Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all laughing! All welcome! (Part 15)

[meliesmummy]

Hello! If you have recently miscarried and are thinking of or actively trying again come and join us! We offer plenty of cake, tea and wine if needed! Come in and laugh, cry and rant as needed, and don't be afraid of asking whatever questions you need answers to and we'll try our best to answer them.

Add yourself to the stats list whenever you are ready.

wtcc = waiting to try to conceive
ucl = usual cycle length
wtf cycle = the time after your mc when you have no idea whats going on with your normal cycle

Lets hope this is a lucky thread and we all get our bfps!

part 14 of the thread

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Hi Angela I got mine yesterday so in the same boat. Sorry to hear about uti.

mel I going to start opk's today and boobs are a bit sore.

I've been arguing with stupid sil on FB. She put up a pathetic i'm prg status, and then thought it was funny. When I pointed out it was insensitive to joke, I've been told that I can't have a laugh......

Hello all,

Cep Thank you for explaining about the deadline.. sorry, I had to go and do all sorts of RL nonsense. Will be thinking of you on Tuesday. I hope you slept better last night?

Big waves to everyone else and hello to minnie and Olis (I hope I didn't forget anyone)

Angela and Harassed I stopped bleeding (FX it doesn't start again) and I got a -ve yesterday too. Feel relieved. Are you going to wait for an AF or start trying this month? I am going to stay on WTTC list for now.

Have had the weirdest, weirdest thing for the last couple of days. Feel quite in the mood for DTD AND am fancying everyone. Which is entirely inappropriate considering my current predicament (you know, mc and all). My DS was watching Mr Bloom's nursery today and I quite fancied Mr Bloom! Arrghhh. Wrong! Surely?!

Am assuming this is my evil hormones

Really I'm not going to actively try this month, but not going to stop it. Same as last time, I really can't be arsed sorting out contraception for one month. Also, I have to have 3 consecutive mc's before I can get an tests and dh only wants to have one more go, but if I mc again then I'll get tests and hope to persuade dh to have another go........

Another friend has just announced on fb that she's prg, despite her dh having the snip. Tis def a true one too.

really I was like that after my mc, it must be a hormone thing! Glad you've had a bfn, you too Angela and harassed.

I'm wondering now if I've missed the boat for this month now...apparently with opks you are meant to start using them based on your shortest cycle in the last 6 months and according to the chart I should have started on day 5. We havent dtd for well over a week because of the bleeding, have I left it too late??!!!

Really that did make me laugh. My hormones made me feel a bit rampant too - mind you they did when I was pg as well - fancying random strangers in the street! :) I remember seeing one guy look at me and feeling eternally grateful that although I was pg someone still fancied me. Not that I looked pg, I just felt bloated and not very attractive.

Hello Harassed, Melies and everyone. I am not really sure Melies about whether it is too late or not this month but it can't hurt to have a go anyway...?

Angela and Really, Harassed and all the new BFN* achievers, I too had a BFN this morning! I was so scared to do the test, got some cheapo ones from boots and took a deep breath. I had a bit of an emotional moment afterwards as now it really is all over but I guess I am ok to ttc again. I might wait for my first AF though as I still feel a bit tired and weird sometimes. Not just because of ttc but in general, I want my pre-pg strong, energetic body back! So frustrating having been pregnant and now not but still dealing with the physical aftermath.

Keep me on the WTTC list for now...

Hi girls

Ihave never used OPKs so I can't really add anything helpful on that sorry.

Harassed she sounds like she is being an idiot. Has she ever had a miscarriage? Until she does she can't comment in my view. I think you are perfectly right to say she is insensitive.

Really we haven't tried this month and am waiting for AF. I say "tried" in that we used contraception when I thought I was most fertile (think egg whites TIM!!?!) and then once that passed we didn't use anything and just thought it would be unlikely to result in me getting pregnant.

Angela glad you got your negative result but sorry about your UTI - what a pain!

Melies I have no idea sorry! Has the bleeding totally stopped again now?

I am still waiting for my period. I get the odd niggle and think its coming and then nothing. Hope it comes this weekend as I want to go on the TTC list!

For those of you who read all about yesterday's upset with my DH...well we are speaking again but he got home too late to discuss it. We've kind of gone back to everything being normal. I guess I told him how I felt in the email and he said it was a joke so he probably thinks that's it. I personally think he should have apologised as he upset me so much - even if it was unintentional but he is not good with the apologies. He did want to be all cuddly last night and kept squeezing me so I suppose that was his sorry in his own way! Men eh!

Melies Hope you didn't fancy Mr Bloom. I even like the gardening gear. .

Melies Can you just start the OPKs today or tomorrow and FX you haven't missed it? You might not have. Day 5 would be v early to ovulate anyway wouldn't it? I reckon if this is day 10 you should be fine, surely? Did you ovulate early pre MC? If not, I reckon you'll be fine. Can I ask what chart you referred to?

