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Assisted Conception (and the bits in between) Volume 6

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rowingboat · 14/09/2010 11:00

Hi all,
I just went to post on the old thread and noticed it had been locked, so here is a new one!
Come on in!

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vallinnapod · 15/11/2010 19:45

LAW I've not had any time off as yet for my IVF but I am very lucky in that the clinic is 10 min walk from the office. Am planning to have EC day off and work from home the day after and the day of ET off. Any experts think I am being too optimistic Confused

LOL Rowing I hope to have tonnes/none too as no idea what they are looking for (none I think!!) just excited to be moving on to the next stage!

Uber positive vibes Dash

Lissy thanks for the idea of timing. I realise everyone is different!

Hugs Italian Smile

Horton · 15/11/2010 19:52

Thanks everyone.

And Dachsunds, two embies is two embies. I hope they turn into two babies!

rowingboat · 15/11/2010 22:30

Hi all,
just popping in before I get on my bike.

Lissy, sorry you have had a set-back emotionally. I'm going to have fun looking for hostels. I'll probably end up next to a tramp in a flop house, oh well, better get a money belt, nit comb etc...

Valinn yay for not much whatever it is!

Dachs lots of positive vibes to your two tiny little fellows.

Hi to everyone [waves from bike]

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vallinnapod · 16/11/2010 10:28

Self-centred but positive post from me after scan today. Very thin lining at scan today so I am armed with injections to start tonight. I now have blood tests Friday and Saturday, followed by bloods and scans Mon, Weds and Fri at least! So excited to be moving forward but sooooooo not looking forward to the first injection! I thought they were like epipens but you have to stick the needle in first before 'clicking' the top. ARGH!!

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vallinnapod · 16/11/2010 12:30

LOL BB - maybe nits are the new symptom?!

lateatwork · 16/11/2010 13:41

vallinnapod ouch. ouch. ouch.

bb nits- annoying but not the end of the world...

huge rant about to erupt...but i deleted it cause i even bored myself reading it.

lets just say that i am totally worried about whether to delay IVF and go natural for another couple of months in the vague hope of falling pregnant again OR just bite the bullet and go for it. any words of wisdom appreciated....

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vallinnapod · 16/11/2010 20:39

Just done my first injection! It really is a piddley amount (50 somethings...def not ml Grin) and a tiny needle. Thank the lord! I only procrastinated for about 5 minutes. It helps that I am by myself therefore had no one to get worked up with!

Although I eyed the Pregnyl needles in my kit which are twice the size - eek! Confused

rowingboat · 16/11/2010 21:49

Hi all,

Vallin, well done on the 'not much' scan and administering your own injection.
I thought it would be awful as well, but ended up stabbing away without a care in the world. There are some very good youtube videos about how best to do ivf injections, Lottie told me about them (thanks Lottie! Smile) and they did help with lots of top tips.
Some of them are sooo anal, wiping with a surgical wipe before and after - I was using an old cloth I use to clean the loo seat (not really).

BB sounds like exactly the approach to adopt during the 2WW.
How are you going to deal with the nits (dons balaclava helmet and scratches scalp vigorously)

LAW nice try! I'm not going to be blamed if you aren't pg in 2 months after advising you to TTC naturally! No, I don't think so! Grin
You don't have anything to lose by waiting though and a stack of money to save.
Are you on the forties TTC thread, if not get thee over there, they are a hoot!

My poor old DS is getting it in the neck from his 'best' mate at the moment and is just a little soul. I'm finding that large doses of oestrogen aren't conducive to calm, logical thinking. [crazed protective mother face]

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Italiangreyhound · 17/11/2010 02:14

Lateatwork how long have you been trying, why do you need IVF and how old are you?

It's totally your choice but if I were given the chance of IVF with my own eggs I'd bite your hand Envy - well not exactly that but you know what I mean! Wink If you feel fit and well I would certainly consider going for it, if it does not work you can keep trying naturally. But it is your call totally.

