TTC after MC, ERPC anyone want to join me??

[nurse47]

Hi ive been posting on the miscarrage forum but now feel ready to start all over again!
My story, Had my first MMC in nov 2007, followed by an erpc (worst moment of my life) this was my first pregnancy and i felt robbed. Waited for two periods and got pg with my little DD in feb 2008, i had a great pg and birth but was on constant knicker alert. We decided when she was two we would like another baby to add to the familiy, we decided to try in sept this year and got pg first time! (very shocked) I was so hoping this would be my time to have a stress free pg and actually enjoy the experience! How wrong i was, i started to spot at six weeks had a scan which showed a sac but no baby, i then enjoured the worst two week of my life by having scan and blood tests. I was told on the 8th on nov the pregnany was not going to continue and i had a blighted ovum, and on the 9th i had a erpc. I have recovered well and stopped bleeding the day after the procedure. I went to see my doc last week who told me i could start ttc asap as long as i feel up to it?? anyone else ttc straight away, last time i was told to wait and i did but this time i have read that there is no lit to say wait apart from to date the pg?? Im hoping there are some people who can share there experiences and someone who wants to join me!

Goodness wellie, sounds horrendous. Hope you're right and that things will calm down. Sending you a big hug. Am struggling to see all posts on my mobile so apologies for not responding to anyone else. Am in need of understanding words after 2 nights with my mother. First day she came up and put her hand on my stomach like you would with a pg person and said 'how's your tummy'. Today we were out and my youngest was being a bit stroppy and she said something about being crazy to have thought about another one. Mostly I let what she says wash over me cos she never thinks but I just feel really sad that she can be so thoughtless and insensitive. We're leaving tomorrow, can't wait. Anyway, thanks for listening x

And hooray for an end to the bleeding wellie. I was v pleased when it finally stopped. Exactly as you say it felt like it was still happening while I was still bleeding.

Morning all.

Blimey wellieboots - that sounds like some Christmas.... hope you are doing ok now and things with the family are restored soon. V pleased for you to hear the bleeding has finally stopped.

mana - sorry to hear re: the things people have been saying to you - that must be hard when you're still so early on after the MC. Sending virtual snifter of brandy your way....

yellow - have been meaning to ask whereabouts in France you went to - the thought of proper pate and cheese is making me drool.... . You could be right re: that stealth marketing tactic - would be v if that was the case - talk about taking advantage of susceptible women.... wish I could offer some reassurance re: the pre-seed although I can't honestly believe that with all the research / clinical trials / rules and regulations etc that anything medical related has to go through these days that they could make false claims.... not impossible mind you. I think if you've bought it already then go for it! I've been POAS for the last 5 morning but no smiley face yet but the CM consistency does seem to be changing a bit so maybe tomorrow. What's your usual cycle length? Mine is 28 so I really hope I ov tomorrow or that won't be a long enough luteal phase (it needs to be 10 days or more apparently for a successful implantation). Re: the BBT, I tried it a couple of times and had thermometer right next to bed so I could stick it in my mouth as soon as I woke up and then go back to sleep once I heard the beep. The thermometer I got keeps a recording of the last recorded temperature so I could write it down after I'd drifted back off to sleep. Stopped after I got a few weird readings though! Might start it up again next cycle though.

Friends arriving this morning from Aus to stay for a few nights en route to England so looking forward to catching up with them. She is great friend from uni days who went thru almost every phase of IVF with 1st husband and then on the very morning he was due to give his sperm sample he told her that in fact he didn't want kids!! They were divorced not long after and she is now with lovely new chap who I hope will pop the question soon as she's 37 like me and so time running out a little....

Hope everyone else is ok - any updates on EWCM, 2WWs or similar?

Morning all

wellie sorry to hear about the family row but fingers crossed it will blow over when everyone has calmed down a bit. I know what you mean about the bleeding stopping, i also felt that this marked the end of that stage and i could move to the next step.

