The 6th form post mc ttc and pregnancy common room Part 2

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Getting us started on a new thread; this one is gonna be a lucky one!

This is very annoying no AF, tested again BFN yesterday - literally can't be arsed this morning so have peed my FMU away and am now like a bear with a sore head...might also have something to do with my work farewell drinks yesterday evening.
I was hoping to have definitive answer by yesterday so I could know whether I should be drinking or not, but no, body is not co-operating.
I know it's most likely the stress of the move either delaying or stopping ov completely but my god is it frustrating waiting to know for sure..I'm banging my head against the wall wondering why I didn't temp, then at least I'd have an idea what to expect when.
GAHHHHHHH

Thing is, I don't feel anything now. I feel for all the world like I've had my period and am back at the beginning of my cycle. Maybe that's what an anovulatory cycle feels like? you go through all the symptoms but just don't get the bleed?..digi I think you've seen this on your charts previously...what happened for you?

Maybe tomorrow I should take a waking temp and see what range it's in, I did work out my average pre and post ov temps a while ago.

bee can sense and share your frustration :(

Suspect you are right and the major stress you are living through is messing your system a bit?

bee I know in TCOYF - it does say that stress ( such as a house move) can delay ovulation but should not really skip it entirley. So it might be that you ovulated late and so will be a few daysl ate coming on or (even better) get a BFP?
jolls don't envy that big suitcase slap coming your way :) -I am hopeful for you- I really really hope this is your month xx

big squish to mouse and BBB for scans today xxx

News from hen coop - felt well enough to go to work today, no spotting. On way to work felt a bit 'damp' - had a rummage whilst overtaking a big truck to find I had started spotting. Saw my Dr and he has signed me off until at least my scan so I am installed on the sofa with a family bag of doritos the cat and the remote. I am of course going out of my mind with worry. I have had no spotting since but am going to the loo 3- 4times an hour. I will go mad at this rate !

sigh. Yes, I know..it's the most likely explanation. I wish I could still hold out hope for a BFP but we really only had sex twice and as the days go by the possibility that the swimmers would have survived to fertilize a late egg is decreasing. Aye well, I did say that this month wasn't really about ttc it was just about getting the move done and dusted. It's just that the being late managed to provoke all that optimism that the BFNs crush, it's painful. And I do feel annoyed at myself for not being more proactive about continuing with SWI, it's not a good habit we've got into for lots of reasons but now especially it means there's definitely no chance. sigh again.

jolls sorry about the limbo for you too - did you have spotting like this last cycle? I really hope you get good news, I know how disheartening it is when you're in the second half of a year's trying. Sorry if this is too nosy, but have you been back to your GP for recent hormone profile? Us over 35s should be seen after 6 months no luck just to check. Is it something you're thinking about or done?

Really really hope your spotting settles down battery - must be worrying but I do think it is most likely to be normal early pg embedding stuff? Are you injecting and on aspirin? I wonder whether that's making the bleeding more likely?

I'd better go get my boy something to eat - he's doing so well with a distracted mum, entertaining himself. I can't wait for this to all be over so I don't have to ration myself between him, willing the computer to tell me if I'm pg or not, and sifting through drawers and cupboards.

Happy Wednesday everyone

ladybee I know exactly what you mean and have had exactly the same thing - repeated BFN's & AF eventually turned up a week late - last cycle for me was pretty hectic so must have thrown ov all over the place - and I haven't had nearly as much going on as you. I've moved country 3 times since 2004 - it does have much more of an effect than you would think. Also had an anovulatory cycle (I think) in Feb - check ur temp tomorrow and that should give you an idea - mine remained at pre ov levels throughout that cycle, and it was on the long side. Haven't checked with Dr Google as to poss cause of anovulatory cycle as suspect this will cause unnecessary panic on my part - I'm 37 so occasionally is normal....
Good luck with it all - and don't forget to give some time to YOU to settle in/recuperate etc as well as everyone else :)
to everyone else xx

Glad to hear you've got your feet up, battery. Not too long til Friday now. I have all my fingers crossed, I am sure it's just getting comfy, but I know it must be terrifying.

ladybee You really are snowed under at the moment aren't you? The end is in sight regards the move, and I hope that as soon as you get there you'll get a lovely BFP. You could try a sneaky temp tomorrow, if still no sign though, perhaps? I don't really know what else to suggest. Bloody hormones.

also lurking for news of scanners and POASers :)

News from me my HCG came back as 14,778 - taken yesterday at 5+3. I am going to have another tomorrow. One alone doesn't really tell you much but my Dr said I should be reassured by that result.

Come on people - post news!!! I am bored and home alone!