Rowing any news?

BB nits, ow poor you, Sad we have a plastic comb which is good. I have heard that conditioner and lots of combing works as well if not better than the official stuff.

Hugs and best wishes to all. Grin

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DachshundsRule · 17/11/2010 08:44

bb Agreed nits not a good start to the day. Hope the treatment has worked fully.

law Up to you, but I was really relieved when I finally got accepted for IVF - you try for 7 years and nothing, get pregnant once naturally and suddenly it's fine to go for IVF Good luck whatever yuo decide

vallinn Good luck with lining etc. Those injections are nasty - but you get used to it! (she says sporting large bruises from her injections...)

Hope all goes well for all of you. Anyone got any good ideas on how to kill time on the 2ww?

lateatwork · 17/11/2010 16:23

still no decision and oh has invited a friend over for tea... fat chance we will be doing any chatting about things...

thanks for the different perspectives. i suppose i am mainly worried that the delay will have an impact on the success of the IVF treatment as well as trying naturally- so a double whammy.

i am lucky that i dont have to wait as i am paying for treatment privately.

i mainly spend the 2ww checking out every conceivable website about pregnancy symptoms and also look at possible delivery dates and baby names.... Blush so i wouldnt take my advice...

rowingboat · 17/11/2010 18:38

Hi all,

Dachs so have you finished the Harry Potter books then? Smile
Not sure, do you have any projects you could get on with at home, things you have been putting off (probably because they are so boring) or crafts you enjoy. Hmm! Friends box set, read Ulysses (no!), read War and Peace.

LAW actually I think it might be worth a try - the IVF I mean. It might give you an opportunity to build up a reserve of embryos, so that if you go down that route later they will be 'younger' if you see what I mean.
Also there is that 'we had just decided to go for IVF when we found out we were having a baby' factor.
I'm not taking any advice off you! Grin

Italian not much news really. Looked at a hotel called 'The Grand' in Brno last night £120 for three nights. Apparently, it's near the clinic and the bus stops outside. Ho hum!
How's the walking?
Trying to do a cycle a night ATM to get into the best shape possible. Definitely more energy, better stop having cupasoups for dinner then!

Vallin how is the injecting going? Look here

BB oh well, better to have dead nits than live nits I suppose. Shock

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rowingboat · 17/11/2010 18:39

Dachs I have another suggestion, spend hours on Ebay trying to find the perfect, vintage trench coat [eyes on stalks emoticon]

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lateatwork · 18/11/2010 13:00

hi all... think we have finally come to some sort of a decision...

we will wait a month first..

i wasnt happy about this this morning... but have just got off the phone from argc and am a little perplexed to say the least. have been very happy up til now with them..but they are now saying i have to have some hysteroscopy thingy and some chromosone testing thingy which i was told in my first meeting i didnt have to... i have big big trust issues with drs in general and now dont feel comfortable at all as nothing at all has changed with me, but now they want to do something different and it isnt related to the results of immunes or bloods... hmmm... it just sounds like they want to make more money out of us or havent read my notes. one of the tests partic doesnt make sense as we already have one child together and the nurse on the phone kinda agreed and doesnt know why it was recommended either. so not confident now.

crawls off into a hole of despair and self pity

rowingboat · 18/11/2010 13:05

LAW the hysteroscopy is pretty standard infertility testing. I had one as part of my initial assessment and found I had a blocked tube and a damaged tube, so it was worth it for us.
I can understand why any assisted conception would be a problem if you don't feel comfortable with the medical profession.
Waiting a month sounds like a good idea if you are feeling so uneasy.
Huge hug.

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lateatwork · 18/11/2010 13:27

thanks rowing... i felt ok with argc as didnt feel that they were 'hiding' anything.. but now... argh.. i think i just need to go with the flow and not question everything (which is my normal way) and get ready to start at the end of december. if they want a test i think i will have to blindly agree and not second guess them at every turn..

but... surely my tubes must be working ok right cause i have been pregnant twice in the last 15 months... just cant keep hold of them... where is that superglue??

