Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting weeping and most of all laughing! All welcome! (Part 10)

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Had a miscarriage and ready to try again? This is the place for you, support in the form of virtual wine, chocolate and a great big shoulder to cry on (tears not essential). The new year beckons us, lots of BFP's for everyone

UCL= Usual cycle Length
CD= cycle day

getta oh he loves sunstroke that's never a problem. sorry being v dirty now. and fingers crosed for the poas.

abit of a query kind of (sorry makes lots of sense i know) when i was trying before i was taking temps as regular as i could with a 2 yr old rather difficult, but was also doing the ov test every day (admittedly only for 1 month)sometimes twice a day, but they always came back negative. i never got a positive ov test. but then we went on hols dtd 2 days after my af finished and bobs your uncle. because my cycles changed so much after coming off the pill and were different every month i found it difficult to work anything out and when temping failed due to being up and about with toddler being up and down during the night and never getting a positive on the ov i'm still unsure as to when to try.

also a stupid question after the mc the dr advised dtd once every 3 days so we don't have old or too young sperm, now is that every other day or 1 day on the 2 days off?? and what are your opinions on this??

Thursdays list

HidingInTheBackRow TTC1, cycle 2, UCL 26, CD26
Tunnocksteacake TTC #2, cycle 3, UCL30 CD25
youremindmeofthebabe TTC#2, Cycle 5 UCL33 CD24
knitterNotTwitter TTC#2, (round 3) cycle 5 UCL 25-30 CD24
Velvetcu TTC #1 Cycle 5 UCL 35, CD19
HongKongBaby#2, cycle 5 (post mc1), UCL 37, CD19
BackOnceAgain TTC#3,Cycle 1 UCL28-34 CD19
MamaPower TTC#1, cycle 5 (post MC#2) UCL 25- 27 CD18
Loola2shu TTC#3 Cycle 4 UCL 40, CD18
Pinkfondantfancy TTC#1, cycle 5, UCL 28-35 CD17
Tigger15 TTC#2 cycle 22 UCL24-9 CD17
AandRmum TTC3 cycle 2 UCL29 CD16
Hairytriangle TTC#1 cycle 1 (post MC2) UCL ?28 CD14
IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy TTC#3 cycle 6 UCL 24-30 CD12
ochaye TTC#3 cycle WTF UCL 31 CD12
DachshundsRule TTC#1 cycle 5 UCL28 CD10
Choccybick TTC#1 (post mc1) cycle 6 UCL 27 CD 10
Emoo TTC#2, Cycle 1 (post MC1) UCL 26-30, CD10
ZamMummyInGabs TTC#3 cycle 2 postMC#2 (but WTF cycle only 2 weeks long, so maybe it's only cycle 1 really?) UCL28, CD9
Kat2504 ttc#1 cycle 5 ucl28, CD7
MummyAbroad TTC #2, cycle 1 (Post AS Op)) UCL? CD3
Getawiggleon TTC#2, UCL26 CD?

WTTC
Cep MC#1 Dec 2010
Sarahmia TTC#2, MC2
Barrenbrook TTC#1, MC#4 Oct 2010
Batteryhen MC conf Oct 2010
Digitalgirl TTC#2, MC#3 Oct 2010
Nurse47 TTC#2, UCL28, WTF cycle ERPC 9 Nov
Mamafoof TTC#2, MC#1 Nov 2010, WTF cycle
Hadrian TTC#1, MC#1 Dec 2010, WTF cycle

MIA
Sillyness TTC#1 post MC1 WTF cycle RunForTheHills TTC#1, UCL28 Freezingmyarseoff TTC#2 UCL28 GetDownYouWillFall TTC#2 UCL 27 - 44

RECENT BFP's
Wombat33 TTC#1 Cycle 3 (post MC) UCL 31 BFP!!
LadyBee TTC#2, cycle 5 (round 3) UCL27 CD27 BFP!!
Owlbooty TTC#1, cycle 5 BFP!!
Mousebacon TTC#2 MC#1 4th Oct WTF cycle BFP!!!
Nickstermum TTC#2 cycle 2 post MC UCL 30-40 BFP!!!
PrettyQuichey TTC#1, (round 7) UCL 28-30 BFP!!!!

