TTC after MC, ERPC anyone want to join me??

[nurse47]

Hi ive been posting on the miscarrage forum but now feel ready to start all over again!
My story, Had my first MMC in nov 2007, followed by an erpc (worst moment of my life) this was my first pregnancy and i felt robbed. Waited for two periods and got pg with my little DD in feb 2008, i had a great pg and birth but was on constant knicker alert. We decided when she was two we would like another baby to add to the familiy, we decided to try in sept this year and got pg first time! (very shocked) I was so hoping this would be my time to have a stress free pg and actually enjoy the experience! How wrong i was, i started to spot at six weeks had a scan which showed a sac but no baby, i then enjoured the worst two week of my life by having scan and blood tests. I was told on the 8th on nov the pregnany was not going to continue and i had a blighted ovum, and on the 9th i had a erpc. I have recovered well and stopped bleeding the day after the procedure. I went to see my doc last week who told me i could start ttc asap as long as i feel up to it?? anyone else ttc straight away, last time i was told to wait and i did but this time i have read that there is no lit to say wait apart from to date the pg?? Im hoping there are some people who can share there experiences and someone who wants to join me!

hi ladies, thought id drop in with an update as have a busy few days ahead, bday fri then off to germany for the weekend at a ball with my hubby and friends.
Well this week has been THE WEEK!! Tested my ov with the sticks and only got one positive, sunday so fingers crossed its worked!! As according to ff my most fertile day is today??? Derrrrrr....
Well amyway, Ill find out the 22nd so will pop back in and gove you all an update then.
Hope you ladies are all well. Speak soon xx

Oooh MrsB - a ball in Germany - what fun! Enjoy and happy birthday!

Nurse, Nurse (couldn't resist the double up ) - I used the ov sticks last time and it worked first time! However, it does kind of put added pressure on as you know that you have done it on the "right" date and expectations can be raised higher and then you get dashed lower.... on the other hand, it does take some of the guesswork out of it. I do know what you mean about feeling the need to be pg to move on - it's the seemingly slowing down of time that's so hard, especially when you're thinking about it all the time.

I'm not really on the 2ww but seeing as we didn't take precautions last weekend, I kind of feel I could be, particularly as there was plenty of EWCM around. However, not quite sure what is going on down there as there is still plenty of EWCM being produced - about 10 days now and and a bit . I'm wondering if it could be down to the mild infection they picked up, but (TMI alert coming up) it's not at all smelly or discoloured. Anyone else having this post MC? I'd like to get an AF in a couple of weeks just to know that things are back to normal.

As you can probably tell, I'm feeling much perkier than I was a few days ago. I think it helped massively being able to talk about it non-stop for an hour with the psychologist. Plus I have an afternoon of beauty pampering tomorrow afternoon before DH Xmas bash which is always a good laugh.

How's everyone else?

hello ladies

MrsB a ball in germany, how glamourous!

nurse i have used ov sticks before but found my EWCM to be more reliable....

winterwombat glad you are feeling more cheery and that the psychologist is helping. I think it is so useful to have the uninterrupted time to just talk about yourself.

I am kind of on the 2ww, we've done it twice (whoo hoo!) but not sure if it was the right time or not cos the EWCM seemed to last all week!

In other news I went to see the consultant today. He was very nice and full of facts. He said that 5% of couples have 2 miscarriages but that in medical terms 5% is a lot.....so I guess you ladies who have had one miscarriage the odds are in your favour that you won't have another. He also said that the age when miscarriage risk increases dramatically is not 35 as I thought but 39......so i am young after all
He's organised lots of tests but I'm not certain which ones cos I didn't write it all down because I felt a bit shy about getting my pad and pen out. But he did say he'd write it all down for me and send it. I had about 5 vials of blood done today but have to go to St Marys in Paddington for the other 2 tests because they have to be done within 2 hours of you giving the blood. i know one of the tests was lupus and one sounded like factor 4 lederhosen....tee hee. i will google later. But also he did the AMH test which tells you how many eggs you have left. i had wanted to have that one done although the results could be scary. i think he said that a number of the tests were for blood clotting disorders.
he was really nice and I feel good that we have done something positive. We're to go back in about a month to get the results.
i think i'm still processing it but overall he made me feel that it is all perfectly normal and that there is probably nothing wrong but it is also a good idea to double check.
Right must get on as my sister in law is coming to stay tomorrow and she sleeps in my office which is a total mess. And then I'm off to meet a friend for afternoon tea...yum.
Hope you are all enjoying the sunshine.

