By hook or by crook we will shag our way to victory - thread for the JSing viroids

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The (updated) (again) 'rules' from our Just Shagging Originator for the Viroids:

Maintain a relaxed attitude at all times - drink if you want too, especially on your birthday (or when you?ve had bad news). Thread precedent dictates if you drink to excess you will get a BFP (but not recommended).

Covet thy husband and enjoy every minute. Shag at every opportunity - shag-capes and awesome superpowers optional.

Keep acronym-age to a minimum! EWCM is now to be referred to as 'pant snot'. Try not to get sucked in by Fertility Friend (at least for a while), but knowing where you are in your cycle and furkling for pant snot is most definitely allowed.

Bunting is to be put out for any small victory, thread-parties are held regularly and hugs are always welcome!

Once you have your BFP, feel free to hang around and share your wisdom and virtual cocktails with the JSers.

Keep us up to date with gossip!

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Most of these rules are well and truly broken!! But we try to chill - honest

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Part 1 Graduates:
Tanmu82 - BFP
PrivetDancer - BFP
OnlyWantsOne - BFP
Frankenfanny ? BFP
Notso - BFP
knittakid - BFP
loopeylu - BFP
PinkFondantFancy - BFP
Grannyapple ? BFP
Fuzzywood - BFP
canoe - BFP
janedoe - BFP
StarflowerGirl - BFP

Part 2 Graduates:
ihaveaplan - BFP
lovemylulu - BFP
shitforbrains - BFP
gormers - BFP

Part 3 Graduates
Bonkerz - BFP
Kitten - BFP
Cowboylover - BFP
takingtheplunge ? BFP

Part 4 Graduates:
NoMoreChocBiscuits - BFP
Milanomum - BFP
TakeThatLady - BFP
Cremegg - BFP
BrassicaBabe - BFP
Dynababy - BFP

Shout if I've missed anyone

Glad ur feelin better Nelly

I have NYE dilemma - been invited 2 a party but as I'm either 10 or 8 DPO, shud I avoid drinking just in case

No josie don't avoid it, far too early!! I'm still feeling a bit sensitive otherwise I'd be nailing in to it too. .

No AF yet but very bad cramps... did an IC and had a faint line and have done a Sainsbury's test and got a very faint plus.... maybe it is the month of the mog after all. DH still refusing to believe it although he acknowledges that there is a cross on the pee stick. My brain is confused, feels like AF is coming as cramps so bad. Keep thinking it could be a false +ve.

I can still have a glass of champagne tonight right? Don't avoid drinking Josie and glad you are feeling better Nervous.

Sorry, shell-shocked!

Oh, tentative excitement for you mog!? Drink if you feel comfy with it. Feeling smug as haven't had a drinks for 2 months and a day (calculated like a true alcoholic)! Craving red wine though. Tonight will be tough as we are off out for steak! Already had to call them, as it is a set menu, to say I can't have the starter - ceviche - which is my FAVE. Still, small price to pay.

I remain symptom-less here. Although my boobs begin to ache at the end of my running sessions (which are now conpletely laid back so no reason for them too) I know I will wish it gone the second it starts but a but more aching or sickness would be reassuring! Uterus feels quite hard but all to one side, not centrally, so off course I became intimately aquainted with google and 'eptopic pregnancy' today....

Just leaves me to say happy new year to one and all xxx

I didn't drink anything except fizzy water! Did another IC today and got a faint line again. Want to go and get a FR but DH is now on COD (since MiL left today) as he says he has to get it in as much as he can now. Excuses excuses!

Still getting crampy feelings on and off throughout the day.

Oh and Nervous, I forgot to say enjoy rocking out with your slanket .

Just re-read the first bit, acronym-tastic!!

Made chilli in the slow-cooker a few days ago but then had to freeze it as ended up staying at a friends for dinner. Currently doing a lamb thing, hope it turns out OK. Mmm... "lamb thing".... sounds appetising

Happy New Year everyone! Hope everyone enjoyed their evening yesterday. We went for dinner with friends from our church. I felt quite grim and considered cancelling but they rang to say their other guests were ill and not coming so I felt extra guilty and went anyway. I was convinced I was going to be sick when I got out of the car, but made it into their house and it turns out that bread sticks and cucumber are quite good for staving off nausea.

tentative congrats to Mog. As everyone on here told me a few weeks ago, a line is indeed a line!