RECENT GRADUATES
BUnderthebonnet BFP 20 June
Muser BFP 22 June
northerngoldilocks - BFP 12 July
Magic8ballhastheanswers BFP 14 July
Hopefully BFP 22 July
IvySedai BFP 1 August
PenguinsMummy BFP 15th August
VivClicquot BFP 25 August
Loopymumsy BFP 29 August
CaribouMoo BFP 7 September
StarflowerGirl BFP 24 Sep
Appleblossoms BFP 9 Oct
Littlemiss72
Urbanlolly BFP 1 Nov
Inbetweener BFP 10 Nov
Lottiecrump BFP September 2010

my opinion would be three times a week. I would rather go for every second day but that isn't quite possible at the moment. So every 3 days isn't bad, but perhaps every 2 days in the days leading up to ov?
I did some online reading on docs advice and every 2-3 days was what came up. Sounds like that is the most up to date advice.
Of course, I think the best thing for relationship is to do it when you want to, so not worry if you already did it the day before if the mood takes you, conversely not worry if it is 3 days apart not 2 sometimes. Aim for 3 times a week average.

nix congrats on the job, is exciting and glad you are looking forward to more interesting role.

cep every other day is OK for sperm to be "rejuvinated" as it were UNLESS your DH has been tested and found to have a low sperm count/poor morphology. In which case two days to errr recover stocks is better. Going for longer than 10 days without any release can make them "old" and therefore not good quality.

re: charting, have you got any to post? ov sticks on their own can be really unreliable especially if your cycle is not that regular. I do two a day as well (cheapie internet ones, I am not a millionaire ) and found that only one would be positive, therefore my LH surge was very short and easy to miss. I also got it with FMU, and on the instructions its says to test in the afternoon. When were you testing? Were you under any stress/illness that month? Stress can delay ovulation and cause your cycles to seem irregular. How irregular are your cycles? Have you ever been tested for PCOS or similar? Have you tried checking your cervix around the time you suspect ov to get more info that way?

better stop now, am writing a book...

mummya the oracle i haven't, i didn't do anything on line, just wrote it in a book which i tore out when i got pg. 10 days? she made it sound like anything over 3 was getting old. No he's not been tested doesn't really need to be i don't think, he has a ds from previous ptnr and then my ds. My cycle seemed to be anything between what i thought was 26 days to 28, (before ds and pill i was regular 28 days everytime.) But when i worked it out on last pg it was 24 or 25. i read that testing about 7 pm was best cause it took so many hours to show in your system. don't think i was ill, but am pretty much always stressed.

I was checked a few years ago for pcos and was told i had a very mild case certainly nothing they were worried about. what times do you test?
i'm wondering if it would be best just to do it every other day from when my af finishes (when it bloomin starts) for a week or two. If i can get dh to agree.

I'm going to pop in and buy a pg test tomorrow just to make sure.

I lost a day somewhere!

Thursdays list

HidingInTheBackRow TTC1, cycle 2, UCL 26, CD26
Tunnocksteacake TTC #2, cycle 3, UCL30 CD25
youremindmeofthebabe TTC#2, Cycle 5 UCL33 CD24
knitterNotTwitter TTC#2, (round 3) cycle 5 UCL 25-30 CD24
Velvetcu TTC #1 Cycle 5 UCL 35, CD19
HongKongBaby#2, cycle 5 (post mc1), UCL 37, CD19
BackOnceAgain TTC#3,Cycle 1 UCL28-34 CD19
MamaPower TTC#1, cycle 5 (post MC#2) UCL 25- 27 CD19
Loola2shu TTC#3 Cycle 4 UCL 40, CD18
Pinkfondantfancy TTC#1, cycle 5, UCL 28-35 CD17
Tigger15 TTC#2 cycle 22 UCL24-9 CD17
AandRmum TTC3 cycle 2 UCL29 CD16
Hairytriangle TTC#1 cycle 1 (post MC2) UCL ?28 CD14
IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy TTC#3 cycle 6 UCL 24-30 CD12
ochaye TTC#3 cycle WTF UCL 31 CD12
DachshundsRule TTC#1 cycle 5 UCL28 CD10
Choccybick TTC#1 (post mc1) cycle 6 UCL 27 CD 10
Emoo TTC#2, Cycle 1 (post MC1) UCL 26-30, CD10
ZamMummyInGabs TTC#3 cycle 2 postMC#2 (but WTF cycle only 2 weeks long, so maybe it's only cycle 1 really?) UCL28, CD9
Kat2504 ttc#1 cycle 5 ucl28, CD7
MummyAbroad TTC #2, cycle 1 (Post AS Op)) UCL? CD3
Getawiggleon TTC#2, UCL26 CD?

