TTC after MC, ERPC anyone want to join me??

[nurse47]

Hi ive been posting on the miscarrage forum but now feel ready to start all over again!
My story, Had my first MMC in nov 2007, followed by an erpc (worst moment of my life) this was my first pregnancy and i felt robbed. Waited for two periods and got pg with my little DD in feb 2008, i had a great pg and birth but was on constant knicker alert. We decided when she was two we would like another baby to add to the familiy, we decided to try in sept this year and got pg first time! (very shocked) I was so hoping this would be my time to have a stress free pg and actually enjoy the experience! How wrong i was, i started to spot at six weeks had a scan which showed a sac but no baby, i then enjoured the worst two week of my life by having scan and blood tests. I was told on the 8th on nov the pregnany was not going to continue and i had a blighted ovum, and on the 9th i had a erpc. I have recovered well and stopped bleeding the day after the procedure. I went to see my doc last week who told me i could start ttc asap as long as i feel up to it?? anyone else ttc straight away, last time i was told to wait and i did but this time i have read that there is no lit to say wait apart from to date the pg?? Im hoping there are some people who can share there experiences and someone who wants to join me!

Oh..... my..... goodness! Kitkey - wonderful news and congrats! No wonder you feel slightly weird but hope you are feeling good with it too. I'm so pleased, especially as you were so anxious re: choosing the ERPC option. Do stay on and spread your luck for the rest of us please!

wellie - down under - how exciting! Hope all the packing up and goodbyes go ok.

Have had some really, really light spotting for the last 2 days - only when I wipe, not even enough for a panty liner. Really don't know what is going on as AF now 8 days late.... will wait 1 more week and then see doc.

fredeliot - love the new nickname!

yellow and mrsb - any AF updates for us....?

Management conference for the last 2 days had its ups and downs and culminated in a karting competition this afternoon which I was a bit ho hum about to start with (especially as out of a group of 54, there was only me and one other female - can you imagine the testosterone pumping around?!) but loved it in the end and was by no means the slowest, despite a couple of spin-outs. DH away for 2 nights and while I miss him, am loving having a quiet house all to myself.

Waves to everyone x

Congrats kitkey, excellent news and as wombat points out, will hopefully lay to rest all the fears you had after the erpc.

Wombat, 8 days late, odd Have you done another test?
My AF is drawing to a close so I am in countdown to SWI from Saturday onwards I am eating brazil nuts and quoffing grapefruit juice in readiness, it's quite exciting, back to feeling hopeful. It's the 2ww that's the painful bit, I've ordered some more cheapie amazon tests and hope this is not a monthly ritual.

Good for you quoffing the juice sparkly - can you add a mixer in too to make it more exciting?!

Yes - it is odd, but last test was on Sat and it was a BFN. Poking boobs to see if there is any sign but nowt (other than sore from poking them so much!) If nothing appears, will do another test on weds as we have our work xmas party (yes, midweek and yes, nearly a whole month post xmas - I'm as baffled as you) and would like to indulge in a couple. Of course, Ashermans has crossed my mind once or twice a day - who knows?!

Wombat put those thoughts of Ashermans right away - you have had one AF right? Also you said you never got a smiley face on the OPK so maybe you haven't ovulated for a while. I would have had a 7 week cycle when I conceived DS2 - I ovulated 5 weeks after last period - I had just finished BF DS1 so that is why my cycles were wacky. I just did an ovualtion test that day as was having some cramps and the jumped on DH that night - keep SWI when you can.

MrsB33 poor you having flu and AF - chocolate is the order of the day.

Yellow is AF here or did she stay away?!

I have just done another first response test and then found out that superdrug tests are just a good and half the price so tried one and indeed they are - trying not to poas everyday but I can never help myself. Not testing until Thursday now- . I woke up with 3 big zits this am - as long as the bean stick I don't mind.

Have a lovely evening ladies - going to
eat some chicken pie and spinach

Mrs b - af and flu, yuk, sending a virtual hot toddy with lashings of something strong.

Ha ha fredelliot, love it. Particularly now all the peacocks have waved goodbye to the street :-)

Wellie, how exciting. My brother emigrated to oz a few years ago and he and his family are so happy with the lifestyle over there, have made lots of good friends as well. Hope all goes really well.

Wombat, karting sounds great. I've only done it once but loved it, glad you beat some of the boys! Spotting sounds confusing, 'xmas' party is a good excuse to test and good opportunity to drown sorrows if it's neg.