Hey yellowtomato and thanks so much for the lowdown on your appointment and so glad that your consultant was both knowledgeable and nice. Very interesting to hear re: the facts and figures. I'm 37 (as I think you are?) and this was my 2nd mc (I think yours was too?) so I'm very eager to hear all he had to say. Chuckled re: the lederhosen 4! V brave of you to do the AMH test - fingers crossed for good news on that and all the others (and the 2ww, kind of)and enjoy the tea and sunshine!

Feeling terribly virtuous at the moment as had super healthy salad for lunch, only a jacket potato for dinner and also managed an 8k run outside - is my halo still shining....? I'm probably just making up in advance for the highly boozy xmas do tomorrow night!

hello winter I am a bit scared about the AMH test but as my Mum keeps telling me she had her menopause at 38 I guess I'd prefer to know how long I've got!
Yes i am 37 and on second mc so the good news is he thought we are far from a hopeless case even with it normally taking a year for me to get pg. Will let you know when I get my letter which has details of the actual tests!
I am very impressed with how healthy you have been, I've started my Xmas drinking early in order to build up my stamina And thanks for the EWCM update....i think I had the same thing. I normally just have it for one day but it went on for a good 7 days this time.

I forgot to say last time hello sparkly glad you are ok. you don't have to have anything witty to say to post....just waffle on like I do!
nurse Thanks for the af I update, i wondered how it would be. After my first mc my periods were a lot heavier and have stayed that way. Hope they don't get worse again....
Right must dash to the last day of my course.
Have a good day everyone

Wow, we've popped up on Most Active for some reason! I always have a flick through to see what people are talking about. Anyone else follow the woman seeing how long it took to poo out the little piece of lego by any chance?
Christmas Do day today so the mood in the office is bouyant. I've foolishly kindly offered to babysit my 2 year old niece tomorrow night so will have to take it fairly easy, she is quite exhausting. It's X-Factor final night so I will be mooting a cosy early night and sending DH up to do the bedtime stories, he loves a silly voice (you can only imagine his 'Elvis from Fireman Sam' )
Had some period-type pains last night so expecting it to arrive shortly, which will be bob on one month since my last AF, at least things seem back to normal. I really feel I can relax and ejoy Christmas now, and start in earnest next year. Might get some ov sticks, anyone find them worthwhile?
I'm 37 next month, so am hoping this will be my 'favourite age' so far. Yellow, know what I thought when you said miscarriage risk increases dramatically at 39? "What about my second one?!" Talk about glass half empty One step at a time, eh? Have a good Friday, ladies x

Hi all
yellowtomato glad your trip to the consultant was productive.

nurse great news about AF - least all is ok in there!

Glad you feeling a bit more cheerful winter

I like OPKs, I use the internet cheapies from SME fertility (website) then confirm a positive with a clearblue digital smiley face- I sure am obsessed when TTC! Now it has been just over 3 weeks since my ERPC and I tested negative on pregnancy tests on Friday last week so I began furiously doing my OPKs - they turned positive on Wednesday, stayed positive yesterday and are back to negative again today - this coincided nicely with some EWCM. We dtd on Wednesday but I am not aiming for pregnancy this month - although obviously deep down I am - next year before spring would be great though. What I am going to do a day 21 blood test to check my progesterone is high at work next week (very naughty). This will confirm that I ovulated and then I will know to expect my AF and if not there is a problem post ERPC so will hot foot it to drs - as you know I have a really bad fear of Asherman's syndrome. If I get AF i will nearly be as happy as if i get a BFP. for now there is nothing I can do except to try to relax for 2 weeks
I have no plans for the weekend - is anyone else doing anything exciting?

