The 6th form post mc ttc and pregnancy common room Part 2

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Getting us started on a new thread; this one is gonna be a lucky one!

Fab news lovelies cx

morning all - thanks for your lovely messages

wasn't being deliberately cool not to post, but was away at family all day and not back til late and pooped.

I am also quite cautious about this one - something doesn't feel quite right. The line yesterday when I had a quick look peered at obsessively is no darker than 2 days previously. I also had a little bit of spotting and some ache yesterday evening. I know that on their own all of these can be perfectly normal or innocent, but something just niggles :(. Of course I hope I'm being paranoid and daft, but I guess I don't want to be all "woohoo look at me" if I'm about to post about the world's shortest pregnancy in a few days .

wiggle - very chuffed for you. We can hold hands and pray for darker lines!?

chook how are you feeling today?

looking forward to hearing from NZbee

wave to all - DS asking for breakfast, better dash xx

jolls I really hope this is the one for you :) If you are concerned re dark lines - could you get your hcg done at your gp? I am keeping my fingers crossed for you xx

Still slightly spotting, am going to call the hospital at 8 and see what they want me to do RE the clexane - am going to push for another scan, I don't want to be injecting myself for no good reason xx

Hope everyone has a good monday (if there is such a thing)

Hello...can I come in and get comfy?

For those of you who haven't met me I had a mmc in feb, we have been tcc for a year next month and the arrival of my period this month has really got to me, I've been over on the ttc after mc thread and they pointed me over here and you all seem like lovely ladies so I took their advice. Sooo...hello everyone, I'm Melies and I'm sick of stressing about tcc!

welcome Melies, of course you can join silly! Sorry, of course, that you need to be here in the first place
I see you found the list already

Jolls fingers still crossed that the lines get darker. I had feint lines for a few days

Hoping the final sort and pack for NZBee is going well. Does anyone know when she actually flies? is it now or later this week?

Battery sounds like things are a bit calmer but I'm liking your plan for calling the hospital. I hope they can reassure you.

wiggle any darker lines for you yet? I SO hope so.

Izzy I'm at your MW, how seriously unhelpful. Can you see a different one?

Mouse have you got a meeting arranged with your bitchboss yet? I hope you sort it out according to your timetable, not theirs.

I'm starting to get the hunger now. Am looking around for anything sweet but I already polished off most of it over the weekend. Am right royaly pee'd off though because chocolate is off the menu as it really messes with my joints.

Waves to MummyA, AandR, Zam, YRMOTB, BBB, digital and everyone else

very quick post from work - saw at epau and scanned again - battery bean still in there and heart thumping away. I will be a nervous wreck soon. Will post longer later xx

Very quick query Is 37 good bad or indifferent as a progesterone level at 7dpo?

That's great news battery Im so pleased for you!

Still no meeting date yet freezing and union man hasn't returned my call. I'm giving him until lunchtime tomorrow and I'll ring again.

I haven't got a clue about those levels aandr sorry.

I hope all you bfp ladies see darker lines soon

Hoorah for batterybean the naughty thing, playing up and giving you such a fright. Your EPU sounds fab though.

freezing I too have "the Hunger". I have been going to the gym, but when I was working out my heart rate started dropping rapidly, by around 20 bpm and then stabilising and going back up. I think it's pg related, I haven't noticed it before, and work out a lot, but it's freaked me out a bit, and consequently I haven't done too much this week. The long and short of that story is that I'm convinced I can feel myself getting fatter as the days pass..

melies Hello! How are you feeling?

aandr I am afraid I have now idea about the Prog numbers. It sounds good though?

mummya how exciting re the possible move! What does your dh do? Will you be going to a spanish speaking EU country, or anywhere?

izz are you well?

wiggle still high? is tomorrow day 14?

Hope all are well, I am 5+4 today, if I make it to 6 weeks(Thursday I'm gonna ring the GP. I am home alone tonight. The plan is to read magazines, eat Frangipani, and watch any shit tv that might be on later. Have a lovely evening peeps.

yay battery great news on a lovely heartbeat.

