crow, Babylann, caramel, SES and everyone else are doing well too.

TGIF

Afternoon all

Very tired Josie today - I was up at the yard till after 1 keeping one of the girls company as her horse came in with a suspected fractured leg yesterday so she spent the night there. The vet gave him painkillers yesterday but they had no effect and he's the same this morning so they're x raying it and I haven't had any news yet fingers crossed it's nothing serious.

I'm going back tonight and am doing a 6-9.30pm shift while his owner is at work, cue even more tired Josie!

Hope everyone is ok, it's been really quiet on here recently

Oh Josie that's awful. It's bringing back awful memories for me, too. I hope it's not as serious as that . Fingers crossed. Xx