Have a good one.

Hi Ladies
Still no sign my AF , weeks 5 now ,we have done it about 4 times using our "not ttc trusty wip it out method" until the new year, but what if........
No sparkly I havn't been lurking following the story about the lego but it sound v interesting! Your DH sounds ace doing the whole story voice thing I just know you will be having one of your own soon.

I definately had extra EWCM too yellow

At winter very jealous about youe 8k run, its been an ice rink here for 10 days now and I am itching to get out again.

Have a good weekend all xxxx

sorry kitkey crossed posted as I started my reply then buggered off got distracted. Fingers crossed for you this month, and it's not naughty......it's a perk of the job! My DF used to test me for everything if I so much as sneezed growing up!
xxxx

Hello all and hope you are enjoying your weekends. I have been suffering from shocking hangover most of today and my mantra of "I'm never drinking again" is being said with much conviction! Had a great night at DH work xmas do - it was a 007 themed night and so a great excuse for a new frock and of course the chaps always look lovely in their DJs. Lots of people to catch up with and I was very proud of DH who did great job as the MC.

Sparkly - how was your work party? did you manage to take it easy?

kitkey - what a clever idea to do the OPKs with the cheapies and then follow up with Clearblue digital. I still find it galling that you have to buy a whole new pack just for the sticks when you have a perfectly good digital reader still. Good news that the EWCM and OPK seem to be in agreement - do keep us updated on your bloods.

Brought - hope AF makes an appearance for you soon.

How's everyone else?

I know there is talk of being extra fertile post MC, does anyone know why this might be? Also, while I hate stats at times, I still gobble them up quite avidly - what are the stats for conceiving post MC and prior to first AF?

winter I hate stats too but also must admit to liking the good ones so I'd be interested in these too. Mind you then I keep thinking about the stats about mc after seeing the heartbeat and it makes me furious again....grrrrr!

Speaking of furiosity (I think I made that word up ....that's me today (and yesterday, and the day before...). I literally am feeling rage, which is very unlike me usually. Managing to keep it in but only just. I'm not sure whether this is a stage of grief I missed out on or more likely that my first period since my mc is on its way? It has been 1 month today since my mc so I'm guessing that's it as I did usually have a pretty reliable 28 day cycle. Really want my cycle to start again, I can't stand the pmt monster invading my usually placid being! Also I think I'm the only one on here who still hasn't lost my born again virginity . I am really happy for those of you on your 2 week wait though and I only hope I can join you soon.

Due to have my next bloods done on Tues to see if I still have any hcg still floating around. I doubt I do though as if my mood is a reflection of my (hopefully) imminent period, it's gonna be the mother of them all !

Ok, that explains my foul mood - my period started on Sunday and I feel back to normal and happy again - apart from the fact that I would much prefer to be pregnant of course!

I hope everyone had a good weekend

A ha! There you go "koolforcats" - good news that things seem to be settling back down and the PMT monster has subsided. I never thought I'd be looking forward to Af, but this time I am!

How's everyone else doing? I had some leaving drinks last night but chose not to drink as still suffering a little from Fri night's excess - must be getting old

Working from home this morning waiting for the new couch which I am most excited about - it's a Crate and Barrel number and I don't think I'm going to ever want to get off it - oops!

Hee hee, I think you should work from home tomorrow too winter and have a couch day - just to make doubly sure it's comfy

I was meant to be having bloods tomorrow to check my hcg but called them to say I'd got my period but they STILL want me to have my bloods 'to check my hormones' I don't get it! Surely they must be back to normal otherwise my period wouldn't have started?

I'm having a day of tea drinking and chocolate munching and enjoying blaming it on hormones.

