TTC after MC, ERPC anyone want to join me??

[nurse47]

Hi ive been posting on the miscarrage forum but now feel ready to start all over again!
My story, Had my first MMC in nov 2007, followed by an erpc (worst moment of my life) this was my first pregnancy and i felt robbed. Waited for two periods and got pg with my little DD in feb 2008, i had a great pg and birth but was on constant knicker alert. We decided when she was two we would like another baby to add to the familiy, we decided to try in sept this year and got pg first time! (very shocked) I was so hoping this would be my time to have a stress free pg and actually enjoy the experience! How wrong i was, i started to spot at six weeks had a scan which showed a sac but no baby, i then enjoured the worst two week of my life by having scan and blood tests. I was told on the 8th on nov the pregnany was not going to continue and i had a blighted ovum, and on the 9th i had a erpc. I have recovered well and stopped bleeding the day after the procedure. I went to see my doc last week who told me i could start ttc asap as long as i feel up to it?? anyone else ttc straight away, last time i was told to wait and i did but this time i have read that there is no lit to say wait apart from to date the pg?? Im hoping there are some people who can share there experiences and someone who wants to join me!

Sorry you are having a hard time MrsB, especially when you're not 100% physically. Setting goals is a good idea to help you feel as if you're taking control.

Hope the rest of you lovely ladies are doing ok and enjoying the run-up to tomorrow.

yellow - did you survive Oxford Street?!

Morning wombat Yes I did! It actually wasn't that bad, I reckon it is often busier on a normal Sunday but people seemed to be quite bad tempered

I've also been carrying round a M & S voucher for some time so splashed out on some posh food for last night....yum yum

I managed to get my packing done and looks like the airport is all clear so should be in France this evening. Not sure if I'll be able to get online over there and if I do typing is so frustrating cos their keyboards have all the letters in the 'wrong' place

Well my AF has def finished now so I am on the lookout for EWCM and have put DP on notice! I'm not taking the pre-seed with me as I think that is something that should only take place at home.

how are all the Xmas preparations coming along ladies? Are you all peeling spuds and preparing sprouts?

Hi all, just popping in to say Merry Christmas...

Am working today so not really in the festive mood yet, will start around 6 hopefully when I pour a big drink and start eating everything in sight! Am currently keeping very very quiet in the hope that everyone will forget I'm actually working so I won't get asked to do anything - lazy or what!

Exciting for those of you getting ready for EWCM and pre-seed! I'm still a few weeks away from that I think (thanks to stupid retained products knocking the clock back by two and a half weeks) but bought a BBT thermometer yesterday with the last of my Xmas shopping in a bid to try and take control a bit, and hopefully speed along a BFP with some well timed SWI when the time eventually comes!

Hugs to MrsB and hope you're feeling a bit more positive, good luck with the journey to France yellow, wombat am seriously jealous of your pizza and Moet, sounds amazing, could just do with that myself right now.

Hi ladies, just wanted to pop in and wish everyone a lovely Christmas!
I have just finished my trifle, old school with hideous retro sponge fingers and no alcohol at boring breastfeeding sister's request. It looks the business but is cascading over the side of the bowl so transportation might be an issue Perhaps I should scoff the lot level it off a bit.
Painted toenails a festive red, and about to embark on a seasonal cat litter change. Falalalalaaaaah......Am I sap for being upset at not seeing my cats until Boxing Day? It seems wrong to leave them on Christmas Day, will they ever forgive me? I'm a bit worried the catflap will freeze over, but otherwise confident they will survive as I have waited for DH to leave the house to bump the heating up......
No shag this morning, ladies. One thing's for sure, this child will not be conceived in an act of raw and spontaneous passion No sign of EWCM so I opted for a lie-in, lazy cow that I am! I think Boxing Day might be the day, I'm back then so will keep you posted.
Hope everyone remains in festive spirits! xx

hi all. just popping in to say hi and happy christmas. have read all posts but a bit tipsy with bubbly and so won't be able to comment. Have made some beautiful mince pies and jamies gravy so feeling v domestic goddess but still have presenys to wrap and bed to maks, catching up on corrie while my sparkly silver nails dry. Happy christmas all x

Happy Christmas to all the lovely ladies here - enjoy and make lots and lots of merriment! x

happy christmas ladies, eat drink and enjoy. Pate, cream cheese, rare beef and lots of wine!! Oh well there are some benefits to not being pg!! Xx

Happy christmas Girls, hope you all recieved BFP/AF/EWCM ........ delete as appropriate!
I got the EWCM and it's tempting me to try this month as it seems like a waste, but florida is less than 7 weeks away.

