Charter's Anonymous: Volume 4, hoping our bodies obey the rules!

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Brand new shiny thread created (sorry Getdown, I am bored at work )

Hoping that all of us still waiting get the news we want and soon!!

At least it's almost New Year, new start

AuntieD I am sorry you are sad :(
How long have you been ttc? If it helps, I was 3 months off 36 when I conceived DD and that was after 12 months of ttc.
Like you, I felt pregnancy was something that happened to others, but not to me.
Have been ttc No2 for 5 months and getting same feelings back. It is so hard isn't it?
If only we had a crystal ball.

Is it worth going to your GP?
Keep your chin up and remember 90% of all couples DO conceive within 24 months.

MrsP another temp rise! Looking good.

Morning everyone. Getdown how you feeling? Got over the shock yet?

Ooh almost forgot. I have a qn:

Since charting and seeing the acupuncturist, I have realised that the terrible 'pressure' sinus headaches that plague my evenings only happen pre ov.
Post ov I don't get them until af arrives.

Anyone heard of this? TCOYF mentions Post ov headaches but not pre.

And a 2nd one: if my PMT arrives about a week before af, then even if I conceive that cycle, I will still get PMT as the bean won't have implanted by cd 5 (lp of 12). Correct?

Ta!

mrsP - wanna swap charts??

This is our 5th month of trying. I mean AF hasn't even arrived yet this month and I am already tearful. I feel so stupid!

We are going to Hong Kong for a week at the beginning of February which would bugger up any chance of temping. Going to just try and relax next month. If I am still pregnant after that I will go and see my GP.

It's just so hard. Made harder by the fact my younger sister us due her second baby in March.

I am really tearful today and seriously don't want to go to work!!!

Heh not pregnant I mean!

Thanks raven and battery. Well temps went down but only a bit so FF has given me OV at cd10 - crap!! If it is the case I'm out and if i have a 11 day lp again thats only a 21 day cycle! but just in case I'll do some more SWI.
Hope you are both ok today?
battery when will you next see DP to SWI?

Looking good MrsP

Tory sorry for temp drop but don't give up till she arrives!

AuntD sorry you are feeling down, I think we all have good days and bad on this emotional journey. Chin up!

Battery welcome back, I had a MC on christmas day and was previously OV-ing on day 15/16, temps seem to be in right pre-OV range but CD20 and no OV yet.

BUT cervix is still high and has opened slightly so I am really hoping for a +ve OPK today. Now just have to figure out how to do that during an all day meeting with lawyers?!?

Oh, and morning everyone else!

Sorry, AuntD just re-read and my "chin up" sounds really belittling of your feelings, I didn't mean it that way, just in a keep going / don't get too down way IYSWIM?!?

S'ok Terry, I didn't feel belittled!

DH is being v. supportive but I know he doesn't really know what to say. I find these forums really helpful but also wonder whether they make me obsess even more! IYKWIM!

Thanks for asking how I am MrsA. Had a bit of a shock this morning Woke up having slept really really well (first time in ages) and stupidly took my temp. It had dropped quite a lot, and I didn't feel really sicky at all

So I rushed and did a test - well I used an OPK first (as know they show positive when pregnant too). Anyway that came back a really dark line. Did another first response test after that. The line seemed to be slightly darker pink than the one I did a few days ago, BUT both lines (test and control line) were THINNER... what does that mean?

Still not feeling very sicky. Am panicking because this is very reminiscent of my MC last time. Please someone slap me. I know I shouldn't have taken my temp this morning. It's freaked me out a bit. Do you think it could have dropped because I had a really good night's sleep maybe?

GetDown can I show you my chart. I had to stop temping because 4 days of falling temperatures nearly sent me round the twist. So far I seem to be ok (but obviously have no actual clue, damn the lack of see through abdomen!)

Thinner lines - probably just different batch of tests/manufacturing difference. I've had a couple of thinner ones too but I don't think there's anything to read into it.

Enjoy your non sicky day and eat plenty as I am sure you will be feeling crap again by teatime or tomorrow!

The good night's sleep may well account for the lack of sickness - I always feel much less nauseous if I am well rested.

