More ongoing and continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

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I've started a new thread!

Glad it's not just my dh then I'll remind him of his reluctance during the 2ww when all I want to do it slanket-it out in front of the tv..
Sassy holiday in France sounds great- give a wave to my childminder who is also going there for 2 weeks when you will be there...not so popular that one!
muchlove Mmmm may have a cloer look at the FF VIP scheme...not sure the chat rooms would be my thing,though do like some of the VIP features.5 days before they cut me off! Just hoping I can get ov charted before then.
Beattie work trip sounds good, though know what you mean about playing a role.I sneaked off at a conference last week to read my Penny Vicenzi on the toilet steps .Can I be nosey and ask what your job is?
Well I'm feeling pretty rotten now,no doubt there was something in the old man flu.Not that I will stop me SWI - we women are made of stronger stuff!
Off to pee on another of my dwindling supplies of opks...

Opk still positive thank god,so a chance for dh to redeem himself! I sort of said the chance was gone,to avoid performance anxiety,so fingers crossed!

Fireflies - glad you found us here, as you might have gathered if you trawled through the previous pages, we are a crazy lot with our own virtual room - the snug. I am here although with 3 children already, my dh and I had always hoped for 4. We wanted two close in age, then a brief gap and another two close together. 15 month gap between my first two, then a 3 year gap and now......, well my youngest is 2.5 and I have had 9 miscarriages since he was born. So I am the memeber of the group that keeps getting pregnant then coming back a few weeks later saying it is all over. But I live in hope that maybe there might be one more good egg left in my aged body .

Diege - hope that dh of yours gets the strenght for his necessary duty!

gum, muchlove and beattie - are you trying to become cycle buddies? Hope at least one if not all of you are wrong and that you are up the duff instead!

I am 4dpo and will wait until midweek before caving and starting to test.

hi
just popping in... feeling a bit better, though not back to full fitness shall we say quite yet... just to reassure BB that I won't be stalking you at E's tomorrow! You can stick your tongue out in peace...

Will catch up and pop back in a few days. Big Simon Cowell love to all xx

Awww! Thanks for the welcome! Glad you had room on the sofa for me and my glass of nicely chilled Prosecco!! I'm 41, been married a long time... (nearly a decade). DH finally decided at the start of the year that we really should give it a go. Kind of that it's taken so long, but that constant nagging anguish hanging over me has gone for the time being. Docs say I am still in with a chance, despite having one blocked tube, so,fingers crossed. Look forward to sharing the journey with you all and here's to it being a short stay!!

I'm a lawyer Diege - work for a charity, and we're going away on a management/planning workshop thingie. While it's nice to get a lie in and a nice shower etc in the morning, I do find that I am on duty continuously for most of the time and it's exhausting.

At least I'm not missing ov time though! (during the last one I was in the midst of never ending post-mc bleeding - it was hell).

Good luck to everyone else - I'm still cramping/spotting and waiting for RTD to start, progesterone is just delaying the inevitable I think.

Hi all

Love the idea of wearing white trousers!!

No news but should get some answers today even if they're non answers if you see what I mean. My GP will be asked to phone me back at end of surgery this morning.

I'm fairly confident I'm not pregnant. Couldn't feel less so!!

Anyway, hope things are good for you guys! xxxx

I'll post back later.

Hey ladies.

Definitly not pregnant so that was a load of excitement and hope about nothing. Also not in the menopause phase.

Next step is a scan which I guess will happen in a few weeks.

Anyway, quite sad but not unexpected.

I think my ttc journey ends here.

I probably won't be back but just want to wish you all shedloads of luck!

Best wishes

xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Djinnie sorry to hear you're not pg - I know you thought you wouldn't be - but while there is an ounze of hope.... well y'know what I mean...

Are you sure this hasn't whetted your apetitite for ttc again - I recall your DH had had a vacestomy reversal - what about thinking about an assisted route?

fireflies Well it took your DH long enuf to make up his mind Welcome - make yerself cosy...