Harassed Bloody hell, that's crazy about the friend on FB. Am taking a break from FB at the moment in case I read something that upsets me. The whole world is pregnant (even ones where DH has had the snip, WTF?) Will you use OPKs this month do you think?

Ladies, those of you ttc, may I ask what your strategy is? Are you doing opks? Do any of you do temps and fertility friend? Are you taking special supplements?

Sending lots of Friday and

Just sent that and saw I missed lots:

Freelance Glad you got your BFN too. Have I missed any new BFN achievers? I feel the same as you. I don't feel very strong. I might go back to the gym next week, again, feel the physical aftermath is alot to deal with.

Bump Sounds like a gentle way of dealing with the first month. I don't even remember what contraceptions there are out there anymore! I think I will do the same. Glad you have made up with DH, good that he tried to cheer you up with cuddles.

and Angela Sorry for the UTI, you poor thing.

Ok my strategy is...

DTD and taking a pre pregnancy vitamin supplement. That is pretty much it. I am trying to avoid anything to do with temperatures or OPKs at this stage as if my obsessiveness with POAS once I thought I was pregnant is anything to go by, I will be spending £££ and it will take over my every waking thought.

ALso don't want DH or me really to feel like its a chore or we're only doing it because I want a baby so have decided nice undies, massages and that kind of thing are def in order 'cos lets face it, when I was pregnant before I was too scared to DTD early on as I had such bad pains and later I think I'll be tired and will probably want to go to bed in sweatpants! SO I figured to try and keep the stress levels low its better to DTD as much as possible, for it to be fun and to make the most of this time.

Hmm I'd better get a spray tan if I am even considering putting on anything remotely lacey and flimsy otherwise DH will be put off.....

Hi Really and Bump I went back to the gym this week. Felt REALLY good afterwards, even though it was a lot less than I did before. But then once I got home I was exhausted. Was going to go the next day but cancelled. It's frustrating to be doing less than before. I think I have about half a stone of pregnancy-gained weight to lose.

My strategy is probably the same as Bump's. I have thought about OPKs but don't think I will go down that route straight away. Taking Sanatogen pre-preg vitamins and Omega 3 already and also adding selenium now to help lower thyroid antibodies.

Am also waiting until after AF I think, but BFN is a good start. What's yours Really? Do you think we should really go down the OPK route?

really no, I never wanted to jump mr bloom! Hehe! There's a chart in the box. I don't think I've ov'd yet though because I only did 16ish days ago but my body is so messed up who knows?! I think last month I just had a pathetic luteal phase so I could well have had a fertilised egg in there that never had the chance to implant which is very frustrating! I hope it doesn't happen again, I'm hoping the reflexology sorts me out! As for our 'routine' we both take multivits, me pregnacare conception, dh wellman conception (cheap on amazon), and dh also takes 1000mg vitamin c (with reminding!), and we both eat brazil nuts. I use opks, usually from day 10 (I like tescos ones) then we dtd either daily or at least every other day for about a week, depending what the opks tell me. We started using conceive plus lubricant last month too (from boots). Hth!

And im not going anywhere near fertlity friend because i know that I will end up obsessed with it!

Really...there is nothing wrong with Mr Bloom!!!
I wasn't planning on waiting for AF, however if this UTI persists it may work out that way.
Harrassed... I've had the same thing today on FB 4 friends have decided that a good april fools is to tell everyone they're pregnant, I'm trying to ignore their insensitivity, and lack of creativity!!!
Glad you two got your BFNs too. xxx

Melies Ooh, my DD took 15 months to conceive. Started using OPKs after 6 months and found I was ovulating day 21 in a regular 28 day cycle. 2 months before I conceived her i started taking vitamin B and still ovulated day 21. Had my reflexology appt and that month it went from day 21 to day 14! And got pregnant. My reflexologist was a friend and she's my DDs godmother, that's how much I think it worked! Was also using conceive plus. Must look into the vitamin c and brazil nuts.

With the mc I did seem to ov on day 15. Oh well.

This time around I will definately use OPKs for a month to make sure I ovulate on a decent day. And hope the acupuncture works too. I say a month, I will be using OPKs for as long as it takes and get totally sucked into the POAS world!

freelance Good to know you're getting back into a RL routine though. So great you got to the gym. What does selenium do? Is that specific to you?

I can see that I will be spending the next however long taking 800 vitamins, nuts etc!

Bump Sounds like a nice way to do it, I think my DH would be alot more comfortable with that approach.

Selenium (and am assuming this why Melies is eating Brazil nuts as they are full of it) is said to help keep thyroid antibodies down. They are said to sometimes be a cause of mc. I know mine are high as I also take thyroxine for a thyroid prob. Am 'normal' with my thyroid hormones but high antibodies. Might be worth getting it checked for non-thyroid people too.I didn't take it last time and am kicking myself thinking I should have done.