I'm sure you're fine, but it is terrifying I know x

Thank you so much spilt for your reassurance, you are so lovely. I know that temps can fluctuate quite a bit, thanks for sharing your chart (looked back at my preg chart with DD too and there were some low-ish temps in the early days too). I know I need to stop temping. And also nausea can fluctuate quite a bit too can?t it?. And like you, I find the nausea less when I?m well rested. So hopefully all will be ok. I know I should just enjoy the break from the sickness and the fact I slept well. Hopefully I will get some more symptoms later. Have slightly sore boobs today, although one more so than the other Am comforted that the tests are still showing positive anyway. On the day of my MC the line was considerably fainter. But still am so scared I hate this rollercoaster of emotions

No problem, hope you're ok.

Just had the horrible experience of trying to sort out the right pigs ear the NHS have made of my scan/antenatal care bookings

After the consultant we saw for Bobbie's results said to come back to him with our next pregnancy and wrote to our GP to say he would like to see me next time, the antenatal clinic decided to book me with someone else more junior. When I rang up to change it back to him they told me he was busy and his caseload had to prioritised . So I told them he wanted to see us thank you and they changed it. Then had to sort out the scan appointment as we'd been sent it for the wrong hospital . Correct hospital "can't book that far in advance"... It is only 3.5 weeks away! So I have got to wait until they can send that through.

As if it wasn't stressful enough . I feel like they see me as a faceless patient number not a scared bereaved newly pregnant again mum who is scared shitless and finds it hurtful to be brushed off as a troublemaker and told I don't warrant seeing the consultant who wants to see me!

This is quite aside from the fact that the GP said they would arrange an early scan for 6-7 weeks. The hospitals say no you aren't having one. And here I am at 8+3 feeling not very looked after.

Oh Spilt they are being rubbish, hon. Can you get a private one (you shouldn't have to but I know how valuable the reassurance is).

Just got back from nuchal scan and went brilliantly. Really pleased and feeling much relieved and baby all in good shape and very cute. Very happy.

Sorry not to name check more but need to get back to work

Thanks Lady we probably will get a private one done. Anybody heard of these guys and any opinions on them? They seem to be the most local and cheapest ones for private scans.

We'll probably leave it until about 10 weeks. I have to apply for my job by the time I am 11+5 if I want to keep it, so I could really do with knowing by then if things are ok inside.

terrys that sucks, what awful timing. But sounds like your body has bounced back fairly quickly.

AuntieDoris sorry to hear you're feeling down. As someone who feels like I've been ttc longer than not I can sympathise with those feelings of just not knowing what's going to happen while everyone else seems to be ticking off boxes with ease. I won't say it WILL HAPPEN, coz I get annoyed when people say that to me (especially after 3 mc's). But it is VERY LIKELY to happen and all you can do is keep the faith. And remember that for every easily conceived pregnancy there is a couple out there who have had to give it a lot more effort. You're not alone.

mrsa I have weird pre-ov things too. I get a rash on my fingers and occasionally a mouth ulcer. But once I've ov'ed it all clears up and disappears. I put it down to progesterone. However, I do get the odd spot post-ov. Maybe I'm just a hormonal mess.

battery v interesting about nurofen delaying ov. Although I've never found I wanted to delay it - can you ask her what to do to bring it forward?!

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Temp]] and cervix confusing me this morning. Cerivx is still closed, but not the usual luteal phase shape. I'm wondering if it's because I've stopped taking agnus castus. I just wanted to see how my body would fair without it. My last cycle was definitely ovulatory (felt ovulation cramps and AF was v red and heavy) but temps were all over the place that FF couldn't give pinpoint a date.

So, not feeling particularly positive about this cycle. On top of that DH's semen analysis has come back below par, despite me getting 3 BFPs in under 12 months. But consultant doesn't want to discuss what this means till DH does a repeat test (in 3/4 weeks).

x posts

That's fab news ladyggg

Not so fab spilt. Are you in London? My hospital, Whittington in N London now has a walk-in clinic for early scans. And I think there's one in St George's in Tooting, S London. Worth asking on pregnancy board if anyone knows of any hospitals that do this near you if you're outside London. Also, get your DP to pester on your behalf, you shouldn't have to be stressing about this all by yourself.

ladyG WHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP! fab news xx

Spilt rubbish!!!!!!!! gah if only we could all afford private midwife led portland hospital styley care!!!!

getdown step away from the thermometre! my nausea comes and goes so does boob tenderness.

terrys good to see you are up and at it again!!

digi welcome back

((hugs)) to all who need them..... xxxxxx and big kisses too

Im ok...cracking on being mega busy at work and not a moment to myself these days!!

love to all xx

spilt am so sorry you are having to deal with incompetent people and fight your way through the "system".. well done for standing your ground re. the consultant. It's great that you will get to see him after all. How annoying that they said "he is busy his appointments have to be prioritised" Having been through what you've been through, I fail to see how you could not have been a priority. Thank goodness he said he would want to see you again in your next pregnancy.

