JSing viroids, on your marks, get set, shag!

[JosieSmith1]

The (updated)(again)(again)(again) 'rules' from our Just Shagging Originator for the Viroids:

Maintain a relaxed attitude at all times - drink if you want too, especially on your birthday (or when you've had bad news). Thread precedent dictates if you drink to excess you will get a BFP (but not recommended). (But it does work).

Covet thy husband and enjoy every minute. Shag at every opportunity - shag-capes and awesome superpowers optional.

Keep acronym-age to a minimum! EWCM is now to be referred to as 'pant snot'. Try not to get sucked in by Fertility Friend (at least for a while), but knowing where you are in your cycle and furkling for pant snot is most definitely allowed.
OV is ovulation - I'm allowed to forget what date I've OVd, feel free to join me on that one!

Bunting is to be put out for any small victory, thread-parties are held regularly and hugs are always welcome!

Once you have your BFP, feel free to hang around and share your wisdom and virtual cocktails with the JSers.

Keep us up to date with gossip!

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Most of these rules are well and truly broken!! But we try to chill - honest

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Part 1 Graduates:
Tanmu82 - BFP
PrivetDancer - BFP
OnlyWantsOne - BFP
Frankenfanny ? BFP
Notso - BFP
knittakid - BFP
loopeylu - BFP
PinkFondantFancy - BFP
Grannyapple ? BFP
Fuzzywood - BFP
canoe - BFP
janedoe - BFP
StarflowerGirl - BFP

Part 2 Graduates:
ihaveaplan - BFP
lovemylulu - BFP
shitforbrains - BFP
gormers - BFP

Part 3 Graduates
Bonkerz - BFP
Kitten - BFP
Cowboylover - BFP
takingtheplunge ? BFP

Part 4 Graduates:
NoMoreChocBiscuits - BFP
Milanomum - BFP
Cremegg - BFP
BrassicaBabe - BFP
Dynababy - BFP

Part 5 Graduates:
TakeThatLady - BFP
Vallinna - BFP
SingingMog - BFP
aDarkStarWithStrangeWays - BFP
Eskarina - BFP

Part 6 Graduate
Reality - BFP

Part 7 Graduates:
Katiepie - BFP
CaramelGirl - BFP
Nickelbabe - BFP
Panpie - BFP
Brightcopperkettles - BFP

Harbingers??? I think that's iPhone speak for I didn't know .

Haha @ harbingers!!!

It's one for chesty coughs, one containing guafasine or something like that, not got the bottle to hand. Asda and Tesco both it sell among their cough and cold stuff, usually cherry flavoured. Just two 5 ml spoonfuls three times a day. Or just a swig of it a couple of times a day if you're like me just until you've ovulated. I'm swimming in CM now!

Oh and in other news, I have an interview/assessment day for a new job ... eeeek!!

Ooh exciting! Is this the one where your oh works? Good luck

Good luck Crow, let us know how it goes. I've applied for a couple of new jobs so I've got my fingers crossed for both of us

My mam just phoned to ask if I want her to come round tomorrow when my team manager is there, I'm not sure what to do I know she'll stick up for me, but I don't want to blindside my manager, especially if she's just coming to give me a card or something

Hmm tricky, but I'd be inclined not to have your Mum there TBH? I think you are right, having family there might be seen as a bit much, plus she will get cross when her little girl is seen as anything less than perfect . By which I mean of course that you ARE perfect but your team manager might just not have realised yet .

Just found out a colleague is 18 weeks. I've clearly been living in a bubble. But guess what, "it was a surprise". "she wasn't even trying ". Ok she's nice and all, but just fuck the fuck off with your fecundity .

And breathe.....

Oh Nelly, so sorry. Life's a bitch I'm afraid that before I read your post I had agreed to mam coming over purely because my manager tends not to see my point of view and it's a bit of moral support and she will say the things I'm scared to say or forget to say. Anyway, I've written everything down (including a separate bit on how I think I'm being bullied) so I think I'm pretty damn well prepared. Let's kick some manager butt

Oh never mind about your Mum, it'll be fine, you can just maybe get her to say she'd just dropped in for coffee, but that you'd asked her to stay. You could always ask your manager if she minds, and I think given she is in your house she's unlikely to disagree, but at least you look like you are being fair!

Meant to say, good luck with the job applications, are they at the same place, or somewhere different? I've actually applied for a job too but it's basically in the same team doing the same job, with some differences and a little bit more responsibility. Not bothered especially if I get it or not, except that the majority of my job is actually moving to a different team. So at some point I either need a new job or will be "displaced"; which means they will have to find me something or I'll be made redundant. It's not imminent though and I'm not entirely concerned, as I should find another job easily enough, so will cross that bridge when I come to it.