Big hugs to manamana re insensitive comments. I think Xmas can be so difficult with the pressure to spend time with families etc but at least you are off today....only need to hold on a few more hours. My in-laws are great but I still really enjoy being back in my own flat and bed.

wombat we were in Toulouse in the South West....the heart of duck country. You can't move for duck related products! We eat a lot of meat and cheese when we're there so am now going on a fish/sushi eating frenzy!

And in other news I got EWCM today...hurrah. I normally have 28 day cycle with EWCM on day 11 and ov day 13 or 14.....so we're 1 day behind schedule this month but i think that is because af had a bit of a slow start. I'd already but DP on notice for tonight and Friday but it's good to have EWCM too......I can't believe how excited I am about the arrival of bodily fluids and telling your guys about it! So tonight is the big pre-seed experiment. Am a bit nervous that I might put too much and DP will wonder what is going on so am going to start with a cautious amount and see how it goes.
re BBT I often can't get back to sleep once awake so that's why i'd find it annoying.

How exciting to have a friend to stay, her ex DH sounds like a right arse. I know someone who went through that same experience, men are just so cowardly sometimes......how long has she been with new chap? Maybe he'll ask her on holiday? oooh I do love a happy ending.

I'm off for lunch with a great friend today who I haven't seen for a while..we're going to a french bistro but I think I'll have a salad.......I want to still be able to fit into some of my clothes by new year's eve!

Who was going to be testing on NYE? Was it nurse? How are the symptoms? Any interesting ones to report?

Hello all and welcome Wellie and Battery

Sorry for not checking in over Christmas - was a big hectic with in laws here and visiting family. We had a good xmas although my youngest DS was quite poorly with a cough and cold and I was a little bit frazzled with him whinging on boxing day and my mum tried to start an argument with me by reminding me that he is still a baby as if I had forgotten he is 19mths old and saying - well how would you cope with another? I feel your pain manamana. My mum is not on my side with ttc another baby so much so that i have pretended we are not trying again until the summer to get her off my back.

Battery - I don't think light periods alone are a symptom of ashermans - I was petrified that the ERPC had caused it in me too as was very impatient waiting for AF. I did a lot of googling and I think you get a lot more period pain too but this sort of thing can drive you crazy - so do get it checked out if it is worrying you.

Star I was so so worried about my Af coming back (see above) and googled a lot and I think anything up to 12 weeks seems common. I am so sorry it is taking such a long time for you - it is very very frustrating - are you looking for ov signs at all to give you any indication that it will be say in 2 weeks from when you spot the ov signs?!

I have eaten far to much over xmas and am going to try and cut down today, but xmas makes you hungry I think - the more you eat the more you need to eat!

Well my Af has come and gone - it was heavy for 2 days, medium for 1 and then light for one then gone. A big relieve and nice to have a week off over xmas from knicker checking for AF or EWCM. Now I have a week until i expect ovulation - wish i didn't feel the need to use the ovulation sticks but i do so will POAS everyday from the weekend. I think this month could be a no go on the BFP front. DH is away all day up north on wednesday 5 Jan which is supposed to be O day so I keep my fingers crossed he gets back to dtd - not a snow crisis. The next week he is in Rome from Monday until Thursday so if I ovulate late I am stuffed. This is a real problems as I have had some minor issues with irregular period when I was a lot younger but hopefully that won't rear its head again

Got to go my kids are fighting and crying.

