JSing viroids, on your marks, get set, shag!

[JosieSmith1]

The (updated)(again)(again)(again) 'rules' from our Just Shagging Originator for the Viroids:

Maintain a relaxed attitude at all times - drink if you want too, especially on your birthday (or when you've had bad news). Thread precedent dictates if you drink to excess you will get a BFP (but not recommended). (But it does work).

Covet thy husband and enjoy every minute. Shag at every opportunity - shag-capes and awesome superpowers optional.

Keep acronym-age to a minimum! EWCM is now to be referred to as 'pant snot'. Try not to get sucked in by Fertility Friend (at least for a while), but knowing where you are in your cycle and furkling for pant snot is most definitely allowed.
OV is ovulation - I'm allowed to forget what date I've OVd, feel free to join me on that one!

Bunting is to be put out for any small victory, thread-parties are held regularly and hugs are always welcome!

Once you have your BFP, feel free to hang around and share your wisdom and virtual cocktails with the JSers.

Keep us up to date with gossip!

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Most of these rules are well and truly broken!! But we try to chill - honest

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Part 1 Graduates:
Tanmu82 - BFP
PrivetDancer - BFP
OnlyWantsOne - BFP
Frankenfanny ? BFP
Notso - BFP
knittakid - BFP
loopeylu - BFP
PinkFondantFancy - BFP
Grannyapple ? BFP
Fuzzywood - BFP
canoe - BFP
janedoe - BFP
StarflowerGirl - BFP

Part 2 Graduates:
ihaveaplan - BFP
lovemylulu - BFP
shitforbrains - BFP
gormers - BFP

Part 3 Graduates
Bonkerz - BFP
Kitten - BFP
Cowboylover - BFP
takingtheplunge ? BFP

Part 4 Graduates:
NoMoreChocBiscuits - BFP
Milanomum - BFP
Cremegg - BFP
BrassicaBabe - BFP
Dynababy - BFP

Part 5 Graduates:
TakeThatLady - BFP
Vallinna - BFP
SingingMog - BFP
aDarkStarWithStrangeWays - BFP
Eskarina - BFP

Part 6 Graduate
Reality - BFP

Part 7 Graduates:
Katiepie - BFP
CaramelGirl - BFP
Nickelbabe - BFP
Panpie - BFP
Brightcopperkettles - BFP

Hello folks.... >

Thank you for the shout out, Nelly - was so touched you remembered me, I thought I'd come and say hi. I do lurk every now and then, but still a little apprehensive my sister will spot me!!

So - congrats in order for Dee and Bam. I really hope that you have more joy with this one, Dee - if I remember correctly you sadly had a mc last time. :(

Josie and babylann sounds like you've been having a rough time of it with depression. Sorry to hear that, and really hope you're able to get the help you need. Do remember that MH problems are exactly that - to do with your health and not just mind. As in they are a physical problem the same as diabetes or asthma. So nothing to be ashamed of at all. I hope that didn't sound patronising...

Nelly - rotten news on your pony. That is horrid. But I remember up the thread that you said your DH was helping out more and with the better weather hopefully things are a bit easier. Have you had your GP appt yet? (lost track). It will probably be for the best to have things looked at sooner rather than later.

I am still waiting....on cycle 7 of clomid with no joy. Not even a teasing faint line to keep me guessing. We have our next FC appt in a few weeks - 2 days after my 30th birthday, ironically. So fully expecting to be put forward for IVF. My DH is saying we should try IUI first, but I am not up for it at all. More drugs and not much higher success rate than with clomid. More time off work for appts, etc, so will push to go straight to IVF.

Oh and isn't that wonderful news about Brassica - thanks for pointing out the thread Nelly. Sigh - she started clomid just before me.... Anyway, wonderful that she now has her twins. And I saw a thread of takethatlady - about being excited for the baby. Lovely when one of ours has their baby.

See, I still think of myself as a JSer, although it looks as though I will be as far away from JSing as is possible. Our DC might be conceived without even a shag!! But the thought was there!!

to all, and resumes hiding in the corner.....

Just quick but wanted to grab Miff by the ankles and drag her back. Delighted to see you but sorry you're still not pg . Soon, it'll be our turn though.

