Feisty Fabulous Forty somethings - part 2

[Curlylox]

woohoo over here

ok, I hear you, I am also done with soup. You have a choice -

1. Well-toasted crumpets with jam
2. fish pie with gnocchi
3. ermm, that's about it
4. TO drink: fizzy water mixed with grapefruit juice.

I promise I am out there reading and normal service will resume shortly. All is well, though have given up on epu and will be booking provate scan for a weeks time or so. Hippy I will entrust you with any off-menu bistro requests. Just make sure you shut the fridge door properly in case the whiff of Italians much requested (oft late) paella escapes. LOts of love to all xx

have also been on bathroom floor most of the day
we are all horribly sick :( :(
both ends :( :( :(

DS on mend, but me and DP feel horrid - off to bed.

so no order from the Bistro for me, except another bottle of lucozade for me to sip slowly...

back when less pooey...

jolls sorry you've all been ill. get a good rest and sooner or later (hopefully sooner) the nasty bug will pass through you all. Extra hugs for little jolls ((()))

diege Well I'll give it my best shot - what was I meant to shut again??? Looking forward to news of your scan soon.

DH doesn't like 2 of the photos from today so we have to get the man back to re-take. They are fine and they do make the house look lovely (i think) but DH is a bit of a stickler for detail [arrghhhh face] Still the ball is most definitely rolling.

Headlice have come to visit the Hippy House (DS2 sits near a girl who is ALWAYS scratching her head) so boys have gloop on their heads. DS2 has a LOT of hair (wide not long). My DS2 is 8 tomorrow. How did my baby get so big - note to self: have another one!!!

ps. yes I will wash the gloop off before any photos are taken.

pps. italian do you want this bloody paella, yes or no????

ppppps. for some reason I can't stop scratching my bloody head now (despite the comb saying I am all clear) how 'bout you???

Hippy at least it's better than being scratchy 'down there'. Lou did that sort itself out?

Thanks, everyone, for cheering me up and making me laugh. Isaboo I'm going to have a glass of whatever it was you were having when you posted. It can't fail to do the trick You're all right. It is those * hormones. I thought that I could sail through an MC and as soon as my period came I crumbled. And dp is so knackered from work (we have the same job) that he doesn't want to know. He's avoiding me so that he doesn't have to talk about it.

Gum I'm so sorry about your dh's reaction. Just the last thing you want him to say. Keep focused on what you are trying to do, though. Sometimes those bloomin' men don't 'get it' until it's a done deal. My ex didn't want to try for either of the boys. I fought, sulked, screamed, sulked. He relented, reluctantly. Then he was absolutely overjoyed when they arrived. He still is delighted he had them. Go figure.

Brin fingers crossed for your next scan. You must be on tenterhooks. We're all wishing you and the baby well.

Curly I'm on CD 3 now. And counting. Beattie I'm heading towards ridiculously optimistic. I know just what you mean.

I've just watched Embarrasing Bodies - and ladies keeping diaries of their menstrual cycle in mooncups. EWwww. It made me realise how different everyone is. One poor girl was losing a bucketful every day. And another was so poorly with PMS she was having a hysterectomy. We're positively blooming in comparison! I can't afford the reflexologist but I've given my feet a massage and am hoping my ovaries got tweaked. Let's all think very positive baby thoughts this month. Ommmmm Ommmmmm

Lol, you have really cheered me up.

Geez, I am glad I don't lose a bucketful - wouldn't you feel dreadful? I worry that my AF isn't heavy enough, but I did get pregnant, and carried for 8 weeks, so I don't think it is a lining issue (any thoughts appreciated). Also would I have low progesterone if my lining wasn't thick enough? I think my prog is fine to, judging by temperature rise and L.P length. Wish I'd stop 2nd guessing it all.

Jolls, you poor thing - that sounds awful. I hope you are on the mend again really soon.

Hippy, I feel for you.We've had our fair share of the little critters in this household! My DD2 suffers from anxiety, and when she has head lice it really escalates, so I'm always vigilantly checking her head for crawlers. Thankfully, she hasn't had them for a while.

It helps to know I'm not the only one with a reluctant partner in the ttc department. Unless he gives me an ultimatum and puts his foot down and says absolutely not, I will continue on my quest! It always seems like shit on the day before or day of AF. So to protect myself from those sorts of comments I should probably just shut-up. He was totally reluctant about Charlie, it took three years for him to come round (wish it hadn't taken so long, then I wouldn't be so bloody ancient, ttc now). But he did come round and even had surgery to reverse the vasectomy, so I know he's made huge sacrifices. That's why there's some guilt on my part too. I know some would think I should just be grateful with my lot, and though it sounds contradictory, what with me trying so hard for another, I am very grateful for what I have. But I have seen him with the baby he didn't really want, and he loves him deeply, enjoys his company and shares the joy(and I know he isn't faking it). So I reason that he will be the same with another baby.