Morning girls
My AF has rocked up today also, and I have had PMT worse than I ever normally get, in fact I am still in a foul mood. Also my AF was always regular as clockwork on a 28 day cycle, which meant it always came very convieniently on a saturday morning. I do not like it being here on a monday . I really do have a rage in my belly and someone is going to get it today!!!
Don't worry about the bloods, it can't do any harm......

brought it's good to know that you're a pmt monster too! Every time it happens to me I try to tell myself to calm down as it's not really me, it's 'just' my hormones, but who are we kidding, hormones have a bloomin lot to answer to, eh?! I wonder if it was worse this time as it had been so long since the last one (my last was 26th August!)? I guess we'll be thinking about dtd around the same time too then (around Christmas day if I'm on track!)!

TMI alert - mine is pretty heavy - can't tell if that's because I'm using pads whereas usually I wouldn't get to see it as much? (hate them but wondered if I should as I know I still had some remaining tissue so I'm keen for it to come out rather than to plug it in, iykwim!!).

I'm being a MN slut today, I ought to do something productive....like finish the chocolate I started.

Hang in there brought you'll be super calm again before long, I'm sure

hello ladies

koolforcats I'm jealous you got your period, I'm still waiting but I think I'm slightly behind you, I'm expecting it by the end of this week. I think....I just want to get it over with....and I don't want it to mess with Xmas if it is going to be extra heavy and painful. I have still got a bit of 'the rage' when i get unreasonably angry about things....can't be PMT though as it's been a good 3 weeks! And at least you're getting a check up.....I was told i'd be contacted for an appointment in 6 weeks but it'll be that on Friday and still nothing....

brought i do think that the rage may not just be PMT, might just be some kind of rage at the injustice etc that is coming out in different ways?

winter a new couch sounds very exciting indeed, ours was second hand and we've had it for 8 years.......it has to be tied together with string and propped up with books to stop it falling apart! And a 2 day hangover, that is impressive.

I found that my EWCM was more reliable that OPK's but I guess everyone is different.

I got a letter from the consultant with the exact names of the tests so far..:
Gene mutation, factor 2 g20210A gene and factor 5 (leiden) assay and Anti-Mullerian hormone. There are 2 more, lupus and something else but I have to go elsewhere for them and am still waiting for the letter about that.
Brrr it's a bit colder again today...how is everyone else?

I like your idea koolforcats - I wouldn't need much encouragement.... Currently sitting on it now and I feel as if I might have to call DH on his mobile to talk to him - he's only on the other end of the sofa but it's so ridiculously long! I'm sure we'll get used to it in time and it is beauuuutifully comfy.

Seems like a few are starting to get their AFs - maybe we are getting in sync . I'm hoping mine will be with me in about a week although I was starting to feel the rage today after the sofa delivery was over 3 hours late and then two of my colleagues told me I was getting fat!

yellow - I see where you got your leiderhosen test from now! Gene mutation sounds a little scary....

MrsB - how was the ball?

brought - is it thawed out enough there yet for a run? I really should have gone today but testing the couch was far more exciting a prospect!

Hi Girls
I am less rage filled now............a mars bar just helped with that !
wombat yes thankfully thawed out just about, I managed 5k on sunday morning and it felt great!
Maybe we are all getting in sync ! I am not usually such a PMT monster and always had easy and light periods.... this one is more heavy so maybe there are more hormones kicking around?? makes me wish we were trying this month, but Florida awaits in feb! and is paid for now.....
yellow so what does all that mean?? I am new to all that is it good news?
xxxx

How funny that we're starting to sync

Had my bloods this morning and already got results! It's down to 39 now which is good. I know that's really low but I'm still a bit surprised my period started as I thought it'd have to be down to 0.

brought I'm glad you're feeling more human. My period is heavy too - I'm exhausted. Not painful though which is good.

yellow thanks for the test info. I'm kind of wishing we'd had the testing too but we chose not to at the time, too late now though. Hope your check up appointment comes through soon.