Morning all! Back to work today, everyone's moaning but actually don't mind, I feel quite well rested. Wellie, hardcore argument, kicked out from a family do and then barred from a wedding! Not getting on your wrong side! My family are very sedate, there may be some flouncing and sulking but that's about as confrontational as it gets. We're probably not a very verbal family actually, my parents and sister are unaware we were/are trying to start a family, nor do they know about the mc as it happened the week of DN's birth. Nice to have you guys here! Hugs to manamana, can't imagine anything worse than someone close to you coming out with insensitive comments, hope you are home and in your own tranquil space now.
Re. pre-seed, so it only improves the situation if you normally need to use lubricant anyway? I don't seem to have a problem there, DH thinks I am in a permanent state of arousal but I probably just 'over-produce' Managed to DTD three times over the Christmas period, Christmas Eve being very tipsy and wanton and utterly in the wrong position; conversely yesterday which was a sedate affair, ending in DH going "So are you going to do the bicycle thing now then?" I have a feeling the day was Boxing Day, and we've missed the boat, unless Christmas Eve sperm managed to make it uphill and hung around for a couple of days. I've been drinking grapefruit juice to try and make it cosy for them but I think you're meant to have about a litre a day, and I've not the inclination nor the finances.
Think I will poas on NYday, although nothing shows positive until implantation, which occurs around the time your period is due, is that right? I'm not holding out a great deal of hope for this month, however have mentally redecorated the nursery and thought of good names if it's twins, so am looking on the positive side Waves to all x

hello sparkly I'm v confused about the pre-seed now....I thought it was something to do with altering the PH making it more alkaline or more like the 'perfect' environment...not sure though...

I think Xmas Eve would be fine for a boxing day ov, i think they need about 12 hours to get to the right place or something? Hmm should have listened more in biology!

I think NY day would be too soon for a positive if you did ov on boxing day......I think it is 5 to 8 days to implantation and erm....well i thought the earliest you'd get a BFP would be 5 days before AF?

kitkey you're right, the more I eat the more hungry I am. But how to break the cycle!!! Hope you manage to coordinate with your DH to dtd at the right time.

sparkly I meant to also say that on another thread I am on a lot of the women got their BFP from the 'wrong' position

Oooh, and it was late on Christmas Eve, there is hope! I know it's the dreaded 2ww before I can test but doesn't stop me doing it just incase, and I find the process strangely relaxing! feed cats take hubby tea in bed wee on stick....I shall do one on NY day just for a treat, they're only cheapy Amazon ones!

Had a flit around MN looking at pre-seed comments, seems a mixed bag but it hasn't actually stopped anyone getting pregnant by the looks of it, so why not? Seems mostly a far better substitute to KY and the like, with someone saying it could encourage the sperm on their journey, though eggwhite (boak) has a similar effect apparently.

Just had a craving for a kitkat, a show of greed which marked my previous pregnancy, so now taking this as a sign . Not sure why I feel so broody today, but at least am happy with it, and excited about the journey, which is a significant step forward for me. Hope you are all approaching this mindset more or less and that the passage of time is making things look rosier. I know it's still very raw for you Wellies but hope you derive some comfort from our bouyant over-sharing

morning all and thanks for the messages - mamamama that is just horrific, hope you are feeling better now that you are away from the situation, I have found family the hardest thing - it may just be that they don't know what to say and end up saying crazy stuff, but it is so hard, big hug to you

hello to everyone else!

Thanks for all your messages

Kitkey, sorry you're having the same trouble with your mother. Its really upsetting isn't it. She continued in the same vein this morning over breakfast in front of everyone else... I just don't answer any questions about whether we're going to try again, I generally try and not answer any of her questions about any aspect of my life! We are actually at my inlaws now which is lovely, I feel so happy and relaxed here - my mil is brilliant and v supportive so will be looked after. Good luck with timing with dh away, I have similar prob in Jan as dh has a couple of long business trips...

Sparky, loving the fact that you have names sorted, I love name palnning.

Wombat - have a great time with your friends. She has been through the mill hasn't she, what a git!

Mmm yellow, toulose sounds great. I had my sushi fix when I went Xmas shopping in Brighton and have stuffed my face with soft cheese and pate over the whole of xmas. Woo-hoo for ewcm, I have been really lucky in the past getting pg 1st or 2nd cycle of ttc so haven't got to grips with ovulation symptoms but who knows what will happen this time, I am certainly far more interested in state of my pants at the moment so who knows what I'll learn about my body!