AandR I dont know about prog levels either, sorry

YRMOTB sounds like a perfect evening, enjoy!

jolls sorry your line isnt darker yet - I retested a whole week after my original faint bfp and it was much darker by then so hopefully yours will be too in a day or so.

hi melies welcome over here :)

mouse dont let work bully you, when you do get updiffed you'll want the extra money to count towards maternity pay :) besides, as you have made quite clear, you were doing a brilliant job and have had time off for a legitimate reason which wasnt your fault! Your head really needs some formal warning about her behaviour.

to everyone else, I hope you are all good

Ok, this will be my last post on the topic then I'll just inbox the people who can make it;

I'm going to visit mamaps wine bar/restaurant at some point in the next couple of months. Let me know if you want to come and I'll get organising.

I know I've sent this before but I cant remember who replied!

AandR. I'm afraid I don't know anything about progesterone levels but hopefully someone else will be able to help. mummyA is always a fountain of knowledge on these things.

battery glad you had another scan & the chicklet is still safe and sound. hopefully you are getting the really stressful nerve shredding bit out of the way early

jolls I'm sorry that you aren't feeling completely sure about this one. Perhaps your body has gone into "protection" mode to help you get through this without the rollercoaster ride. I mean setting low expectations only to be pleasantly surprised. But ignore me too if that sounds a bit straw clutching as you know body.

great news chook - hope you are starting to feel reassured and a bit more relaxed.

AandR, mine was 55.9 when I was tested last year (saddo that I can remember that). By memory (and I stand to be corrected) over 30 shows you have ovulated? I think the "range" went up to about 90? But presumably you will be having some supportive feedback where someone will inform and reassure? [hopefulemoticon]

welcome to melies

My news... Ok, still spotting, and it was redder today, bit more when I pee, usual story. My plan is... if I'm not "out" already, will call EPU on Friday (at 5w), as I fall under RecurrentMCClinic and will get the 6/8/10/12 week scan support. I will also POAS later in the week to see if line darker. Am feeling quite zen about it actually, as have little expectation all will be ok. If I do lose this one, it doesn't feel quite the same as the last 3. Not to diminish any loss at any stage, but this early on, I mean I'll only have been pg for about 5 minutes...

wave to all
must wash up [life'ssothrillingemoticon]

Thanks for the lovely welcomes. yrmotb I'm feeling down about the whole thing to be honest...I just want to be pg and every month is just so stressful...the whole am I / aren't I thing is getting to me, I'm at the point where I just feel as though I can't take another month of trying but at the same time I feel like I can't give up yet. I think if nothing happens this month then I'll go back to the gp because it'll be a year but I think they'll say no to bloods just because I have had a pg during the year...worth a try I guess!

Sorry for not name checking, in work so got to be quick but good luck to those of you contacting your epus x

Hi MeliesM we are 3 mcs and 1.5years in since starting trying after popping out two DDs no problems - this whole horrible process is crap - good luck getting some help

Yay battery so glad you managed to get reassurance - if only for a day or two until you head back into mentalling!!

Well after consulting Dr Google I am still confused but think over 30 progesterone means you are likely to have ovulated but specialists prefer it to be higher. Would the testers thread be the best place to get details on progesterone supplements? I also read that after mc progesterone levels often drop and I wonder if that possibly explains why so many of us have bled during early pregnancy?

Jolls big hugs - fx it isn't what you think and just the standard 'turn you grey early' this thread special of bleeding during early pregnancy.

Evening ladies (or most likely good morning as I'm probably the only insomniac around here!)

Battery Congrats on the scan! I'm so pleased for you. How lovely to see a little heartbeat. I hope that that's the last scare for you now [stern emotion]

AandR Your progesterone level 'suggests ovulatory' (I've been rummaging around trying to find some info as I can't remember what level they like it to be over - Mummy will know, I'm pretty sure. 30 rings a bell though) FWIW my level was 33 on CD23 and the clinic has put me on bottom bulletscyclogest (although I'm not sure if that's just a precautionary measure, they seem to do it as par for the course)
BTW your future home looks amazing! I'm very of your project!! Did you find a piece of vacant land or do you have to knock something else down to build there? Kew is beautiful!

melies Welcome to this lovely thread. I think everyone on hear can relate to the frustration of ttc for what feels like/ is months on end. Make yourself comfortable, but not for too long mind, we're all going to be graduating to the freak out room before August, you hear?!

Digi Glad to hear you're back in the game and hopefully that BFP won't be far away now you're all stocked up on the meds. I've been taking 10mg of prednisolone daily for the past two weeks and no moonface side effects whatsoever to report just yet.