Jealous of all the running going on. I'm stil meant to be taking it easy because of my ovarian cyst but am usually really active so it's a bit frustrating. I'll hopefully be getting that sorted out in the new year though so I might put off ttc until feb (ish) too, just to take the pressure off.

Hope everyone else is having a good week winter I'm glad your couch was all you dreamed of....are you still on it?!

It was a struggle to get off the couch last night and couldn't look at it this morning on the way out to work or I may never have got here!

koolforcats - is it a big cyst then? I didn't think they affected people that much - hope you can get up and about properly soon.... Good that you're down to 39 but agree re: ....

You'll laugh at this ladies - my AF arrived last night! Who else wants to get in sync?!

Congrats everybody that has got AF - I am feeling left out and very jealous as I had my ERPC around about the same time as you all on 17th November - 4 weeks tomorrow so it is about time for mine to arrive. I think I ovulated last Wednesday so it would be next week for AF to arrive if so but yesterday and earlier this am I had the smallest tiny bit of spotting on wiping (i still check, habit I think) with mild cramping so thought AF was coming - but I am not so sure now - in a way I want it as would be proof that I hadn't been damaged by the ERPC but I don't want it yet as if I did ovulate last Wed it would mean only a 6 day luteal phase. Oh I hate all this. I hope it wasn't an exceptionally exceptionally very light AF - a sure sign of damage caused by ERPC (asherman's syndrome). Only time will tell I suppose. Going to do a progesterone level tomorrow to see if it is high enough to confirm ovulation - was feeling positive but this spotting has thrown me into a stress again

HI Ladies, hope your all wll on this frosty tuesday afternnon.
Ball was Amazing, even had some champaigne brought me from an officer as i mentioned it was my bday weekend... it was very swish!!
they had a fortune teller there, so i decided to ask her if id ever be a mom... stupid i know, but i was a little drunk and emotional.
her repley was yes, with a little help, now im major stressed!!!
my af is due next week and i can already feel my pmt symptoms rising, headache, mood swings... i feel my pg obsession rising daily!!
wish id never asked the stupid question, now all i can think is theres something wrong with me!!!!

Afternoon all
I wish I could find enthusiasm to go to the gym......every day I say I'll go tomorrow. But maybe tomorrow I really will!
broughthim I don't really know what the tests mean either, was going to google them but haven't got round to it. I think they are something to do with clotting and genetic mutations and one def tells you how many eggs you've got left which is a scary one! I guess I'll see whether it was money well spent or not when I get the results but it'll be at least a month anyway.
kitkey I haven't got my AF yet either and am suffering from AF envy! It'll be 5 weeks on Friday since my ERPC so I think I'm next! Well I hope so anyway....
MrsB33 i know it can be hard when you have something in your head to worry about (with me it is early menopause) but i guess she maybe just added that bit because if it had been easy for you you may not have asked the question iyswim?
I'm feeling v tired today, some idiot phoned us at 2am and it took me ages to get to sleep again. We didn't answer, I think it was a wrong number grrrr....
Right going to get a diet coke to try to wake up a bit...

winter the cyst is just over 5cm. It might not be a big deal and I guess might have been there for ages but now I know it's there I'd like it not to be! I just want to be ship shape ready to try again . How funny you got your AF too - we're like nuns on here (erm, ttc nuns?!)

kitkey please please don't worry that some of us have our AFs, yours will come. My mc was natural/semi medically managed and I guess that might mean things could get back to normal a little quicker. And your AF isn't quite due yet, please try not to worry too much.

mrsb glad you had fun, sounds fab! I completely agree with yellow, people probably only ask that when they're trying so it's her way of trying to be clever. I know it's easy to say, but please try to take it with a pinch of salt. She did say yes though, and the little bit of help could be all of us on here, we're all helping each other

yellow I hope you get a better night's sleep tonght and enjoy the gym tomorrow .

I met a lovely lady on another thread and invited her to join us, she's at the same stage as all of us - let's see if we can sync another one