Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all, laughing. All welcome (Part 6)

[KnitterNotTwitter]

A lovely place for those either lurking, waiting, WTFing or SWI after MCing...

...with optional fish slapping

izzy that is exactly why I am keen too - would be helpful to know if I ovulate late and also some reguar POAS wouldn't go amiss either!

Hey velvet what CD are you on?

29 PFF but last cycle was 34 days so I'm sticking with that I think

Marmite Yuck! Cadbury's Yummy. (British chocolate has more cocoa in it than the rubbish stuff we get over here) You have reminded me I better do The List of Stuff I Want From Blighty.

and speaking of lists...

Tuesdays List

StarflowerGirl TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 28 CD55 BFP
Pinkie08 TTC#3 cycle 2 UCL 28 CD57
Lottiecrump UCL 27/28 CD50
cheepz TTC#2 cycle 2 (round 4) UCL28 CD48
Littlemiss72 TTC#1 cycle 1 (post MC#2) UCL 28 CD 46
digitalgirl TTC#2 Cycle 3 UCL41 CD38 BFP
barrenbrook TTC#1 cycle 4 (post MC#3) UCL 28 CD34
kat2504 TTC#1 cycle 1 (post mc) CD33
Tigger15 TTC#2 cycle 18 UCL24-9 CD31
pinkfondantfancy TTC#1, cycle 2, UCL 30 CD29
Wombat33 TTC#1 Cycle 1 (post MC) UCL 31 CD30
youremindmeofthebabe TTC#2, Cycle 2 UCL31-38 CD30
velvetcu TTC #1 Cycle 2 UCL 30, CD29
Appleblossoms TTC#2 cycle 3 UCL 34 CD 28
BrownB TTC#1 Cycle 15 (post MC#1) UCL 24-26 CD 28
MamaPower TTC#1, cycle 3 (post MC#2) UCL 25- 27 CD27
choccybick TTC#1 (post mc1) cycle 2 UCL 27 CD27
IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy TTC#3 cycle 2 UCL28-29 CD26
Loola2shu TTC#3 Cycle 2 (post nmc#1) ucl??? (PCOS) CD22
Jamface TTC#2 cycle 3 (post MC#2), UCL 27 - 40 CD18
Freezingmyarseoff TTC#2 cycle 3 UCL28 CD17
Nickstermum TTC#2 cycle 1 post MC UCL 30-40 CD16
LadyBee TTC#2, cycle 2 (round 3) UCL27 CD15
KnitterNotTwitter TTC#2, (round 3) cycle 2 UCL 30 CD12
PrettyVacant1 TTC#1 Cycle 5(round 7)UCL 28-30 CD10
sunchild77 TTC#3 cycle 4, UCL 24-28, CD11
DachshundsRule TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL28 CD10
getawiggleon TTC#2, MC#1, UCL28, CD8

WTTC

Sillyness TTC#1 post MC1 WTF cycle
Jollster TTC #2, MC3 conf 16th Aug
BackOnceAgain TTC#3, MC 17th Aug
Shitforbrains TTC#3, MC 1st Sep
Sarahmia TTC#2, MC2
MummyAbroad TTC #2,(MMC#1 31 Mar, ERPC 7 Jul)
Tunnocksteacake
Urbanlolly

MIA
pippaandpolly
Honeywitch TTC#1
Curlylox TTC#3
delilahbelle TTC#1

RECENT GRADUATES
BUnderthebonnet BFP 20 June
Muser BFP 22 June
northerngoldilocks - BFP 12 July
Magic8ballhastheanswers BFP 14 July
Hopefully BFP 22 July
IvySedai BFP 1 August
PenguinsMummy BFP 15th August
batteryhen BFP 18 August
VivClicquot BFP 25 August
Loopymumsy BFP 29 August
CaribouMoo BFP
hairytriangle BFP 21 Sep

velvet you have iron will power

Dont say that I might crumble! I'm telling myself that this is just a normal month, AF is coming so there is no point testing. It seems to be working atm.