BagofHolly · 18/11/2010 19:05

LAW, just jumping in to stick in my two pennorth about hysteroscopy. I never had one, and I wasn't asked to. However, my embryo transfer was AWFUL as it turned out I have a retroverted uterus, so the catheter with the embs in it had to go in, up and then turn a corner! It really hurt and took bloody ages too. For my second cycle it took over half an hour and the doc wrote on my notes that I should have been sedated. She said if I'd had a hysteroscopy she would have performed it differently and would have known exactly where to site the embs as part of the procedure is measuring the womb very accurately. She said there was also reason to think that irritation of the womb lining helped the implantation process too. I was always going to have icsi so it's not just about clearing out tubes etc, it's also so they can get to know your womb! Hope that helps a bit! What was the test they want you to have? BTW secondary infertility has a big immune genetic component, almost as thought the first pregnancy immunises you against carrying a second. Hope you're ok, very best of luck x x

vallinnapod · 18/11/2010 19:56

Hi all - drugs question..anyone else here done puregon and buserelin? I have two unexpected side effects. Uber dry skin (although that could be the weather!) and Blush constipation! Blocked up like a good un.....

LissySilver · 18/11/2010 20:45

Late--I was told that I would need to have a hysteroscopy prior to any embryo transfer, but I also had a cone biopsy. This apparently severely distorted my cervix, which is why my second ET was very fiddly, and it also took ages!

Val--Didn't take either of those, but I was definitely stuffed up from something. Maybe the folic acid supplements?

Rowing--The Grand sounds lovely. Think of it this way, you won't have to be moaning about nits, like poor Dachshund!

Dachshund--Are they gone yet? How are you doing? I don't know about nits, as I've never had, but I've just recently gotten over some extremely itchy skin rashes. Horribly uncomfortable!

Late--I think it's really easy to second guess treatments when you're going privately, because everything adds up. For me, I think I would want anything and everything done to me as long as it gets me pregnant. Plus, I don't think one more month TTC naturally is going to hurt you, IMHO. Go with your gut!

Italian--What's new?

As for me, starting to lift out of my funk a bit. I realized that I was starting to sound and feel like an ex-friend, who has cut herself off from anyone who has kids or who can still get pregnant. One of my close friends, who I was ranting to the other day, told me she's pregnant with her second, but she was hesitant to tell me. I told her that I never want to be the kind of person who doesn't feel joy and happiness for a friend. I can be jealous, sure, and I can feel frustrated, but I never want to cut myself off from someone because of that.

Amazing boss has connected me with her obstetrician, he also runs a fertility clinic. Appointment next Thursday. Although not pro bono, I think he's going to give us a greatly reduced fixed price for a cycle, but won't know until he sees us.

Sending love, hugs, and chocolate biscuits to all...

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LissySilver · 19/11/2010 11:05

BB--Sorry, hope your nits are gone! Chin up sweetie, you don't know until you know...

lateatwork · 19/11/2010 11:19

BOH thanks! they specifically said that i wouldnt need a hysteroscopy on my first appointment... but now they want me to have one. I suppose i dont understand what has changed since my first appointment and now.. and i dont understand why they cant tell the shape of everything from scans... but my OH and i have agreed that we will go with absolutely everything they suggest and not try and second guess them. (at least for the first round...Wink) oh and they recommending chromosone karyotyping... which i find weird cause OH and I have already had a baby together so our DNA must be ok to be mixed...(which I think is what this test measures...) but as much as it irks me, i will do it. as you can see, i dont take direction well....Blush

lissy good news about the new consultant. but better news that the fog is lifting.... its no fun having that lurking about.

bb nit free yet? i so have everything crossed for you. i hope hope hope that you get a bfp..

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