Hi too to crow, will post properly later and read thread properly. Stupid work

Hi Miffles, not patronising at all, it's actually funny to be reminded of that! I keep forgetting it is an actual illness not just 'not being able to cope' if you see what I mean [confusing]

I'm trying to log onto the other thread but it won't let me! I'm assuming BB has given birth to twins? She was on here just as I started so that's great to hear, although it does remind me that I've been here a long while now! ERTD due tomorrow so if it's not here by monday I'll be testing but I'll probably get on here at some point between now and then to let you know what's going on

Evening viroids. Thought I better pop back and say hi properly, given that my last post appeared to make no grammatical sense .

Soooo to catch up...

babylann I am reading that as twins are no more likely for you than they are for me. I think!

to crow. That's rubbish that your flipping body is playing tricks on you :(. But definitely getting back to actual shagging is a good start :). Re going to the doctors, I guess that's completely personal. For me, it's so far added no stress whatsover, I think in my heart I know we've not been that dedicated to the JSing until the last couple of months; so recently we've been a bit more active . That said, I decided to start with the tests anyway, because I knew I wasn't the type of person to get wound up by the fact we were "seeking assistance". I decided we'd be MORE stressed by waiting, given my age and the fact neither of us have kids yet so don't know if we can. I was also amazed by how quickly these due dates have arrived. I'm so excited for them :)

bambam yes a lovely large was raised in her honour last night. And another couple tonight . Any excuse, here! Hopefully you aren't having twins, unless you quite fancy that idea, in which case I retract my previous statement.

It's great to catch up with you miffles, though as I said in a very back to front way earlier, so sorry it's not With Child . To answer your question, I was supposed to go to my CD21 test today, which is actually cd19. However as i'm fairly sure I didn't OV until Monday, I took a gamble on my cycle being a bit longer this month, and cancelled today. I'm going to have to hope I can get an early appointment on Monday now :(. This sounds awful though, but despite my ancient-ness, I am arrogantly confident there isn't much wrong as I have fairly boring, textbook cycles, which implies I do ovulate. I am actually more keen on getting OH checked, as he smokes a very little bit, drinks a bit more than me (though in no way to excess) and cycles a bloody lot, which is apparently not so good for his swimmers

Oh dear, I don't think that post made much more sense than my previous one. 2 large glasses of wine, a sad week, tiredness, and the fact it's a bit too dark to see the keyboard = incoherent witterings

Thanks Nelly, I think I may go to the Dr, just for peace of mind.

Well, last night looked promising on the JSing front .... OH very frisky and suggesting an early night. Only it didn't happen - after watching a film he said he was tired and would come to bed very soon. So I waited and waited and nearly 3 hours later he came to bed, by which time I'd fallen asleep he then tried to snuggle up to me and try it on, but I was too sleepy and also feeling too hot, then too cold with no covers so was a tad grumpy. Woke up this morning with a leap in temp, so I may have ovulated! Told OH that I was either coming down with something, hence getting hot and bothered in the night, or I'd ovulated and he said "yay, we can make a baby later" .... then I told him it was already too late at least he's still keen ... But buggery bollocks to timing!

Oh crow very frustrating about last night, but I'd say go for it tonight anyway. If there is one thing I'm learning about this JS lark, it's that who knows WHAT the fuck goes on in our bodies, so shag away, just in case :). For what it's worth though, I struggle with this problem too - trying to get the right balance between letting OH know it's relatively important that we have sex tonight, without saying anything of the sort! I sometimes manage and sometimes not. It's usually something lame along the lines of asking what sort of time he was planning on coming to bed, and a suggestion not to be too tired when he does . I think I'll avoid at all costs mentioning the words timing, ovulation, fertile period and pantsnot, and just tell him I'll be wearing the least fleecy and skanky of my PJs . And if he's REALLY lucky, that I've had my legs waxed AND cleaned my teeth before bed .

Sorry Crow, I don't think they realise how short the window is! We went away a couple of weeks ago just for 2 nights, it was supposed to be oving weekend but couldn't get booked up then, so we went a couple of days before oving, and DH was ill, but I seduced him anyway (I'm just a little bit desperate ) but then when ov weekend came, I forgot (in my defense we were both ill)

No progress yet here Although I've had 3 small chicken skewers for tea (not really hungry), been feeling sick on and off all afternoon and when I was riding last night and today my pelvis/hip bones were aching, not common for me, and now my legs are aching as if I've been walking all day, which I haven't . Cervix is low and firmly closed, which must also be a sign . I'm heading for such a big fall if this isn't the month!

