Feck off with your babydust - The hut of gl/doom, home of inadequate reproduction

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ok, so the hut disappeared so I decided to open a new one. tis a 20's style gin joint!

hairy, my heart is breaking for you. have some brie for me. there isnt a blood test for egg quality iirc, thats why we were turned down for ivf. sorry if i confused you. ellan, agree, just as frustrating to not get pg. welcome brokeoven, sorry you are here.
in other news, i told dh. then burst into tears. did another test which was bfp and just praying now. i feel ok. tired but not sick. got a little dizzy at my nephews party, but am weeing for england. good job, i need an excuse to gusset-check.

weeing and emotion good signs lissie - I never felt that sick either.

Hairy - I am 38 so into the bad zone .

I think mc experience worse ( I also had messed up experience with needing an erpc after being conservative management) than actual childbirth. i was so fucking frigthtened (sorry about language) and so taken aback by pain that it really shock me up (I am still scared thinking abotu it) Your mindset with actual birthi is different then , i used hypno birthing and then had epidural at the end. And if your body has been through it once (ie started to dilate fully) it should be easier this time.

I really hope it goes as well as can be expected and is over quickly.

there are some good cheesy romantic films on if you have sky- I found that this is the time to reread your jilly cooper type stuff too hairy - anythign to take your mind off things.

Thanks Lissie. My heart is breaking too :( I am ok half the time, and then about once or twice a day I have to go to bed in tears and sleep because it hurts too much.

I just want it over with now and to go back to work on Monday afternoon, and get on with life.

and congrats on your BFP that's fab news :)

Thanks for the words of advice Sleazey. I think you are right about the mindset being different. I was really frightened last time too - at least I know what to expect this time, and we are only 25 mins from the hospital if needed.

good idea to get back to work if you feel up to it ( i was back in work too as soon as I could) -but take it easy. I think it does take months to get over it emotionally (one of reasons I am glad to hang out on here is that I find the ingratitude of people moaning about their younger children, pregnancy on some of the other threads or in rl just too much). I also swear that you can come down with stuff more easily just after a mc (prob no shock).

I hear ya sleazy.

I took a month off last time because I was mental! And to be honest this pregnancy in jan was probably too soon ... Six weeks after the last mc. So I know I'm not over that one emotionally let alone this one.

I also find people moaning about their kids difficult (and people "planning a baby for November"). Oh to have back that naivety of never having had a mc or difficulties conceiving! I mean that in the nicest possible way, I just don't think most people know
what it's like.

Thanks for chatting to me it's really helped.

no probs - nice to chat to you. I also find the ordering of babies particularly hard - Its not ocado (and I would love to be in that position so I will admit its jealousy).

6 weeks does sound quick - but can I just say that it does sound like you are doing something right to get pregnant so quickly (I know that is zero consolation though to be in your position).

If you aren't one of the acupuncture types, that was a massive help for me in getting over and sucessfully conceiving (I certainly wasnt much more careful on diet or anything).

Hairy - sorry to hear you are going through trauma again with another mmc.

Lissie -, I'll have a drink for you, I just pray that this time the paracetomol and asprin do something to help. Are you taking 75mg or 150 or 300mg of asprin? If I get pg again I have been told by Dr Rai to take 150mg asprin daily, but my local consultant has now told me from 7dpo(!!!!) to take progesterone, asprin 75mg and heprin injections...... I am bemused why to take heperin so early, and not sure I will do this, will wait til 6 weeks I think.

Anyway, enough about me, this time is about you, I will be anxiously waiting over the next few days, hoping that you don't get a fever.

(quiet) congratulations lissie! the signs are good this time, no?
quick word of caution on the paracetamol front though: don't take it if you don't have a temp as it won't help to keep it down (common misconception) it only works when you actually have the temp and you don't want to take anything you don't need.
all the best my lovely, will be keeping an eye out for (many over the next 9 months) regular updates

hairy, thinking of you today x

thank you broccoli and galway, Im so scared, am approaching that 5w mark and can barely breath. i had trapped wind last night so panicked a bit but everything seems fine so far. but an hour is a long time in ftc. i am all over the place and have used a roll of loo paper wiping. i cant lose another bean, i really cant. dont think i have it in me to be strong if this fails.

lissielou - , you are so strong to be where you are now. You have done well to get to where you are now with fighting the idiot doctors, I really hope and pray that this idea with the paracetomol works for you. I wish they would give you the other options too, but you can get through these next few days. This time it might just be the one that works, try to focus on the possibility of this bean actually beating the odds. Can you distract yourself with something, to try to forget about it for today?

I am feeling helpless to help Lissie, it is so frustrating, in my cupboards, I have antibiotics, LDN and prednisolone, all the things that could potentially help. I just wish I could magically give them to help you. I am feeling at your doctors. Sorry this is probrably not helpful to you Lissie, but I am just so frustrated for you.

it helps so much to know that you understand my lack of excitement/enthusiasm. at cons on friday so will ask for a scan there and then as well as any drugs he has available. at the cinema with ds, and dh is doing all cooking/cleaning today so i can rest. have woken v early all week so tired.

No lissie- it's very hard. Its not a thing of complete joy when you get a bfp until you know you are out of your danger zone (whatever that is). And even after that toy worry obsessively- including the birth. I didn't breath out til got dd score after birth.

Take it easy-

lissie am still keeping everything crossed for you.
hairy how are you feeling today?? Have been thinking of you.
Off to see MC consultant tomorrow, not expecting anything positive, just more results of blood tests though did find out I'm not immune to rubella anymore so need to sort that out.
lissie my SIL lent me a doppler as she'd had one MC which made her completely paranoid and used to use it every day - I used it at about the 10 week stage and couldn't find a heart beat when I had my 12 week MMC. Naively didn't really set the alarm bells ringing but if I get PG again will use it more as would prefer to know if I'm heading for another MMC. All very negative (or positive if you get a nice healthy heart beat) but unfortunately that's the way it is.

fuck it. temp is creeping up, i feel ill. taken a couple of paracetamol and no cramps etc yet but waiting.

Oh lissie - I hope its ok - I was always burning up when pregnant

All done and I'm home. Wasntlt as bad as I thought and was off my face on pethedine and gas n air.

Passed the sac easily and was glad I saw it as it meant I knew it was complete.

Glad ti hear it wasn't as bad as you thought. Will be thinking of you today. Take it easy, look after yourself.

hairy, hope you are ok today.

bad news from me. temp spiked last night with vomiting, shivering and cramps. started bleeding this morning. i feel dreadful.

Oh no lissie, I'm so so sorry. It's so unfair :(

thank you. i feel so bad. i cant believe this happening again. why wont the docs listen to me. i have a high WBC count due to teitze's and get ill right before i mc. its not bloody rocket science, ffs. im so angry. this could have been avoided.

Lissie, I am so sorry that this has happened again . You have every right to be angry, the doctors are idiots. I really hope that you take this anger to your next appointment and make sure that this time they get it through their thick heads what is going on . They are to blame for this happening again, and they need to realise that you do know what is best in this situation and that they need to deal with it. I am so so sorry that you are having to go through this again.

So sorry Lissie :(

lissie I'm so sorry, I've been willing everything to go well - wish I could fulfil my 2nd dream of winning the lottery and then I could pay for all of us to receive the best private medical treatment there is.