Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all laughing! All welcome! (Part 15)

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Hello! If you have recently miscarried and are thinking of or actively trying again come and join us! We offer plenty of cake, tea and wine if needed! Come in and laugh, cry and rant as needed, and don't be afraid of asking whatever questions you need answers to and we'll try our best to answer them.

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wtcc = waiting to try to conceive
ucl = usual cycle length
wtf cycle = the time after your mc when you have no idea whats going on with your normal cycle

Lets hope this is a lucky thread and we all get our bfps!

part 14 of the thread

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minnie that's great news congratulations. so pleased for you.

flg i'd definately double check with them that it is 4-6 months.

Gosh it's so exciting to see people get BFPs in almost real time!! Am relatively new to mn so haven't seen many. Good on you Minnie, really exciting stuff :) Hope it all goes well this time.

Cep I will indeed double check. She has gone away for a couple of weeks now and am still waiting for af (am kinda hoping it is later rather than sooner now as it would mean I wouldn't have planned to do anything anyway!) and will see what she says when she gets back.

sorry ladies, I'm struggling to keep up with threads at the moment

Mel so sorry to hear that you are having a heavy and painful AF, I really hope it settles down for you ((hugs))

Minnie , congratulations, brilliant news!

olis I've got FX for you for the end of the week x

Cep sorry you didn't get the doppler fix I know you wanted and that DS still isn't sleeping

Laylas hope you are ok?

Chloe think you are making a good decision to give the Clomid a miss this month, hope you get to enjoy yourself and have some fun

lily how's it going?

ochaye, so sorry to hear your news, hope you are getting some good support in RL

Oh cep that must have been really tough last night. But 30 minutes is really, really good! It can only get better from here. I hope you're ok after your appointment today, you sound like you are. It's very early to hear anything with the doppler so really nothing to worry about.

thumb/harassed - we won't wait for a full cycle before trying again either. I'm pretty realistic that it's unlikely to happen before af, but I feel better if I'm doing something.

Saying that, good for you Chloe for taking a break. Enjoy yourself!! You deserve it.

How quickly did you ovulate freelance? Straight after your mc? On the subject of the conversation with the midwife, I know she's away for a while, but when she gets back I'd be open with her about how long you feel you can wait and see what she suggests. How old are you (sorry for the direct question)?

Sorry you're in so much pain mellies - that sounds like a lot of bleeding. If I were you I'd transfer to pads until it settles a bit?

Lovely news Minnies! Warm congrats from Scotland x

Evening ladies,

Blackkat nice to see you on here, how's things? Hope you are ok, and your dad too x

Minnie congrats, that's great news!!

Chloe that all sounds very sensible. Have to say i've not temped at all this month and other than the folic acid haven't taken any supplements, and have had more than the odd glass or too as well. Sounds like just what you need.

Freelance that does sound like a long list, fx she's got it wrong.

Mellies hope AF slows down a bit for you, doesn't sound like much fun. I have the opposite problem, with 1/2 a day max and only need a thin pantyliner (sadly poor AF = poor lining I think) - your's must be brilliant, if that makes you feel any better!

Cep poor you, hope ds has a better night tonight. Any more spotting/mucus or is everything ok today?

Collie sorry you're feeling so pooly, hope the ms subsides a little and makes you feel more comfortable.

No news here, few cramps but nothing else so far. Last cycle (1st on clomid) was a perfect 28 days, but prior to that they've been anything from 25-50 days, so not getting my hopes up. Not going to test again until Fri, since I'm just wasting more sticks and I refuse to buy them cheap in bulk because I would just waste even more of them!!!

Congratulations Minnie !!!! ! Don't worry about pains, they are probably just your bean settling in and getting comfy!

Im with you on the quorn sausages harrassed (no I'm not stalking you!)

Nice to hear from you blackkat.

Waves to everyone else!

congratulations Minnie!! :)

Hi ochaye.