They're different places Nelly, admin like I do now but for different companies. Spent ages writing a cv yesterday but don't know if it's any good I might say to my team manager that I'd consider moving offices but only if I can go to one of my choice - don't want to end up miles away. TBH I don't see any other solution, I can't work with the two people in the office so what can I do

Good luck with your job application too

I just had to share what I had for my pudding tonight. Bit of a treat.

A Gu Pudding.

I do hope there are enough JSers from way back who understand the significance of that. .

Good luck tomorrow josie.

Hi everyone.

Funny story actually. I was 10 days overdue, and due to the nature of my periods being a bit scattered all over the place, I got DP to drive us to the pound shop and buy a few cheapy tests. Came home, sat on the toilet, peed on my test, looked down and was quite surprised by what I found. It looked really weird! The panel was a pinkish colour and the tip was too. "Ink must have leaked," I thought, a bit frustrated. Wiped myself and noticed I was bleeding. Pants were completely clean - meaning I literally started my period whilst taking a pregnancy test. Couldn't stop laughing at the coincidence.

I'm glad your cat is back, Nelly.

And I'm so sorry to hear about your work problems Josie. Stay strong and good luck sorting it out.

How did the interview go, crow.

How's it going Bam? Hope you're doing okay with your quitting smoking.

I'm feeling a little better now. I've finally got my first counselling appointment booked in a couple of weeks time, but am making a little bit of progress on my own. Analysing what brought me to this point and realising a few things. I'm starting to really question a lot of my behaviour in the past year. I've been so stressed out with DD, dreading our time alone together - I love her but I really resent not having any time for myself anymore - and on a few occasions even thinking about leaving, and trying to get DP to agree it'd be a good idea if I move away to university for the week and only come back at weekends (which he lovingly agreed to until I realised how terrible it was that I was even thinking those things). And yet, despite how miserable being a mum has made me, I've been desperately broody for another baby, in fact I'm obsessed with babies and all things related to birth, I even toyed with the idea of becoming a midwife and called during clearing to try and get a place on a course last year (I cry if I throw up and have to run away screaming if someone I love does, and washing the dishes makes me gag, so I don't know how I thought I could break people's waters and mess around with placenta). I'm pretty sure I've got PND, or PTSD, I knew I'd had a "little bit" of PND (as stupid as that sounds!) at the start but I figured it was just because of the traumatic birth and longer-than-expected hospital stay, and I'd convinced myself I was better when actually I've been spiralling further and further into depression and frankly insanity.

So I guess I even think I'm only on this thread because I've gone a bit loopy. Why would someone who had such a horrible pregnancy and childbirth, got really ill on top of it and then didn't even "enjoy" the resulting baby and following year in the slightest want to repeat that all over again? I think I may have subconsciously convinced myself if I have another baby, I can make up for all the guilt I feel for being such a useless mum the first time round and appreciate it this time. I've never neglected her, don't get me wrong, but perhaps my emotional availability hasn't always been there, and she's young so I hope she hasn't picked up on it, but she might have done.

Things have been really unusual and dark, my memory is so patchy and the memories I do have... they've got this "atmosphere" about them, like there's doom attached to everything I've done.

Anyway, I'm off on holiday for a week today. Just a little family thing. :) Maybe that'll help a bit.

Babylann how brave of you to share that with us. I'm glad you're starting to figure things out and are starting counselling, fingers crossed it will help you come on leaps and bounds, and should definitely help with PND. I know what you mean by saying you have a little bit of PND Hopefully once you start sorting yourself out (I don't mean that how it sounds!) you can start to enjoy time with DD again

Nelly I always laugh at the Gu adverts on tv PIAGu

Gosh the thread is so quiet these days. Ive been very busy at work and also hardly home this weekend. How is everyone? Babylann have you had the counselling, and Josie how did Friday go?

And in TTC news (this is the JS thread, but I suppose once in a while we should talk about it ), well, there is no news. 9DPO and no symptoms. Though we did have sex last night, so at least I'm still keeping up the JSing motto. And OH finally made it to the lab with his SA, but he seemed far too embarrassed to ask any questions, so no idea when /how we get the results.

I hope everyone else is well and still shagging

Hi Nelly!

Am without my PC for the foreseeable future, having to rely on my phone or OH's laptop (when I can him off it) so sorry for not posting much.

Job assessment and interview is indeed at same place as OH - it's a week tomorrow. HR lady seems keen, she's given OH hints as to which aptitude tests to look at online and has put me in her assessment group.

In JSing news, think we did too much, too soon, as we tired ourselves out! Did a fair bit last week, which would have been fine, had I ovulated 'on time', but it's late again and I, Erm, 'sacrificed' his swimmers a couple of nights ago I may have ovulated yesterday, going by this morning's temp leap. But we JSd this evening anyway, just for the Hell of it.