It's selfish, I know, but it is also something that I feel so strongly about, it really is a matter of the heart.

OMG, sorry about the rant. I'll shut up now.

Lol, I'm thinking about trying reflexology too. Hippy, can you tell where I should massage the right bits on my feet? I will go to a real reflexologist, but in the meantime I could rub my own feet.

Also thinking positive thoughts and chanting...OMMMMMM

Jolls get well soon lovely lady.

Brinjal really hope all will be OK and that things will progress as they should.

Mitzimaybe yes, take the advice and take the two weeks off work. I think it is best to get yourself through this by being nice to yourself and resting and coming to terms with it.

minmooch thank you for sharing, thinking of you.

Hairy lovely to see you again but sorry that you have not yet got what I so much hope for you. Hope the appointment goes well on Tuesday and points you in the right way.

Lol don't blame you being pissed off about hols situation!

Sorry gum don't know what to recommend. Trouble is that if you are telling your DH how sad you feel about the loss then in a way it is understandable that he is not so keen to try again. Men don't always feel the same way as we do! My DH is happy with just one and it has been a bit of struggle for him to agree to thousands of pounds worth of treatment and for us to keep going over all this time. I know if we had not kept going I would feel sad, very sad, but I hope that there is an end in sight for me. It's up to each individual, no one can really tell you what to do, it has to be our own decision about something so major. I guess I just wanted to say that although it is hard your DH sounds lovely and he seems to really care about how you are feeling so although he may not be saying or doing what you want him to I don't think it for any negative reasons - if you see what I mean!

Hippy ouch, nits, [scratching icon] hope they all go, along with the estate agents and your hubby gets the correct Van Gough view of the house! I hear windolene is good for smeary windows! Put some elbow grease into it!

lou hamster is the joy of my life! He is such a character I almost think he is tiny furry human!

Watching Supersize verses superskinny on on demand www.channel4.com/programmes/supersize-vs-superskinny-kids/4od/player/3173284

here It's all quite dramatic and sad, I feel very sorry for the kids and the mums, I can so easily see how parents can make these mistakes. We've had a few problems with DD's behaviour but we have now had a visit from someone connected to the school (although she is perfect at school and at friends, she saves her naughty behaviour for us at home!). These programmes are so good; I think they present the problems in a really human way. I have a friend who has struggled with anorexia, and it is just painful watching them eat! The poor guy in one episode is still struggling with anorexia but another episode has a young girl who has won an award for encouraging suffers as she has recovered from anorexia. One thing they did, which looked great, was a blind food test for encouraging kids to try new food. My DD is pretty fussy about food but loves doing the taste test so I think we will try that!

I'm feeling good, really coming to terms with the fact we may not have any more children but still looking forward to one more attempt (in May apparently). Work is going well and despite our ups and downs DD is enough for me so if she is the only one so be it! Feeling positive.

Love and hugs to all.

Did not order anything in the bistro because I went to a REAL restaurant in REAL life and ate spicy prawns, garlic bread, salmon pasta and chocolate cake! Yum!

feeling much better, if a bit wobbly - thanks for all your kind wishes.

brinjal sorry to hear your scan was a bit inconclusive, are you sure about your dates? And as you say a HB has to be good news - hope the next 2 weeks fly by for you.

BB have a fab holiday - look after yourself and don't waste the HPT too early!

hippy sorry to hear about your new friends; I've noticed DS scratching his head and I've dived on him to have a peek in his mop, but haven't spotted anything yet. ROFL at your DH getting photos re-done, even I wouldn't have done that and I'm a control freak attention to detail monster!!! Vinegar's good on smeary glass btw?

gum, your posts make me sad as I can feel your pain at reconciling your urges and your DH wishes. Such a terribly difficult situation. Massive special squeeze for you all.

I hear squirting coming from the rear end of DS - must go and change yet another stinky nappy... back later. ...

Hi. Well I'm suitably hungover but feeling better. Thank you for your messages Beattiebow and hippy, particularly, I can now see the funny side of poas and af arriving!

Having done the temp charting and opks I think I'll go all out and do everything this month, bring on the shagging. Hope I don't run out of steam before ov day though.

Lovely day, hope you're all enjoying it.
Love to the pregger ladies.

brinjan So sorry I was banging on about nits and you had a real concern. Sorry for being so short-sighted there. I agree that a heartbeat seems like a good sign and surely you wouldn't see that at 5 weeks.