Gosh your experience with OPK sounds good. I have no idea when I am ovulating! My cycle is between 28 and 38 days usually but has been up to 45 days (a while ago though). Usually is around 33 and I think I was ovulating when it is commonly thought I should when I got pg. Might be worth checking though!

What kit should I buy? Do I have to get a v expensive one?

Angela Damn stupid facebook friends. I have had a couple of scan pics on my page today too - which am assuming aren't april fool's.

Freelance I bought internet cheapies online, which worked fine. I think they were about £5 for a months supply. I did use the more expensive ones too (£10ish for a month's supply?), but seemed no better. I will try and remember what site I used, will have to buy some more too. Ebay sells them too.

Oh, never knew that about thyroid problems. My mum takes thyroxine for an over active thyroid. Maybe I should get it checked. Or just take selenium anyway, and brazil nuts!

Angela Maybe we should have a new list on the stats for 'Admirers of Mr Bloom'. Am feeling VERY pleased I have kept away from Facebook. So tactless.

Off to buy full gardeners outfit for DH. .

to everyone - sorry mental day at work, glad to hear that there is some positive BFN news, for this, and for this time only.

Will repost later as think I should move myself to a different list!

Really I had only thought of what I would be wearing (not much and lace) and not what DH would be wearing....oooh so many options....am thinking maybe pilot or that white outfit Richard Gere has on in the end of that film (name escapes me at the moment). At the moment gardener doesn't do it for me but as the months progress, if I don'tget pregnant, I will certainly give it further thought!

For those lovely ladies who've had their BFP after a MC....can you tell me how long (roughly) it took?

I got pregnant on the first non try first time around and I have no doubt that we won't be so lucky this time. I know everyone is differnet but just a ballpark figure would be nice!

Wondered if I might join you, had a MC at 7 weeks end of Jan. Was really awful and am still very sad about it but am back TTC. Had AF and am now in my 2WW ? OV?d on CD21. Have been lurking around and have found it so helpful when MC was happening that thought I should post myself.
I do have antiphospholipod syndrome so that means am more likely to MC but had hoped that with all the drugs I was being pumped with I might have got lucky.
Because we wanted to try again straight away after the MC have been kept on both the heparin and aspirin instead of going back onto warfarin). Is ok but getting quite sore from the 2 x daily shots!
my stats stitchinline TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL 33, CD28

Just quick post (from work loos ) here is a link to info on supplements. I took evening primrose oil b4 ov and flaxseed after, selenium, zinc and folic. Dh took zinc, selenium, fish oils and L-Arginine. I also drank grapefruit juice b4 ov for cm, and both of us ate brazil nuts.

Also see here for SMEP -sperm meets egg plan

Despite best efforts still mentalling worrying over pains. cep I have a bad feeling too fx we're both wrong.

Will catch up proper later

really at the gardening outfit!!!

It'll be great to see you on the bfp list blackkat!

Freelance I find tescos ones work well, £7 for 7.

Hi stitch, welcome! Have you tested this month yet?

I just baked muffins, I'll put some out for everyone. Burnt my finger :(

Oh collie, if I was with you I would give you a big un mn hug. I wish I could make you feel better. Will be thinking of you on Monday x

Hi melies I have tested with internet cheapie this morning - BFN. Am a bit of a POAS addict and have quite a collection! My excuse is that because of the drugs I need to know ASAP to get the dosage right :o

Stitch Welcome and sorry for your loss in January. What is antiphospholipod syndrome? Sorry to hear you have to do daily shots - it must feel v. tender.

Collie Am so sorry you are so worried about the pains and wish you felt better about it. Will be thinking of you on Monday too. Don't worry if you don't feel in the headspace for answering questions, but did you find the grapefruit juice made a difference? xx

Blakkat Agree, would be lovely to see you on the list!

Wow, thank you everyone for the lists and the tips. Fantastic to know, will read later when there's time.

Melies Lovely muffins. Thank you!

Afternoon all.

Sorry to see new people here. I find it quite distressing when our numbers swell. Usually they go down again quite quickly, so FX for some BFP's soon!

Like many of you I started off not temping, charting opk-ing. I did that for 3 months. I then decided to temp in order to check that I was actually ovulating, seeing as I have some pcos symptoms, and I was, so I did that for 3 months. Now just opk, with an occasional temp here and there to check I'm on the right track. temping can get full on as it's something you must do every day before you get out of bed, so quite consuming. I would definately try to wing it for a while before getting into temping.

collie and cep are you both in pain? Hopefully just some growing pains, hope you feel better soon.

mumtum I see from here and the freakout you're in a bit of a limbo? Good luck with the FMU tomorrow, if you store wee it can deplete hcg by 50% per 12 hours, so if it was borderline before, iyswim, it could have depleted on its own. Good luck for tomorrow.

melies has the bleeding settles again? I had random mid cycle bleeding here and there for a couple of cycles after the mc, it seemed to settle down after that though, it's a royal PITA and not very enjoyable.

Waves to all, hope you're all well and full of the joys of springtime! (I am)