I have put on so much weight and am now a stone heavier than I was this time last year and the majority of that has gone on since July when we started trying. I have GOT to do something about it! There is snow ice on the ground here so a run is out! and eating less is totally not an option when I have cheese in the house (I only allow it in over christmas)

I hope the trifle went down well sparkly I am sure the lack of alcohol in it was made up for!

Hope you are ok mrsb33 onwards and upwards, and a three month goal is a good one I think.

manamammma I found some mincemeat in the cupboard, it must have been a gift from someone and we have worked out it is at least 3 years old........I made some with it and they were the dogs bullox that is my tip for the future!!

Waves to everyone all the best for a liquid new years eve xxxxxxxx

Afternoon all and I hope all the hangovers are slowly subsiding. Any good sale bargains out there?

I'm back at work today and struggling to get motivated.... also a bit pre-occupied with looking for ovulation symptoms. Have been using OPK for last 4 days with no signs yet but I think I ov on about day 15 or 16 which is tomorrow / weds although I'm guessing my cycle might be still be a bit off-track after - we shall see. DH on standby!

hello :) sorry to crash your thread, i wonder if I could seek some advice?
I had 2 mmc's this year - the last one in october resulted in an erpc.
AF arrived 5 weeks after the op,and despite ttc, I am now on my second AF.

My question is that both AFs have been really light. I was never heavy before but these are so light I could class them as spotting. has anyone else had this? I am now convincing myself that I have got ashermans and will remain childless forever (loon)

Any words of experience or reassurance would be gratefully received! xx

Hope you all had a good christmas x

Hi ,
Ashermans is everso rare battery I have always had light periods and have 2 DC's, I know it's easier said than done! try not to worry x
Have you been getting any signs of ovulation?
Poor you winter I still have a week off work yippee!

Thanks for your reply :) yes - I have ovulated on both months since my mc - I chart too and have had clear signs of OV. Was really hoping for a bfp this month as we have caught first time on both the last times. This pregnancy lark is turning me grey!

HAPPY CHRISTMAS EVERYONEB!!!
Sorry its late had the house full nearly everyday! I know have a bad cold and to top it off I was in work today!!!
welcome battery I too have had two mmc both resulting in erpc's but to be honest my periods have both times gone back to normal, I do believe like brought said its very rare. I'd say go and see gp if your worried as I have read if its picked up early there is treatment. As for me I have a week to go before I test!! Have sore bb's but that's it!!! I'm crossing my fingers for a BFP!!!!
(I may poas on new years eve just to see???)

HAPPY CHRISTMAS EVERYONEB!!!
Sorry its late had the house full nearly everyday! I know have a bad cold and to top it off I was in work today!!!
welcome battery I too have had two mmc both resulting in erpc's but to be honest my periods have both times gone back to normal, I do believe like brought said its very rare. I'd say go and see gp if your worried as I have read if its picked up early there is treatment. As for me I have a week to go before I test!! Have sore bb's but that's it!!! I'm crossing my fingers for a BFP!!!!
(I may poas on new years eve just to see???)

Hi everyone... hope you don't mind me popping over - I need some advice. Sorry if this has been asked before! I've just found out my friend had an MC just before Christmas. I really want to support her and wondered if anyone had advice on what is helpful/unhelpful to say to her? Don't want to make her feel any worse than she already does Thank you in advance!

Only advice is don't tell her its happened for a reason as that really got on my nerves, best advice is just listen to her let her rant cry be happy and sad, and if she starts talking weird and a bit like the green eyed monster don't worry she is just grieving. Just be a good friend which seems like you are, she will be fine she just needs some time. Hope that helps x

Only advice is don't tell her its happened for a reason as that really got on my nerves, best advice is just listen to her let her rant cry be happy and sad, and if she starts talking weird and a bit like the green eyed monster don't worry she is just grieving. Just be a good friend which seems like you are, she will be fine she just needs some time. Hope that helps x

Only advice is don't tell her its happened for a reason as that really got on my nerves, best advice is just listen to her let her rant cry be happy and sad, and if she starts talking weird and a bit like the green eyed monster don't worry she is just grieving. Just be a good friend which seems like you are, she will be fine she just needs some time. Hope that helps x

Hi everyone!! Just had a quick catch up with the thread so thought i'd say hi again :)
Hope you all had a great Christmas and Happy New Year to you all. Hope all you new ladies are finding the support from this thread helpful as they are all great girls!!!