Oh Josie I so so hope it is your month so long as some of us can share :).

I'm sure you don't need much more encouragement, but I noticed you on another thread saying you were thinking about starting down the medical route. When I saw the Doc earlier in the month, he said that time and time again that he starts tests for people, and they get pregnant in the intervening period. That's the current straw I'm clutching at! So give your body a Stern Talking Too, and tell it that if it doesn't do what it's told, you will start sticking needles in it, and dildocams up it, to bully it into submission .

I too am being a bit daft. I'm either 5 or 8DPO. Today I've had low-grade but definite period style pains all day. I really think I OV'd on Monday, as I had very obvious pantsnot and mittleshmerz pains. That puts me at 5DPO, so you can imagine where my head is at. I will be really incredibly cross if this is the first sign of ERTD. It can't be, can it? .

Stern Talking To, not Too*. Grrrrr.....

Normally I'd say no Nelly but TTC seems to mess things up sorry I can't be more help

I keep thinking 'I'll stay on this thread for a while' and I'm thinking about the grads thread, I feel as if I've had a positive test [scared of how disappointed I'll be emoticon)

How's it going Josie? Any sign of ERTD? I really hope not!

Weird, isn't it, how your body knows about TTC? I came off the pill about a year before we started trying, so it's not like there was a sudden change. But once the condoms were staying in their wrapper, my cycle length seemed to get shorter. I know some things are just down to me paying more attention, but not everything. Do my ovaries read MN I wonder? .

I'm still getting rumblings in my tummy. I am blatantly not ignoring them though.

Nelly, I kept waking up in the night thinking I was having ERTD cramps, so woke up really disappointed, had a furkle and found some discharge that I sometimes get before ERTD so got very downheartened, had a mope (shed a tear or two) put in a tampon and went off for a long ride. Just got home and took it out, and still nothing but the discharge I've had no cramps today but I don't usually when I'm riding, and since then some funny feelings but no proper cramps. If my body is playing horrible tricks on me I will not be pleased I will get my revenge by needles and dildocams as you said I'm refusing to test or mention it to DH or best friend (who likes to be kept up to date ) cos I think I'll be jinxing myself. I just want to know one way or another

I think ovaries definitely read MN! How else would they know what we don't want them to do

Only on MN would you happily write that you had a furkle and found some discharge . In the nicest possible way, I'm not sure I'd ever want to meet a fellow JSer, as I don't think I could ever look you all in the eye .

I am at your long ride though. My mare is still a bit poorly, and I can't get going with the other one, lack of energy and focus mainly, but now that one has a snotty nose and a cough . I know what you mean about not getting cramps when you ride, I always found it was the best cure for period pains! Though of course we hope there won't be any of those for a while :)

Any other viroids around today? Hope you've all had nice weekends. Don't tell me if you've had boiling weather though, as I'll have to add another face!

Wow Josie, getting excited for you. And early crossed fingers for you too Nelly. Sorry to hear sad thread chat earlier, sounds like tough time for lots of us- surely we deserve BFPs now?
Being v lazy lying around in blissfully cool house watching Glastonbury coverage on tv and being glad I'm not there- too old now! Singing along to the Vaccines whilst reading paper on sofa much more my speed now!

Caramel that sounds lovely! I've not decided about the Vaccines yet. I must be REALLY too old, as I've not bothered watching any of it, even though my 2 favourite bands in the world were playing.

Thanks for the crossed fingers, but I suspect know it's just wishful thinking.

Morning ladies. Just thought I'd quickly check in. DP is away for a walk across the Forth Road Bridge and DS is tucked up on the couch with a horrible cold!

I too have my fingers firmly crossed for you both, Josie and nelly. It all sounds quite promising for you both. It's funny really, as I have never rode a horse (I sat on one once when I was little and was terrified as I'm scared of heights!) but I've been reading your stories and really want to go horse riding! Bizarre! Better not take it up at the moment!

Sorry about your bad JS timing crow. I'm glad that you and your OH are both back on the JSing wagon though.

