JSing viroids, on your marks, get set, shag!

[JosieSmith1]

The (updated)(again)(again)(again) 'rules' from our Just Shagging Originator for the Viroids:

Maintain a relaxed attitude at all times - drink if you want too, especially on your birthday (or when you've had bad news). Thread precedent dictates if you drink to excess you will get a BFP (but not recommended). (But it does work).

Covet thy husband and enjoy every minute. Shag at every opportunity - shag-capes and awesome superpowers optional.

Keep acronym-age to a minimum! EWCM is now to be referred to as 'pant snot'. Try not to get sucked in by Fertility Friend (at least for a while), but knowing where you are in your cycle and furkling for pant snot is most definitely allowed.
OV is ovulation - I'm allowed to forget what date I've OVd, feel free to join me on that one!

Bunting is to be put out for any small victory, thread-parties are held regularly and hugs are always welcome!

Once you have your BFP, feel free to hang around and share your wisdom and virtual cocktails with the JSers.

Keep us up to date with gossip!

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Most of these rules are well and truly broken!! But we try to chill - honest

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Part 1 Graduates:
Tanmu82 - BFP
PrivetDancer - BFP
OnlyWantsOne - BFP
Frankenfanny ? BFP
Notso - BFP
knittakid - BFP
loopeylu - BFP
PinkFondantFancy - BFP
Grannyapple ? BFP
Fuzzywood - BFP
canoe - BFP
janedoe - BFP
StarflowerGirl - BFP

Part 2 Graduates:
ihaveaplan - BFP
lovemylulu - BFP
shitforbrains - BFP
gormers - BFP

Part 3 Graduates
Bonkerz - BFP
Kitten - BFP
Cowboylover - BFP
takingtheplunge ? BFP

Part 4 Graduates:
NoMoreChocBiscuits - BFP
Milanomum - BFP
Cremegg - BFP
BrassicaBabe - BFP
Dynababy - BFP

Part 5 Graduates:
TakeThatLady - BFP
Vallinna - BFP
SingingMog - BFP
aDarkStarWithStrangeWays - BFP
Eskarina - BFP

Part 6 Graduate
Reality - BFP

Part 7 Graduates:
Katiepie - BFP
CaramelGirl - BFP
Nickelbabe - BFP
Panpie - BFP
Brightcopperkettles - BFP

Still got my fingers crossed for you Nelly, thanks for the heads up re: docs, will ring them in the morning and see what they want to do, that'll be day three so hopefully can fit me in on Thursday. I've bought that Emma Cannon book, which isn't making much sense so far, and some ov test strips thngys as my last cycle was messed up so don't really know where I stand this cycle

I'm having a s*t week already. Awful boss lady has to go to head office tomorrow to be celebrated for her excellent appraisal I don't understand this, as I have been there 6 years and worked my arse off the whole time, basically running the office single handedly, and I get f*k all I stormed out at 5pm, then got cut up by another driver and actually beeped my horn for the first time in my life! It felt good so I beeped at him again I'm learning to express my emotions

Sorry I've not posted for a week or so. I was really just trying to pull myself together and move on. Still getting BFPs though and ERPC was 3rd June. EPU have finally agreed to scan me again tomorrow so will wait and see what that brings...

Josie - sorry for rubbish couple of days. Hope the counsellor sessions help and personally, I say well done for expressing your emotions via the horn!

Hello Nelly, Caramel, Bam, Crow and anyone else I've missed!

Thanks Josie, though I fear I too am heading for a bit of a fall :(. Still no symptoms either way, I just feel like I've had so many Fails, why should this month be any different? . That's such a pain about your colleague, I suggest you make a voodoo doll image of her and poke her in the eye with pee-sticks . And welcome the world of road rage! You should hear the names I call other drivers - I like to think of it as a victimless crime, as they don't know what I just called them . But I feel much better afterwards.

SES what a nightmare about the BFP. I can only begin to imagine how hard it must be to keep seeing the line, knowing it isn't true :(. Have a hug and some . I hope you get some answers tomorrow.

Dee are you out there? I know we are ignoring a certain line on a stick, but everything ok with you?

Nelly I usually shout in the safety of my own car, it's very rare anyone else actually realises I'm mad, but it was quite therapeutic to share with a stranger that I was mad Hope you get symptoms one way or another

I'm not good at sharing emotions so from now on when I'm feeling an emotion I'm just going to say it out loud, then everyone knows what I'm feeling, and why (if I know myself). Even if I just say it to myself it's a step forward.

