Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting weeping and most of all laughing! All welcome! (Part 10)

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Had a miscarriage and ready to try again? This is the place for you, support in the form of virtual wine, chocolate and a great big shoulder to cry on (tears not essential). The new year beckons us, lots of BFP's for everyone

UCL= Usual cycle Length
CD= cycle day

at Lady Hope it goes well chickster x

Good luck Bee :)

Big hug for Wombat

Fingers firmly crossed for the exciting business venture MamaP :)

Hope the physicsing thingy goes well Velvet

cep your GP is so, so wrong. I have a 28 day cycle without fail every month and ovulate on day 16/17. Doesn't take a genius to work out what's going on there! 14 days my arse.

Fx bee xx you ain't a fraud toots!

Wombat, hon the symptoms come and go even boobs!

Izz make the most of the extra cash that's what's keeping me going!

Fx for mama yrm, and the others due this weekend! Vel? :)

I'm ok, busy at work, new role very Urm interesting, hindered by our wank It dept! Challenging for the Time being cos it's a new client but will pick up!

Lots of boffins on ere then :) was never any good at science, really wished I'd listened in biology!

Right ladies, line up please, I want to kiss you all! and whoever thought up the list is a genius

I have been going nuts trying to schedule this HSG quickly and at the right time in my cycle. I fired off a thread, 3 questions on the AS yahoo group and an email to the best AS Doctor in the US about whether its safe to have the HSG on CD 13 (AND loads of PM's to Pink too) AND I HAVE JUST CHECKED THE LIST AND SEEN I HAD THE DATES WRONG! All that panic for nothing because I will only be CD10, which is perfect timing! I can even SWI afterwards! Hoooray for the list!! (and I know it is right because FF agrees) Oh the relief!!

MamaP May the pub be yours!! You so deserve a nice fat bit of luck coming your way. No, my rubbish hasnt replied to me, but I heard on the AS grapevine that he has a bad back and had an epidural this morning, so perhaps he has taken some time off work.

LadyB must be super difficult being thrown back in the big room with all the big pregnant ladies. Sounds like by not feeling "really" pregnant you have a good defense mechanism going on there, and its helping you feel protected from the potential pain you might feel if things dont work out. Maybe it will wear off in time, so dont push yourself, just go with whatever response feels comfortable to you.

cep has anyone recommended to you the bible book "Taking Charge of Your Fertility" by Toni Weschler. Absolutely the best source of info ever.

BOA I thought you were a cheapie internet test girl like the rest of us? I wouldnt dream of spending money on the posh tests anymore, after the rate I used them in my last TTC bout...

Velvet good luck with your exam

Dach How are you feeling, any more news?

thread is too mammoth to name check everyone, so the rest of you will have to make do with your kiss instead.

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BOA and mamap are your boobs messing with you then? There's nada over here. I feel quite cheated... I do feel a bit sick, have all day, but i've got the (TMI) squits as well, so that's unreliable!

mamap I have my fingers crossed for the pub for you!

mummya Whoop for CD10! that's fab. Straight into the SWI you go then!

ladybee hope you get what you need from the consultant.

wombat try not to worry, I had NO symptoms at all with DS, but lots with the MC We are always going to overanalyse these things, our blind faith has been robbed from us. Try not to worry(())

Hurrah Mummya that is good news!!

Nix I did listen in biology class and it didn't do me any good at all when it came to TTC - all the useful stuff I learnt here!

Bee hope you got your treatment!

I've missed loads so apologies for not doing proper catch up. Have just been sobbing on the shoulder of my only RL friend who knows the whole situation and she's been fab. Have a mantra to repeat : "Tomorrow I WILL feel more positive"!

sobbing is a symptom wombat

i spent last night in exhausted tears......!

ok, warning - apologies, this is going to be a bit of a long ranty me me me post, but I'll try to get some positivity in here for the rest of you!

So I turn up at the clinic this morning and they've grown a bit since Monday but not massively. Nurse said it might be Saturday rather than Friday but then checked with Doc who said still Friday, so egg collection will be on Friday - that means embryos back in on Mon or Wed depending on how they are doing, so probably Mon if last time is anything to go by. So glad to have a date in the diary but not glad that they haven't grown as much as they would have liked.

I've been trying to get my boss to sign off on holiday for May, which I've been trying to get her to do since November. I really need something to look forward to if the IVF doesn't work, and all the people who we met on a cruise last year and are still mates with (they all live in the US) are going on a Baltic capitals cruise, which we also wanted to go on. There is some work which I need to do in May involving one of the other departments and although I could fit everything in my boss was being difficult because she couldn't see how it would fit into the timetable. The timetable has now moved, I'd be on hol for two days when there might be the odd thing I'd be involved in but the rest of the 6 weeks or so I'd be needed I'd be around in the office and someone else (more senior than me) is happy to make any required adjustments while I'm away if needed. The boss still refuses to sign it off. Partly because she's decided she wants to go on hol in June and partly just because she's decided i need to be in the office for a week when I KNOW nothing will be required from me. I'm really really grumpy now. It's like this every time I try to take any time off - I can't take holiday in Jan/Feb or Mar because it's our corporate year end, I can't take it in April, June, July, August, September, October, November because of forecasts, budgets and the hlad year accounts and I can't take it in December because of tax comps and Christmas and preparing for the corporate year end and now apparently I can't take it in May either. I'm really miserable now.

mamap FX your offer is accepted! :)
mummya Glad you have had some good news on timings - FX for you as well!
womby may you be blessed with very sore boobs, extreme sickness and overwhelming tiredness...

(typo above, sorry - can't see how i typed hlad when i was trying to type half but i guess I'm just crap at typing!)

Oh Dachs your boss really is an arse!! FFS, how hard can it be to sign off on some holiday! you are entitled to it! I'm very on your behalf.