Good luck for your swi sparkly - enjoy!

News here is that I did my next dig test on saturday and it had gone up to 3+ weeks so, good news. Am going to make an appt for end of next week, that way I will be nearly 8 weeks so if I can get a referral for a scan hopefully it'll be around 10 weeks. Not that I've been obsessively checking dates.... Oh yes, and poking boobs too! Not sore yet. Sickness v slight and comes and goes.... Hey ho, just got to wait and see I guess. How are you feeling today kitkey?

Hi Wombat!! Yes, i'm here and lurking as usual :o

Massive congratulations to Mana and kitkey. Really, really pleased for you both. Such fantastic news.

Worm love your name change........will be so funny if you ever have to explain how that nickname came up!!!

I'm still sans period....boo!!! and still definately not pregnant (first responce on sat).....double boo!!! I am now 9 weeks and 1 day post erpc.
I think as a few of you have mentioned docs refering as up to 12 weeks to return to normal, i may leave it until it's been 11 weeks as they'll probably make me wait anyhow. As with worm, i have a trip to disney on the horizon which is keeping me occupied due to my daily flight watch to try and bag a bargain. We DIY it so lots to organise and keep me busy.

Hi to all and keep worm shuffling with bicycle legs :)

Af got me :(

me too yellow, we can be cycle buddies this month then?? Are you planning on doing anything different??
Im culling the alcohol for a whole month, see if it helps..
Did everything right last month, ov sticks, plenty of swi, not sure what happened.
My friend who does reflexology, kindly offered to start me with some reflexology from sunday b4 my ov dates, see if that helps??
worm think i missed the thread where your name changed?? Do tell??
Mana kitkey thanks for the virtual flu support, feel positively poo, but still managed to paint my lounge!! Im a woman on a mission!!!
Waves to all xxx

Ah - yellow and mrsb - v sorry to hear that. Thinking of you both x

I've heard good things about reflexology and accupuncture in relation to conception so good luck with that.

yellow - when is your appt for your test results? I think you said end of Jan.

star - great to hear from you and it sounds as if you're being very practical about things - well done.

kitkey - thanks for that. Yes, I have had one AF since ERPC. I definitley didn't ovulate at the normal time of the month for me so like you say, perhaps I haven't ov'd at all this month, or it was late. I had some EWCM, but over a period of about 10 days, about every 3 days . Not much I can really do - I think that's what is sooooooo frustrating.

mana - good news re: going up a week! Glad you're feeling ok.

Hump day for me today although it already feels as if I've put in a week's worth of work already....

Morning girls
Sorry the evil witch got you both yellow and mrs b good luck with the reflexology.

When do you plan to go to disney star we go on the 18th Feb and will be on the 2ww while we are there. Getting all paranoid about the effect of going on rides/planes may have to a bean.....

mrsb the name change goes back to the a couple of weeks ago when you started of the whole my little friend conversation...

Did your AF's used to be iratic wombat , i'm glad you have already had one, as I could see why you would be worried otherwise about the much googled Ashermans.

Nothing to tell you exciting ladies, did any of you catch last nights One born every minute? I blubbed my way through it!
xxxx

Morning all

Thanks for the kind words, feeling a bit more resigned today. i think because my cycle is normally 27 - 29 days and yesterday was 31 days I was starting to get my hopes up. And then af appeared in the middle of my lecture. It's so depressing.....I know it took me a year both times last time but i was thinking my pre-seed had maybe had a magical effect.

Ho hum, back to square one.

Yes MrsB33 we can be cycle buddies! I had just started acupuncture when I got pg last time. i can't afford it every week now but I might splash out on a session just before ovulation. I know anecdotes from MN of people that it seems to have helped. I'd try reflexology too if I could afford it.....but not earning at the moment so need to count the pennies. I will be using the pre-seed again and the 'dipping' On the plus side I know when I ovulate as I have obvious signs and it will be before DP goes to Australia so at least I won't have to miss out on a month. Arrrghhh why is this all so difficult? I guess my main problem is I get my hopes up and start imagining what my life would be like. Because I don't have any children and don't ever spend time with kids or babies I think it will be a massive change for me. And for example should I register for the course starting in October and risk the fee if i have to drop out due to pg or should I book the flights to a wedding in China in Sept because I def wouldn't risk going there whilst pg etc...but I suppose I have been trying now for nearly 2 1/2 years so can't put my life on hold........