I forgot to write the damn day down when I felt I was ovulating but I think it was pretty soon after bleeding had stopped. Bleeding seemed to stop 2 weeks to the day I started spotting (which led into full on bleed and contractions and eventual natural mc). On that two week mark I also did a pg test and it was negative. I think around 2-3 days after that I ovulated. So that would be 17ish days after spotting started and 12 days after passed the sac (not sure if sac day passing is relevant).

Are you planning to start again right away?

Am 36, turn 37 at the end of July. I will definitely get serious with the midwife when she gets back. Am in full-on, proactive, obsessive research mode and want to get the ball rolling!

I know I said I would be going quiet but I can't resist lurking....then posting

Congratulations minnie that's fab news.

flg It does sound like an awfully long time to wait for all us TTC (prob not to 'normal' people though ) I hope she has got the dates wrong but like melie says if the odds are that different I really would wait. Mcing has ruined my life really - I know that sounds dramatic but have never suffered depression before and have never been s of people before.

Turns out I wasn't on CD1 yesterday - just my usual odd bleed when wiping Am pretty sure I can't have ovulated this month though as HPT still saying negative and AF is now late

Congratulations Minnie!! Pains are normal, I've had them every time and have 3 dc's. They are worrying though I know.

Blackkat lovely to see, hope you're doing ok. I do lurk on the "updiffed" thread occasionally to see how everyone is. Hope your Dad is doing ok.

Chloe you must be fed up and confused!! Is your gp any good?

flg you always sound sooo motivated!

Mel hows the bleeding today?

Lily fingers x'd for Friday for you!

Cep how was last night??

ochaye I didn't actively try before 1st af after first mc, but didn't take any precautions and got a bfn, but did get a bfp in the next cycle. I then mc'd so I'm unconvinced and hence why I'm not waiting again. I figure if I have to have 3 mc's then I might as well get it over and done with.

Really struggling at the moment, it's just anniversary after sodding anniversary. Yesterday was 12 weeks since erpc, today is 3 weeks since mc........not helped by the fact that we've got so much going on at the moment. Life is pretty stressful!!

How frustrating Chloe!

I'm still in agony, my usual prescription pain killers (mefnamic acid) aren't working, I've just taken some co codamol, I hope it works because yesterday I promised dd a trip to the soft play this morning! I feel really tired, I'm assuming from the blood loss and broken sleep, the clots this month are ginormous, I really hope this settles down soon :(

freelance I agree with everyone else that 4-6 weeks is a very long time for a private list, I wouldn?t have thought it would be much longer on the nhs. Is there no one else you can check with while that particular mw is away? I am sure not ttc straight away would be incredibly hard ? I know ttc helped give me a focus, but those odds are significantly better and I think would be worth the wait ? although it pains me to say that.

minnie congratulations on your bfp darling. I had mild pains (bit like an ache) on one side before and after my bfp ? lasted at least a week. I am certain this was implantation. I?ve also had lots of other pains but since had scan and all ok. They?ve settled down now, so I am sure they are all normal.

chloe how frustrating about your AF. Were you opk-ing this month? Did you not get a line? Is that usual not to ov when on clomid. I suppose this is exactly why you need better care and treatment. Have you had your referral yet?

mels I am so sorry your AF is so bad. It does sound heavy. If it is the last of the lining at least this will hopefully see you back to normal soon.

harassed so sorry you are struggling at the moment. Milestones are so hard I know. You sound very busy getting ready for you move, which is good if it?s a distraction, but don?t work yourself too hard. Its very draining and you need time to be kind to yourself ? and I really mean this harassed, find the time to do little nice things, even if its just putting a dvd on and sitting under the duvet with your dh and a box of chocs. Its what helps make this horrid time remotely bearable. (((hugs)) for you x

Good luck to loup and hopeful and anyone else on the 2ww. Fx for you all.

hope you are ok hun.

There?s a few people we?ve not heard from in a while tokyo hiding Hadrian loola vagas brooke Skitoo and angela hope you are all lurking but are ok xxx

Chloe that just sound very frustrating and if I am honest, your sentiment that it has to a certain extent ruined your (at least recent) life is something that I worry about happening to me too if I let myself get too involved in it (says she who spends most waking moments reading up about it and checking mn...). Sorry you have been feeling so low. The trouble is with this sort of thing is that it's not just physically and emotionally relevant it also involves a lot of hormones and even at the best of times hormones can bite you on the bum and make you (well they can for me) miserable for no real reason. So at times like these when you have huge reasons to be miserable it doesn't help that the hormones are running riot too.

