Freak out room for those newly updiffed after MC to hold hands and support each other...

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Hello!

Newly updiffed and freaking out about spotting, cramping, the wait until your first scan and each little twinge? Settle in for lots of hand holding and supprt until you're ready to move to grads

dachs dont understand the sad face for having one in there....? One is better than none no?!

it is indeed nix but I thought I'd already used too many smily faces

:) can never use too many smilies :) :) :)

i thought the sickness was supposed to bugger off at 12 weeks?!?! Not that i mind.. i keep dreaming about MMC so its a touch reassuring :)

HKB whoop whoop! Fabulous news on the tiny bean :) :)

Good luck Wombat :)

Oh well done owl (for the reminder!) good luck wombat am sure it will all go fine xx

Ok, time for a proper catch-up after a manic weekend... relatives visiting!

Far too much piss talk this weekend I think! Laughing my socks off at Pink and Owl failing to aim properly in to the pot, and practically falling off chair at wombie's smelly wee drawer!

Digi - know what you mean about wanting to be sedated! If it helps, my obsessively aligned sellotaped cheapie peestick collection has gone from homeopathic at 4w2d to vaguely convincing at 5w3d, and I'm glad yours is starting to look noticeably darker too.

Dachs - that's great you've started to get sore - wondering if I'm starting to get vague nausea now, but could easily be wishing myself into that. There is absolutely nothing concrete I can really convince myself with. Lemon thanks for the reassurance on no symptoms at 6 weeks.

Nix - yum lemon squash. And Rose's lime cordial, nice and sour. Yuk to the mousie though.

Ladybee - of course you're terrified sweetheart - but I think quease replaced by vomit counts as a bloody good symptom.

Orange - very interesting about your scans, and reassuring for the rest of us. Makes you wonder if there's still an awful lot they don't understand about early pregnancy and its variability. A bit like it saying in the Drs textbooks that we all ovulated on D14 and have a 14-day LP, looks like the beans don't read the textbooks either.

Hairy - hope you're doing okay today.

Love - nice to meet you - congrats on your BFP, and sorry about the long journey you've had to get to this point. I hope the treatments do the trick for you and make it stick. My DD is 7, and I've been trying not to tell her, have managed so far, but she's desperate for a sister (not a brother, obviously!) and keeps asking me about it... aaarghhgghghgh!

MamaP - your diet could be mine!! Love pickled onion monster munch. And can't even blame pregnancy for that.

Wombie - good luck for your scan today.

HK - hooraaahh for heartbeat! Lovely reassuring news for you.

Waves to coconuts, tigger, banana, Mouse and all the others lurking!

A very quick WWYD fron work:

This morning I've felt really fecking nauseous and almost fainted during a meeting.

I don't know whether or not to book private HCG tests, because I can't work out whether I could be feeling like this due to a drop in hormones or a rise in hormones.

I alsoo don't know whether I want to know if there's a drop.

All I know is I don't want to lie in that scanning room and be told there's nothing there on friday :(

Help!

drop in hormones could cause dizziness and fainting (did with me!) but not nausea... be reassured by the nausea
its a good sign x The sicker you feel the better :) (meant of course in a nice way!!)

Ok, so it's more dizziness and fainting than nausea :(

Gosh, this thread moves fast - I can't keep up.

Great news hkb and very good luck for today wombat. I have a private scan booked for tomorrow which I am doing my very best to not think about.

On the topic of piss : I take a wee sample with me, in a clean pot with a tight lid, in a zip-lock bag, which I quickly decant in the loos at the clinic when given the stupid minature sample pot. Works for me.

I am beginning to panic at my absence of typical pg symptoms at 7+4 weeks . Everyone here seems to be very busy puking, farting, belching and bloating.

hairy how are you feeling today?

Ladies, I had a freak acident this weekend. Was walking along a narrow path through woods with a 100ft drop to the side down to a stream, when someones unsupervised dog leapt off a rise and jumped at me at shoulder height, sending me tumbling down the side of the hill. Fortunately I stopped tumbling after only a few feet because I went into branches from a tree that had been felled; I only have a scratch on my face, bump on my head and very very sore shoulders and back (I think I must have landed first on my shoulders). Do you think this could cause me problems with the PG? I've had no pains or bleeding. But I think I went into shock (suddenly vomity and shakey and crying like an idiot) because as I was tumbling I thought there was no way I was going to emerge without broken bones. I don't know if a fright that big can do damage? Still feel a bit freaked, actually.

Hairy if it's any comfort I've been feeling dizzier and fainter week on week and at the last check last week hormones were still going up. Today I feel like shite-can't even see properly, feel like vision is going too......

x-post. Sorry hairy for further worries you're having. Stress and anxiety can also cause dizziness and lightheadedness (fight or flight mode). As hard as it is, try breathing more deeply and slowing down your heart rate and stilling your mind as much as you can and see if that helps. I know easier said than done, but you are desperately worried and that will provoke physical feelings which will make you worry more etc - vicious circle. x

Sorry choc crosses posts with you-you poor thing, that sounds so scary!! Did the dog owner come and help you? I'm sure the bean is fine though, surely well tucked under your pelvic bone and in a fluid bubble, an I'm sure the adrenaline surge won't have hurt it. Maybe get a scan to be on the safe side?