God you must all think I'm mad (wonders whether I was mad before TTC )

Mad, you say? I was in the shower this morning squeezing my boobs and started wondering about my blood test results which I'm due to hear about on Friday. As I do, I day-mared (as in it was a nightmare but I was awake!) that the doc told me that I have absolutely no reproductive organs. I then told him he was wrong, as I have periods, to which he said it was impossible, so I realised I had imagined them for 20 years and was actually in a weird Shutter Island scenario where my life wasn't actually real and I was in fact completely mad. And then I got out of the shower and went to work. I hope my life is real, because I have dreamt up quite a dull one otherwise

Still no symptoms. Am on gusset-watch. On and off pains since about 5DPO.

Where are you all?

I am 10DPO and no sign of anything. ERTD due tomorrow per iPhone, but due Sun/Mon per me. No spotting which I normally get 3 or even 4 days before. No tummy aches. I've only called someone a c**t once this week ( it's my usual sign ERTD is on it's way). But no sore boobs, metal mouth, unexpected tears. I'm still craving wine and coffee, can't smell what the neighbours are having for dinner, or felt the need to throw up my own. So place your bets. Red or Preg?

I'm here! Not had time to read back properly ... am knackered and weepy OH has gone camping with his friends today and I'm on my own until Sunday. It's the longest we've been apart since I moved back to the area to be with him, and I'm missing him loads. He's missing me too, going by the amount of calls and texts I'd had My turn to leave him alone on Monday, when I go off to Wales to stay with my best friend until Friday. My holiday started today at 6pm, and I've already had a beer and it's gone straight to my head and made me all emotional.

Still no idea what's happening with my body - sodding thing! It's CD35 for me. Going by my temps, I may have Ovd on CD26, or on CD29 ... there's no real big surge in temp for either of those days though. Fertile CM at CD20-22, which would fit in nicely with our JS timing. No pregnancy signs at all. Slightly heavy boobs and burny nipples, but that could be due to ERTD approaching, have had some cramps too.

OH still fully on board for TTC! We even had sex twice on Monday! We both had the day off work, so went for a walk to the bay we can see from our flat ... is a fair walk along fields and across the cliffs. Was sooo very hot though. Anyway, we'd JSd before getting up that morning, then went for our walk. I had to stop and hide in the shade a couple of times as I do not cope well with the heat. By the time we got home, my fingers had swelled to sausage proportions and I was sweltering, so I stripped off on my way from the front door to the lounge, then flung myself on the sofa in an exhausted heap. OH joined me and after a few mins we were JSing again. Then we had a nap, ha!

Am thinking of going to bed with a mug of Horlicks in a bit, taking OH's laptop so I can browse the net for a while longer before crashing out ... after I've rescued my teddy bear from DD2's bed

crow!! what a great bit of Just Shagging that was . Twice in one day!! . And you just made me go Awwwww at you and your OH missing each other :) I'm also very jealous of your week off, that sounds lush!

So... CD35. Any chance you feel the need to PIAR??

I'm now sitting here with the odd twinge in my belly. Mostly similar to one-sided OV pains, but who knows. Grrrr indeed.

Twice in one month was good going for us while OH had the jitters

Am now sitting up in bed with the laptop and my teddy bear next to me, cat is refusing to join me ... maybe because I laughed at her when she fell off the back of the sofa just now. Grrrrr this laptop is so slow ... can see me getting the rage with it!

Nah, no PIAR/POAS or PIAJ yet ... ERTD may not be due yet, and I'm still a couple of days shy of my other long cycle. Plus I don't feel pregnant at all

You and me both then. Sounds like we are both as confused as each other!

My cats drive me nuts like that! Mine has this rage-making habit of jumping on the bed and curling up with his head on my leg, a mere 5 minutes before my alarm goes off. And then huffs when I finally get up, then gives me a filthy look when I open the curtains. Why doesn't he just sleep on the bed when I want him too?? Fickle bugger :)

Our cat (well, OH's really) will often sleep at the bottom of the bed, but I try to stop her alot of the time, as she then wants to leave the room in the middle of the night, and it's me who has to open the bedroom door for her, as OH sleeps through her jumping all over the place.

I think I'd best get some sleep, am dozing off as I type ... fingers crossed we both get some idea of what is going on very soon!