I am generally positive Harassed and motivated. Don't get me wrong, I'm no Pollyanna and have low moments too but I think they just spur me on. Everything else is being neglected though!

Those anniversary markers really can hit you hard I know harassed. But I think in your position I would do the same thing - try again straight away as you are right in thinking that if it does go wrong at least you can get onto some testing programme.

Melies that sounds a nightmare. It is really draining to be losing so much blood. I really hope it settles down soon too. Just try to look after yourself and take it easy as much as possible (despite having to roll around in soft play balls..).

For me, I think from what other people have said, that the email must have meant a 4-6 WEEK wait for private rather than month so now I feel a lot more positive. Also am combining my mc experience with my work and hoping to write something about it and bring the fact that many of us get such lousy treatment some attention in the media.

Lily fingers crossed for Friday - let us know how it goes!

Hello to everyone else!

That sounds like a good idea freelance, mn are doing a campaign about treatment during mc, some of their gold standards are far removed from reality though! I personally found the overnight wait to go to epu for a scan very hard (I had an over weekend wait too with dd because the only place they scan in Swansea is epu between 8:30 and 11, the gp/mw/A&E just give you an appointment the next weekday) Plus I hated having to go back to epu for my follow up scan, especially as it is opposite the midwifery led birth unit! Good luck with it.

Yes I have read the campaign details and will be using a few to help me pitch the idea. The pitching process is the hardest bit but fingers crossed I will get something - especially as I can use my own experience as a case study. I had a weekend wait too as none of my local hospitals so scans on a weekend. Seems ridiculous really.

Morning ladies!

Huge Congrats Millie - its so great hearing there are BFP for people after MC!

Freelance I agree it must be weeks not months otherwise that is ridiculous. If it were me I don't think I could go through this again (very scared about it happening for a second time) so if there is a high risk which you could avoid by waiting then I think I would. Totally understand why you want to get on with it too though.

Melies sorry AF is so heavy. I bet you feel drained. You need to keep your iron levels up because of the blood loss. On the positive side though you are going to have a lovely clean womb ready to grow a baby by the time its over!

Collie hope the sickness is a bit better today?

Loup are you holding out for testing? How far along the 2ww are you now?

Hi blackat hope your Dad is doing ok and the wedding planning is going well.

Chloe how frustrating for you. I hope your month off gives a chance for your body to get back to normal. I hope you feel better soon (go get some chocolate until then)

Harassed so sorry you are feeling down hun. It's only natural and we all totally undestand how hard it is at each milestone. I promise though (even though I want to throw something at people who say this) it will get a bit easier. Even just two weeks ago I was feeling totally rubbish (especially with PMT hormones) and I feel much stronger now than I did then. Sending you a hug.

Lily well done for holding out on testing!

Am feeling a bit frustrated today. Since we had the "talk" mid DTD and decided to start TTC we haven't done it once! Now I know we aren't on the key days but still! Its not DH fault but life in general just gets in the way. We went to bed ridiculously late last night as we had a leak and the night before I was in agony with my back. I just want to DTD and get knocked up. Is that too much to ask!!!!!!! I am determined to do it tonight (am on CD11) but then I don't want to keep telling DH we have to or get stressed about it otherwise he will think I am becoming obsessive...I am but he doesn't need to know that!

xx

Minnie I am so so pleased for you how wondeful. So sorry find it really difficult to keep track what day were you on when you tested?? Pain is normal had the same thing with dd.

Waves to everyone else

Huge congrats minnie great news!! Fx for more BFPs this month.

Bump hope you get to DTD this evening and as much as possible over the next few days!!

I'm currently 7 or 8dpo having ovulated on day 22/23, would love to hold out until AF does/doesn't arrive but think i'll cave this weekend........ Let me know how you're getting on hopeful1, I still have no symptoms not even sore BBs so am thinking it's going to be a BFN this month, we'll see.