Also bad about the scans. Round here, you don't even get a booking in appointment until you are 12 weeks. In fact you don't get to see anyone before 12 weeks for any reassurance, only the GP, who ticks the box and waves you out again. I hope you manage to arrange a private one and have your mind put at ease. I've never heard of the people you linked to, but they look reputable enough and £60 seems reasonable.

LadyG so pleased your nuchal scan was all fine that is good news. Are you still taking the aspirin? I stopped after 3 days since I don't know my MC was caused by any kind of clotting prob, but wondering whether to start it again.

hi digitalgirl and welcome back. Sorry for all the heartache you've been through I've only had 1 MC, but I know how devastating it is, let alone having 3. Hope that you've just been unlucky and there is not anything underlying, hope next time will be fine. Tried to look at your link, but it's coming up with something else??? Re. your DH I would worry too much, if you've got BFPs I think they are prob fine - sperm numbers can vary kind a lot between samples I think.

Well, as for me, still not feeling very sicky. Am just trying to make the most of it and not worry too much.

x-post with nix hi there love, thanks, I know I need to step away from the thermometer it's doing my head in. You know how some people accidentally POAS, well I accidentally temped this morning Speaking of which, where's MrsP

Thanks GetDown, it's hard trying to fight people! I hate confrontation and usually back down straight away but I am determined to stand up for this baby (if not for myself) so at least I can never look back and say "if only I'd pushed harder, maybe it would have worked out". For my own sanity I need to know I and the docs are doing all they can.

digi lovely to see you back my dear. What tests have they done for you? Remind me when did you used to ovulate? I agree CD8 seems very early and you say your cycles are 28-40 days, so I'm inclined to agree with you that it is more likely to be CD12.

MrsP chart still looks good. Anymore POAS action or are you waiting a bit? Looks like your usual LP is 12 days and no sign of a temp drop yet! This could well be it

Pippa I wouldn't worry about your timing, it looks very good. You had several days of EWCM and that is what the swimmers need to survive so there will be plenty there. Just have to cross fingers that they did actually find the egg now!

ladyg that's fab news :)

mrsP are you there? Have you tested again yet? Fingers crossed for you.

split sorry you are having a crappy time. I'm like you and easily back down, maybe you should get your DP to try. It'll put your mind at ease x

nix hope you are ok and hope you find time to have a rest, you'll need it x

auntied sorry you are having a down day, I get them too - one of those is today! :(. Hope you are feeling better about it all soon.

getdown put the thermometer down! It's no good as it just seems to make you worry. :)

Waves to terrys mrsa pippa battery raven ladybee izzy Jaggy Tory truffkin and anyone I may have missed.

Not happy today. Stupid body better sort itself out!

thanks Iwish BTW don't despair. Don't believe FF, I think she's wrong about your chart. Don;t think you've ov'd yet. Just keep on SWI and checking CM.

Hello lovely ladies :)

lady that is really good news - am so pleased for you x

split I hate the way hospitals just treat you like a number, you fight for your rights, and don't let them fob you off xx

digi I want to delay Ov as if I ov during the week it's a bit of a nightmare as I only see DP on occasional weekends will ask about bringing it on!!

iwish how are you feeling today? I know how you feel about wanting your body to sort itself out - mine is doing my head in right now.

getdown put your thermometer away lady

auntied Rubbish days are well...rubbish, tomorrow will be brighter xxx

mrsp any news???

Hello to everyone else xx

Well oddly enough whilst I was lying on the acupuncture couch last nightwith ~I felt a sharp pain on the right - and sure enough temps are up this morning, so think I may have OVd yesterday. I saw DP on Sunday and SWI then so I don't think I am in the running this month. I have however organised mine and dps' flights for next month - have had tp put some holiday in etc but what the hell.

Also - if any one tells me to 'relax and will happen' I may have to resort to violence. I feel like saying thanks for that valuable insight you stupid f* wit but I still have to have sex at the right time of the month. And breathe.