I'm a bit concerned i'm not in synch with you all. It was 6 weeks yeasterday since the op and still no period. Do any of you have any advice as to when i should be taking myself off to the doctors? Don't want to go if they'll tell me to leave it a couple of weeks but wondered if anyone knew how many weeks they'd think was too long.

Love to all xxx

Hiya Star, bit tipsy but popped on whilst in bed and husband is downstairs watching ridiculous man movie a film. If he comes up the stairs he'll think I'm buying stuff in the sales online so I shall have to be stealthy

I did oodles of mumsnetting research after my erpc, when totally focussed on ttc again, and a lot of threads said it would take 10-12 weeks to have a 'normal' period again, and other threads said that if you had a bleed before this that you were a witch it wasn't a period as such but intermittent spotting. In the search for information, for reassurance, and for hope, one can happen across the opposite and take it as a given that something is horribly wrong. Today for instance, I have been focussed on what I perceive as sub-standard EWCM (TMI alert, seems to have a bit of blood in and damn, not nearly stringy enough!). It seems to take some women longer to get their cycle back on track, but I think that's the body doing what it needs to do.
Battery, welcome! I am so sorry this has happened to you twice, it must be awful. I do think you may be a loon, in the most affectionate sense I've not researched Asherman's, as I'd never heard of it before entering the realms of MN and if I read up on it I'd think I might have it; in ignorance I am fairly confident I don't have it. If in doubt seek medical advice
Satsuma, wanted to say hi and that you're obviously a really good friend for coming on here for advice, which in itself will shine through when you are comforting your friend. I'm quite private so didn't want to talk about it at all to anyone but mumsnet DH, but also wanted people to know I was having a shit time and therefore to convey their heartfelt sympathy sublimally, but then I'm a pain in the arse. Like Nurse said 2 or 3 times just be a good friend, and if you've conceived very recently perhaps keep it under wraps for the time being, otherwise we shall be shoulder-barging you out of the way!

Morning all.

battery - welcome and you're not crashing at all. I can certainly appreciate your concerns. From what I have researched and as sparkly ponts out, it can take women up to a few months to get back to normal (for them) after an ERPC and as brought says, Ashermans is rare. Having said that, all the statistics in the world are often not enough reassurance and I would go with sparkly and recommend seeking a professional medical opinion if only to set your mind at rest. Perhaps this would at least "get you in the system" and wouldn't it be a wonderful thing to have to cancel your appointment because you have got back to normal (or indeed because of a BFP!)? The fact you have ov symptoms I believe is a good sign . Again, hate to quote stats, but I think even if sperm are swimming in the right direction, the egg has popped out at the right time etc., there is still only a 1 in 3 chance that they will actually be get together in the right way.

star - nice to hear from you again. I guess I would offer the same advice to you re: getting in the system. I fear they may say to you to leave it a couple of weeks but if you can spare the time, why not make the appointment with the GP anyway for a week or so? So often we can feel out of control in these situations and by actually doing something like make an appointment gives a feeling of taking back a small amount of control. Please note this is wombat suggestion only, not official advice

brought - enjoy your time off still - I was thinking of you as I was typing that message yesterday!

sparkly - I take it you got away with the typing prior to hubby finishing film?!

nurse - good luck with the wait - we'll all be hanging on and I know I would be super tempted to poas on nye - please do keep us posted. Hope your cold goes soon too.

satsuma - how lovely of you to ask - it's very kind. The best advice I could give would be just to listen to her, try not to be shocked at what may seem some fairly radical things she may say, and if she seems to want to talk about it, ask gentle questions to encourage her to keep talking. Reassure her that she is not burdening you by talking and that you want to help her. It's tempting to come up with platitudes like it's for a reason, at least you know you can conceive, be happy with what you have, there's always next time etc. - as friends we're often so anxious to say something to make the other person feel better that we end up saying nonsense which is where the advice about listening comes in. However, whatever support you offer her will be hugely appreciated.

waves to koolforcats, kitkey, mrsb, manamana, strawberry and yellow and others I may have missed - hope you're all doing ok.

