Over Here Viroids! Just Shagging with Intent Thread!

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The (updated)(again)(again) 'rules' from our Just Shagging Originator for the Viroids:

Maintain a relaxed attitude at all times - drink if you want too, especially on your birthday (or when you've had bad news). Thread precedent dictates if you drink to excess you will get a BFP (but not recommended). (It just takes longer to get in the mood

Dee - OMG words fail me. Firstly I'm so very sorry about your son. But and at the MW. How long ago was it? I think I'd still be tempted to make a complaint. What a fucking witch .

I wish you a BFP very soon, followed 9 months later by a lovely smooth, just-as-you-planned-it delivery :)

I think I'd have to come to terms with the fact that it might not go to plan, but as you say, in the heat of the moment I'm sure I'll just want whatever's best

A 'client' just bought their 8 month old baby in and she was laughing and waving and clapping. And my new colleague keeps talking about how her 6 month old daughter woke her up in the night laughing

X-post. Dee I'm so sorry for what you went through

Josie I hear you on the . My farrier was just here, his GF had a boy 4 1/2 weeks ago. His nearly first question, after I asked after the baby was "when are you having kids then". . Getting a bit sick of lying to people and pretending that it's never on the cards. Problem is, because I'm so old not in my 20s any more, people now assume I genuinely mean it. They will probably all die of shock if I ever get a BFP .

(Also, he said that his baby was sleeping all through the night already. He is a bit prone to making things up exagerating a little. This surely can't be true, can it?

I'm sick of people saying 'you've got it all to come' when they're talking about their kids. How do they know we've not just been told we can't have kids! How would they react if I burst into tears and said I'd never experience that (might try it one day and see the reaction ) DH's mam is the worst. She said the only reason we gave the neices and nephews money for xmas was so that they would give us money when we had kids . She was lucky I didn't knock her block off I told my mam about someone's 1yr old sleeping through the night and said surely they started before then, she couldn't stop laughing at the look of horror on my face when she said 1yr old was normal! I neeeeeed my sleep!

Oh Josie I'll be aiming for long before 1!!!So many of my close friends and family have become parents recently that I'm now a bit of an armchair expert. Most did the first all-nighter around 16 weeks. My nephew was much younger, maybe 10 weeks? Luckily none of my friends have had to wait until anything like a year, so I'll be asking them all what they did!

I wonder if some of my friends have cottoned on to the fact we are trying? A couple of them used to regularly get their ears bent by me, especially on a night out, about how I was broody but OH wasn't ready. I haven't talked about it for months, for fear of giving the game away, but I suspect that in itself is telling! I'm actually amazed though, as in all this time the only person I have actually told is my sister :)

Sleep??? What's that then? My DS3 was one a fortnight ago and he still doesn't go all the way through the night. Having said that, last night was the best night we've had in months - he finally gave in at 10.30pm and slept til 5am. Was fab. He's usually every three hours or so, which is fun!! Wouldn't change it though.

Those who worried about any mess with HB - I just.covered HD bed with a plastic sheet, the midwife brought over a birthing pack containing the sheets etc a couple of before my due date. After the bath, they ran me a bath and cleaned up the sheeting while I was in the bath. They then made me a cuppa and gave me a couple of paracetamol and then left. It was lovely to be sitting in my own bed and not have to abide by any hospital rules and no intrusions. :)

Crow that sounds exactly like my idea of a hb. Only thing puttin me off is that if I make a lot of noise the neighbours might hear

LOL Josie - I guess they might understand! Let's just hope they don't hear the much earlier stage of your baby's creation .

Still think HB sounds messy though. What if you get up to walk around and gush everywhere? I think I'd spend more time worrying about my beautiful sheets! Also what sorts of rules did the hospital have crow? [genuinely interested emoticon].

:( so sorry to hear about DS1 dee.

Also sorry to hear about all of the difficult births. My birth plan was fairly loose - basically said that I didn't want an epidural, an episiotomy or a c-section... I ended up with the epidural (after 24 hours I was still only 2 cm and with contactions on top of each other I no longer cared what it took!) and after 2 hours of pushing they didn't give me a choice of the episiotomy. But I didn't have the c-section so 2 out of 3 ain't bad!

DD will be 1 in just over a week and only started consistently sleeping through at about 10ish months. She'd have a night here and there but it wasn't the norm until then. I think that they just do it when they're ready... My sisters babies have both been natural sleepers from day dot which used to make me (and secretly a little bit !).

I choose to only think of the good bits when I think of the next one!

Gosh, I think I might ask for only perfectly planned birth stories where the baba popped out quietly after a little sneeze

Dee you've clearly been through so much and yet sound very pragmatic and wise about it all. I love the viroids!

I have no idea what I would want to do birth-wise and strongly suspect I would happily take any drugs offered if I was in pain. I also know that gas & air does not agree with me so that could be fun!

In terms of sleeping through, my niece on my husband's side is 2 and still wakes most nights whilst my nephew (my sister's son) has slept through since 6 weeks I'm hoping it's a genetic thing and I'll get a perfect sleeper as I sleep like a log at the moment and am a bit of a zombie without my 8 hours at least

I appear to have gone into emoticon overload so will bugger off to bed now. Night night viroids.

I had the bedroom window open - on the street! I think I asked for it to be closed when it got to the noisy bit though the worst I did was swear quite loudly at the pushing stage ... it was very intense and I'd had no pain relief. Neighbours didn't hear a thing and that's in a terraces house with thin walls!