I had a scan when I was meant to be 6 +3 and they could only see a small probably empty sac which measured the size of a 4-5 week and that unfortunately didn't go well. I know that sounds like a negative comment, but what I'm trying to say is that a heartbeat and a foetus is a really good sign. I was told to come back in 2 weeks as well and that is an absolute nightmare. I feel for you having to wait but hope you are rewarded for your patience.

thought you might all need a giggle... so it was CD14 yesterday for me, and after SWI on 8/10/12 (literally about 3 hours before I started being sick - do you think it's the world's earliest ever episode of morning sickness ) thought maybe we should complete this month's entry (as it were) with a last effort...

DP only comes back from the building site new house-to-be having been a bit casual jumping around the joists (no floors or stairs in the house at the moment) and had slipped on a not fully fixed one, slipped between two, fortunately grabbed at one before falling to more serious injury... but he's only gone and cracked a rib, so ends up at A&E instead of any SWI...

h hahahhahahhahah ...

hope everyone else doing ok today... I lost 2 hours this morning as DS managed to wake at 5.20 (old time) rather than 6.20 IYSWIM... but I have done my civic duty and done the census this morning. So feeling virtuous. But knackered :).

oh jolls, I admit, I did giggle, but then thought perhaps that was hysterical laughter from you? DO you know if/when you ovulate? Do you reckon he'd be up for it if he didn't have to move much?

I'm glad to hear the injuries weren't worse, but I do think cracked ribs hurt a lot. My Dh did it whilst playing drunken football - so I had very little sympathy - but he was uncomfortable for about 6 weeks.

Well done for getting the census done.

My DS is sitting in the middle of the dining table putting pencils in his milk.Time to go.

Jolls he still has to go for the swi. It's da rules. You're going to have to get creative. Broken ribs and nausea. What a combo. Good luck...

Italian you are so chilled. It sounds like a good place to be at the moment. And you actually had time to go on a real night out.

Gum it does sound like your dh is on your side, what with the reversal etc. No feeling guilty. You sound like you're loved and you're entitled to be.

Am finishing mammoth GCSE marking task. It's going to be an all-nighter, I think. My favourite line so far is, 'Stagecraft was something Shakespeare really needed to get correct, so he set Romeo and Juliet in Edwardian times and has done really well.'

Better go and graze the grindstone. Love to all. I may be some time.

Jolls, cracked rib... Hmmm reminds me of my skiing holiday last April, and guess what happened 9 months later... I hope you've got some good strong painkillers for him, your nausea has gone, and here's hoping for some lovely good news in 2 weeks (& 9 months) time

Ha Alba - funny I could remember something about a cracked rib but not the details. If it had been me that cracked the rib we might have been green light for go, but in that it was a man, it's like a ribcage transplant is the only way forward.... Never mind, still feeling grotty, and DS has awful diarrhoea so am really not in a romantic mood anyhow. It's an odd state this realigned expectation gives you, I don't really expect to get pg now, so the pressure's off a bit .

Hope everyone's doing ok. Bit grey and misty on the coast today, where's Mr Sunshine gone?

Hello all. I am a bit pissed off today. I managed to get to day 26 with no spotting and still had tingly boobs, so I tested this morning and allowed myself to get hopeful - bloody bloody fucking BFN. one solitary line. I don't know exactly when I ovulated cos I missed the smiley face so am a teeny tiny bit hopeful that I'm still in with a chance but I did have pains on day 14 which would make me 12 days post ov and so surely not too early to test. Arrgghhh - why do I even allow myself to think these stupid thoughts.

Anyway still no spotting so will have to wait and see. Estate Agent back to take more photos today (have done even more de-cluttering). So will focus on that instead. Love to all. jolls sorry to hear about your Dh. I remember alba's cracked rib (I think she did it whilst SWI not whilst actually skiing )

hippy we know it's not over till the red lady shows. Fingers well and truly crossed for you.

jolls What crap timing err, I mean, how awful for your dh :) The image tou painted was amusing I have to say but I'm with you on ribcage transplant, when dh cracked ribs at football, he was a bloody nightmare in a lot of pain I recall.

gum I feel for you, I have been where you are now and it's tough. Stick in there, Hugs to you.

So I am still bloody pregnant, but having show today so thats good. Hopefully things will move along in next few days and I'll be able to inspire you with my ancient, decrepit body actuially being able to give birth story :)

Hi to everyone, Have a lovely day.