Velvet, keep a track of how much money you are saving by not testing each time you get the urge and buy yourself something of equivalent value after BFP/AF

Unfortunately by these rules, I can only reward myself with a twix bar

Lol MA, what a wonderful idea :)

velvet you are amazing! Well done you - AF arriving (which hopefully she won't!) is way less disappointing than getting just one piss-poor line on the pee-stick. Have you got any symptoms??

MA hahaha good plan. Unfortunately at this rate I'll never be able to buy a present - two pee sticks down so far this month already.... I am going to try and hold out until Friday if AF hasn't arrived yet. MIL reckons I should wait until I'm 2 weeks late - erm!! That would require a willpower level way above what I reckon I could ever have......

Have any of you ever been for any blood tests? I was thinking about paying to get them done privately - I know the NHS won't test you until you've had 3 m/c but I really think if I just got the blood tests there's 2 outcomes 1) hopefully there's nothing wrong and it will give me much more confidence in the 'random bad luck' theory or 2) there'll be something which is hopefully fixable. Just feel like I would kick myself if I didn't, and it happened again, and I could have just paid for the tests and not had to go through it. Any thoughts?

Hi Pink,

I have had some tests done and am looking into doing more. However, not sure I can give you much useful info because its all different over here in Costa Rica.

The ladies on the Recurrent Buns thread are very knowledgable and friendly bunch, I am sure if you ask over there you will find someone who has done what you are thinking about.

xxx

Good evening ladies, my 2 wee fingers Soooooooo can't keep up with you all ( never learnt to type!!!)
in bed on phone

caribo good luck for scan was it Friday? Will have everything crossed xxx

mummya fx for you too.. Hope you get some GOOD answers.... & af arrives on time.

tunnocks 1st week truly sucks....(((((HUGS))))) it will get easier have fun with ds & inlaws...

wombat too early fx...... Good luck with further poas xx

kat pants your break is at wrong time in cycle...perhaps a nice relaxing break will do the trick... If nothings happened before then !!!

velvet good luck!!! Hope af is a bfnoshow xxx

nick hope the swi is going swimmingly..... Fx for BFP

izzy a&r like you guys cycle all over place haven't had 21 day break, just 8 free days, spotting last 3 but now it's starting to feel more like a reg af although I know it's not a proper one.... It's a start!!! Took epo and b6 today!!

Waves to all XXXXXXXX

wombat yeeeesss, the whole sex-after-baby is a different ball game to the sex-to-get-baby issue. And a great reminder from nickster regarding the importance of pelvic floor exercises. Or the advantages of an emergency c-section (see, it's not all bad news )

Anyway.....getting way in front of myself.

jamface, sneezing is definitely a sign...absolutely

AandR I've been attempting to keep DH in the dark too, but this morning he asked outright 'so when are you most eggy?'. I believe this is a symptom of his desperation though after a not-so-successful-but-not-a-disaster- attempt this morning. I reckon he was hoping to be told he could take a break. HONESTLY though, it's not like we're following Knitter's 3-a-day regime.

Big fat hairy arsecrackers. RTD arrived this morning in full force, so I'm back to cd1. Only now my cycle seems to be about 26 days with an 8-day lp at best. Am maintaining positive mental attitude, oh yes, but seriously, that is crap.