Has anyone been following this thread on the conception board? I'm guessing the conceive plus they refer to is the same as pre-seed? yellow and mrsb - keep us posted on your progress please!

hi wombat, yes ive seen it, mine came the day after my af and weve been using it ever since, just trying to get into our stride B4 we ov next week.
Ive done abit of research and have read its better to actually use nothing at all, but if you do need to use anything pre-seed and the above all recommended. Im really not sure its going to work, but theres no hard in trying i say
waves to everyone, and welcome to the newbees.
Will catch up next week when i have abit more time....
X

Hello ladies, I'm back!! Have eaten as much cheese and pate as I can handle and am back home trying to give my liver a little break!

MrsB33 is it really better to use nothing? I was under the impression that it really helped cos of the ph or something.....I'm disappointed now :(

wombat don't know why but I feel a bit suspicious of that thread as if it was some kind of stealth marketing or something......Any ov signs for you yet? I think we must be at the same point. I think i ov normally on day 13 which would be Thurs so DP is also on alert. No signs yet but I've agreed a schedule of tomorrow and Friday and poss Sunday if also required. Who said romance is dead? And I'll be sneaking in my pre-seed....well I think I will, I am a bit concerned that it might not be the right thing to do now!! Argggh, i wish there were some more definitive answers on what the 'right' thing to do is! And poor your being at work......that's not good at all. I hope you have plenty of chocolate to eat?

Hello battery I'm sorry to hear about your mc......my af went really heavy after my mc and stayed that way.....so I don't think that there is a 'normal' and as the others have said I think Ashermans is v rare but worth popping to the Drs if it will put your mind at rest. I'm jealous of you getting pg first time......always seems to take me a year!

Oooh nurse I've got my fingers crossed for you. Would keep legs crossed too but can't (see above)

broughthim I know what you mean about the weight.....I think I've put on nearly a stone since the bfp in Sept....how is that possible? Ok well I know I slacked off the gym and then needed to cheer myself up because of mmc and erpc......erm and christmas! So def need to take some action in the new year. Obv can't start yet, it would be silly.....new slate new year!

manamana very impressed with mince pie making and sparkly nails....any pies left? i haven't really had any cos they don't do them in France.......need to get down the supermarket before they put them all away and start selling easter eggs!

Hello sparkly what's the latest on the EWCM and the hot sex action? looks like there will be plenty of us on the stressful, symptom spotting 2ww. Although I'm not really getting my hopes up too much given it took so long last time......but then I didn't have pre-seed.....ah ha ha ha! We're your cats ok, no frozen cat flap?

Hiya star I think up to 8 weeks is perfectly normal but if it does make you feel better to see GP then do. Like other wise ladies have said that can put you in a 'system' as I have heard sometimes that you can be given progesterone (or something) to make them start again. (disclaimer I am very fuzzy on these details but I'm sure the GP would know)

strawberries how did the eating and drinking go? manage to scoff plenty? I'd be interested to hear how you get on with the BBT cos I think know I'm too lazy to get up at the early weekday time at the weekend to make it accurate. Also worry that it would make me more obsessive than I already am!

hi everyone a very late HAPPY CHRISTMAS to you! thanks so much for your welcome and virtual support, I have really needed it, as people in RL seem to have moved on after a week or so, it's Christmas, etc, etc. (Like I (or any of us!) chose for this to happen to us so close to Christmas!)

welcome to the newbies - glad that you've found us but sorry that you needed to, if that makes sense. I will catch up on everyone's news in the next couple of days hopefully.

Ended up in a big family barney on Boxing Day night - basically because I am hopelessly oversensitive at the mo and totally overreacted to something nasty that my brother said, which then escalated into a full blown slanging match and us getting kicked out! Great fun!

Oh, and barred from his wedding as well (hoping that bit will change once everyone's calmed down a bit but watch this space!)

But my happy (tmi) news for today is that my post op bleeding has FINALLY stopped (I think!) so that at least I can move on in my head from "this is still happening". :)

waves to everyone and thanks again!