Been thinking today if TTC is the sensible thing to be doing, with a new job. We're skint, and this job would mean we' d be quite a bit better off, able to pay off stuff, get a car, go on holidays and do up our home. If we have a baby, we'd struggle again. But when I think of giving up with TTC, I feel sad and tearful. Bum.

Anyway, how is everyone else?

Oh yes I forgot about the PC crisis, I hate posting on my phone, my posts always come across as a bit short and (I worry, anyway) rude, as I get fed up and write in an abbreviated form. General apology for any such posts.

Good luck with the interview! It sounds positive at least. I know what you mean about the timing, but if it was me I'd not want to give up TTC - given my age, I don't want to miss a month. But it can be hard to know what to do for the best sometimes .

at the sacrificed swimmers though. Definitely the great thing about having the JS attitude is that it does help keep sex from becoming a chore. I get a little sad when I read other threads where people are depressed about the fact they "have" to have sex. That said, I can totally understand how it gets to that point.

Had a rubbish day at work, and did a 14 hour day. Grrr. Should probably get to bed soon .

to everyone else.

Hullo viroids and sorry for absence- also reduced to iPhone and easier to read than to post. Am up at my parents' after a few other weekends of being houseguests around and about. So not much privacy to either ttc or chat online re ttc. But have been having a good time throwing out youthful wardrobe errors and teeny tiny skinny teenage clothes. Plus odd junk. Reckon am about a third through it. Tons more to go and this is only the junk I've left at my parents', not even started at our house.
All good, if not super positive here. Due on on Friday, no symptoms to spot at all. Had regular swi but then one duty shag on Weds as instructed by acupuncturist and was actually quite joyless, think we both felt a bit dirty and hoping that's not a conception one. Ttc should def be more fun than work I still think.
Am enjoying acupuncture. Lady is also a trained midwife- thi' chosen mostly on criteria that she was nearby to house and oriental. I am v psychosomatic and thought would believe it more if she looked the part. She tried to give me herbs but they taste vile and I have fears of malformations so have discontinued.
Hope that all is well with rest of you. Josie any progress with job? nelly I hope life a bit less stressful recently, tho' sounds like work's been busy. Thanks for pretty much single handedly keeping thread going. crow hope that wibbles resolve. So tough to have to decide if should keep fighting. I want it instant and easy.
Big viroid love to you all

Oh and baby hope that you are enjoying your holiday and maybe have some space to think and breathe. It sounds tough at the moment. Thinking of you- have also done the bleed onto a per stick trick. Was a cb digital too, so was gutted by waste!!!

Oh caramel I'm due on saturday so we can non symptom spot together. I have cravings - for wine -. I am tired, which has nothing to do with the long hours at work. And I've had a funny pain in my knee which I am admittedly struggling to class as a symptom even in my mental world . So - basically not hopeful at all. I have been having mild abdominal pains on and off since OV (sometimes more like OV, sometimes more period-y) but I really don't think it means anything.

I'm glad the acupuncture is going well, it's not something I've considered up to now. Do you find it relaxing when you are there? I know what you mean about the duty shag though, that's never a great feeling is it? OH came home from a night out the other week, pissed, and wanted a shag. I normally say no if he's very drunk and I'm not, as it just seems a bit, um, seedy. But it was Shag Week, so we did it. The sex was fine actually, but I thought exactly the same as you - that I didn't want that to be the shag that makes our baby! However, we had sex several times that week, so I'll assume it was one of the rather more sober romantic ones instead .

Instant and easy, hmm? I think I'm a year too far down the line for that!

Yes, instant and easy no longer on my radar either, poo. Hoping to be pg by time baby would have been due should I have conceived instantly. Was thinking I'd have a late Sept baby. But I won't unless it takes that full year. Tick toco days my click, pah.
Returning to non existent symptoms, I am feeling rather hot. Nothing to do with summer I feel but rather a manifestation of mini caramel, no?
I didn't bother bringing pee sticks with me as thought in v unlikely case ertd doesn't arrive on Friday then I'll do it Saturday. So am planning on driving back home, three hour journey, with MiL, feeling nsrked with self and pmt ish. Or alternatively stupidly cheery just in case. Poor woman doesn't deserve that.
Acupuncture, quite relaxing. Quite interesting talking about Me I always find, tho' poss less interesting for acupuncturist. She has come up with interesting insights as well I thought, but DH reckons it's all cold reading and Derren Briwn would do better. Hmm. But overall quite stressful insisting DH leave his busy work on time to baby sit whilst I dash out to her last appointment of day. Otherwise it's an extra 20 pounds for baby sitting.
Am off shopping tomorrow. Planning on buying lots of fitted stuff which would be wasted should I fall pg. Look fate!! A chance to catch silly old me out, hmm hmmm.