Wednesdays List

StarflowerGirl TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 28 CD55 BFP
Pinkie08 TTC#3 cycle 2 UCL 28 CD58
Lottiecrump UCL 27/28 CD52
cheepz TTC#2 cycle 2 (round 4) UCL28 CD49
Littlemiss72 TTC#1 cycle 1 (post MC#2) UCL 28 CD 48
digitalgirl TTC#2 Cycle 3 UCL41 CD38 BFP
barrenbrook TTC#1 cycle 4 (post MC#3) UCL 28 CD34 BFP
kat2504 TTC#1 cycle 1 (post mc) CD34
pinkfondantfancy TTC#1, cycle 2, UCL 30 CD30
Wombat33 TTC#1 Cycle 1 (post MC) UCL 31 CD31
youremindmeofthebabe TTC#2, Cycle 2 UCL31-38 CD31
velvetcu TTC #1 Cycle 2 UCL 30, CD30
Appleblossoms TTC#2 cycle 3 UCL 34 CD 29
BrownB TTC#1 Cycle 15 (post MC#1) UCL 24-26 CD 27
MamaPower TTC#1, cycle 3 (post MC#2) UCL 25- 27 CD28
choccybick TTC#1 (post mc1) cycle 2 UCL 27 CD28
Loola2shu TTC#3 Cycle 2 (post nmc#1) ucl??? (PCOS) CD23
Jamface TTC#2 cycle 3 (post MC#2), UCL 27 - 40 CD19
Freezingmyarseoff TTC#2 cycle 3 UCL28 CD18
Nickstermum TTC#2 cycle 1 post MC UCL 30-40 CD17
LadyBee TTC#2, cycle 2 (round 3) UCL27 CD16
KnitterNotTwitter TTC#2, (round 3) cycle 2 UCL 30 CD13
PrettyVacant1 TTC#1 Cycle 5(round 7)UCL 28-30 CD11
sunchild77 TTC#3 cycle 4, UCL 24-28, CD12
DachshundsRule TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL28 CD11
getawiggleon TTC#2, MC#1, UCL28, CD9
Tigger15 TTC#2 cycle 19 UCL24-9 CD3
IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy TTC#3 cycle 3 UCL26-28 CD1

WTTC

Sillyness TTC#1 post MC1 WTF cycle
Jollster TTC #2, MC3 conf 16th Aug
BackOnceAgain TTC#3, MC 17th Aug
Shitforbrains TTC#3, MC 1st Sep
Sarahmia TTC#2, MC2
MummyAbroad TTC #2,(MMC#1 31 Mar, ERPC 7 Jul)
Tunnocksteacake
Urbanlolly

MIA
pippaandpolly
Honeywitch TTC#1
Curlylox TTC#3
delilahbelle TTC#1

RECENT GRADUATES
BUnderthebonnet BFP 20 June
Muser BFP 22 June
northerngoldilocks - BFP 12 July
Magic8ballhastheanswers BFP 14 July
Hopefully BFP 22 July
IvySedai BFP 1 August
PenguinsMummy BFP 15th August
batteryhen BFP 18 August
VivClicquot BFP 25 August
Loopymumsy BFP 29 August
CaribouMoo BFP
hairytriangle BFP 21 Sep

If I can take this moment to let you know that it was at least 3 months after PFB was born before we had sex again! A nasty tear and the fact I'd pushed a large headed baby out , along with the overwhelming exhaustion was enough to remove my libido for some time..

CD 31.. Ho hum. I hope its not another month like last month. I have ordered Agnus Castus and everything, cos if I am ovulating when I think I am, then Ive got a 20+ day Luteal phase, which is A) unlikely or B) a sign of bad things. I shall now stick my head in the sand to avoid said information.

velvet I is very inordinately proud of your willpower. especially as i poas yesterday.

tunnocks it's awful isn't it? You have my utmost sympathy, I hated feeling so out of control.

ladybee and AandR I too have been trying to keep DP out of the loop. And doing quite a good job over it. I suspect he hasn't the faintest inkling over how a womans cycle works.

izzy I toy with the idea of the expensive blue thingy, but think I'll give it til after xmas. The last 2 times I have got PG it has been in February, so if I'm not PG by then I will be disappointed.

mummyA what else is on your list that you can't live without from the uk? Are the traditions of xmas very different over there?

Waves to all, hope you're well.

I have exams for uni next weds, and then I'm off til Feb! Wahoo! and my best friends are returning from travelling, and it's DS's bday and Christmas soon! (am i getting ahead of myself??) It is also my due date the day before DS's bday, but I am kind of optimistic. Although given recent events i'm not sure if I should be confident, but I think because I can mentally prepare for it, I may be ok..

