Charter's Anonymous: Volume 3, here's to better luck this time for us all!

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A shiny new thread girls and hopefully we shall all get merrily up-duffed with sticky beans

LadyG is aspirin ok to take in PG, I didn't think it was as you're not supposed to take it when BF-ing??

Not telling DH as the whole point of not telling him in the first place was to avoid any heartache for him. I'll be ok on my own. It's very early days for this pregnancy and I'd just like to know either way before xmas now. Feel teary today, can't believe it's over the weekend again (so was my mc) but at least I have an appointment. The gp has acted v quickly.

God, actually I feel really sad and alone. Don't think I'm as attached to this pg as the last one but why is my body doing this? What if my DS was some sort of miracle pregnancy? Sorry.

Thank you Fedup! Fingers crossed eh? Hope you are well. What stage of the ivf process are you at? xx

mouse obviously its your decision if you want to tell your DH or not but are you sure he would want you to be going through this on your own? I know you want to protect him, but remember he might want to protect you too. Sorry if that's very forward of me to say, but I don't want you to feel alone! We are here for you whatever though!

fedup thanks!

mouse good luck for Monday. If you can't wait until then some private clinics do Saturday appointments, although last time the private hospital wouldn't scan me until 7.5 weeks - I think the NHS equipment is generally better for early scans. But might be worth ringing round to ask if you want to be seen quicker?

mouse you don't have to do this alone. You and DH are in this together, you shouldn't have to shoulder all the heart-ache. I'm sure he'd want to support you. But understand your desire to protect him, you are very strong.

Terrys try not to worry about the lines, a line is a line is a line. I bet they will get darker as the weeks progress. I would give up temping though, as Lady says it can drive you to despair if you have a dip and often it means nothing.

Fedup sorry to hear that you've been trying so long, it's really heartbreaking. I feel for you. Will this be your first round of IVF?

I daren't look at my legs they are still stinging . Might have to DTD in the dark tonight!! I don't usually wax either Lady but just so sick of shaving, and the little blighters poking through again the very next day [hairy]

Ah me, oh my! I am at bonkers CD10 - nothing is happening and I'm boooooorrrred!!

Mouse: it's the very first consultation at the end of Jan. It's private. Definite view to pursue IVF. All other tests done proved everything was fine with both of us. Even ovarian reserve better than what it should be for my age. This is the first and last step, which we have agreed between ourselves. We don't want it to become all encompassing, as too much else is going on in all other aspects of our lives. Although, by it's very nature the baby will be the be all and end all. We don't want the ttc malarkey to bring us down any further than it already has.
Mouse: very sorry that you are going through this on your own. But like Terrys has already said we're all here to support you. FX that everything turns out ok. xxx
Terrys: due to your feeling so tired( completely normal at this stage)- a few early nights might come close to sorting you out!

Hello girlies! Blimey it has been busy in here today!

Fedup I feel very for not responding to your congratulatory message. I read it amongst the general excitement of my LFPs yesterday and smiled and thought aaw how lovely of her and continued to shit myself all day long whilst staring at my tests.
But thank you.

And hippy thanks! Nice to see you again too.

mouse I hardly know what to say other than I really feel for you and am tense and nervous for you, desperately hoping you get reassurance on Monday and see a little heartbeat. Is it dildo cam?

Izzy hello and welcome! Lovely to have some new people here. I'm so sorry to hear about your loss earlier this year. It's utterly heartbreaking to go through. I've just been through something very similar and am still feeling very fragile. Were you able to find out what happened to your baby?
Your charts look like the accupuncture has really made a difference, nice 12 day LP. It's fairly normal to have higher temps during your period I have learnt, - the progesterone levels are still falling. Looking at your last months chart you are heading into the Crucial Zone now. Good luck!

terrys those lines play merry hell with your mind. POAS daily by all means (I intend to!) but they sometimes will not get much darker for a bit. Goodness knows how but in my entire pregnancy with Bobbie I only tested 3 times. The first two were at 13 dpo and about 20 dpo ish and looked practically the same. Then about 1-2 weeks later I took another and it nearly lept off the stick at me and appeared before the control line. This time I am writing on my tests the day I took them and am going to stick them all on a big sheet and keep them .
Am a sentimental sod really

GetDown nearly time to start OPKing my dear, fingers crossed for you.

Hello everyone else

thanks spilt how are you today, feeling suitably pukey?