Hmm, meant to write tick tick goes my clock. Sausage fingers and iPhone are nearly poetry making, no? : tick toco days my click indeed

Haha at interesting talking about Me. That's my favourite subject too . Also I quite liked your typo even if I didn't understand it fully!

11DPO and.... Spotting . That, and the fact I swore loudly and aggressively at stupid fuckwit innocent drivers, gives me some hint that this is yet another Fail. I think 14 cycles now, not a hint of a BFP. I'm way past even being pg when the baby would have been due if conceived immediately. I'm not going to be pg by the time I'm 37. In fact I am now beginning to wonder if it will ever happen. I'm fed up of scare stories about how my eggs are probably cooked by now. Meh fucking meh

And- the in laws are here. I worked a 12 hour day, they said they would cook, got home at 8.30 and haven't eaten yet. So not going to be getting a much needed early night.

God I really do have PMT don't I?

Hi everyone, promise I will catch up with you all soon.

Meeting on friday was rubbish - she showed up with the women I don't get on with so I'm glad Mam was there as she really stuck up for me and put across some points I hadn't mentioned. She got quite upset as she was saying she knows me so well and that I'm a nervous wreck. I that I told the women I don't like that she treats me like a skivvy and I also pulled her about one day when I was really busy and she was on her phone all day. Mam also said I was confident there until she started. Oh and she actually said it was a bone of contention with her that I regularly don't open the blinds in the morning (we discovered that twice equals regular in her book) and I honestly couldn't believe that she was complaining about something so bloody petty and then we discussed how I didn't feel like I could come to her with issues as she gets straight on the defensive (as she was in this meeting) and pointed out that last time I stood up for myself she shouted at me in the tea room. Basically we've decided I'm going to mediation with the pg girl who was complaining about me and I have to come up with a written agreement with the other woman as to how I'm going to be line managed. I'm totally at the end of my tether and seriously close to quitting, which means I would lose my horse and my car, and would probably only just be able to afford my mortgage

On the plus side, I've made and decorated my first cake and my counsellor reckons there's no reason why I can't start my own business so I'm throwing myself into it, and have registered with various agencies looking for admin work.

Phew, sorry that's a mammoth post. P.S. ERTD arrived, not very surprised. Hopefully I can start JSing again soon, seeing as I don;t have to be up early

Oh Josie they categorically should not have turned up at your house, with 2 of them, to have a meeting about this. You should have been officially told what was going to happen and be given the opportunity to have someone with you. I know you had your Mum, but they didn't know that, did they? They were totally out of line.

Don't give up on it all yet. While there are definitely lots of other opportunities out there for you, don't quit on this one if it would mean risking everything. Either it will get better, or you will find something more suited to you. I know (and totally understand) that you are very angry and upset about it all, but at the end of the day, it's just a job. Don't let them make you feel crap, you are more than your job - it doesn't define who you are. Put up with it as long as you need to, but don't give them the satisfaction of wearing you down. Lecture over .

You will come through this. And in the meantime, think of all the shagging fun you can have . Meanwhile, have a Viroid .

Hello to all the other viroids, hope is well with those upduffed and those still enthusiastically shagging :)

Yes, I'm with nelly, put up whilst you sort an alternative out and write it all down in a diary- HR will listen alot more if you can give real dates and examples, rather than general things- like not opening blinds!!!
I am feeling a bit glum about ertd having arrived again. But today is technically first day of my pregnancy, no? Just 14 or so days off conception. bambam - how are you? Still lurking? scan soon, no? Hope lots of nice photos and helpful ultra sounder. Right, MiL has arrived.

I like your thinking. I'm still spotting not yet on cd1, so I think I am on pregnancy day -1 .

I'm ignoring the fact that oh is away all next week. If tomorrow is cd1 he will be back on cd8 - hopefully that's time enough

Hallo Viroids!

Sorry about ERTD arriving Josie, and I agree with Nelly, they should not have turned up together without warning you! They are being so unfair.

I am apparently 7DPO, don't think I stand much of a chance of a BFP unless OH's swimmers hung around for an extra day or two Still having a wobble over finances, but at the same time I've been making a list of possible baby names, d'oh! Only because I hear or see a name I like, but forget it a week later, so now I'm making a note of all the names for my non existent baby. No doubt OH will veto them all He's gone off all the names we'd previously agreed on. If we have a girl, he wants to call her Louise ... noooo!! It's a nice name, but that's it - nice. It's dated, over done and just not a name I'd use. Eloise though, I love, but he won't compromise on that. Can see a few falling outs if I do get pregnant