God, that's rather mememe. I do apologise.

knitter 3 A DAY!!!!!!!! Pure respect ..... > Am supposed to be on a diet as can no longer blame being upduffed for the fat suit. Between trying not to weigh myself every 5 secs to see if weight has decided to abandon me of it's own accord and not to POAS ... Feel like I am constantly lecturing myself.
Velvet amazing self control!
mummyA thinking of you. The wait is almost over!
Waves to all
SFF ha! Only trying to convince DH of that ... More like SW deadly I. Trying to convince myself not trying this month > It is going well!

Morning all!! yrotb I'm sooo envious of time off until Feb!!! Anbd share your excitement about Christmas. It's October now - I think we're allowed :)

Velvet - amazing self control with the poas. I love mummya's suggestion of the present buying. On that basis, this afternoon I may treat myself to a starbucks and chocolate cake

The double justification for this is that AF arrived this morning :( Not unexpected as it's bang on time and my temps had been plummeting for the last few days. So, I've updated the list below, but given this is only my first AF after the MC (which incidentally was exactly one month ago today :( ) I've taken the liberty of claiming I'm still on cycle 1 (well, the other one wasn't a 'proper cycle' was it..?!)

Hello to everyone else!

PS - thanks for the tips on pelvic floor and SFF post-DC's! I'm now fully briefed. all I need is the baby!!

mummya how can you not like marmite?! yum yum yum...and all that extra folic acid is good for you! I craved it like crazy in first trimester with DS! What else is on your list?

izzy sorry OB got you :( I had my fx this was your month

ah yes AandR you missed knitter's thread on her three times a day dedication, she's a little legend round here!

wombat with regard to spb (sex post baby) I think I buck the trend, once we got over the initial shock of no sleep, sore bits etc. our sex life has become way better than before ds...almost back to university days! Think we realised what we'd been missing whilst i was heavily pregnant etc. and made amends

velvet brownb mamap any news? There should be quite a few bfp's over the coming days me thinks.

caribou and hairy how are you little upduffed ones getting on? starting to relax at all?

PFF I bought cheapy opk's this month, £5 for 30 from amazon, and I got a positive around the right time..it was almost positive at lunchtime so i did another early evening which was strongly positive, next day was negative again so worth testing twice a day if you suspect ov might be near.... the good thing about cheapies is you don't feel bad peeing on them all the time!

Which brings me nicely on to me... I'm determined not to poas early again as it is such a waste, so to control my urge i peed on a cheapy opk this morning instead (i know, stupid!) and it was positive.... and i feel really sickly today, keep feeling really faint if i stand up too quickly and boobs are getting quite sore.... someone slap me! I just can't bare to get another BFN so don't want to test till next week... help!

x-posted, sorry AF got you wombat - here's to next month...

wombat boo to af for getting you too!!!

appleblossoms I have to confess, I think I was secretly quite hopeful myself - have had implantation bleeding on all 3 other pgs so far so it seemed a good sign. 'tis a rollercoaster ride! Am liking your symptoms though -surely if both me and wombat are out, we are owed some bfps

as for me, I am a bit gutted this month but staying positive. Yes my luteal phase is crap, but at least we can sort that out. Have made appt at dr for Friday so am hoping I get someone sympathetic. mamapower - how did you get them to help you so quickly?

Have also found an acupuncturist in the area who specialises in fertility, so going to give her a call later. And at least I can have a nice large glass of wine later.