Velvet Count me in for meet up! Mamap's place looks fab and it would be lovely to put some names to faces. Never has so much intimate information been shared amongst total strangers (cm consistencies, swi patterns.. the list goes on!)

jolls I'm feeling pretty similar. Can't really get too excited and not sure if lines are getting any darker or not . I thought today's line was slightly 'fatter' this morning but it's still a skinny old thing, and similar in colour to yesterday's!
I'll be 13/14dpo tomorrow (official test date according to clinic) so I'm going to go and get my hcg done. I presume they'll then re-do it on weds/thurs to see if it's increasing. This is where it all went wrong last time. I've also scared the bejesus out of myself by looking at the FF pregnancy tracker to see what should be is going on inside at the moment and was freaked out by the complexity of it all and just how many things could go wrong have to go right.

I had my thyroid levels checked last Fri and am still waiting for the results but in the interim the consultant has upped my dose to 75mcg. I've felt the odd twinge in my neck so decided to bite into an extra half a tablet just in case. It turns out that that was what he prescribed anyway (an extra 25mcg that is, not munching tablets and making a crumby mess, obviously. That would've been most unprofessional of him) FF also tells me that a foetus doesn't start producing it's own thyroid hormones until week 14 so I feel that that is a bit of a marker for me. However, getting to Fri of this week with increasing levels of HCG would enough for this week.

I won't twitter away anymore tonight, sorry for no more name-checking. I was ill on Fri eve (sickness virus) and DH has just come home and said he feels sick and I can now here him wretching upstairs? oh dear. I'm not very good with sick!

Izzy just to say that I didn't get doppler at 16 weeks because ob gave up after 1 try and said it would be impossible with twins so I got ultrasound instead. Far better as I'd been panicking they'd died again for 2 weeks before.

What rubbish! Has she never heard of a mmc? Sure everything may change the next day in which case why bother scanning anyone at all? Much cheaper and just the way they used to do it. Find out you have twins when they come out. Either you follow a system properly or you don't. A mixture is just rubbish.

Although it is a pain being under consultant care at least I'm spared some of the idiocies of mws (drs do quite well at this sometimes though).

jolls so sorry love. Really hope it's not what you think xx

aandr I think over 30 indicates ovulatory cycle, but I'm not sure what sort of levels are "good".

jolls hope you're ok, lovely x

Welcome to melies - sorry you're here, and I hope you get your bfp soon.

how's life in-house? I hear it's generally a better lifestyle choice than private practice. I've been fairly lucky with mine; moved out to the south west as nq after training at a City firm, so not as stressful, then after I'd had ds I left altogether when I couldn't get the part-time hours I wanted. By sheer chance, a few months later the firm won a big contact and didn't have the resources to do the work so my boss rang me and said I could have what hours I wanted if I went back - hence the 14.5 hours per week . There is no way I'd get those hours anywhere now!!

I have to say while I don't envy you all the hanging around at hospitals for consultant appointments, it must be nice psychologically to feel like everyone's doing the best they can for you. My mws are nice enough, but I just feel like I'm getting nothing from them - paying for all my own scans and now doing my own Doppler-ing!! And their logic makes no sense whatsoever. However I am not going to stress I do feel v strongly about the Doppler issue though so I am going to ask whether it's a local policy and if so write to the appropriate person to complain; thought that might make me feel like I'm doing something constructive at least!!

yrmotb how're you doing? Still getting to the gym?

just remembered something on prog someone told me on here, so have no idea how accurate it is, but they were told (as has already been mentioned) that 30+ is indicative of ovulation, but the clinic she was seeing said they liked to see a level of 60+ to maintain a pregnancy, hence why nearly all fertility clinics prescribe progesterone after treatment...

Jolls I really hope it's not what you think it is. Thinking of you x

jolls I've read that as well somewhere. Although I think I had my dates wrong as af turned up yesterday. I think my cycle started when I spotted last cycle, 3 days before full bleed (a WTF af after mc). It ties in with ewcm so I think I tested at 10dpo not 7 so hopefully it was already dropping. Still think I will try to get progesterone for next time. How are you doing over there?