Hello all, apologies for not popping in earlier, have had v busy afternoon at work.

battery sorry there's been a little more spotting but glad to hear GP has signed you off and it's subsided, I'm pretty sure that those numbers look very reassuring and if your GP says that then I would certainly take some comfort from that. Sure the spotting is just batterybean snuggling in for the ride.

bee pants that you're still in limbo land. I would imagine that the amount of pressure you're under at the mo can't be helping at all. Hopefully once the move is over then things will settle down again for you. In the meantime heres a massive hug and some cake to help you relax some x

mouse how did you get on? X

So, the scan, I was astounded to have seen a bean with a strong heartbeat measuring 7+6, which puts me a week and 3 days further forward than I thought! It was bizarre and I think I'm still in shock! I was utterly convinced that it was game over as I woke up this morning with completely deflated boobs and had pink tinged cm last night. It's all real and hasnt quite sunk in. I also seem to now have feelings of sheer panic and I'm wondering if this is what I really want! I'm guessing it's my hormones playing silly buggers.

Hope everyone else ok. Loves to all and a special love to jolls for tomorrow xxx

bbb fantastic news :) So so so pleased. A whole week and 3 days ahead?! That is just fabulous and so well deserved :) x

Yaaaaay!!! That's great news bbb I'm thrilled for you

Good news here also - uterus is finally clear!! Hurrah!

The consultant said my lining was thin, about 5-6mm and that there were no folicles developing/developed so it looks like I'm in for a bit of a wait for ovulation yet, nevermind AF. Thanks for those questions mummya - I thought of you in the scan room!

I feel like I'm still in limbo (and will until my cycle returns) but at least it's a little step forward.

She also recommended I wait 2, maybe 3 cycles to ensure everything was back to normal and said that when I get to 7 or 8 weeks in my next pregnancy I can ring her for an early scan. That was totally unexpected and I'm v grateful for that. She said just to ring her secretary.

The downside is that I now need to go and have a conversation with my boss tomorrow to discuss going back to work on Monday....dooooooom!!

Right, day 53 in the mousey household and still no sign of AF....

Brilliant news mouse, now you can finally start looking forwards. Also excellent about the offer of an early scan for next time. Back to checking that CM then? How long have you been off work? Good luck for the boss chat, I know how daunting that is x

That's brilliant news BBB so happy for you. What a relief

Battery that does also sound positive (the hcg levels), your GP sounds sympathetic - that's good. Here have our humax box loaded with shite TV to keep you distracted until Friday scan.

Mouse how did it go today?

Fingers crossed for you Jolls you are very strong

Ladybee sorry about the limbo land at the moment as if you don't have enough to deal with.

AandR does that mean you got the job then?

DH is away at the moment and the house is tip, it's going to take me all night to tidy up so sorry for not namechecking everyone else.

Big waves to all

x posts Mouse hurrah for more good scan news

Hi all, not got much time so just a quick one.

battery FAB numbers!!! Yes, one alone can tell you a lot - when they numbers get that high it is a great sign!! remember the whole doubling thing only really applies to the very early days numbers (in the hundreds) you are already in the 10's of thousands brill!!! (twins???) After 6000, it will take over 96 hours to double (basically you just need the next number to be bigger, so dont worry about calculations)

BBB fantastic!!! so glad you had a lovely scan

mouse hooray for a clear uterus!!! In my non medical opinion, I think that is a good lining measurement too - its basically already at the level mine was at mid cycle - and you are no where near mid cycle yet so it will most likely be huge and fluffy and bean ready by then! Best of luck with the boss.

ladyB sorry you are in limbo land - hope you get answer soon!

What do you think?

Thanks for the lining info mummya v interesting indeed... 2 or 3 cycles could mean christmas for me though. Grr....

ladybee hope you get an answer soon and hope your leaving do was good.

battery those levels are amazing have you met

jolls good luck - fingers crossed for you

freezing thank you

aandr any job news?

spilt lovely to see you, hows that bump?

waves to all xx

yay for bbb and mouse for lovely news

How is everyone else in here doing?

I'm still full of hope for jolls and bee

Yay for mouse and bbb's good scans and another for battery's hcg levels - I know you're still going to be panicking until Friday (and probably beyond!) but those numbers do look good!

jolls and bee I am keeping my suspenders firmly on for you...not v comfy though so would be nice to get those bfps soon . Seriously though I know it's awful being in limbo so hope you get an answer soon, and will be keeping my fx it's the one you want.