Pants for you both Nelly and Crow for having no symptoms. Hope you get answers soon

Well, you will all be pleased to know that I ended up in a slanging match with my boss this morning. She got her comeuppance she pulled me and tried to put me on the spot infront of the other admin and I apparently disrespected her by standing up for myself so she angrily told me she wanted a word, stormed into the tea room and laid into me so I gave her back as good as I got. I told her she treates me like a child and takes advantage of me. I kept totally calm while she lost her temper and swore, waved her arms around etc, think me staying calm wound her up more Eventually we got to the end, and agreed to leave it there, but then as we were leaving the room she said something else (can't remember what, obviously wasn't important , in front of plenty of other people, so I defended myself again, and she turned around, in the middle of the office, got right in my face and said something else disrespectful, so I shouted at her in front of everyone and basically said 'oh so you're not disrespecting me!' so she stormed back into the tea room (yawn) and I didn't even give her a chance to open her big gob, I told her I didn't appreciate her getting in my face and shouting at me in front of everyone, so she said she didn't shout (cos that's ok ) and I told her that regardless of whether she was shouting at me, she was in my face, in front of everyone, and that it wasn't acceptable, so she apologised. At some point she said that she was my boss, to which I replied 'being my boss doesn't give you the right to disrespect me'. She said I was childish so I told her that pulling me into the tea room and shouting at me was really mature! Stupid cowbag!

Whooooop whoooop, go me!! I think this work on building up my self esteem is working! There was no way I was taking that today, and definitely not in front of other people. Hopefully she knows now I'm taking no more s**t from her, but to be honest I don't think she really listened to what I was saying. Anyway, it's come to a head now, and if her way of managing issues is to shout at someone, she's not a great manager, but we all knew that all along didn't we

Ooh josie the new you sounds well 'ard??! . I'm pleased you feel more confident. Hopefully your ovaries will notice, and start to behave now!

Still no real signs here except for what I could consider mild cramps. Not enough to say I'm out yet, but a dose of realism none the less. In-laws staying so not sure I want to PIAR when they are here. Might do it Sunday if no sign. But there will be, no doubt, now that I've tempted fate

In better news, called in for blood test results today. Just spoke to receptionist but the day 21 "confirmed ovulation". The day 4 showed I was immune to rubella and she said one hormone (don't know which) was slightly elevated but not expected to cause issues. OH going to try to do his JIAJ next week. I still need to do my swab ,that's to rule out STD/infection I think? Anyway once we've done that we go back to doc together to discuss next steps.

It's all so romantic

Hey Josie go you!! I bet you feel heaps better for that!!

No signs of anything here either. Just the same very mild ERTD type cramps, hmmmph!

Got around to applying for a job at the same place as OH, not a perfect job, but at least it's full time, which is hard to get around these parts. He's phoned me lots today, his mates must get pissed off with it! He got a bit put out by them because of their banter last night apparently - he said it was funny at first, sort of locker room humour, but soon got very tiring. So he had a word with them and they've now stopped and have more varied and interesing conversation :)

DD2 has just got back from her residential school trip, so going to call her in a bit to see how it went. DD1 is going to Rome on Monday with her AS level class, as part of her Classics A level, lucky moo! Still looking forward to going to Wales on Monday, going to be fab to relax and go for lovely walks.

Even though I'm missing OH loads, I am rather enjoying my own time, is that bad? I'm watching crap TV, lounging about in my slobbies and eating what I want ... currently got some mediterranean veg roasting in chopped tomatoes, to go with my roast pork with stuffing - yum!!!

Not bad at all Crow. I love it when OH is away, and always eat cauliflower cheese cos he hates it! I put clean sheets on the bed the second he's out the door and sleep star pattern

Good luck with the job, exciting if you get it (full time maternity pay ).

Weird that our symptoms, or lack of, are almost exactly the same.

I've realised I type a bit short- hand style when I'm on my phone, so sorry if my posts seem a bit confusing sometimes! I often forget key parts cos using the touchscreen drives me nuts!

I've yet to find anything OH won't eat - if there is, it's something I'm not keen on either so it's not an issue. He can eat and eat, but still stays slim - he's short, but has an athletic build. He's getting a bit of a belly on him now (not flabby though) I think it's down to my cooking I thought I'd not be able to sleep last night without OH being there, but I was so shattered I fell asleep as soon as my head hit the pillow, could go the same way tonight.

Been getting more ERTD style cramps, so think it's on the way soon, bugger. Hopefully next cycle will make more sense.

I find using my phone to type on here a pain too, having to keep scrolling up to check previous posts and it takes so long.

Oh and I see from stalking the grad's thread that COAAF has had her baby early hours of this morning, a little girl! So happy for her, but sooo want one myself!

Oh fantastic news for coaaf, I checked only a couple of hours ago and no news at that point. Great that it was a girl too, as (naively?) I always think if someone already has a boy they'd want a girl next? .