Think this may answer your question Apple (Planning on swi like you wouldn't believe this cycle though ):

Wednesdays List

StarflowerGirl TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 28 CD55 BFP
Pinkie08 TTC#3 cycle 2 UCL 28 CD58
Lottiecrump UCL 27/28 CD52
cheepz TTC#2 cycle 2 (round 4) UCL28 CD49
Littlemiss72 TTC#1 cycle 1 (post MC#2) UCL 28 CD 48
digitalgirl TTC#2 Cycle 3 UCL41 CD38 BFP
barrenbrook TTC#1 cycle 4 (post MC#3) UCL 28 CD34 BFP
kat2504 TTC#1 cycle 1 (post mc) CD34
pinkfondantfancy TTC#1, cycle 2, UCL 30 CD30
youremindmeofthebabe TTC#2, Cycle 2 UCL31-38 CD31
velvetcu TTC #1 Cycle 2 UCL 30, CD30
Appleblossoms TTC#2 cycle 3 UCL 34 CD 29
BrownB TTC#1 Cycle 15 (post MC#1) UCL 24-26 CD 27
choccybick TTC#1 (post mc1) cycle 2 UCL 27 CD28
Loola2shu TTC#3 Cycle 2 (post nmc#1) ucl??? (PCOS) CD23
Jamface TTC#2 cycle 3 (post MC#2), UCL 27 - 40 CD19
Freezingmyarseoff TTC#2 cycle 3 UCL28 CD18
Nickstermum TTC#2 cycle 1 post MC UCL 30-40 CD17
LadyBee TTC#2, cycle 2 (round 3) UCL27 CD16
KnitterNotTwitter TTC#2, (round 3) cycle 2 UCL 30 CD13
PrettyVacant1 TTC#1 Cycle 5(round 7)UCL 28-30 CD11
sunchild77 TTC#3 cycle 4, UCL 24-28, CD12
DachshundsRule TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL28 CD11
getawiggleon TTC#2, MC#1, UCL28, CD9
Tigger15 TTC#2 cycle 19 UCL24-9 CD3
MamaPower TTC#1, cycle 4 (post MC#2) UCL 25- 27 CD3
IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy TTC#3 cycle 3 UCL26-28 CD1
Wombat33 TTC#1 Cycle 1 (post MC) UCL 31 CD1

WTTC

Sillyness TTC#1 post MC1 WTF cycle
Jollster TTC #2, MC3 conf 16th Aug
BackOnceAgain TTC#3, MC 17th Aug
Shitforbrains TTC#3, MC 1st Sep
Sarahmia TTC#2, MC2
MummyAbroad TTC #2,(MMC#1 31 Mar, ERPC 7 Jul)
Tunnocksteacake
Urbanlolly

MIA
pippaandpolly
Honeywitch TTC#1
Curlylox TTC#3
delilahbelle TTC#1

RECENT GRADUATES
BUnderthebonnet BFP 20 June
Muser BFP 22 June
northerngoldilocks - BFP 12 July
Magic8ballhastheanswers BFP 14 July
Hopefully BFP 22 July
IvySedai BFP 1 August
PenguinsMummy BFP 15th August
batteryhen BFP 18 August
VivClicquot BFP 25 August
Loopymumsy BFP 29 August
CaribouMoo BFP
hairytriangle BFP 21 Sep

Good news - results from Bloods are in and progesterone levels are all good. Bad news - GP was total and utter biatch, told me to go away and keep trying for at least another year before I worried (she kindly pointed out this advice was regardless of how many more m/c's I had because this was not a fertility issue, hum, lucky me, so I can get them I just can't keep them, I must be more grateful)!! So she either has kids and has never had a problem and therefore can't empathise or she doesn't want them and can't empathise or she is just an ole biatch that can't empathise!!! Seriously she was so rude thinking of complaining!

Izzy I just generally annoyed them and then ended up being palmed off on a locum GP (not the old cow bag above), it turns out this was a stroke of luck because she took pitty and wrote out the path request there and then! This bit might also interest you; After all that she never addressed the issue of the LPD, simply said as long as progesterone levels were fine (mine were 39 and 30+ required to retain - apparently) it was irrelevant how many days the luteal phase was, I hope so but am speaking to GP friend for confirmation and will let you know.