Hope you enjoyed it Caramel, I have never heard of the Vaccines

Nelly if it makes you feel better we didn't really enjoy the ride as it was too hot

I've started spotting, which never happens, and I'm onto day 31 so far, which has also never happened. I have no idea what is going on with my body right now but I hate it for being useless and also very cruel making me think it was my turn

PS fingers still crossed for you Nelly, I might be out of the race but you might not be

Bam probably not a good time to start but something to look forward to

You might not be out Josie, I refer you to Milanomum and her 1 day period, swiftly followed by a BFP. PIAR, perhaps???

LOL at bam wanting to go horse riding .

I managed to get to the Doc today for my Day 21 blood test (although it's day 22) and I should have results by end of week. Still need to get OH to JIAJ but as we donned shag-capes last night just for fun then we need to wait at least 3 days. I also need to take my own vaginal swab. Nice.

Josie, like nelly said, don't give up hope. PIAR! I bled for first ten weeks of dd pg- and ten weeks after she arrived too- not nice.
Hmmm,with glasto chat I fear I an coming across slightly cooler than I am! I am dedicated r4 listener so have no clue re modern music. And don't do festivals any more, no. Tho' reckon we'd do big chill or something mumsy like that. Anyway I was in a cafe when a super funny song called post break up sex came on and I found put ages later who it was by. So felt cool as I'd read about Vaccines in culture pages- so middle aged!! So you have prob heard it too Josie. And nelly, not too old to listen but too busy!
Keep hoiking breasts and am convinced they are heavier and bfp on way to me for Monday after next. DH says not this month, but as ever hoping he'll be wrong wrong wrong.
Washing drying pleasingly quickly but coming in with scarily large insects attached. So had to murder lots and then rewash bedding now gorily stained with death. Bought some cheap JL silk pillowcase to see if they do make your hair silky. A tip I remember from mizz back in the day. My memory never works for important stuff sadly.
Glad all going well still bam, despite family lurgis. Am off to Gynae on Weds evening so am excited.

well ERTD has definitely arrived I was furious for a while but have had an appt withh counsellor so feeling a little brighter.

Back to work tomorrow, not looking forward to it but I'm on leave next week, going to docs to start tests

Ah Josie that's rubbish . But I'm glad the counselling session helped, hope you are doing ok. Re going to the Doc, if they start with the normal tests they'll want to do a day 4(ish) blood test, so might be worth getting there asap? In any case, remember to give those ovaries a little chat about bucking up their ideas soon .

Like the idea of the silk pillowcases Caramel. I have a feeling I'd end up with rather fly-away hair if I tried that! And I think that's the first time I've heard of anyone being excited by the Gynae . Or were you being ironic? . Hope it all goes well for you.

Hope DS feels better Bam. Are you still having Twins? .

Must try to have an early night as I'm sooo tired. Probably cos I'm pregnant .

So sorry josie that is rubbish. Counsellor sounds helpful. Heat doesn't help mood either I find. I have a friend with newborn and one with c section due next week coming over on Thurs so guess excited re Gynae as at least it will feel like I am doing something not just cursing fate in impotent manner. Tho' if it gets to taking my own smear I won't be super impressed!

Yes I know what you mean caramel. I'm really busy at work just now, and on Monday morning woke up thinking "ugh there is no way I can manage to fit in a blood test today". But then I decided the work could bloody well wait, and that I just wanted to keep this moving. Mind you I did mention to OH last night that he needs to arrange to do his part, and he was a bit vague. To be fair, the sample needs to get to the hospital miles away, within an hour of being taken, and between 8.30 and 9.30 in the morning. So it's a bit of a logistical nightmare given it's 25 miles away with rubbish rush hour traffic, and nowhere near his work. That, or he has to "book a room" and do it on site. Still, I have to stick a cotton bud up my fanjo so he can just flipping well Man Up .

The warm weather has finally made an appearance here, long may it last. Everything just seems so much better.

how is everyone else? Crow, babylann, josie, janedoe, bambam, who else did I miss?

No symptoms either way here just now, though I am totally convincing myself my boobs are heavy. They aren't, though . iphone says ERTD due on Friday, but as I think I ov'd last Monday I think that it'll be a longer cycle than my last couple. My body usually very kindly takes away the PIAR need, by starting spotting 3 or even 4 days before, so I always know it's on it's way. So I'm not going to tempt the fates by even working out when I might be able to test.