Yes, nausea did ease this weekend. And I did wake up feeling not the same nausea-wise this morning. However after my post I then spent some time getting intimately acquainted with the toilet (although with nothing in my tum, so not helpful). Right, so I will attempt to remain positive that in the absence of evidence otherwise, I will believe things are ok.

Nickster sorry to say, but with DS I had nausea until wk 15 at least. Felt very hard done by when wks 12-13 passed by and I was still feeling rubbish.

wombat hope the busy-ness helps to keep you distracted until scan time arrives. You can imagine us sitting there waiting with you. Really hope it's all good.

Emoo at homeopathic pee-stick line.

HK hoorah! Fantastic news!

lastly hairy "really fecking nauseous and almost fainted " that's INCREASING symptoms. You nutbar. I know you're terrified, and speaking from experience, it's impossible to judge your own situation with any semblance of rationality in that state of mind, so trust me. Nausea, dizziness, faint-feeling etc = increase in symptoms so much more likely to increase in hormones for your body to deal with than decrease.
I know you don't want to be told the worst on Friday. WE don't want you to be told the worst on Friday. God it's awful, isn't it. But do please just hold on. Nothing is over yet.

Honestly what would I do?

Dizziness, fainting and nausea are classic pregnancy symptoms, not of course offering any guarantees, but not symptoms that should cause any extra panic? Even if you have your hcg tested again, it's not going to change the outcome of the scan on Friday. Even if your hcg has dropped, you're still going to go for the scan, and you might be more mentally prepared for bad news, but you'll just have shifted your stressing to earlier in the week. If your hcg has risen, you'll still not feel properly reassured until the scan has happened.

I would work out how much money the private hcg would cost, and mentally put this money aside. If things go well, I'd spend it on a special baby outfit/item. If things don't work out, I'd spend it on something like a spa day or meal out with DH.

That's not to say it's what you should do... but you did ask! Sorry you are so so worried.

Thanks Ladybee.

I could just fecking give up and sign myself into a loony bin at this point :(

Am trying and trying to keep positive, doing affirmations, etc, etc but I just have this bloody doomed feeling again.

And my endless symptom spotting doesn't help, nor does suddenly feeling like I'm going to faint (the last time that happened was when my suspected ectopic kicked off for the second time).

Am so glad of this freakout room though.

Thanks Emoo that's just what I needed to hear.

I am actually feeling really traumatised at the thought of the scan on Friday, so am trying to put it out of my head.

I think I may be developing a real problem with it.

I feel like getting signed of work, but if I do I'll just end up mooching around feeling miserable.

At least I've got other (freak out style) stuff to do in work (budgeting and business planning) to keep my mind off things.

hairy something I got out of my book that I've been trying is that youve got to live in 'daytight' compartments. This means that youve got to forget the past-it's in the past and not relevant to now. You've also got to not stress about what might happen in future-so if you're worried about friday you've got to say to yourself "I'll deal with what happens on friday, on Friday". So then you're left with living each day at a time. So I know as much as any ladies on this thread that forgetting the past is not exactly straightforward but that was then, and this is now. Also v hard not to worry about upcoming scans and dates but no way of dealing with whatever the outcome till they crop up anyway, so better to get on with today and worry about these things when they come up. Not saying this is easy or that I'm 100% successful but I definitely think it's helpful.

You're so right, Pink and it's something I've been working through via counselling and meditation.

But it seems to have gone out of the window completely for me at present.

I'm going to do my daily meditations more religiously - they do help.

Part of the counselling work I've been doing is about 'evidence base' - and so far there's no evidence base it's gone wrong, but I keep getting pulled into the 'what if' scenario.

Also about Test, Operate, Test Exit. I have no reason to exit the 'ongoing pregnancy' and every reason to exit the 'it's doomed' feeling!

Just popping in to say good luck to wombat x

hairy you poor thing. Is there a mc counsellor attached to your epu? The one I've been seeing mentioned that she would see me when I get my bfp in order to help me through these weeks (unfortunately she's on holiday so can't see her till the 22nd which is a week after my first scan but before my last mc date). It might help having someone who can rationalise all your fears.

The fear can be paralysing. I've had insomnia for most of the week as it's the early hours where my mind seems to over think things. The darkening hpt has helped me for now. But I second the 'compartmentalising' suggestion - give yourself small achievable goals, like making it to the end of the working day. Then making it through to bedtime and so on.

Hello, I've been reading this thread and was wondering if I could join you? I already know owl from other threads. I had a MMC discovered at my 12 week scan just over a year ago, after seeing the heartbeat at 7 weeks. Am currently pregnant after my second attempt at IUI and am shitting myself wrt to symptoms/no symptoms. Can I join in the mentalling please?

Ooh what's the test operate test exit thing? I am v interested in all of this stuff because unless I concentrate my brain on this sort of stuff I start imagining all sorts

X post. I see you've got a counsellor, that's brilliant. You're doing all the right things. Just need to get through it.

Welcome barbiesbeaver (great name), how far along are you?