Vallinna congrats again. Apart from slightly sore boobs I didn't have any symptoms for ages. Now at 7+3 (by my counting) I'm feeling grotty but not really pg IYSWIM. I'm tired, probably ratty, feel nauseous and faint, but haven't been sick (yet) and feel nothing except trapped wind in the abdominal area, apart from the AF like cramps which wake me up some nights when I'm convinced that I'm either going to miscarry or that I've been imagining it all along and it's just AF turning up late as usual .
I guess you'll be monitored closely? I don't get to see anyone until my 12 week scan after my initial hopeless GP appointment. Wish I had a point of contact really as I don't know who I'd be in touch with if something went wrong or even just for any questions.

Esk do you not have a booking in appt with a midwife before your 12 week scan?! How strange.

Caz really sorry you feel you have to leave us, we will miss you. The very best of wishes. If you feel up to it in the future do come back, eve if just to say Hello. xx

Mog tentative congrats for you. I have a feeling there is going to be quite a bit of bunting in the near future

Also Linna (that sounds weird, but I often shorten vannilla to nilla, soo) is it possible to have an ectopic with IVF?

Had a lovely night last night. Went to bed at 10 and went to sleep. DH and I are such rebels

Hi all. Sitting whilst DH watching Just William. Nearly as much as a rebel as Mr NMCB!!

Congrats to Mog. It certainly sounds like you are up-duffed! Yay!! Will need to get the bunting ready, as NMCB suggested.

I can imagine it would be v odd not having any contact with anyone regarding this immense thing that is happening! "Lamb thing" sounds intriguing!

We had a boring and non-eventful NYE. We stayed in and watched TV! We had a bottle of wine, but DH was so dull and didn't even want to finish it or get drunk or play games or anything. Sigh.

Had a thought. It was just as well that I took a HPT last week before ERTD decided to come. Cos if I hadn't, I would always have wondered if I was pg was was so late and then had an early miscarriage. At least I know I was never pg so no need to be upset! IYSWIM.

NMCB no, nothing until I have a 12 week scan. It seems way too long to wait. My GP appt was useless, all she did was tell me off for not knowing which of 3 local hospitals I want to give birth in! And when I asked about earlier appts or even the flu jab the response I got was basically that if I have a miscarriage it would be a waste of resources so best to wait until after the scan.
I do really wish I had some sort of appt sooner, but I hope I'll hear from the hospital in the next week or 2 and at least have a scan date.

Miffs and NMCB are defo the rebs among us!

I totally see what you mean Miffs. And the "lamb thing" was quite nice except that it needed some kind of starchy thing in it, like potatoes. I did it for 4 hrs on high, then took lamb off the bone (shredded it) and put back in for another hour so there would be no rare bits (just in case).

Esk your GP sounds bad :( That is rubbish. Sounds totally unsupportive. Can you get in contact with a local midwife unit or anything? Seems like you need (or should be entitled to) more reassurance and help than they are giving you.

Happy New Year everyone! Mog sounds good, a line is a line! Congrats and sticky dust to you.

Esk GP does sound bad (who says if you have a miscarriage we bare wasting resources!?!)

I have had an interesting week... but feeling pretty :( Went to the gynae as I had a pain on my right lower abdomen for about 10 days. She did the full MOT (as I hadn't been for a while and they are obsessive with smear tests here) and she had a scan of my ovaries/womb etc etc (she even gave me a little picture... hmmm)
She could not find a cyst, but after a discussion about my cycle dates she has suggested I have a series of tests to see if I am ovulating (as well as FSH, LH etc etc etc) on the second day of my cycle.

I seem to not have ov'ed this month (first month of DH back after 3 months away, when I did ov according to opk and pant snot evidence)... and on top of all that I now have a UTI. Argh... Went hiking yesetrday and was in agony, got home and felt pretty bad until DH went to pharmacy and picked up antibiotics and cranberry juice pills (as normal shops closed on Friday night and are not open until tomorrow morning). Feeling slightly better, and can go have a wee without masses of pain, but now feeling down about this month... I had so looked forward to trying again...

Oh... and my mother gave DH and me a pair of baby gloved for Xmas... in front of all our friends and family. The look on our faces must have said it all...

Oh my God escape what an untactful present.

vallinna wooooooooooohoooooooooo!!!! Congratulations! We've both been on here a similar amount of time, along with bb, and now we're all upduffed. Ye-hay! And it's the month of mog too! Congratulations ladies, what great Christmas presents for you both.