WTTC
Cep MC#1 Dec 2010
Sarahmia TTC#2, MC2
Barrenbrook TTC#1, MC#4 Oct 2010
Batteryhen MC conf Oct 2010
Digitalgirl TTC#2, MC#3 Oct 2010
Nurse47 TTC#2, UCL28, WTF cycle ERPC 9 Nov
Mamafoof TTC#2, MC#1 Nov 2010, WTF cycle
Hadrian TTC#1, MC#1 Dec 2010, WTF cycle

MIA
Sillyness TTC#1 post MC1 WTF cycle RunForTheHills TTC#1, UCL28 Freezingmyarseoff TTC#2 UCL28 GetDownYouWillFall TTC#2 UCL 27 - 44

RECENT BFP's
Wombat33 TTC#1 Cycle 3 (post MC) UCL 31 BFP!!
LadyBee TTC#2, cycle 5 (round 3) UCL27 CD27 BFP!!
Owlbooty TTC#1, cycle 5 BFP!!
Mousebacon TTC#2 MC#1 4th Oct WTF cycle BFP!!!
Nickstermum TTC#2 cycle 2 post MC UCL 30-40 BFP!!!
PrettyQuichey TTC#1, (round 7) UCL 28-30 BFP!!!!

RECENT GRADUATES
BUnderthebonnet BFP 20 June
Muser BFP 22 June
northerngoldilocks - BFP 12 July
Magic8ballhastheanswers BFP 14 July
Hopefully BFP 22 July
IvySedai BFP 1 August
PenguinsMummy BFP 15th August
VivClicquot BFP 25 August
Loopymumsy BFP 29 August
CaribouMoo BFP 7 September
StarflowerGirl BFP 24 Sep
Appleblossoms BFP 9 Oct
Littlemiss72
Urbanlolly BFP 1 Nov
Inbetweener BFP 10 Nov
Lottiecrump BFP September 2010

In reality though just haven't got that 'feeling' but we'll see

Are you talking about OPK tests? every other day is not enough as you can miss the surge. If you are back to every 26-28 days I would start daily testing on day 10 and perhaps twice daily testing on days 12/13/14 if you don't get a positive in the first couple of months. Usually they say opk tests should be used in the afternoon but I personally often get the first proper positive in the morning,after having had a very nearly dark enough line the evening before.

Ah I see, doing it is not refering to testing? Every other day is a top plan! Don't worry about getting dh to agree to a schedule. Better just to tell him that at least 3 times a week is what is being aimed for and then get on with it without picking out days in advance. Would be an unusual man to turn down your advances!

Geta yes I have a test in the house (remember the two free ones a while ago)

anyway good luck to everyone havin' a go tonight

kat2504 he is unusual he's already told me that if we do it every other day for too long he'll start not being able to come. (sorry if tmi)Sorry i wasn't being clear about what i was saying, i tend to ramble.

anyway after a bad nights sleep i'm off to bed. Sleep well all, or have a really good night if it's that time.

cep Kat has a really good point about doing what is best for your relationship and if you have mild PCOS that can make predicting ov very tricky and you could end up exhausted and frustrated. As regular sex as you can manage throughout the whole month is the standard recommendation for anyone with PCOS. Sorry I cant remember where I saw the advice about sperm reserves not going over 10 days without "clearout" I will try and find it for you.

I experimented with times for OPKs I started out doing every day at 10am, and got nothing, then did FMU and 2pm and got positives in the afternoon. This month I am planning to check cervix when ov is close I do FMU, 2pm and 7pm. I have some large stockpiles that need using up

daddys good luck with the test!!

mamap sorry for screwing up the list, oracle skills obviously dont extend to list updating

wasn't you mummya I just noticed but it looks like I've been out for a while! There's always one

Hello Chatterboxes, 2 days and I'm about 10 pages behind!!!!

Still no temp rise but some very positive looking ewcm, crampyness, sore bb's, bloatedness and cycle already 1 cd longer than last time so has to be good news! (well unless its AF

I normally ov around cd20/21 I think, so looking like that could be the case this time too (FX!!)DH was happy to oblige twice this evening and he's hoping for another at bedtime hopefully I'll be able to put him off until the morning when the little fellas have had time to 'refresh!' although he has apparently got super sperm! and he has been told that by quite a few consultants

I'm off to read back and catch up on news!! xxx

flipping 'eck ladies 4 pages to catch up on!! sorry i have skimmed them tho.

orange how are you? like everyone says, it most definately can be ok despite some bleeding. I know it must be tough for you. If I ever get a BFP I'll be in a state of constant worry since I had no bleeding or cramping or any other signs that anything was wrong with my mmc.

hey MamaP why am I not in your little wish for BFPs?? :(

good luck with the poas daddysgirl

big helloooo yrmotb, muumya nix boa dachs izzy and anyone else i have missed. its good to be back :)

cep you don't need to do it every other day for too long. every other day in a six day period is only 3 times. But it is important to minimise the stress. I know how frustrating a "failed attempt" can be when you think it is the "right time".
Seriously though, he can have five days off for a period and the ten days before period are infertile too. It's not like you're demanding it 15 times a month!!