Do you think I should start OPKing tomorrow? (CD11) the earliest I've ever ov'd is CD13 but usually a lot later than that.

I've got lots of cheapies though, so I suppose no harm in starting early.

/fedup sorry if your congrats werent acknowledged! Cor busy on here! mouse everything crossed lovely x Izzy my darling wizzy* nice to see you on here, good charting advice for sure :) at the waxed plucked chicken effect legs... know it well!! I had to rush shave mine yest after i had an apt to go for a swab!! They were long and no time for waxing

Thanks Getdown: yes, it will be our first round. We were very optimistic due to all the invasive tests done through the NHS coming back with fantastic results. The drs kept encouraging us to be patient. We've been married for 5 years now, not used any contraception in that time, hoping for a happy accident. Seriously ttc for 2. Now, we have accepted that it may never happen for us, but at least we will have done our best. However, we don't feel we can go abroad, look into donor eggs or anything further than the IVF. It is definitely horses for courses, and we admire all those people out there who can leave no stone unturned. We don't feel we'd be strong enough to open that can of worms ever, not just now. If it didn't happen with IVF, we would be sad, but we'd be able to live with it due to having lots of nephews and nieces on both sides and fantastic godchildren. We are also very career driven and motivated. Everything happens for a reason, so we have made peace with whichever hand we are dealt with. Although a baby would be the icing on the cake!

Nix funnily enough as I looked at my pasty white legs covered red pluck marks this afternoon, it did remind me about getting the turkey in for Christmas

x-post Fedup well you sound like you have a very sensible attitude to it all. Hope it works! The fact you've got no detected "issues" is surely a good thing.

Spilt and Nix: don't worry about it. It's not your fault. I understand completely! I am to blame too... In that I've rather neglected this thread as been so rushed off my feet at work. And you girls certainly don't hang about, do you? It's so busy here! It's all good though.

Getdown: therein the problem lies. If it ain't broke how do ya fix it? There did come a point when I fervently prayed and hoped that they'd find something, fix it, then we could get on with it. But it was never gonna be that easy...

Thank you for the kind words ladies, it will indeed be dildo cam - oh the joy! Will be my 3rd visit in the space of 10 weeks. Hopefully this will have a happier outcome.

DH now knows Im going for a scan as the gp receptionist had left a message on 1571. I've just told him they want to check me over as I haven't had a period yet. He couldn't come with me either way due to work commitments.

I'm so pleased to have MN - you are all so great.

Fedup I hope the ap goes really well in jan xxx

NB: I personally think our eggs and tadpoles are all too tired and demented to KNOW what to do when they do get together! I imagine them doing a silly jig and a salute and then heading off their own way!

Thanks mouse you take it easy m'love. x

GetDown if I was you I'd probably start OPKing the second I saw any hint of fertilish CM. Datewise tomorrow makes sense though.

Fedup you sound very philosophical about it all. I can only admire you for it, I am one of those who gets totally obsessed . I really hope you get your baby soon.

You waxers, I am impressed. I have had my lower legs waxed twice and I cried, it was horrible. But I do sympathise as I too have fast growing leg hair. DH has learnt to live with it

I go by the motto that they keep my legs warm in winter..DH has no clue with fluffy jim jims on!!

at the eggs and tadpoles doing a silly jig and salute! Oh Fedup!!! I know how you feel! Last cycle we timed it perfectly and still nothing. I can't understand it, what were the little swimmers up to?? There's only several million of them after all , surely ONE of them could get their act together

Well I just checked CM again. It's creamy but also had a little bit of twang to it - you know, a little bit of stretch.... what do you think, is that egg white, or not#?

nix surely the fluffy jim jams have to come off to Do the Deed? Or have you perfected the technique to DTD with jimmys still on, if so, secret please.

Thanks spilt. I've done my obsessing, to be honest. It didn't get me anywhere unfortunately. So, we're being sort of clinical about it, feel detached from it. Maybe it's a safety mechanism. It keeps me from being overly analytical or emotional. I used to get very involved. Used to question everything. But recently, I have this attitude that what will be will be. Still fantastic to have a baby though: charting is very very addictive: don't you find? Also gives me unfounded hope EVERY month, only for the RTD to rear it's ugly head! That's enough obsessing for me! Don't want to go raising the bar further than IVF!

Getdown: get some swimmers in there: knicker watching ain't gonna get you upduffed, dtd will give you better odds!