Thanks for the sore boobs, extreme sickness and overwhelming tiredness wishes - I look forward to their arrival!

Dachs it sounds like your boss is being an unreasonable cow. Get it in writing that your senior person is happy to cover your stuff, then it's time for a nice little chat with the HR person, I reckon. Failing that, send me her address and I will send her a cow pat in the post

Good news on the eggs though :)

Can I just play devil's advocate here? I'm not sure arming one's self with every book/website/piece of equipment going in the first few months after mc is neccessarily a good idea - mainly because it can make you a lot more anxious about ttc at a time when anxiety is already at maximum levels. Oh, and step away from Dr Google :) This advice comes with the caveat that I didn't listen to my own words of wisdom and thus, as usual, am in no position to comment. However I did get myself so worked up about ttc round about the 4 months mark that I had to delete myself off here for a bit to calm down, which is why I now have a stupid name and am not owlshoes any more.

Also - wombat my main and sometimes only symptom has been horrendous belching. So I wish that on you as well

boo for Dach's boss. I agree with owl, fight back! You need a holiday.

I have a horrible image of wombat puking, belching and rubbing her boobs! Poor wombat!

Bring it on Mummya I'd be glad of the reassurance!!

Thanks Owl - I'll add that to my list of things to look out for!

i've been fighting back for 2 months - i don't have the energy to fight any more. i shouldn't have to fight in the first place. And I'd resign, but obviously being in the middle of an ivf cycle isn't the best time to look for a job and if i resign before the end of March I'll lose my bonus for this year

Dach that shit, do you think that's what she wants?

Honestly i have no idea. They'd be screwed without me (although I don't think they realise quite how badly until I left...). It probably just hasn't occurred to her that I'd ever think about doing anything like that! Which is why it's so tempting...

sorry for the ranting, it's just that stress isn't the best thing when you're TTC and I don't think it's any coincidence that the follies performed splendidly when I was at home over the weekend but have stopped again now I'm back in the office...

GRRRRRRRR...........................

GRRRR indeed. Get your GP to sign you off for the rest of this cycle (would give your boss an opportunity to see just how screwed they are without you and then maybe they's appreciate you a bit more)?!

(((hugs))) for Wombat my main symptoms are belching and constipation, so I'm wishing them your way
Dachs @ your boss, you deserve something to look forward to. It all sounds good for Friday, I'm still wishing you my exam luck, as I haven't had my results yet so it's still there for the taking
Yay for Mummya and the list! That's awesome news you don't have to wait till next cycle
Nix new job sounds interesting, hopefully helping the next 12 days (?) go quickly

Thanks everyone for thinking of me, I had 2 heavy bleeds on Monday, but have just had spotting yesterday and today. The not knowing is starting to get to me. I've googled lots of success stories but I'm having trouble believing I could be one of them.

I'm wondering (if I get that far) whether to have a private scan before my NHS one on 23rd, as I am assuming it would be with better equipment and might see more, though not convinced it's a good idea. Owl I noticed on another thread, sorry for mentioning, that you had a private scan at the same place which I would go to. Do you think they were good/better than NHS? What has been people's experiences? After the sonographer telling me it was over on Sunday, I'm a little nervous in putting my trust in them

Dachs I agree with Wombat can your GP not sign you off?

Woo-hoo mummya !!! re the timing, that's fab that you can start ttc again this month!!!!

I have to say half the time I rely on the list to keep track of where I am!

dachs good that you have a fixed date for the egg collection now, will be keeping my fx that they keep growing. Btw your boss, like mine, is an Arse. No other way of looking at it. Mine is exactly the same re holidays, it's a nightmare trying to get anything booked in advance. I'm tryIng to pluck up the courage to ask about mine tomorrow but not sure I can brave the look of horror!! Anyway, persevere and be firm.

nicks I didn't like science that much either, and I dropped Biology after third year....I owe most of my knowledge now to you guys!! . My dh has an MPhys though if that'll do...?

PS orange ime the NHS equipment is actually better than you get at private clinics, it's just you have to deal with all the faffing around and crap. I know when I wanted an ERPC rather than induced labour that the private hospitals weren't really happy to do it at 17 weeks and said I'd be better at NHS because they had better facilities if anything went wrong. My NHS scam pics have always been better too. That's just my experience though, and tbh if you can hang on till about 7.5 weeks you should be able to see what's going on wherever you go.

Afternoon lovelies and thank you with a huge sloppy kiss to loola mama and cep for calming me down after last night's 'I'm never going to get pg, I'm going through early menopause' anxiety attack. I was in a right old pickle, 'tis true.

Feeling much more zen this morning though mainly because the bleeding has stopped and my temps are still up I'm just having a few cramps now. No, I've no idea what this means either but for now I'm taking it that af hasn't arrived after all (not yet anyway).

Wombat Big squeeze hon. I didn't have any symptoms at all with dd other than mild nausea around week 8/9 so try not to panic. I'm pretty certain my boobs didn't even grow at all until after she was born either (I know because I was still wearing my regular, underwired, non maternity bras, tut tut)

Cep I can highly recommend the internet cheapies for opks then you can literally pee away to your hearts content. I poas every time I went to the loo this cycle from around cd12-16. With lunchtime/ early afternoon usually being the best time to catch the surge.

Mamap Fingers crossed for your offer. How exciting! Kent is a bit more accessible from here to roll up and get tipsy sample the lovely food in your lovely snug.

Dachs Fingers crossed your follies keep on doing their stuff and the transfer goes well.

Thanks Izzy I should be around 7 weeks by 23rd they reckon, if I really am just a bit of a late starter. I just wish I knew what was going on in there. I'm so sorry to hear you went through such a terrible time x