Hi all! Sorry about BFN Hippy, but I wouldn't lose hope yet. As regards ovulation pain, I usually get this 2 or 3 days BEFORE a temp rise, so you may well be a few days ahead (in your mind) of where your body is at. I know it's not much compensation if it is really a bfn this month, but you do seem to have a decent Lp which I think is half the battle. I really, really hope it's your month, if not this one, then very soon xxx
Jolls agree totally about ribcage transplant ; oh and maybe he should write an inspiring book about it too. Dh has done his knee in here, swinging some hammer of sorts on the railings and can hardly function, but then I only need him to do food related things at the moment
lol I love you pupil's take on Shakespeare ; I'm sure he would be flattered by the (faint) praise.
Lia very exciting! Keep us informed please!
Feeling brighter here as the sickness seems to have settled into a pattern of being ok in the mornings (after the initial bile run), before becoming pretty awful 4pm ish onwards. I can deal with that. The tablets keep a lid on things (literally) and have been a lifesaves. Not sure who asked (Italian?), but yes, they are def a last resort. Have in previous pregnancies tried acupuncture (3 sessions a week) with absolutely zero effect (had to rush to be sick during one session), homeopathy, sea-sickness bands, CDs that are said to block signals for nausea in the brain (I have never been more sick after listening to it, which suggests it does have some effect, just that my brain is wired wrong ), some aromatherapy sniffer thing , preggy pops (are they having a laugh?), ginger capsules, etc etc....
Final attempt today at securing an NHS early scan...if I don't get a response from the nurse I will book a private scan and then contact the mw if all well.
Hope everyone is ok - Mr Sunshine has also disappeared here - very foggy and cold.

Oh hippy, arsicles is all I can say. The emotional side of it is just awful :(. But no evil RTD yet, maybe a shy one?

diege glad you are feeling brighter, or maybe just getting used to feeling so rubbish!? Keep us posted on the scan.

lol I missed the WS classic - what a corker!!

lia not long to go now - get on with it woman, do you want some of this brie or not...?

CD16 here, and I think I may have oved on CD10 or 11 (just a feeling). Today I have lots of brown CM... now we know implantation bleeding is just a myth (also this would be a bit early). So do you think my progesterone is now really low and hence I am spotting brown? Or just as I've been ill my body has totally given up on me and is chucking out all the waste matter it can find... that's a sick face not a jealous one ...

Jolls, I would say actually that your spotting is pretty spot-on time wise for implantation, so may indeed be a good sign

Oh Jolls big FX for uXXXXX
Hippy ((())) as we say it ain t over yet.Here's hoping X
Lia haven t you had that baby yet???????You going for the record "world's longest prenancy!!!!"
Diege good luck on a scan date.Glad nausea is subsiding slightly.
Lol u ok?Hi Gum u ok?
Hi Italian,Curly,shandy,panashe,Isaboo and BB
Hope all are well?
Feel really naseaus and tired over the weekend.Had my pregnanyl this am now at work and oh god, it's dragging!!!!!!!!!!! Incredibly quiet here a bit like the calm before the storm!!!!!

Love to all XXXX

Arghh well have finally had the call-back from the EPU and they have arranged an scan for 10am this Thursday. To say I am terrified is an understatement. However, being rational if there is a problem, that problem will be there whether I opt for an early scan or not, and at least I will be at the hospital where I can chat through options (as opposed say to private scan place). I will be going on my own I think, straight after school run as dh is working away, but am probably better that way.

diege you will not be going on yor own, honey-pie. I will be there 'virtually' holding your hand - worked a treat at lou's scan Everything crossed.

Where is that panashe??? Off in a corner with italian planning her wedding -no doubt.

I wonder if BB is having a good time in Vietnam (na-na-na-na- 19) showing my age there.

Well still no spotting and still tingly sore boobs so am hoping I just tested too early - no harm in being positive (for a while at least).

Much love to all of you lovely ladies.

ps. THERE IS A 'FOR SALE' SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE

la lalallalala diege can't hear you... Great news on scan, as the gorgeous hippyhippyshakechick says, we'll be with you x

hippster you are selling your house...? You kept that quiet...? Have all FX on the you know what.

lou glad you're feeling awful. IYKWIM. .

have horrid diarrhoea today... a symptom of the horrid bug the house has had of course.

Thanks girls! Does help to know that there's somene to report back to after the scan, as hardly anyone in rl knows!
Jolls sorry for diareahh (sp?), although does this mean the bug is (literally) on its way out? I'll keep quiet about the IMPLANTATION BLEED then
Hipps woo-hoo for the For Sale sign. Do you have an ideas as to where it might be that you move? Do you fancy anywhere in particular?
I am going to brave putting out the washing now. One thing I am getting with the sickness is extreme sensitivity to the cold - by bedtime I am literally shivering, however warm it is in the house. Very odd I know.