wombat getting test results this Thursday. Am feeling quite nervous about it...I will def take notes this time so i can remember what he says. I think spotting may be a good sign...hope you get af or bfp soon. You're being v patient! I think I ov'd a couple of days later than usual this month which explains my delay.

worm I'm sure a little bean won't be affected, not too hot on the biology of it but think it would be sooo teeny tiny that it would be fine. I've recorded OBEM but I'm sure I'll cry too.

star it must be frustrating but at least you've got something positive to focus on. Maybe I should start planning the China trip.

sparkly I know what you mean. I like the anticipation of SWI as it could be you it's the 2ww that is the killer, especially the last couple of days if naughty af is late and messing with your head!

glad things are progressing mana and kitkey you are our shining examples of what we can achieve....leading the way

nurse look forward to hearing lots from you in your week off!

Am going to have coffee with one friend today and lunch with another and then see my counsellor this evening..so I'll have plenty of opportunity to talk today!

Thanks again for the support ladies, it really means a lot as I know you understand.

I know this is probably not allowed on MN but big hugs to you all. (feeling emotional and hormonal and stuff.....need chocolate!)

Aw, yellow, big hug back atcha!

I am holding out lots of hope for your tests on Thursday giving you conclusive news with a positive outcome and a definite plan for moving forward. The time has come for answers!

I have no idea how I'd be after two and a half years, but divorced would be a probability
You are a supremely lovely and patient human being and will be a marvellous mum, one of those educated, progressive, encouraging, talk-it-through rational ones, with lots of cuddles too.
On the flip side of 'putting your life on hold' is the fact that to not anticipate that in all likelihood you will be too pregnant to fly/study for another year/do the hoovering () towards the end of the year is almost to relinquish hope, and hope is what you seem to have in abundance. I think you are really quite inspirational. Therefore, my recommendation is to plonk yourself on the sofa and eat biscuits until the bean arrives

Hear hear sparkly re: your post on yellow - couldn't agree more. Big hugs to you sparkly for such a positive and heartfelt post and to you too yellow. Hope you had a good chat with your friends and the counsellor. Very keen to know what your consultant says - what do you think about taking a list of questions? The lovely ladies on this thread that I lurk on regularly seem to have some great questions.

I'm really hoping OBEM gets screened here at some point - the posts I've read on some of the other threads here make it sound very good viewing material.

worm - I think your bean (fx) will be fine as they are so teeny tiny and well protected amongst so many layers of muscle, flesh, blood vessels etc. Not long now for you!

So, I bought another PG test today and will test first thing tomorrow - tiny amount of spotting this morning and nothing since.... don't feel in the slightest bit PG or premenstrual. It's a bit hard to say with my cycles. I think that prior to the Mirena coil that I had for about 3 years, they were pretty regular 29-31 days (I never really paid attention to my cycle length) and then when I had the Mirena they were so light I didn't take any notice of them really. When I had it removed last Feb, they seemed to settle to 28 days and then I got PG in May. Post MC in June, again they seemed to settle to 28 days. Post MC in Nov, bled lightly for 2 weeks and then nothing for about 2.5 weeks then a "normal-ish" AF which started on 13th Dec. If anyone has any words of wisdom or experience, they'd be very welcome. Working on a 28 day cycle, I'm now 9 days late.... haven't done any SWI since Jan 8th due to thrush (which does seem to have died down thank heavens!)

What nice posts Yellow, I echo what sparkly and wombat said - you really must be made of tough and very lovely stuff. As we're having a love in I'll extend my hugs to everyone, it's great to have such a supportive group of ladies to share this all with x

Oh sparkly ........that is so lovely. Made me a bit tearful....thank you so much.

wombat thanks for the link, I'll take a look. I think I will take questions but I suppose it depends very much on what the results are. I'm sorry I have nothing helpful to say regarding your cycle. Have fingers crossed for tomorrow morning.....otherwise I don't know what to suggest! re OBEM can't you get it through the internet?

Must go, my dinner is ready.

Hey Wormy!!
Guess what?.....I've just booked Florida. We go 31 May for 19 nights. Only booked flights at the moment so now need to sort the Villa, car and tickets out now and then get planning.
We went to Alton Towers before we had the m/c and i was worried about the same then. I think the main risk with rides is placental abruption but that would be a bit hard at such an early stage of pregnancy. I wouldn't worry at all unless you have major issues with your blood pressure. I just need to make sure i don't get pregnant now before May . V excited.....DS massively excited for Harry Potter world!!