Waves to all those lurking x

Loup I cant stand this 2ww anymore. I am so neurotic i dont know if i have symptoms or not. Have a little bit of mild heartburn today and still cramping. I do feel tired but I think that is more anxiety than anything else. Dont feel anything else. Really dont feel very positive!! Going to acupuncture tonight which always calms me down. I guess it is a little early for us to get many symptoms. Fx for bfps this month. It is so nice to be on this journey with someone else x

Sorry its been so confusing for you chloe you never know on the other hand i do i took one of my CB digis and it came up a clear not pregnant at 11 dpo so thats me out for this month I will test Sunday but I really dont "feel" pregnant at all so i knew it was coming.

I have been to the gym and i burnt 400kcl in a hour so very pleased with myself it is well need going to take my weight problem and take control least its one thing i can do....who knows it might help me get pregnant?!

Congrats to Minnie for the BFP - hope it all works out for you!

Ochaye - I know you didn't ask me the same question as FLG but am going to answer anyway - if I am right, and the CM was telling the truth, then I probably ovulated overnight on Sunday/Monday (April 10/11); MC started on Mar 30, sac passed Mar 31st. I stopped bleeding on the Sunday, Apr 3; so it would appear that ovulation happened quite quickly. If it did. FX!

Harassed - anniversaries are terrible - my 1st MC was just before Christmas 2009 and I worked out my EDD would have been around my birthday in 2010 - DH had completely blanked it from his memory of course, but I had a little snivel.

Melies - your period sounds really awful!! Hope it is just clearing stuff out, you poor thing :(. If you aren't already, try taking some Spatone or something to keep your iron reserves up.

Chloe - having a rest is probably a very good idea! Wish I could afford the time to.

FLG - it might be right, depends on how much private work the doc in question does! But do double check, definitely.
I am in Australia so it all works a bit differently over here - but at the start of this year I talked to my GP about fertility problems, she asked if I wanted to see a gynae consultant about it, I said yes so she gave me the name - the first available appt was over 4m away! And I still have to pay for it (but that's just the nature of the beast over here).

I am definitely constipated - this is a known "sign" for me but I have no others so I am going to wait a while before considering testing. If I "forget" about it, I can manage quite well - I haven't reached the anxious 2ww level yet, not sure why but it has to be a good thing, right? [needy emoticon]

Well my lovely BFP pre brithday turned out to be a chemical pregnancy. The line never got any stronger and then AF started monday so that puts me at CD3 today.

Quite upset and sad as had got to the point I started to think it was really going to happen, (TMI alert) even vomited up my birthday dinner and I'm not normally a vomity person.

Back to see consultant on friday so at least will be able to raise it with them and see what they say. Can't get in to see the GP until 27 April.

Will have to catch up on all i missed later as work is crazy busy today - holidays are great until you have to go back to work with jetlag :)

stitch i'm so sorry hon. i hope you have lots of support in rl at the moment.

chloe how confusing. i definately think time off may be a good idea. hope it sorts itself out soon

mel sorry it's making you so tired, sounds like your body needed it, hopefully this'll put you back to normal. as someone else said iron tablets may be a good idea.

bump glass of wine and seduction eyes i think tonight.

oli sorry about bfn, but 11 dpo still seems early to me.

thumb keeping fx for you.

hihp sorry you're finding it difficult at the moment. i keep thinking that i would be 7 months by now. not looking forward to june.

blackkat hope your dad is ok.

sorry if i've missed anyone. Ds wasn't too bad last night, woke at 5 and cried for 10 mins. then about 15 mins later cried for about 3 mins. then when alarm went off at 6 he was fast asleep. am hoping it'll get less and less till none.

Thanks cep DH has been lovely but did have to put on a brave face as he had gone to so much trouble over the NY trip that I couldn't spoil it for him by being overly emotional and upset.

When I got home yesterday it was a different story but had a good cry to mum on the phone and she was lovely and sypathetic.

Aww stitch - sorry to hear that. Glad your DH is being lovely to you and glad your mum is able to help. :(