Hospital ante natal clinic mgr rang me today to say I had got a consultant appt. At 20 weeks Given that we'll be passed my previous danger point by then I'm not sure there's any point to it, may cancel if we get that far but will wait to see how nuchal goes first. Anyway it looks like we're on our own until 20 weeks so I think we need to think about what scans etc we need and are prepared to pay for.

bbb fantastic news! Maybe I'll spot you on the antenatal side one day (if you get wednesday consultant appointments).

mouse glad to hear one uncertainty has cleared up. Have the union been any use? Can they support you in a meeting?

mouse Did the consultant give any reason why your particular case merited waiting three cycles? I know that in general this is information that used to be given to all ladies who mc'd but was revoked last year after a BMJ contradicted previous WHO guidelines article here

seems odd that you are being asked to wait without any special treatment or monitoring. I could understand it if they suspected a particular problem and wanted to monitor it or provided treatment for it first - but waiting for waitings sake seems a bit old fashioned.

I totally support the wait for first AF approach - having learnt the hard way that not waiting can mean you can miss post mc complications - but more than one cycle seems a bit pointless.

I think you did say before that you had long cycles, is it anything to do with that? if so has she suggested a special diet or medication or anything?

thanks for the progesterone levels - very useful

Yay yay and double yay for beating heart BBB - that alone yanks you up the beat those statistics ranks and 1w 3d leap forward is just wonderful. Would also explain your 2-3w pee stick.

battery those hcg levels are great - stay resting and liners - makes nicker checking faster!

LadyB limbo land sucks

mouse glad your scan was useful and good to not have to spend every day wondering when af will arrive. Do you get another scan to see how it is getting on?

Izzy put yourself on the cancellation list and have a wobbly on the phone - what a joke with the 20weeks.

I went to the doctors yesterday - she is very sympathetic and is helping to chase consultants down the endo etc. She recommended Crossways for the counselling, I am getting a breast scan for pain there (pretty sure hormonal), and she is happy to push consultants to get me' what I need once pregnant again but neither of us is sure what that is since nothing picked up yet - for those using progesterone - is that just precautionary measure or is it due to low progesterone? I get mine tested today - I also head off to the naturopath today. So hopefully things will come under control soon!

I did get the job - I am bricking it as I said I can squeeze in full-time but as it is a 3 month contract I don't want to introduce a whole new level of childcare - so I am begging dh, nursery and Grandads to step into the breach. No idea how I will do it but the cash-flow will pay the architects and other professionals working on the house. I think I will take August off and collapse in a little puddle!!!

Thanks for all the sympathy and optimism ladies
Took my waking temp this morning and it was 36.25 which is spot on for my average pre-ov and under my usual cover line of around 36.35, so either I've not ov-ed or I've dipped down again and AF should be on her way shortly. Fingers crossed for the latter if only to get it out the way before the longhaul flight I reckon you take a suspender off for me, but leave one on for Jolls.

Had a bit of a cry this morning - suddenly just feel v overwhelmed and upset at body 'not working', so I think I was a bit more stressed than I thought I was. I did think, 'gosh I've been much more anxious and stressed when at work' but I do tend to suppress and suppress and just get on with things and then fall over. So I guess my body having a hissy fit is really a normal response and not Not Working after all.

battery that's a big number! I hope the next one is as reassuring

BBB gosh, that's a big difference forward, so much better to be that way than behind, I wonder whether it will equal out in later scans? Congratulations and soooooooooooooo much good luck it needs to be boxed and stacked out the back

Mouse well a clear scan is at least a start, I hope it doesn't take too long for the rest of your cycle to kick back into place. And great to be offered the early scan for next time around. Hope work conversations aren't too stressful, and that your return can be eased in.

Izzy sorry you're not being given the support you deserve for this pg, it's so frustrating to see women who have lost and struggled so much already STILL struggling when they reach the next step. I think you're right to book in private one(s) where you feel you need them.

AandR that sounds like a positive and sympathetic GP appt, I hope it helps you to feel like you're taking some steps forward. Abt the progesterone, for me I've had it prescribed for my next pg (ha!) because when I had my last test it happened to coincide with the cycle I got pregnant most recently. My day 21 result on a pregnant cycle was just 30, which is just 'ok' for indicating ovulation occurred (well, obviously) but my consultant admitted that it was on the low side for a pregnancy and that it might be worth supplementing next time around. I suspect he was doing that 'can't hurt, might help' thing, as this was all discussed an hour after the scan showing no heartbeat and he was clearly shaken that this pg had failed as well. Now I've got the prescription I do feel happier, as many of the ladies on the recurrent MC testing thread had successful pgs after getting progesterone along with any anti-coag therapy they needed.

I've just realised that our internet will be disappearing on Friday, although will hopefully still be able to read on my phone won't be able to post much after that...so will disappear for a week or so.