Thanks Wombat and also Yellow. Yes i think a bit of Disney planning is just what the doctor ordered :). Maybe we should all just descend on Wombat

Hi all!!!!

Yes - do come and stay star - plenty of room at the villa (seeing as we have no DC to fill it - YET!!) YOu're all very welcome here any time. V excited for you and worm for Florida. I would love to do the HP ride.....!

yellow - v good point re: not knowing the questions until you get results - doh!

Another BFN this morning and no more spotting so now very . I figure the doc isn't going to know anymore than me at this stage so I think what I'll do is take the pathetic spotting as AF for this month and see what happens next month..... DH has been super supportive and sympathetic which is v helpful.

Waves to all!

hi ladies hope your all well, seems a slow day on the thread today....
Right have a question, getting myself abit confused with all this ovulation crap. So heres my info.
Af 21st 1st day, poas from 30th, got a faint line on the 31st,then a clear line on 1st then nothing on the 2nd, so did i ovulate on the 31st or 1st?? Swi from 29th through to 2nd twice a day, then af arrived bang on 28 days later on 17th of jan!!! Did i do everything correctly?? Feel abit bewildered by it all at the moment, feel like giving up!!!!!!! Sorry bad day!! Dh being a twat, 3days into my cycle and period very very heavy!!!! Blar blar blar.........
Waves to all

Oh mrs b, just having a quick look before bed and didn't want to leave your post unanswere. Fraid I have no advice about the ov tests but just wanted to send a hug for your shit day.

Sorry to hear that you're feeling down mrsb. What I can tell you is only from the reading that I have done and my interpretation. OPKs measure the surge in LH which peaks just before you ovulate so I think it's more likely you ov'd on 1st or possibly even the 2nd. I know some people recommend SWI only every day or every other day around ov time as sperm take 24 hours to "build up" - DH will of course produce seminal fluid, but it may not contain that much sperm..... also, even if you do time it right, there is still only a 25% chance that sperm and egg will get together properly.

I can really highly recommend the book "what to expect before you're expecting" as it explains everything in lovely simple language. n.b. this book is not "what to expect when you're expecting" but "what to expect before you're expecting" - you can also look at the "what to expect" website that has a section for preconception - here's the link - I'd recommend it for everyone.

Hope this helps mrsb - sending positive thoughts your way x

xmas party for us last night which was actually pretty special -3 different themed rooms, including a moulin rouge one with proper can-can dancers! Nothing at all to report on the SWI / ov / AF front from me as I've no idea where I am in my cycle. At least we are able to now have sex as thrush definitely seems to have gone - hurrah!

Waves to all!

Well, having said there is nothing to report, AF has just arrived in force! Good in some respects but odd that I had a 37 day cycle - I hope this doesn't happen again next cycle.... think I am going to start charting my temps in attempt to pinpoint ov. Watch this space.....

Morning all

wombat glad your af has finally made an appearance, let's hope it was just your body still settling down post ERPC

mrsB33 twice a day? wow....I've also heard every other day is good cos it helps build up reserves but it sounds like you were spot on for your ov time. And like wise wombat says it is only something like a 25% each month even if you do everything right. Sorry you're feeling glum and it is frustrating but it is still early days.

I've just got back from getting my blood test results and it is very bad news. Basically my AMH level is just 0.85 which is what you'd expect from a 45 year old woman. My chance of mc in every pregnancy is over 75% and he said the best chance of having a baby would be egg donation.

I am still in shock at the moment. He said IVF is not an option cos of poor egg quality but if we continue to try naturally there is a chance but it is a slim one.

So.....I kind of need to get my head round the idea that it is never going to happen for me. Not feeling too bad at the moment but I think i am still in a bit of shock.

Sorry to bring the thread down with such depressing news.....just wanted to let you ladies know.

(((yellow))) - hugs lovely, I am so so sorry to hear your news. Didn't want to leave you unanswered though I can't say anything useful.

lots of love to you - give yourself time to take it all in before you make any decisions. xx

Oh yellow - what a shock for you to get those results..... sending a big hug and lots of warm thoughts. I just want to say that I'm thinking of you lots.

Did you get the results of the other tests too? Does your AMH level have any bearing on the other results, or do they look at them in isolation. How did you feel about your consultant? i.e. would you want to seek a 2nd opinion from anywhere else?

Sorry for all the questions, just desperate to help you yellow and offer some hope to you.

xxxx

x post with wellie - I agree with her yellow re: allowing yourself (and DP) some time. It will take a while to sink in I guess.