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Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all, laughing. All welcome (Part 7)

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MamaPower · 19/10/2010 11:16

A comfy little corner for those who need company in the post mc ttc journey!

To POAS or not to POAS? That is the question!

All welcome Smile

OP posts:
mousebacon · 07/11/2010 17:34

Hi again, just noticed blood streaked cm. Is that normal? Had a bit a couple of days ago but thought that was because we'd DTD. Aaagh! So confused! x

youremindmeofthebonfire · 07/11/2010 17:53

mouse I had a couple of days of spotting every couple of weeks after my erpc, until my proper period. Around 8 weeks after erpcConfused WTF indeed..

Hello all. I am much more content today. Still no sign of AF, but am more positive, I went to a wedding last night, and just thought that, you know what, life goes on. I can't control this really, just gotta keep on doing what I'm doing, and my time will hopefully come. I think that I may have December off anyway, I've got so much planned, and could do with a bit of a month long blow out really!

We took ds skiing at 2.5, nix In retrospect it was perhaps a little young.. you forget how exhausting it is really. And he didn't love the french teachers, who were all a bit brusque. Plenty of boarding time for us though.

PFF hope you enjoy your meal and family visit.

chocky nice to have you back!

They do a blog connected to mumsnet don't they? Will find a link dachs and ladybee

Must change my name back too, not long til the christmassy one!

Love to all, hope all are well.

Tallybear · 07/11/2010 18:33

Hello all,

New to this thread and I haven't read all 33 pages so apologies if this has been covered already (or if this is even the right thread!) but I have a question/query/worry and hoping someone can help...

Mmc in August: first period 7 1/2 weeks later, next one was due last Friday (i.e. 29 Oct - 9 days ago) but nothing yet! Before the mmc I was always 27-29 (most months was spot on 28 days). I've done two tests but both -. We are ttc again so I was really expecting a +. Could the mmc and erpc have messed up my cycle? I've never been this late before without being pg (well, once!). Argh. Where's that wine and choc..... (or should I not be drinking wine???!) Confused

rachk32 · 07/11/2010 18:41

hi there, im also a newbie, im 7 weeks on from my mmc, natural at 13 weeks. I got my first period 5 weeks after my mmc on the 27th of october and it lasted around 4 days, then last week i started to bleed again??? Very strange...
New a fresh period, quite old blood and a little clottie still (sorry) so think my body still isnt quite back to its normal self, im sure i will be able to tell if o get my af on the 27th of nov??
Sorry for your loss, and good luck with the ttc. X

AandRMum · 07/11/2010 18:59

Welcome Tallybear and Rachk32 So sorry you find yourselves here but make yourselves comfy there are some very knowledgeable ladies here who are very supportive.

Others will most probably be more informative but I think mixed up cycles is the norm for the first couple of af following a mmc. Fingers crossed it will change to a bfp but several others have had delayed ovs in the weeks after. Do you know when/whether you ov'd?

Rachk32 silly question but have you tested to see if you have had a bfp post mmc? Have you been scanned to make sure it has all cleared? I think things being a bit random is normal but always best to check, I suppose. I had my first af post ERPC about two weeks ago - so I am not sure what the next cycle will be like!?

goatsarefabthinksnix · 07/11/2010 19:00

Hello newbies (my real name is nickstermum but i fancied a change to goats this week!) Introducing myself : Age 34, DS1 age 3, MC pg2 @ 12 weeks, slightly tubby, (used to be thin) brown hair and quite boring looking actually with big eyebrows! UCL 35+Grin welcome! I am commonly known as the clown of the thread...well try to be anyway Grin Grin

Sorry you find yourselves here but its a good supportive place to be! tally i too MC in august. Just completed second period and now CD whatever now....13? To both you and rach seems that cycles get somewhat messed up for a few months generally after MC :( takes body a while to settle down. Could be too early tally hope so! Rach clotty is normal after MC so everyone on here has experienced :( my first period after MC i could hardly walk :( better 2nd one though :)

mouse seconding babes/bonfire i too had sporadic spotting after mc even after 2 or 3 weeks from initial loss, as well as streaky/stringy goo which seemed to go on for ages :( suspect its normal lovely :( not nice tho x hows the MRSA? are you ok now? hope so :)

Took DS to the snow dome last year to see santa (grotto was crap but he loved the snow playtime) so want to take him out in winter but its all pennies providing. bonfire 2.5 is young to ski, well done bonfireDS for doing it Grin fab! I dont board, DH is a massive boarder, but i am a pathetic skier! I dont think i would be able to take DS on lifts though, would be terrified!