Lost end of my message - wanted to say hi to everyone else x

Good to hear from you all ladies.

Mana and kitkey re: comments you are receiving! YOu sound as if you are both being quite stoic about it so well done - I think I would have reverted to GBH by now if I was you!

yellow - hope this doesn't make me a cyber stalker , but dying to know how the pre-seed experiment went! Did you manage it without DP realising?! With that and the EWCM around, the little swimmers will be in 7th heaven! V re: Toulouse - sounds fab.

sparkly - definitely hope from xmas eve SWI - apparently they can keep going for up to 3 days! If show of greed is sign of pg, I must be pg most of the time

Still nothing for me on ov front - got another blank face on POAS this morning and no sign of EWCM - come on ovaries - buck up!

Morning all

tee hee wombat not a stalker at all!

Well I'd never used any kind of lubricant before and well it does....erm....lubricate! I used less than they recommend and I still think it was a bit too much but DP didn't notice...I think he just thought I was more up for it than usual (is that tmi?

So I think I am def the hostess with the mostess what with all my EWCM and pre-seed. They should be having a lovely time.......

Re ov sticks, I've read that the morning is not the best time to test, it is the afternoon that is more accurate? Maybe you should just get started on an every other day regime until you can't take it anymore or af arrives!

manamama it is amazing how obsessed interested we can become in the contents of our pants! I am jealous of you getting pg so quickly, I've had plenty of time for an in-depth study! I'm hoping hanging out with more fertile people will rub off on me.

Anyone else got any SWI/EWCM info to share?

Hi Kitkey!

Glad your af has arrived....all good news. Has it's arrival alleviated you fear off Ashermans??
Still no news here. It will be 7 weeks on sunday. I've been peeing on the odd ovulation stick when i can remember :) and no EWCM that i've been aware of. It seems just whiteish and has been like this ever since the op. Assume i'll be waiting another couple of weeks for mine unless i've missed an ovulation sign. I'm not very good at spotting signs so i may have missed something. I'm not too worried but i don't like using condoms and don't want to go back on the pill, to have to come back off in april when we plan to ttc. Obviously, this is causing an issue of when i could be fertile as we are trying to avoid getting pregnant at the mo as want to go away to Florida end of may/beginning of June and i want to be able to go on all the rides etc there.
Will keep you posted!!

Hi everyone!! Hope you're all well and wish you all a very happy new year!!!! xxx

Excellent yellow, I hope my previously v fertileness rubs off on you ;-) and that it reappears for this time. Dh and I have been at it every few days since bleeding stopped so fingers crossed but am also consuming a lot of alcohol so would be relieved if not, qlthoughthis time 6 years ago ds1 was conceived during my most drunken Xmas! Sound like all should be v comfy in your innards at the moments so fingers crossed!

Am sending good vibes to your ovaries wombat!

Star, no help at all from me but just wanted to say yippee Florida will be so exciting.

Night all x

Hi all, hope you've had a lovely Christmas.

Have been a bit scarce in posting terms as am away from home (and having to type on iPhone) but have been reading all your posts and keeping an eye on you all.

Bit confused today with the arrival of what might be AF (when I was expecting EWCM, hence the confusion!) but will post a few more details next week to get your opinions on whether it really is!

Was popping in too to wish nurse luck, if I remember rightly you're planning some poas action today? (or in the next couple). FX for a BFP for you! x

Waves and Happy New Year wishes to everyone else.

Speak next week x

Sorry this will be quick cos on phone
manamana I am impressed with your stamina, go to the top of the class for effort! I don't think booze makes any difference at this early stage so carry on is my advice!

What poas news nurse?