So sorry you've been poorly nervous - hope you recovered in time for Guitar Hero on NYE :)

Been off here for ages. Talking of people with no tact we threw a surprise birthday party for my mum's 50th on the 30th December. I was constantly confronted by people I hadn't met since I was 10 who thought it was perfectly okay to introduce themselves by grabbing and poking my belly .

Worse than that though, my mum's half-sister who is 32 and has been ttc for a good few years came - we don't see her very often at all and she had a long drive to be at the party. By the time she arrived the party was basically over but my mum was quite drunk. Somebody told her I was pregnant. Then my mum yelled out in front of a room of people 'when are you having your operation', which ended up with the whole room wanting to know what it was for (blocked fallopian tube, and exploratory). Then my brother started yelling out 'what's a blocked fallopian tube?', which my mum explained across the room to him, prompting a lengthy discussion about infertility. My mum then told her I had one ovary (I don't - they just couldn't find one on the scan) but had conceived anyway. When the girl and her husband left the party, some of the older people (most of whom she didn't know, or barely knows) started shouting out 'good luck with the operation', 'hope you get unblocked' and so on. My nan then shouted out 'we'll be egging you on' and when she wasn't sure if her hilarious joke had been heard she went running through the house to catch up with the girl and repeated it at the top of her voice.

I wanted to die, and I'm sure my mum's sister was pretty damn angry , though if she was she hid it well. Grrrrr!

In other news I am 15 weeks today but have had spotting of old brown blood for the last 2 days now. Rang the EPU who said 'it's watch and wait. You might miscarry, you might not. It's probably normal', which freaked me out even more. Trying to remain calm.

Happy New Year to all the viroids, and congrats on all the brilliant news!

Happy New Year one and all!! We were out with friends and everyone pissed bar me obviously, but felt good knowing hangover free NYD (first since approx 15 years of age!) and also that 2011 would be the year of the baby!!!

Mog massive congratulations! A line is a line is a line!!

Esk your GP sounds charming... I'd be requesting someone else next time. Did they not give you the number for the midwifes so you can call if you need anything?? Maybe phone docs and find that out so you feel a wee bit more secure and can also confirm your booking appt?

escape your doc sounds good and try and think positive that by doing a bit of exploring if thereare probs you can get them sorted out, its a bit daunting but so much they can do if there is a prob.

TTL glad to have you back ..now I only wish BB would pop in and let us know how she is! Really sorry to hear about brown spotting, happens a lot though and everything fine so every wish that you join that same contingent

Happy new year everyone

Goodness there's some tactless people out there!

TTL hope everything is ok but if they think it's normal it probably is (hugs)

Nothing to report yet again here. This 2ww seems to be taking a lot longer than the last few! Should get an answer this weekend though, due friday

Happy new year everyone. My what, ummm, interesting times some of you poor people have been having with the tact-free people in your lives!

Escape fingers crossed with the tests.

Got checked out at the clinic this morning. Ovaries still a bit swollen - ironically the right more than the left (swelling on left side...!)

Couldn't see anything on the scan, there was a small 'empty' looking area in my uterus but he said it was too early to tell if it was a fold or a sac. Scan being repeated on 10th Jan

HCG levels around 1500 which is a little low apparently but it's only a number until Tuesday when the test will be repeated.

Not huge piece of mind...just a waiting game. :(

Fingers crossed for Tues HCG test vallinna and next scan. Hope 10th Jan doesn't take too long to arrive. Stay positive xxx

Sorry you feel down and not 100% well Escape. Also what was your mother thinking?! At least your HCPs seem competent.

TTL what a cringeworthy party . to you too whilst you follow scary-sounding medical advice re spotting.

Josie hope you're not pulling your hair out with all the waiting yet. Good luck to you! Maybe there is an egg/sperm convo going on in there now.....

In mogland one was woken at 3.30am with horrific cramps. Thought that the worst was happening. Staggered to bathroom, nothing happened (except a bit of farting ). Went back to bed and got DH to give me hugs. Did IC cheapy this morning and had two lines, then got FR this afternoon which was also BFP. Still a bit freaked out mind. After googling about cramps apparently it is the uterus changing shape. How can something the size of a poppy seed cause so much pain?! DH keeps saying how he is glad he is man. I have managed not to punch him... yet...