I am resolving myself today to relaxing (pah!) and am trying to enjoy DS and forget about the incessant need/frantic SWI/fertility monitoring as its making me crazy... DS keeps asking for a brother and it breaks our hearts, (although its good for DH as it applies the pressure Shock Grin) so i say all this with good intentions, (and come fertile time it will change) but i will try to be chilled

Fondant hope you are ok babesxxxx

AandRMum · 07/11/2010 19:09

nix good luck with the relaxing. I am trying to do the same - with mixed results! We spent today in Richmond Park with deers and autumn leaves ... fab.

mouse meant to say I had a few random bleeds after stopping the main bleed as well.

rachk32 · 07/11/2010 19:14

ahhh thanks for being so welcoming, yes got my all clear scan on the 7th of october, midwife said all looked good and advised me of a tilted uterus. Have done a few pg tsts inbetween due to being in some pain three wks after my miscarriage. I had a terrible time during my mc which i decided to do all natural (silly me) i fainted twice due to either the sheer pain or maybe blood loss, so kind of expected my recovery to take some time, but again didnt really know wat to expect with this being my first and all....
Havent texted for an ov yet as my periods were all messed up and didnt have a good experience with the 84 this pregnancy so gave up....
Have to wait a month now before trying again as ive had to have my mmr vaccination due to being none immune, so hopefully by then my periods should be all back to normal, fingers crossed xx

Tallybear · 07/11/2010 19:14

You're probably right - thought it might be too good to be true! Not a clue about the ov situation AandRmum

On the plus side, perhaps I can have some wine (although don't really want to until I'm sure.) But never fear...think I have some chocs in the fridge and some left over apple crumble with ice cream. Not quite as good as a + test but you've got to take what you can get right?!

Tallybear · 07/11/2010 19:21

rachk32 I've got a tilted uterus too (meant I had worst news of my life delivered when I was lying half naked, legs akimbo with a scanner up my *** (tmi?) - would be funny if it wasn't so horrible!). Does anyone know if this causes any problems?

rachk32 · 07/11/2010 19:25

i was informed in a simular position!! Eeeeewwwww..
I spoke to my midwife about it she said it probably explained my mini labour pains during my mmc but shouldnt cause any problems in the future aprt from having to have internal scans at the beginning..... Which i hated and on both occasions made my blood pressure rise dramatically causing them some concern!!!

Tallybear · 07/11/2010 19:36

Pretty gross huh?!

Thanks, that's something I suppose...

youremindmeofthebabe · 07/11/2010 19:43

tally my periods went 8 weeks, 40 days, 35 days and then 30 days, settling back now to my pre-mc rate of around 32. But some of us have remained quite regular.

Velvetcu · 07/11/2010 19:49

Welcome Tally and Rachk. I'm on cycle 3 post ERPC in June and its still random for me so it takes some people a while for it to settle down.

Feel free to ask as many questions as you need to.

Hi everyone else - where has the weekend gone???

IzzyWizzyletsgetsomesparklers · 07/11/2010 20:03

Greetings Tallybear - sorry you're having to join us Sad but I hope your stay will be short. It's possible that you're heading for a bfp but yes, unfortunately it is normal for cycles to be all over the place after mc. My background is a mmc of dc3 at 16+ weeks in July (baby had stopped growing at about 14 weeks) and four months on my cycles still aren't really back to normal.

To rachk and tallybear and anyone else worrying about a tilted uterus, I have this too. I found out at an early scan when I was 9weeks pregnant with ds (about 8 years ago). It hasn't caused me any problems as far as I know, I've had two completely healthy pregnancies and two great birth experiences (funny how time dulls the memory of pain isn't it?!) and as far as I'm aware it didn't impact at all on my third pregnancy; although the baby didn't make it, he got to 14 weeks so had clearly had no problems implanting etc.