Waves to all

mamapower hurrah for results but bollox to crappy rude GP. That is rubbish . GPs really ought to sit some kind of empathy test before being let loose on us. Have you ever tried the progesterone cream (serenity?) re luteal phase? I was thinking about it but I guess if your progesterone levels are ok you maybe don't need that. Hmmm. Will let you know what my dr says Friday, although from what you've said and given that we already have two DCs I'm not expecting much help.

Interesting comments re length of lp though, will be interested to hear what your friend says. I guess she could be right - I think I've said on here before DS was conceived 4 days before my last period (which arrived exactly as normal - it was when the second af was lighter than normal that I tested). I always put him down to being a bit of a miracle since clearly he shouldn't have been able to implant but maybe that goes with what your gp said.

Hi Everyone,
As you are TTC after a MC I thought this would be a good thread to ask you ladies some questions?

I miscarried on Friday at 9 weeks and I do not really understand why I have to wait for a complete menstrual cycle to TTC especially when I read how you are more fertile afterwards?

All the doc said was that your body is back to normal again. What is wrong with my body at the moment for it not to be normal?

I might be overeager, I am just so wanting to try again asap and I am trying to convince my self why I should wait.

I know a lot of it will be due to the shock of losing our LO, I just don't feel happy that it could take so long to try again. (Especially if it could just be down to them wanting to date a possible pregnancy, more accurately)

I had a scan on Monday which showed no retained products and I was back to normal really.

I hope you don't mind me barging in :)

Hi Purple Sorry you're here and you are not barging in at all .
Recent research suggests you don't wait, but rather you ttc when you are physically and emotionally ready! Most of us lot on here have suffered the WTF (What the F*) cycle and that just means that you don't know when you're ov or when af is due etc and that's perfectly normal for the cycle following mc but no reason not to try...if you feel ready, hope that helps, the others wil be along shortly with more advice I'm sure

Hi purplebuns if you miscarried naturally (i.e. no ERPC) then there isn't any medical reason for you to wait. You can start again as soon as you feel ready, you just need to wait until the bleeding stops and your cervix closes until you have sex again to prevent potential infection.

Emotionally, a lot of the ladies on here have found that waiting for a period to come before diving back in gives them time to grieve and move through emotionally to a point where they feel strong enough to go through the stress of ttc again, as well as coping with the results of that, whether it's a positive - the worry of pregnancy soon after a miscarriage - or a negative and the disappointment that comes with realising that it might not happen again immediately.

We all know the feeling of just wanting to pregnant again, though, and everyone makes their own decision...you're welcome to stick around if you want some company and support whichever way you go

Hi Purplebuns so sorry about your MC. I'm probably not the best persoon to advise you becauyse I felt ewxactly like you do and started TTC again immediately, but I'm sure someone more sensible will be along shortly! As I understand it there are reasons for and against trying again immidiately. For, you understand already because it's mostly down to wanting to get on with it and move forward, plus the suggestion there may be an increase in fertility (though I think the lastest study talked about this in terms of women who tried again within 6 months, rather than necessarily straight away before a period, so all is not lost on that front if you do decide to wait a few weeks). Against is largely down to making absolutely sure your MC is complete and that the next pregnancy is a stress-free as possible eg they can date the next pregancy and if you have any unexplained bleeding, they can be sure it is not due to the MC etc). It also gives you some time to emotionally deal with your loss and prepare yourself for the next pregnancy (which will almost certainly be extra-anxious for the first few weeks at least because of the MC).

As I said, I started trying again immediately aftter my MC (a month ago - I had had two clear scans and three negative pregnancy tests too confirm the MC was complete). As it turned out, AF arrived for me today so I wasn't sucessful straight away anyway. However, the midwife at the EPU did say to me that although she couldn't endorse anything other than the 'official line' of the local health authority, if I did want to ttc immediately she would suggest I used opks and took my BBT so that I had an idea of when I conceived if I did, I got plenty of rest and I took a pregnancy vitamin supplement including iron to help regenerate my body's nutrient stores.

I hope that helps you make your decision. Take care of yourself and go easy in the first few weeks in particular. We are here any time if you want to chat x