As for the hospital - bear in mind it was 17 years ago; stuff like having to go to the day room to eat and leave baby by the bed (in the days before electronic tags on babies), having to ask for formula, having too many people around ... other's visitors, their noisy babies etc. On the delivery ward; the midwife leaving you alone to tend to others, seeming very authoritarian, just unable to relax as you're not in control.

Am feeling really crap at the moment ... very emotional. Got cramps and am bloaty. Got all sad when a song came on my ipod, which took me back too an awful point in my life. Then I got very weepy Then to top it all, OH told me he'd got a message on FB from an old friend, who happens to be female, who is in the area and wants to catch up with him and meet me. Thing is, she and him have a joint interest which they're both excited about and he warned me they'd probably spend the whole time talking about it, and I may get bored but he really wants her to meet me, and I feel rude if I don't go. Then I felt insecure and threatened ... even though I know I have no reason to. I just got it into my head that he'd realise he had more in common with her than me, because she's more excited about this interest that's very important to him, and that he'll fall for her

I know it is daft, and I trust him totally ... I suppose I'm just feeling vulnerable. And now it's put me in a cruddy mood and I've taken myself off to bed for a cry. Bluergh.

Aw Crow it's not daft at all. I often feel quite vulnerable like that and it's not because I don't trust DH, it's because my self esteem happens to be low at that time and it bothers me when it shouldn't. I'm worse after ERTD arrives as I feel like I have failed every month so your self esteem is very low. I hope you feel better soon

Thanks Josie ... I'm feeling better this morning. Think I was over tired and hormonal. Luckily OH was understanding :)

I'm not working today, so I have to sort the girls' room, which has become a dumping ground for boxes and everything else we can't fit elsewhere. But now we have their beds they can stay over and I have to find room for all the stuff! Also make a start on getting their beds up .... or I may just leave that to OH this evening

Or I may just stay in bed and sleep!

Morning...wow, I missed out on all sorts of interesting chat!

Crow - sorry to hear ERTD has got you. And got you good and proper as well. My boobs have been super super sore before the last couple and I POAS and got BFN. So I know that for me sore boobs does not equal MC. I hope that's the same for you.

Dee - so sorry to hear about your DS1 and the horrors you've been through. This one will be so much better!

I agree with Nelly (I think it was Nelly!) about hosptial birth. HB sounds nice in theory, but I think I'd rather have everyone and everything to hand just in case! A MLU would be ideal, I guess.

My sister has gest diabetes and is being induced either mon or tue next week. Really excited for her...she's not due for another 10 days, but her first was 2 weeks late and earlier this week the baby already weighed nearly 9lb.

Josie - when are you due? Lost track....

I'm on day 32 today...ERTD appeared on day 34 last month, so still expecting it anytime. I WILL NOT TEST!!!!

Hi to everyone else

Morning viroids. How are you all today?

Sorry I missed yesterday's chat. I was at DP's uncle's funeral. Glad it's over now.

I love the viroids too Truffkin! So much experience between us all.

Waves and hugs to all.

Morning G2D I don't know what to make of it, but I do know I've only ever had boobs as sore as that when I was expecting my girls ... but maybe my body is just getting old and playing tricks on me

Well, I just had fun - I had to bathe the cat!! She has a skin condition, and now and then it breaks out and she'll scratch and lick her skin until she makes it sore and it results in scabs (lovely) so we have to put a lampshade collar on her (which she loves us for ) then the scabs dry out and she looks like she's covered in dandruff. I was brushing her earlier and it looked as though she'd been in a snow storm! Usually OH helps, as we need one to hold her down and one to shampoo and rinse her. But I decided it needed emergency treatment and did it on my own. She was so well behavdd - I kept talking to her all the way through, telling her she was a good girl, and at one point she even sat still and just let me get on with it, before making another bid for freedom! She'd usually go and hide after, sulking, but she's being sociable ... I've given her treats and cuddles etc, and still no sulking! Bless her.

I think I deserve chocolate now

LOL Crow! I reckon if I tried to bathe our cat, there wouldn't be much of my face left by the end of it! She's a grumpy wee sod. I love her though. Funnily enough, she has dandruff too, which I always thought was weird. No sore patches, just dandruff!

Glad you are having a better day today though Crow! Enjoy your chocolate.

Hope it went as well as funerals can go Bam

Got2Dance I'm due a week today, it's really gonna drag! Not feeling very well today actually, I'm completely knackered. Couldn't be bothered to do any housework last night (but did anyway as DH wouldn't help ) and ended up in bed at half 9, then couldn't get up this morning and left DH to go do horsey on his own . Think I'm coming down with something. I've just come over really hot and feel a bit sickly. Refusing to read anything into it, it's far too early. If I get some definite and couldn't possibly be imagined symptoms then I'll get excited

Haha last time, she clawed my back to shreds! She jumped over my shoulder as I was leaning over the bath to hold her and dug her claws in my back to pull herself up But most times she sits still, mewing pitifully! We think she's learning that it makes her better in the long run ... her skin isn't so irritable. She's all black so the flakes show up so much. She's gone back to our bed now, and will no doubt sleep all day until OH gets in and play the victim and want pity he's got her sussed though!

It was fine thanks Josie. I just wanted to be there to support DP. I even managed not to cry when we sung Abide with Me. That song always makes me well up.

Understand you not wanting to read anything into your symptoms, but it's so exciting!

Ooooh, thank you Crow!

Our cat is black too, with a white bib and socks. She's pretty fluffy, and the dandruff is just such a bad look!

:( BamBam I'm sure it was a lovely send-off.

have been having drips since ERTD "started" on Monday, and I was beginning to think it would never get going, but this morning i got the gush and now i'm just annoyed at gravity.

ah well.
counted out my folic acid tablets today, and we're now on cycle 5.