YRMOTB glad you're feeling ok today, as pink wisely said earlier this week, there's a limit to how much control we have over any of this so to some extent we just have to go with the flow.

orange hope you enjoyed the skiing/snowboarding. I'm ashamed to say I have never been and would be completely terrified.

nicks hope you are managing to relax, it's so much easier to stick to the good intentions when it's not fertile time isn't it, then they just seem to fly out of the window? (they do for me, anyway!) Grin

. Hope you're ok, have never seen a triphasic chart but that would be soooo exciting!!! Fx!

Just got back from my second firework display of the weekend, the dcs really loved it, it was very sweet. Also tried new church after whole priest dilemma of last few months and it was ok - might try one or two more before I settle which I know sounds awful but it feels like a big decision. I do feel better for taking control of it though! So all in all, a positive day.

goatsarefabthinksnix · 07/11/2010 20:41

rach fainting is a side effect of MC, i suffered badly, apparently that dizziness (and i had violent poos also TMI Alert) is to do with the falling progesterone, so i am told!

goatsarefabthinksnix · 07/11/2010 20:45

Izz yes.......... full of good intentions! Ass soon as i get pant smeg it will all go out the window....!

Fondant any joy? bonfire?Waves to velvet, A&R (richmond park lovely :) )and thinks of dachs hope you are holding up lovely and you get plenty of eggsxxxxx

rachk32 · 07/11/2010 21:33

thats good to here, i was terrified, never fainted b4, first time i woke up on the floor, second on the loo, so not good, but kinda glad it was all normal....

Ladybee · 07/11/2010 21:45

Orange that does sound like a +ve for OV to me, the combination of EWCM and dark line sounds promising.

PinkFF did you put a link to your chart somewhere? I didn't spot it. I'm desperately hoping my temps stay up tonight so you're not alone in willing good things from your thermometre every morning.

urbanlol good lord 6 december must seem an age away! You seem in good spirits though, how are you feeling?

Mousebacon, well, bloodstreaked CM might indicate ovulation. Quite a few ladies on this thread and previous ones have reported spotting on ovulation on the WTF cycle, not sure why though. So maybe you did ov and the temps are taking a little while to rise?

youremindme that's a really good attitude I think, there is so much in all of this that we can't control. I think our first reaction to the MC is to battle really hard to try to control our fertility...but really, beyond a certain point it absolutely is in the lap of the gods.

Tally and rach hello and welcome. As the others have said, it's pretty common for cycles to be a bit whacked for a few months after MC.

Rach I had mini labour pains for my 2nd MC this year, which as natural, and I don't think my uterus is tilted. I was astounded at how painful the natural MC was, although it did pass in a few hours. I didn't pass out but there were moments when I thought I might. Sorry you suffered so badly Sad

Just a quick intro, I'm 36 and had a MC @ 5 weeks before I conceived my DS, now 2.5. We started TTC no.2 a year ago, had a MMC confirmed at 8 weeks in April this year, ERPC, then conceived again in May, saw a heartbeat at 7.5 weeks and then MC at 8 weeks naturally at the end of July. Have since had tests for recurrent MC and found I have Factor V Leiden which is associated with increased miscarriage rish. I also have PCOS, which was diagnosed before conceiving DS. I take Metformin to ensure regular ovulation and this works well for me, although I really do need to lose weight and exercise.

nickster where do you think DS gets the wish for a brother from? My DS has never mentioned it at all (thank goodness) even though he's very aware of brother/sister relationships on the tv/books/at his CM. Am just curious to know whether it's likely to come at some point?

Who was it who had the vivid dream the other day? I had one last night! You lot know I have started doing family research, yesterday I received a package of material from my mum and spend some time sorting through it. Then last night I had the most incredibly lucid dream that I discovered my mother had a son before us, but that at some point the father had died and the family insisted on him going to live with his grandparents abroad. This is all a dream, but it was like discovering something true and I was so upset when I woke up. I started crying when I told DH about it, and realised that that the words I was using "I realised that I'd always felt there was someone missing from the family" is how I feel about my miscarriages. Probably why it was so upsetting. Very odd. I have, off course, decided that the vivid dream is nothing to do with me being a bit hot last night, and is definitely a sign of pregnancy.Hmm

I have even noted it in my fertilityfriend chart

Ladybee · 07/11/2010 21:49

"increased miscarriage rish"? what's that?

Haven't been at the wine, honestly, my typing above might look like though. Sorry.