Hugs and mogness xxx

mog it may be trapped wind

TTL what a stupid person, how dare they say that to you. Am raging on your behalf.

ooh TTL I didn't know that about the 6 week mark. I thought it was all risky until 12 weeks. Will rest a little easier knowing that. I think I'm going to ring the surgery on Tuesday and book in for the flu jab anyway - I teach very young kids and their concept of hygiene is non-existent. Also secretly glad to be reminded about your wind/ectopic issue. I've had wind the last few days, I know that's what it is, but that didn;t stop me waking DH in the night wanting to go to a&e! 3 farts later and its mostly gone!
Hope your spotting resolves itself soon. and at the attitude of the person at the hospital. I hope you get some joy from the GP or whoever you try next.

TTL - wenches! Seriously, all you want is some TLC and reassurance, which is probably all you need. FFS - I know the medical profession need to remain professional but a touch of humanity wouldn't go a miss. My doc today was very nice but also very matter of fact but the nurses were so lovely and positive I wanted to hug them. They were saying exactly the ame thing as the doc but at the same time it just felt a bit nicer. Such a simple thing.

I digress, I wanted to say the from what I have read, brownish spotting is nothing really to be concerned about. Apparently :) I hope it all resolves itself xxx

Hi all. Can I sign on as a JSer? I was rather chuffed with my cunning plan as yesterday I went to la senza for a sales spree and today offered DH the choice of my under attire before going out - worked exceedingly well and I got a shag on our return.

Based on your excellent advice I am tempted to go and look in the kitchen for some wine, a great step forwards as my previous internet perusings had led me to start giving my teapot suspicious looks. Don't want decaf, I want proper tea.

You all seem to know a lot. I am a newbie (not to shagging the DH, or entirely to TTC) but this would be the ideal month to conceive, thanks very much, so I thought I'd wade in here in the absence of a ffwd-to-peesticks button and keep myself ticking over.

Congrats to the preggers, happy shagging to everyone :)

Welcome crackpot, you sound like you'll fit right in Well done on the La Senza-inspired shagging. I have a lovely La Senza bra I bought about 3 days before I got pregnant. It fitted properly for about two weeks, and then it cut my boobs in half. I persisted though (it was REALLY pretty...)

Thanks for the raging ladies, knew I could rely on you - and knew I could rely on you for a good insult or two. Wenches! Love it.

Well anyway, I caved and went to the A&E after reading that 2nd trimester spotting is never normal and should always be checked. Got another cheeky scan out of it (that's my 3rd now - and I've got 3 more to go. I am a scanaholic), and all is absolutely fine. No probs, wriggling baby. So crisis averted.

But am now thinking of getting my revenge on the midwife unit. If I recognise the same lady's voice when I'm giving birth I might just accidentally let some pee out on her or something ...

eskarina it's definitely 12 weeks when the odds drop really low, but after 6 weeks it's still something like 85% success and 90-95 afte 8 weeks or something like that, so well worth giving people flu jabs. Don't quote me on those statistics but definitely the vast majority of pregnancies will be successful once they've stuck so the advice you got was so rude and so useless! GRRRRRR

vallinna sure those HCG levels are fine. They vary like crazy anyway and at least it means the T word might be back off the list! Glad the nurses were lovely - bet you can't wait until Tuesday. I hate waiting :)

night night viroids, happy shagging :)

Welcome crackpot - if your name is anything to go by you are in the right place

TTL glad you have piece of mind x

Thanks TTL and vallinna. I feel significantly welcomed.

I'm trying to distract myself with other things today. Back to work tomorrow so there's lots to do for that but I'm back to my two-track mind despite it, i.e. off roading fantasies and jumping the DH. Poor lad's got a slightly haunted look in his eye so I'm trying to rein it in - don't want to freak him out this early in the proceedings. And my land rover has a hole in the back. Trying to tempt him into the car to combine the two, but he just looks alarmed, bless his heart. I've ordered more from la senza.

TTL I think you should definitely pee on as many people during labour as you can. Perhaps it could form part of a birth plan? 6) Pee on her from next door
7) Pee on that sodding cat
8) Pee on midwife etc.
Haven't actually seen a birth plan, so that could be what they look like anyway.

Had a look at those CBFMs last night after reading...most of the conception forum. DH says they're a bit steep and unnecessary at this stage in the game. Tchuh. I just want to fiddle with gadgetry.

Hope all are busily shagging with gay abandon...

Welcome crackpot, I might borrow your la senza plan at some point

Glad your minds r at rest TTL and Eskarina

I'm waitin 4 ERTD 2 arrive on friday or sat. Had a bit of cramping past few days which isn't like me, but otherwise no real or imaginary symptoms!