Hello! Agree Djinnie that the news must be disappointing,however much you'know' you're not pregnant. Hope you're ok and please pop in to let us know how you're doing if you decide ttcing is not for you x

Beattie your jobs sounds very high
powered! Will be nice to unwind a little and get some good sleeps in though

Jollster hello,and sending Simon Cowell snarls and kisses back

Firefly yes, does sound like your dh likes taking his time over decisions . Wishing you the best of luck x

Well dh did finally summon up the energy last night,and just in time too as had a temp rise this morning,though opk still positive this afternoon .Not holding out much hope though as no EWM (is it crucial??).Oddly I have lots today...May leave SWI tonight and fit one last one in tomorrow,though think I'm done(in) for this month. The lure of the slanket and double corrie is just too much
Hope everyone's ok x

Hi All

Just been reading through several posts on Fertility Friend site and in the Pregnancy in your 40's there are bloody loads of women 43 and over preggo !!!! And not just early days - these are 13wk + pregnancies !! Gives me some hope I guess.... I just read one who is 46 n half and just found out she preggo (naturally)!!! I guess you just gotta have patience in finding that 'Golden Egg'....
must learn to find that patience somehow[sceptical]... Muchlove wanders off scratching head in Pre-AF despair xx

Good to hear from you JOLLY x

Diege - E (the acupuncturist) thinks that EWCM is the most important of the fertility signs - she is teaching me a method of monitoring fertility just based on this. So perhaps you need to dtd tonigt too???

(I know Saint Toni sets more store by temperature though, but can't harm to do it both nights...)

The more I sit here, the more confused I get. Does anyone remember shagging for fun?

It sort of reminds of life before bus trackers - you used to arrive at the stop, and examine the timetable. It usually bore no relation to when the bus would actually come, but at least it was something to do while you were waiting

So what's the verdict on stress then - does stress stop you getting pg or not? Dr T says no - any advances on that?

Diege your job sounds pretty high powered too... this is very high powered room y'know...

(turns on the lava lamp and looks for her slanket)...

Sassy - Dr T? I do hope Dr T is correct as i have a fair deal of stress in my life at the moment and I have been thinking it's having a hugely negative affect on my ability to get pregnant. All this seems to do in effect is make me MORE stressed.... so I am thinking I will belive dr t from now on!

Galway girl - poor you - how draining all that hope then despair

muchlove - i like to hear that about fertility friend

mrs lucy good news so pleased for you

I am looking older by the minute - and not feeling too chipry.

Anyone else had an AMH test? I saw a consultant ( mostly for advice) who recommended it - the result came back relatively optimistic but the letter that accompanied it kindly dampened any optimism we may have had

Stess - well the time I was most stressed in my life was when I concieved my first dc. Was seeing lawyers and all sorts in a very stressful job-related situation. I did decide to just get away and forget it all incase it had an effect on the baby, but it definitely did not seem to have an effect on concieving.

40some - I have finally got to go for an AMH test, if I don't the new doc won't see me. However the doc I saw at the Lesley Regan clinic, said it is not worth anything, it is just a number and does not mean someone can't get pregnant, it just means that they might find it more difficult, but that might not be always the case. So told me not to get the test to avoid the dreaded stress!!!!!

muchlove - that website page of 40+ers with good pregnancies, sounds like I need to go visit it for encouragement.

I have to go get blood tests done tomorrow, stupid waste of time in my books, but I will still do it. Complained to doc at the hospital that I was not being helped in any way, so, he as referred me to a collegue more specialised in recurrent m/c's and the new consultant has told me to get a day 21 progesterone test and an AMH test tomorrow.... I don't want to get bad news from the AMH test, and I am on progesterone suppliments, so the progesterone test is a waste of time too!!!! . Still at least the poor darlings (consultants) are trying to do something.

gg I had the progesterone test a couple of weeks ago - I don't think I had even ov'ed at the time! So pretty meaningless too. I have to get the day 2 test soon, but af is not making a quick appearance, and I won't be able to get an appointment at short notice anyway.

What is an AMH test?

iirc Dr T (Dr Toni presumably sassy?) thinks that stress won't stop you getting/staying pg, but it will delay ovulation.

E has told me to start on agnus castus next month. So I will.