PinkFondantFancy · 07/11/2010 22:13

Evening all! How can it possibly be Sunday night already?!

batfink sorry about the BFN :( Hope your gym session went well. Glad to hear you're feeling more chilled.

inbetweener hope you managed to pee! Have you been ok since? Hope you haven't had a UTI - have you been drinking lots of water since? Sorry about the BFN :( Hope you had a nice chilled out Saturday after the day's distressing start!!

Hey wombat and velvet hope you're doing ok x

nicksteroon how's DS doing? How has your chilled Sunday been?

lady what film did you watch?? Glad you had a successful fireworks night by staying in - sounds like a v. sensible plan! I was a bit overexcited myself actually - there was a funfair at the city fireworks and I got my fix of the waltzers :D :D Wow just read about your dream, you poor thing, it sounds very distressing! I'm not sure if it's any comfort but my MIL had a MC at 20 weeks before my DH was born, and she's convinced that the baby that died was my DH, it's just that he was waiting for different physical body IYSWIM. I don't think there's any shame in marking your dream on your FF chart at all!! I hope you're feeling more chilled now, it sounds like a horrible start to your day :( Are the drs doing anything for your Factor V Leiden like asprin?

Hey chocs nice to hear from you, glad you're doing ok. Flabfighting recommences for me tomorrow - have definitely let the detox slide while we had guests this weekend......

Glad you hear you're doing ok too mousey, how are you feeling now with the MRSA? I also had some blood streaked CM before my proper period (although I didn't have ERPC). I also had one bizarre incident where I found a huge blood streaked gelatenous lump in my pants - v. odd!!!

orange I hope you enjoyed your snowboarding today. I am having exactly the same thoughts about skiing next year - thought it might be a bit of a consolation prize if not updiffed by EDD. Fab news about the OPK!

Hi tally sorry you're here, make yourself at home though. My cycles seem be getting weirder the longer it has been since MC rather than more normal but it seems that everyone's is different. Fingers crossed yours is being weird because a BFP is on its way....

Hi rach sorry you're here too :( Sorry, I have absolutely no idea, although I found that my AF is much more clotted now than it was before MC.

Sorry both about the way your news was delivered to you :( that is horrible :( Same thing happened to me but I already knew I'd lost the baby as I'd been bleeding so heavily for the few days before.

Aandr what on earth is the sixfootsix wine you've kindly bought us?? Tell me the bottle isn't 6 foot high???! That is amazing!

izz it would be cool but unfortunately more likely due to my frankly rubbish experimental technique than a pg! Well done on trying a new church, it's a big step. I think it's a good plan to try out a few before settling down.

Hope you're all having a very chilled out evening - I had a freak out earlier when I remembered that I've got a 9am meeting tomorrow which is going to be an absolute horrorshow sob but apart from that it's been a very chilled out weekend so can't complain. I have got a bit of a sore throat and runny nose though - DOOOOMMM!!! I really hope this isn't another cold coming on...... I've got a massive new batch of spots on my chin which usually come about a week before AF so definitely not getting hopes up this time. Good think about temping is that hopefully it will save me money on using tons of pg tests too soon!!! Love to all xx

rachk32 · 07/11/2010 22:19

can i ask what bfn means??

PinkFondantFancy · 07/11/2010 22:37

Hi rach BFN - Big fat negative (pregnancy test). BFP - big fat positive!!

AandRMum · 07/11/2010 22:48

Ladybee what an amazing dream - definitely a pg symptom for something so vivid!

goatsarefabthinksnix · 07/11/2010 22:48

Missin' thermometre! hurry up amazon.... Hmm

rach get the scary bit.... i came down in the night to the kitchen to get DS some milk and whilst i was rinsing out his milk cup i hit the deck and smashed my head on the tiled floor :( (this was the night i had MC confirmed... i thought it was down to stress/grief etc but it happened 2 or 3 times later too)... poor DS didnt get his milk for about 45mins bless him!!

Bee not too sure where its coming from. He knew i had a baby in my tummy as i got quite a big bump before MC...stupidly told him so he wouldnt jump too much all over it. When MC happened, i just told him mummy had tummy aache and its wasnt there anymore... so he was getting a new one after christmas! I think it stems from him being close to his cousins, 1 older and 1 just turned 1... it makes you feel so guil.ty and that you are depriving them,,,,, but cant help it! Glad it spurns DH on Grin

Night all, shattered, big week this week. Good luck for meet in morning pink what did you do to deserve a 9am-er?!