I think I maybe had a tiny bit of spotting earlier, though can't be sure (why I can't be sure is TMI). So chances are I will be out :(. Is it wrong though, that a small part of me actually thinks this is a good thing, as I'm off to France to stay with a great friend next weekend, and wine will be high on the list of things to enjoy while I am there! Last time I went, we usually cracked open the first bottle at about 11.30 . If I did/do happen to get a BFP before then, there is no chance at all of hiding it from her. The minute I turned down the first glass, she'd say "oh yeah, pregnant then". Not a question, but a simple statement :)

How are all the other viroids I wonder? Hope Babylann is ok, she was having a tough time and has gone quiet? And SES how did your appointment go, still getting the BFP? Hope you are close to getting some resolution. Bam is your OH still keeping you busy? Everything still ok I hope - and dee too? Waves to caramel josie janedoe and anyone else I've forgotten:)

TTL is in early labour by the sounds of it too - exciting stuff! I think I'd have liked a boy after having DD1, but wasn't bothered either way. I actually did think DD2 would be a boy, as the pregnancy was so different and more troublesome than with DD1 ... either that or I had a little madam growing in there. I wasn't wrong with the little madam part I think I'd like a boy if I do manage to get pregnant again, as OH has a daughter too and it'd be something different and I quite like the idea of a mini OH

I'm thinking I'm deffo NOT pregnant, so just a matter of waiting for ERTD to turn up ... so as I'm off to my best mate's for a few days on Monday there'll be no problem with having our liquid lunch or having some wine of an evening.

I'm being all blokey now, lounging on the sofa with a bottle of beer and lusting over Liam Leeson watching The A-Team.

It does seem to just 2 or 3 of us posting lately - where is everyone else? How dare they have lives!!

at you being cross with the others for having lives!! I actually tried to recruit some new candidates on other threads the other day. Didn't work though . I do hope the thread keeps busy (by which I mean with a high turnover of newbies, NOT that I want us all to have to stay on the thread). I'm sure there are lovely people all over MN, but I think the people on this thread seem to have similar attitudes to life; and I really don't want to have to use the AF acronym! I especially like that we DO talk about other aspects of our lives, and despite some evidence to the contrary, can think beyond the 2ww and a BFP.

That said, where the FUCK is my BFP . .

In true JS style, even though I technically could be pregnant right now, I've had 2 hefty GnTs, 2 glasses of wine, and a super strong coffee. Well I had to drown my tennis sorrows somehow....

Hi everybody. Just thought I'd check in.

Sorry that you still don't know one way or t'other about ERTD nelly and crow. I will keep my fingers crossed in the meantime!

I feel rotten today. I had a stinking cold starting up yesterday. and this morning I woke up feeling like my throat had been sandpapered. I would normally be taking industrial strength painkillers, but now I can only have some poxy paracetamol, which don't do much for me. DP has taken DS out, so I might have a nice warm bath and then some chicken soup.

crow, when I had DS I REALLY wanted to have a son, but this time I am desperately hoping that Bean will be a girl. I feel quite different this time around, so fingers crossed, but i know in reality that I won't really mind at all.

Hi bambam, glad all still good. How long till you get a scan now?

Still nothing here, though I thought I had a tiny hint of cramps earlier, but they've gone again. I did PIAR, randomly, late morning. Serves me right, crappy cheap test was invalid . So still on gusset watch. Can you get a uti from going for a pee too often??

Hi nelly! It all sounds a bit exciting for you! When is your ERTD actually due, do you think? I got a UTI right before I got my BFP! I was constantly peeing, and then it got quite sore, but I don't know if I was peeing all the time because of BFP or because of UTI!

Still feeling rubbish here, but a bit better than earlier. I have the midwife coming to visit on Monday afternoon, then I hit 9 wks on Wednesday. I will get my scan at 12 wks, but I don't have an appointment yet. Really excited about that. Also, I have the stop smoking midwife coming to see me on Friday. Fecking smoking. I am getting there, but it's so hard, and I hate feeling guilty when I do have one. Sorry. I hope she can help.

Well I'm on day 27 of a cycle that's anywhere from 25 to 28 days. Only 12dpo though. But I'm fairly sure I had a tiny bit of beige-y discharge when I wiped earlier, so now I suspect ERTD will turn up in a day or two. Bugger and shite.

Nearly 9 weeks already, wow time goes so fast! Luckily I don't smoke but I imagine giving up cold turkey would be hard. I've no idea how I'd cope giving up wine .

Put the wine down, nelly ya radge! I thought giving up booze would be really hard, but it's been fine, even when DP has some. The fags are a whole different ball game though, even with patches. I am considering one of those inhaler thingummies, if I'm allowed to use one.

Time really is flying. It's a bit scary, as we really need to think about a new house and get away from this place. I am just trusting that it will all work out fine in the end!

Really hope that ERTD doesn't come, but have a anyway until you are sure one way or another.