It is so interesting to see how everyone does the whole work thing post DCs. Sounds like a great deal izzy I feel like I am having a smorgasbord career at the mo. I was a bit of a career girl pre-dd1, I tried a 4 day week but it was just wrong for me, I was ready to become a SAHM but my client asked me what I could do and since I had been happily dreaming of baking cakes and having picnics with dd I was very specific and sparing with my time and surprisingly he went for it, at the time of first mc the project finished up and I spent 3 months with DDs and sorting house planning vaguely looking for work - it was hard as the family cash-flow was pretty tight, I then did a profit share fixed price completely from home role which was very interesting but patchy and am now doing full-time for a 3 month contract - juggling a ridiculous schedule to fit it all in - great to sort some bills out and amazing to be able to focus on work properly but I miss the girls - I wonder if there is any balance which really works - I have to say I sometimes feel a bit when I think of dh's career which has gone from strength to strength with barely a thought required about balancing family/work etc!

Thanks wiggle the house is very exciting. I can't believe we will get to live there. It is very nerve wrecking trying to find a way to fund it and find people to build it for our very tight cost plan - requires a bit of imagination!! My DParents are certain it is part of the reason why we keep mcing - they may be right!

Hmm that was a bit of a waffle!! Waves to all - must sleep!

jollster sorry to hear about your cp. :(

AandR I work 25 hours a week, which is 2 12.5 hour shifts, I mostly do nights so that dd only needs to do 2 mornings in nursery. There's arguments at work at the moment though because they want to take our paid breaks away, so every shift we'll 'owe' them half an hour, the idea being that when you've accrued enough hours we'll need to work an extra shift. I'm really not keen on that idea, so I intend to ask if I can just drop an hour a week but I've been told no so I'm looking into union involvement at the moment because the trust always harp on about being family friendly and flexible and it's just all talk! Where is your house being bulit, sounds lovely!

izzy you can get the NICE guidelines for antenatal care online, it lists what visits you are entitled too and what the midwife should be doing at them. They do dopplers here at 16 weeks, I remember her mentioning it at the appointment I had before my mc. My bugbear is that here we don't get nuchal scans.

How were you bloods wiggle?

Hello to everyone x

Hi Izzy - in house is great. I work full time still but most of the time can leave my work in the office and tend to leave between 5.30 and 6. Also they seem much more open to flexible working and working from home than I ever found private practice to be. Saying which you have to pick the place carefully. I was seconded to another type of company while in private practice and although the hours were generally better there was still a lot of being bothered on evenings and weekends and the attitude to flexible working was just as archaic/resistant.

AandR yours sounds tough. I took a month of parental leave at the end of my last job partly because ds was starting school and I really wanted to be there but also because I was sick of my job and wanted to try an alternative to see if SAHM would work for me in the long run. The answer to that was no.

On the dr front I know it's nice to always have something to look forward to in terms of appointments (and even to arrange sooner ones if really worried) but a lot of the time they either don't reassure me on the things I need reassurance on or attack me for not having tight enough control and make me feel that I am going to kill or damage the babies. Also since this is the 3rd time I've done it I know there are certain tests they should really have done now which they haven't arranged from sheer incompetence which are concerning me a bit. It's more to do with my health than the babies but it's still concerning. Whatever we get is never ideal....

Hi everyone,

sorry for the absence - I've been dragged away from MN by real life busyness. DS has been rather quickly deposited in nursery school - and I am relieved to say is loving it. He cried buckets when me and DH went to pick him up after his first day yesterday - he wanted to stay there longer!

He is there everyday until 12pm which gives me just about enough time to race through most of my days translation work undisturbed and then teach a bit in the afternoons. It feels like I might well have a work/life balance that I like (unless next baby comes along and then it will no doubt be chaos again!)

I've just skim read to catch up - but Jolls whats going on? Is it definitely a cp? I really hope not.

AandR I think I had an undeserved reputation for all things test related - I have had more than my fair share but I have never had my progesterone tested. I can tell you though that many doctors over here prescribe it routinely for pregnancies in a woman over 30 (!) It is just believed to "work" even though the jury is still out trial wise (it has been used and studied since the 1950's though so you would think they would have a definitive answer by now!)

hello mellies welcome to the lucky thread - I was on the TTC after mc for months - hopped over here and got pregnant the next cycle (actually that is a bit flippant - it did take surgery and weeks of hormone therapy and tests first!)