I will be having another go tonight to get the numbers up

Happy New Year to you all, let's hope 2011 is a fertile one!

yellow - good to hear that the experiment went well - all things crossed your generous hostessing does the trick

mana - top marks from me too. YOu go girl!

strawberry - hope your possible AF isn't giving you too much cause for alarm over the NY - we will try and give as much helpful advice as we can. It seems to be a case of anything goes in the first few weeks post ERPC

star - ditto - hope it's not worrying you too much.

Well, off for quick run in a mo pre NY eve beauty preparations. Wishing you all a truly wonderful night tonight and all the very best for super fertile bits and super sticky beans for us all in 2011! xx

Happy new year wishes to everyone when it comes. Here's to a 2011 full of BFPs and happiness for all of us. Thanks so much for your support and welcome x

Bedroom activity is postponed until we get home now as we are at inlaws with v thin walls! Yellow, sounds like you are taking over at the top of the class .
Happy new year everyone, hope the alcohol helped rather than depressed. I had a good cry with some v good friends and had a lot of fun getting v v drunk and playing sing star, I truly have the worst voice in the world. today I am more hungover than I've been in a v long time! Have decided to go t-total now for ttc and also to try and shift some of the spare tyre accumulated during this 3 months of excess eating to combat morning sickness.
Nurse, hope you're ok.
Strawberry, just echoing what others have said - I am trying to expect body to be all over the place at the moment but am sure that I will be shaken up by whatever surprises are in store. If I return to my28 day cycle and take erpc as day 1 I think I'm due on Tuesday, first day back at work... Crap timing as I am not sure what would make me happy. Af would be good as cycle back on track but would be obviously not pg. No af good as could be pg but I guess more likely that cycle squewed, ah, well, think I will plan a nice lunch out to give me something to look forward to.
Anyway, am rambling for longer than had planned NEED to get to sleep.
Just will join wellie and thank everyone for your support and wish for BFPs for everyone in 2011.
X

manamana, think your new year is an eco of mine, ive been in bed all day today recovering from last nyts drinking!! Never again, im t-total now, that will give people sumut to talk about!! Lol.
Whats you ttc stats? Im currently day 12 now and expecting to ov over the next 2 days for getting plenty of swi in over the next two days...
Even today in my hungover state!!!
Happy new year and welcome to welly, waves to all.
Sorry havent had to catch yp with you all, will log on tomorrow mid swi to update!! He he....

mrsb - if you manage to log on while SWI, I will be seriously impressed with that multi-tasking!

Hope your and mana's hangovers are subsiding and you get a lay-in this morning. Back to work for us today -boo.....

No smiling faces on the OPK sticks for me this month so not sure if I didn't ov, have ov'd late or just didn't time it right (yellow - ta for advice re: POAS in the afternoon but the instructions say you shouldn't pee for 4 hours before POAS and my bladder would never allow me to do that in the afternoon!). However, did get a random bit of EWCM yesterday so grabbed DH for a v amusing bit of SWI - had to be quick as we were due out and had to be quiet as cleaner and friends were around which of course makes you giggle even more. He performed heroically leaving me to do bicycle legs in the air! I don't think it was the right time ov wise, but made for an amusing start to 2011 .

Happy new year ladies! x

Hi Ladies
I hope you are all full of the joys of the festivities :)
Love the bicycle legging start to the year wombat start as you mean to go on......!
I guess this is the first month now that most of us are ttc, altough I am not really will after my next AF, then that should take me into feb when we are going to florida, If I had fell this month I would have been scared to go on the rides. So good luck all!!xxxx

HAPPY NEW YEAR LADIES!

Well i didnt test on nye as i didnt think i was pg and didnt want to feel fed up with seeing a negative test, anyway i came on today bang on 28 days. So onto next month for me! got some digi ov tests off ebay in my bid to get pg as quick as poss (not that im obsessed, ha who im i kidding its all i think about at the moment)

Wombat i admire you i can never be bothered bicycle legging and i think my dh would think im mad! Brought i bet your looking forward to your hols? We are going to book a holiday now for june for my birthday which im glad as need something to look forward too!