TBH I think minimising the stress is the most important thing. If you are arguing about it the end result is likely to be less TTC action not more.

What a lot of amazingly useful info ladies, we should write a book. Had another day of lovely leisure today but am going to attempt some work tomorrow so off for an early night

Anyway, quick note to say hi to francesca, glad you made it over here. Like you and cep I am trying to decide whether to wait for first AF before TTC again. Am going to do a test at the weekend and if I get a BFN DH thinks we should do a bit of casual shagging, pretend we don't care and see what happens! Then try in earnest after first AF.

Good luck to all those planning POAS action...would love to wake up tomorrow to yet more BFPs!

woohooo for pretty Wombat owly & lady (love your dodgy chart leading to BFP, plus the alcohol!! My kinda girl

& orange doubling sounds good, sure everything's ok!

also a big YAY! for tigger & yrmotb for your opks! (I would love to see a thermal shift so I know how lovely a + would be!)

izz hows your sis?

dach any news on the follicle front?

wiggle 13 is my mams lucky number! Could be yours too!

mummya ...... whoopdewhoopwhoop!!!! for being back on the list!!!!! I reckon this could be your month!

emoo lol at thermal knicks! the size of them they could be thermal

mamap haha at you suspecting nix of being a minx! I'm with you on that

pink loving the plan! I will have to give it a go, athletes always swear by PMA don't they, there must be something in ti!

nix well done on the job front!

daddy good luck with the test...fmu tomorrow?!

Newbies soz I haven't welcome'd individually, sorry you're all here, but looking forward to getting to know you, although not for long as we'll all be graduating!

I need some advice from the Oracle (or any other charters :) )

I have got light pink cm - do I record this as spotting?? Ty muchly in advance

Hi Velvet Yes, spotting. It then becomes some data for your own reference. It wont have any effect on ov prediction as it is not a fertility sign (like EGCM, temps and CP)

If you record it as anything heavier FF will consider it your period, close the cycle and start a new chart for you.

Hope this is implantation bleed - it could be couldnt it?

xxxx

YouRemindMe well done on persevering with the link...
You've definitely had 3 temps higher than the previous 6, and I think it's using the last day of EWCM and your stats to say ov on day 20.

Orange you really are being put through it, aren't you.

Nickster congratulations on the new role, but sorry about missing time with DS. Is this something you applied for?

Velvetcu, yup I'd put down spotting. Do you think it's ovulation? Good idea to take advantage

Sorry not posting a huge amount - I can feel myself heading into the cave...need to keep head down a bit while I try to maintain sanity.

Velvet I had pink cm this month too for first time ever. Just recorded it as spotting so as not to throw ff into whole new cycle confusion. It really threw me - do you reckon it's ov bleed? I had it two days in a row, cd16/17

MamaP near folks would be great - shame it was too near another good one. Step away from dpo symptom spotting - it is the road to 2ww mentalling!!! I think there are loads of symptoms around the 5dpo mark which may be due to having hit the mark but given 75% don't get past this point it is best not to know. In any case most on here, inc me seem to have been certain just prior to getting a bfp that they were not preggers. I think the symptoms are just too similar.

Nix fulltime is hard ((((hugs)))) - it will only be for 6 months max maybe 5 if you take early mat leave. Will it give you better mat leave? I may need to go fulltime next month which will be a complete shock as I am struggling with getting back into any work after 3 months off. Poor miniNix willie.

Loola love the idea of supersperm

Morning all - nix great that new job sounds interesting but sorry you're not feeling too good about the full-time. Work keep asking me if I want to do more hours (only going from 15-20) and that's scary enough!!! Oddly though it's what I was pushing for before the mc, but because it all happened at a time when I was really stressed with work, working till past midnight and boss being am arse, I struggle to disassociate the two and just don't feel the same about taking on all that extra hassle until I'm where I want to be on the family front if that makes sense? It's a hard juggling act

Having said that, I'm sure it would be more interesting working more hours because I would be more included and taken more seriously and get better work, so I'm sure there are loads of advantages in what you're doing. Also, remember it's a finite situation until mat leave, and you have a right to request flexible working when you return, if that's what you want.

Morning all! daddysgirl have you poased yet?

dachs good luck for follicke scan today!

On the swi frequency front, we tried going for every other/every three nights. This month we made a special effort around ov and did every night for 5 nights no idea if that made the difference but I read somewhere that every day is ok if dh has 'normal' swimmer production. Every other/every three days is the usual recommendation though. mummya I've also read swimmer should be cleared out at least every 10 days.

I'm having a panic here that I'm not feeling tired/sick/sore boobed enough. Any words of reassurance? I'm 17 dpo and the CB Digital is still saying 2-3 weeks (which is right of course, but I'm impatient for it to in up!).