(Diege I''m not very high flying! am busy worrying about what I should be wearing to my "smart casual" awayday thingie).

I'm getting my Dr.Thong and my 'Dr' Toni confused .I'm thinking it's the thong-man who said stress doesn't matter? (I think I'd agree with that based on experience; again my dds were conceived in stressful times etc).
Beattie ah yes the what to wear dilemma..have just had the same myself, as have to impress boss again tomorrow. Think he's going to go with my staffing plans,mainly due to no alternative as opposed to my powers of persuasion (or indeed dress sense),which will massively de-stress my life!
Galwaygirl I suppose at least you're in the system now re: bloods,and will no doubt impress them with your knowledge about all things bloods. Do you get your results on the day?
40some can I be nosey and ask why the letter was bad news if test results were ok?
muchloveI must have a read of those ff pages,esp as I have just 4 days left of access!Think I might see how the temping goes using the basic package
SassyI have vague distant memories of shagging for fun; I even remember phoning in ill to work once so I could do it all day It blurs with memories of southern comfort and lemonade, cocktails, and long hot summers...
Well I took your advice and dtd again Please may I have permission to slanket-up now??? Pleeeese?????

of course you can Diege! The doctor had told me he anticipated my result would be around 5 ish as i do manage to get pg but keep losing them... when the result came it was above 5 by a reasonable amount but he just put that it was 'satisfactory' and then complimented this by saying AMH ( anti mullerian hormone) was only an indicator pf follicular reserve not egg quality - which i knew but thanks for cheering me up

i went private for the appointment and he basically said we could have whatever treatment we wanted but he had nothing to recommend ....

Diege being the academic with the attention for detail is of course correct. Dr T is Dr Thong - Yes that really is his name 40somemum

Is the AMH test what I had? A scan of your ovaries and a blood test? I know what you mean - first they tell you it's all very possitve and you're better than the average woman of your age... then they tell you that the average woman of your age has a crap chance of getting pg.... It reminds me of that Mel Smith and Griffith(?) Jones sketch from our youth... good new, bad news... I'm too senile to remember it exactly....

And Diege NO absolutley not - one more time with feeling tomorrow.. and then you can join us in the snug... but don't forget to SWITI

oh dear xposts... difference of opinion... hmm... I'm reconsidering.... No, I think yu defintely have to SWI one more time

sounds very similar susan ( this was just a blood test) but the message was the very same!

oops sorry Sassy I forgot about Dr Thong (how could I?!) anyway, sounds as though he and Toni agree.

Quick lock the doors, Diege is trying to come into the snug with her slanket without finishing her SWI-time..... !!!!

Diege - the blood tests are really a waste of time, I have already "been through the system" but because I put in a complaint about the treatment given by a junior doctor I got hauled in again, but am being switched from one consultant to another one. I have also gone privately to two different clinics (one based on natural fertility with the definite opinion that cm is the only way to monitor when to have swi, and the other clinic being prof lesley regans clinic.) I have had most of the tests available,, in fact I think other that the AMH one that I have actively avoided, the only blood test I haven't had is the vitamin B12 levesl. I am not going to even raise a iota of hope that this new consultant will say anything new to me. But I will go anyway

I have weird cramping going on today, feeling nauseous from the progesterone and generally wondering how much longer I will wait to test (well hippy is not here to tell me off for testing early )

Can someone put another log on the fire, I am feeling chilling this morning...

GG how many days post O are you?

RTD is here. Fully expected it, but had to console myself with some internet shopping. I bought a troll bracelet with a few special beads - rose quartz and other symbols for creativity and fertility. I live in hope!

No testing for me. I just don't want to go there - afraid they may say negative things and I just want to try and do everything naturally.

As for the cervical mucus thing - I don't have nearly as much as when I was younger, but can still tell when I'm fertile. I suppose I should probably "supplement" my scant mucus with some preseed, but I can never be bothered! I must admit I did use it when we conceived our last bub.Maybe I should just try it again?

I had a very pleasant morning at the beach with my LO and a friend and her LO.It was so sunny and warm, so at least my first day of RTD wasn't so bad.

I have run - washing to hang out before the sun goes away.

Let us know if you test GG!